Republicans are now saying, "Did you really expect the line to go up forever."
YES, YES I FUCKING DID YOU DUMB BITCH. IT WAS WORKING FOR THE PAST THREE DECADES UNTIL YOUR ORANGE CHIMP DECIDED TO DIRECTLY INTERVENE.
it needs to dump 10% on monday
we can't let slurpers win
Please remove the suicide hotline.
We need full capitulation on the next one.
Will we at least get concentratoin camps for Magas when this is over ?
hilarious how none of these niggers know who actually is owed most of the debt
it drives me nuts when people write like how trump speaks
(asked this in another thread, too)
Is there a website to track all the tariff stuff?
Like, a comprehensive list of which country is getting which number?
And like a changelog of Blompfs flip-flopping?
Just default lmao
Imagine boomers seeing their retirements disappear overnight
#
I believe we usually would be overdue for a short relief period starting Monday or Tuesday, from previous patterns I've noticed. These small relief periods usually last between 1 to 2 weeks of mostly upward movement.
But there's no telling if after the crash this pattern will hold or not. Personally, I'll bet on this pattern holding up in some way (maybe crabbing instead of upward movement, maybe starting Thursday after all the inflation reports are out instead of Tuesday) but be very careful about it.
As for Monday, my best bet for now is a bounce during pre market and then another smackdown after open, maybe hopefully not as severe as the last 2, depending on what news we have coming over the weekend
But I'm still waiting to slurp
stop being evil
only slurp once it's reached 450
sp500 needs to dump to 4000. this is when I get back in and make a lot of money over the next 10-15 years.
You see, in February, I turned it all into cash. Yes, I saw this coming.
Now I will use half of my 120k, to buy the dip. I'll be buying in two months time, the bottom, and then I'll sell when it goes uo. Lads that's the trick, you buy low and sell when it's a lot higher
That's vaguely my plan, I don't have a fixed number in mind but I don't believe the bleed is over yet. Should have sold my VOO on Wednesday like my gut said instead of waiting until yesterday.
I'm not selling my shares of VT because I'm a retard, I'll just let them bleed down and up once they recover
What, you don't like random capitalization, dramatic pauses, exclamation points, and a hodgepodge of random run-on sentences mixed in with short, curt sentences?
Bro thinks we are arent going full Turkey
I'm literally shaking.
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only slurp once it's reached 450
Nobody knows how all this will play out and anyone calling the bottom is talking out of their ass.
What should I put a call on for the bounce back and by how much and until when?
It will play out by the line going down and a 30% drop from the peak 600 would be around 420
pretending the market is unpredictable is talking out of your ass, go buy calls then since you can't predict an obvious bear
I REALLY hope that Europe is as cucked as people here say, and either just roll over like good little boys or that hungery or someone else will block or at the very least soften any response against the US tariffs
If the european response is anything like the chinese one, then we are actually fucked.
people aren't even comparing trumpcession to 2008 or 2020 now
half of Anon Babble is anticipating the new great depression, the great leap forward or collapse of the soviet onion
30% drop from the peak
Another asspull number. Retard, these tariffs could cause an economic avalanche where SPY crashes 80% or turn out to be a nothingburger if blumpf backs down soon. People are so used to baseline competent government that they don't realize line how quickly shit can go south if you put an orangutan in charge.
on one hand social media small caps (looking at you PINS, SNAP, MTCH, BMBL) are remarkably inexpensive and trading at 10 P/E
on the other hand every other SP500 boomer zombie company is valued at 30 P/E
plus they keep pretending that machine learning is gonna magically become a god or something
strange times, it's like the speculation game from 2021 has reversed
You will apologize to her.
Now.
I said that a 30% drop is expected and safe to account for
He isn't backing down after he had a whole liberation holiday for this shit and has a massive tariff boner
Even if he does the market won't recover because he's still in charge and could un-back down next day
The line is going down at least until midterms and that's unquestionable
We have bottomed.
TO THE MOON!
democrats are the ones who elected orangeutan for president
please maam, i am sorry, i want to suck your clit maam
Just look at how they're handling the ukraine war.
The EU is a hydra with 27 heads they're not going to agree to anything other than wait for midterms.
30% drop is expected and safe to account for
and what I'm saying is that this shit is too complex for anyone to even begin to assess fair value. What if the FED unexpectedly steps in like during Covid? Or what if Europe grows a pair for once and actually bites back?
I hope Elon nigger Musk gets margin called into.poverty, fuck that POS
Europe will impose tariffs and the federal reserve will step in next week or the week after to create a bullrun.
I'm saying a minimum 30% and this nigger is talking about Europe tariffing back
If Europe counter-tariffs like China then it will drop more
If a recession is triggered then the fed will have to make a choice, but even with cutting rates it won't recover anything
Orange retard is destroying the global trade, there is nothing to compare it with
a minimum 30%
My point is that you cannot predict shit, and the sooner you understand this the better off you'll be. There are hoards of rabid dip buyers all over the world who have an almost religious belief in the S&P 500 who'll probably fuck with your minimum 30% at some point. These people do not understand risk or elevated PE ratios, hell most of them don't even know what a PE ratio is, all they know is that if they buy and hold VOO for 30 years they'll be rich.
retail will get raped and start panic selling long before they're able to start countering the downturn
very very very few people can actually buy the dip, it's very easy to say DCA when the market has been going up for the past decade but the moment it started to shake last august people pissed their pants and talked about selling everything instantly
retail has paper hands outside of the very few that will actually make it
you say this every dip
trump's donors won't allow the SP500 crashing below 4500
the purpose of this stunt has been achieved, thirdies and europoors are cucking
next week we'll see all sorts of "deals" and the tariffs will be mostly lifted
slurp every dipperino from now on
COVID
This, people here were convinced that that was going to be a complete and utter collapse because the world had basically shut down, and it was unprecedented. I agreed at the time but someone did happen even if it was brrrrr so I don't understand how people don't think someone mad could happen again, probably won't but it could.
Why don't other countries trade with each other the way they want?
yea, just like the tariffs were going to be for only some countries, were going to be a flat 10% for all countries, were going to be flat 10 with reciprocal for the big 15, then it was going to be reciprocal for everything, then it's actually just a 18D chess move and the tariffs aren't real at all
COVID was literally the economy shutting down because some countries locked people inside
This is the US willingly pissing off the entire rest of the world as trading partners
You are going to absolutely hate the next four years then
The point is that around 80 percent of people here were absolutely convinced the economy could collapse. It didn't. Even two years ago people here were calling it the end because of inflation. And don't say they did, I absolutely remember both times people losing their shit.
won't allow
What makes you think they have a choice?
people here
don't listen to smg, the average tard here doesn't even have 2k invested and thinks losing 100$ will bankrupt them
market starts shitting bed from 2021 through end of 2023
charlie munger dies
market goes on run until trump comes back
market shits bed in 2025
warren buffett ______
There is your bottom signal just don't call me a witch doctor or something the void is the market maker
Hungary
Hungary is China's bitch, anon, and is widely known to be how China maintains a political presence in the EU.They will do what Beijing does.
you all forgot about me but i didnt forget about (you)
i told you it was coming
actually VT puts are much cheaper than SPY puts
is there a reason for this?
Because you can't remove the richest country from the equation and still get the same result
Markets will be blood red on Monday.
European here. Theoretically, and I mean theoretically, the Trump tariffs don't impact me on goods that aren't from the US-EU trade. Meaning, as of now, I can still preorder my Switch 2 for 439€.
But could those tariffs completely fuck up the supply chain of the "world"? Like the covid did. ie, should I upgrade my PC right fucking now if I don't want a repeat of the complete clown show of 2021 where you could only get graphics cards at 3x their MSRP.
The US doesn't really produce much of value, so no.
market losses are investments
HOLY BASED PUTGOD
do not panic buy anything, this is what they want
If you're a consumer outside of US, this is good for you.
If you break it down. NVDA relies on TSMC based in Taiwan to manufacturer their GPUs. Taiwan will face a 64% tariffs from all imports relating to rising GPU costs and thus these tariffs being inflationary. This won't be solely in the US but affect prices on a global scale, as a company you want to maximise profits and you can now blame price hikes on tariffs.
i love how people are so ingrained with the idea to buy things that they are saying to panic buy cheap little things to beat the tariffs lol
What I want to know it, how long will the likes of musk, Zuckerberg etc allow this? They gave him millions and now he's tanking thier share price
tariffs are there to force factories to return to US soil
Trump imposed tariffs on main factory equipment manufacturers, Germany and China
it now costs more to setup a domestic production of ANYTHING
this is somehow a win
MAGAtards, explain this.
No.
You should apologize to her.
It's technically also more expensive to buy foreign goods in general, so it might be cheaper to buy american goods than the Chinese equivalent. But realistically its mostly just forcing inflation up with little effect on manufacturing.
It's fucking hilarious. And good luck setting up heavy industries without Europe, this is its bread and butter and even China, despite desperately trying, can't do without Europe on that front.
Do people unironically kill themselves over the market dips?
they ignored the maximum loss part of the UI
Pls I'm really stupid
I hope so
Is this what natural selection looks like in stock market?
What the hell
Some people do stupid shit like invest money they need for rent or family savings or whatever that they need in the short/medium term, so end up doing so.
Were you not alive in 2008?
The EU already promised retaliatory tariffs before this was announced. The only delay is that they are having to expand them do to Trump's retardation being above and beyond when anyone could have guessed.
I'm all in on cash and shorts, and you should be too.
What the fuck lmao
Another one
retail has paper hands outside of the very few that will actually make it
Wrong, retail loses money because they refuse to sell when they should, and insist on buying every dip as the market continues to spiral.
At some point retails became convinced it was impossible to time the market and just hoard stocks. I swear this has to be a institutional psyop so they can easily offload bags when needed.
Is Robinhood the best place if I want to build a stock folio?
I'm new and retarded
And another one
LMAO even Gary is kvetching about "emergency rate cuts over the weekend."
Goes to show that NOBODY has a plan if number doesn't go up in perpetuity.
It's a matter of honour anon.
Well at least he still has $4M.
What is this retarded ass propaganda? Deepseek caused the crash? These guys are actually just freestyling and the media is taking them 100% seriously for some reason. American journalism is just a bunch of lobotomized lemmings.
I read, before China did its retaliation yesterday, that EU was supposed to announce its own retaliation mid-April, but who knows if China sped things up. Still, it's harder to do something at 27, especially when you have suckers like Hungary, than when Xi can decide on his own. I don't expect much from the EU, but they could (and definitely SHOULD) retaliate on the freeloading Mag7 that pay zero fucking taxes while hiding behind seven tax haven proxies.
And filters out and ISP level Google Adsense and the kikebook and X equivalent while they're at it, for shit and giggles.
I swear this has to be a institutional psyop so they can easily offload bags when needed.
I mean quick reminder that we saw fucking government members telling retail to buy TSLA share on prime live TV just two weeks ago.
Fun fact: go check Fox news' webpage. Zero mention on what's happening in the stocks market. Zero.
I have no idea about risk management and I bet 120k on red what do I do strangers on the internet?
no, if retail DCAs and holds for 20 years they'll be in profit
if retail sells as soon as they see -10% they'll buy once the pump to +20% has already passed
Surely, they invested money they can afford to lose. Right?
It's a good cover if you were going to kys for other reasons you don't want other people to know about
Just sell near the start of the fall, and buy near the start of the bump. You will still be better off then just hoarding.
just buy low sell high
FOMO normalnigs can't do this reliably
so elon used the trump admin to try to save tesla and failed miserably?
Yeah and I guess this whole experience has taught me that the majority of retail traders are straight up retarded. The crash was very very obvious to anyone not deliberately ignoring the writing on the wall.
DCA just seems like an insider con to make money off retail.
Where is Elon?
Seeing some people saying that customs is already charging them for bicycles ordered from Europe.
Laying low
disingenuous grifting fucking piece of shit garbage human being
I ordered some used trance CDs from Europe. They should be en-route now. The USPS is delivering them. The order total was like $30, so it would have been under the de minimis limit before. I'll let you know if I get charged a duty and fee...
New PoE2 league started yesterday.
Why did you? It has gone down multiple times already. Did you even look at the chart before today?
Trump kicked him in the teeth after he got btfo in Wisconsin.
"Trance" died in the late 90s with only a few tracks here and there capturing it's essence from when it started in the early 90s coming out in the 2000s.
I unironically consider "Indigo" by Ferry Corsten the last "true" Trance tune.
Mind you, I also consider Ferry Corsten to be a "electro dance" artist.
some people
it's literally on the news tardmuncher
Can't have losers hanging around in the Blompf administration. MIGA
so what do we do with our money for the next 1-2 years. everything is going down
That image is basically what people on Anon Babble have been saying for years, that we never really recovered from 2008 and have been living a lie for 17 years. If it were not the tariffs, then something else would have popped the bubble. This was inevitable.
I don't trust that, I get all my information at the local watering hole.
Trance was good into the early 2010s, then it got shit for a while, and it's getting good again. It does sound different than trance in the 90s, but it's still the same formula and I still like it.
My trance CDs might be the best investment I make.
doomers predicted 127 of the past 3 crashes
Why, I wouldn't have been able to afford a god damn thing by the end of her term the way her buck broke biden raised the prices on everything
According to a preliminary plan obtained by DealBook, in response to tariffs, the EU officials have brought up the possibility of implementing ACI to limit American banks’ ability to access the bloc’s public procurements market, essentially barring banks from projects worth $2.18 trillion each year. Additionally, the plan suggested targeting the roughly $327.02 billion annual flow of European investment into American companies.
Are they suggesting here that Euros will be forced to sell US shares? Or at least given extremely unfavorable taxes. How much further could this push down the market?
lol, but the writing was on the wall, the economy has not been healthy for a long time.
I disagree, but that's fine. Tastes vary.
Most importantly is that one enjoys the music he listens to.
Have fun with your CDs, hope they arrive in good condition.
Since spring and then summer are arriving may I post my favorite "bubblegum" Trance tune which is full of warmth and sunshine youtu.be/Din8iZqcBp4?si=_uxLge0tUmycNtyA
Are they suggesting here that Euros will be forced to sell US shares?
no? investment in these cases is almost always company investment and capital flows
If it were not the tariffs, then something else would have popped the bubble. This was inevitable.
What the fuck are you talking about, who are you people?
The US economy was booming like never before, capex was absolutely exploding, inflation was going down, unemployment was at historical lows, rate cuts were going to happen
Earning reports were incredible, Meta, a 1 trillion $ company grew its revenues 20% YOY, Nvidia beat expectations, market hit ATH, everything looked fucking amazing.
Don't fucking gaslight me about how it was all doom and gloom, it was great until Trump pulled the plug for absolutely no reason at all.
Imagine retiring
retire early, retire often
It seems the EU is looking at ways to reduce $327 billion in investments on american companies annually
But who did it look amazing to? That's the problem, because while the top 10% were enjoying that boom, the bottom 90% were not. The vast majority do not own stocks, while the top 10% were getting that 20% YoY, the bottom 90% were only seeing 4% increase on their wages that were not keeping up with costs of living.
The vast majority do not own stocks,
What are you, a fool? 58-62% of Americans own stocks, inderectly or directly. The rest are addicts and/or homeless or work 3 jobs.
crashes your economy
I only own stocks indirectly. I want to own them directly too
Where do I start? Full port VOO?
I will not be satisfied until we breach 2000
You people live in an alternate reality.
Stock ownership by the public is at its all time high, everybody owns stock, everybody'd retirement plan has stocks in it.
When META grows, the entire American populace profits in its growth.
Obviously the top 10% own more stocks than the bottom 90% but that's capitalism and it's why the average American burger flipper has a higher salary than an Italian doctor.
When META grows, the entire American populace profits in its growth.
*ahem*
FACT CHECK:
Partly false.
Only those who cash out their gains ;^)
This is exactly what I voted for and I want more of it to happen. Fuck you.
communist doctrine
SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION
communist doctrine also
NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT YOU MUSTN'T BUY SHARES IN COMPANIES NOOO
I'm listening to a podcast right now, but I'll check these out later
semiconductors are exempt from tariffs
It's unreal how magatards are crashing reality because in their deranged fantasies everyone was already shit
you are talking to delusional polniggers
Shartymarty gets triggered outta nowhere
disgorges offtopic gommunism hurrdurr
wtf, Burger?!
come on man
I like stocks. Get outta here.
When META grows, the entire American populace profits in its growth.
Same for TSLA, yet a lot of leftoids are trying to drop TSLA stock value including cuckold Walz. Strange. You'd think they would want America to benefit.
I think the reason is to maker americans poorer and dumber to generate a lower class for soldiery. Wealthy people don't fight in wars, and we'll clearly see the third big one in our lifetimes.
It is crazy how you little you know about how the economy works; how you cannot even read a 10Q; don't know how to evaluate a case study; how you aren't even able to equate the P/E of a firm; and YET you think
ORANGE MAN BAD; HE CAUSED MY NON EXISTENT PORTFOLIO TO LOSE MONOPOLY MONEY
But you don't live in reality; you live in your own world with skewed perspectives that are derived from hatred and pettiness. Continue being you champ; I love dunking on mentally ill faggots who don't know how to trade nor invest.
Are sure you replied to the correct post whilst being triggered by something?
Because , which is factually correct, couldn't have rustled your jimmies in such a way.
The whigg party is dying and the people who were decieved or angry they are just realizing all their political heroes are all frauds who bamboozled them
Robert Menendez
reasonable criticism met by extreme retort
you could just tell people you're manipulative instead. it would save you a lot of time
Only factually correct for zero dividend niggers like you.
Oh NO!
It's retarded.
$500 stock
$0.50 dividend
Checks out.
crashing reality is reasonable criticism
You could tell people you don't think for yourself and decide to red herring a conversation rather than looking at the valid assumption made about the pozzed person calling everyone they don't like MIGA; as some Karen who won't stop repeating the local cracker barrel joke.
Why you decided to hop on that anons cock is beyond me; but since you are, Lemme slap his cock outta your mouth.
Again you're using extreme depictions to narrate someone who hasnt done anything other than reasonably talk to you.
It's like you have never argued with someone before lmao what a sad pathetic life
Take your meds big boi
reasonably talk
calling everyone you don't like retards because they voted for this; and making money off of this, is petty and full of anger. Not a single person here talks reaosnably when discussing politics or the actual longterm consequences of these tariffs. You are literally trying to tell me to be reasonable and have an honest discussion pertaining to stocks and the macro economics? I am not arguing, at all. I am coming over and looking you in the eye and calling you a mentally ill faggot for coming into a stock market general and complaining about Trump. Show your portfolio or positions or continue getting dunked on. I am studying and bored; I need to polish up on my tongue lashings.
Post your positions lil' man
I'll show you one of mine.
Bullish af
Appreciate the post; but what is your position? any calls/puts? whats the ticker? how much money you have in it? I believe SOXL is coming back when people figure out Semiconductors are being exempt from tariffs
If you cannot deduct that you do not belong here. Piss off.
Will JPow need to abandon the cuts now?
He is angry and crying and you are angry and crying. The reasonable thing to say is to calm down. You're crying about STD, jews and niggers lmao
I had a dream that Trump was impeached and removed from office
My portfolio is nothing but Jim Cramer picks. Best decision I ever made and I’m comfy as fuck right now. You want to make gains? Inverse the inverse Cramer fund.
let me just put words in oyur mouth and make ad hominen statements
Please post the quote where I said anything about, niggers/jews/or STD.
I apologize, I didn't realize you were just as retarded as everyone else. Posting a random sreecnshot with no dates/tickers/ and only a percentage raise for dividend rates. I am not going to screen 100+ stocks looking for your specific margins.I though you wanted to conversate, not peacock around strutting over your own shit.
Out of all the things to dream; you are pozzed as fuck. I dreamed about becoming abducted by aliens, becoming their war hero, fucking all kinds of strange pussy; and coming home with an armada to protect the world from other intergalactic monsters.
why are you bringing up gay shit lol weird homo
no, note the "...so far"
implying that it could still turn out otherwise, Cramer is instead undecided on what it means. Therefore the market is either going to skyrocket monday or completely collapse.
Oh malcolm it's you. I really thought you were smart enough to set the filter. Maybe you really deserve losing everything as peter said.
seriously this dudes having a mega meltdown lmfao
Have you been living under a rock for the past year? Dogshit speculative stocks up 200%+ in the past year with lofty valuations because retail likes it. The whole AI bubble with no viable use case other than an advanced chatbot. Stocks valued at 40x earnings with unrealistic future growth to sustain that price.
Oh yeah, I know this track. i forgot the name of it. I actually already had it in my trance mega playlist. Though, back from that era, I think my favorite is: youtube.com/watch?v=L0KokdO6WR4
This is fine, not really my thing though
Can anyone share twitter posts here or is that only for raging homos and trans women?
Yeah, it is malcom. What up cock sucking faggot. Peter can get bent. Maybe if you all stopped sharing pictures of each other without shirts on, you would make some money. Try talking about stocks instead of being a imbecile. Yeah, I am some dude you know. Becuase the world revolves around you and everything that happens in life is because of your influence. Grow the fuck up and touch grass you NEET. And post your positions, not some screencap off of a shitty paper trading simulator.
Becuase the world revolves around you and everything that happens in life is because of your influence.
Uhm... yes?
what stocks do you even buy to take advantage of the dip?
This man gets it.
what do you think of LCID?
LCID
HQ in california
doomed to fail
Beware Monday: the put catcher. Irrational trend up to liquidate puts. you've been warned bobo, don't come crying to me.
My SOXL Calls are ready
Just shorted reddit.
even if that were to happen, that just means cheaper puts for the rest of the week
monday will literally open red
I should also share, over on Anon Babble /dmp/ we made a 90s trance album. Some of them are good, some of them are... not youtube.com/watch?v=AKJIQBCVpD8
The opening and closing are two trance tracks that one anon actually made in the 90s and dug out of somewhere
Invest in independent music, short SPOTify
Whats stopping me from buying this SOXL call for $11?
I will just keep buying more of my boring boomer stocks every month, it's not like the world will end this time either
How does he do it? Should I drink Coca as well? (it's the better one anyway)
People legit believe his shitpost?
I don't care about my 'folio going down in value because everyone else's did as well. It may sound like cope but it's the truth. My wealth didn't go down, everyone's wealth went down therefore the playing field is still even.
Math; you are saying within the next 15 business days, SOXL is going up over 200%. Be reasonable. Purchase something more achievable like 50% in 3 weeks. Think; SOXX would have to go up over 100 dollars in the next 15 days for you to get the break even on that position. What do the Greeks look like? I have OTM 13$ calls and that is looking like a gamble at this point.
He bought APPL in 2000s and sold in 2024. simple as.
pretty good cope to be honest
I am buying the dip on Precious Metals.
Too many bots spamming it for it to be true. This is called priming for pump and dump. Monday is the pump. Thursday-Friday will be the dump.
literally the opposite
it will dump monday, pump tuesday to wednesday morning hoping for a postponement and then dump
Whats stopping me from buying this SOXL call for $11?
as badly as semis deserve to take back their positions the US gov seems hell bent on deleting slurpers until may or even worse the whole year before we get a pity crypto run and then turn to the 1929 crash and bear
the perpetual state of /smg/
TQQQ or UVIX for Black Monday?
Semis are exempt from the tariffs. The pullback was macro; people will see this and funnel their money into the only 'safe' industries not affected by tariffs
He invests not just spearheads a single company and call it a day
exempt from the tariffs
because they'll be getting over SUPER DUPER MEGA WINNING tariffs after THEY STOLE OUR CHIPS
Im on my way to tripling my account mate, skill issue
Unironically, wealth is relative. This is why when hyperinflation comes, if you don't have the ability to get, I dunno, shin rocks or get your money out of the country/banks/whatever (protip : you won't be able to), you simply just buy stocks. Even the stocks of your own inflationary country. Inflation goes somewhere, and this somewhere is the pockets of the companies.
you won't get richer by buying their stocks, but you won't be poorer. Instead, everyone else will be poorer. Meaning you'll be richer than them, because that's how relativity werks.
nah it was already stalling at 6000
Gavin Newsom will save California from Trumps insanity by negotiating his own trade deals with other countries and opening up Lassen Volcanic National Park for mining rare earth materials for the production. Definitely go long in LCID
ta stops working when people want out of the sinking ship. the line does not go up if new people aren't coming in faster than people are going out
pozzed buffoon.
trillion dollar stocks looking like crypto shitcoins right now. You better believe I am going to slurp until 0.
How will this shit affect me, someone who invests 90% of his income into european stock? I'll just keep ACOOOMOOOLATING forever and my business is working very well. I am young, I can wait 20 years for returns.
people are exaggerating the impact to hilarious levels. people, especially the rich americans that all get paid truckloads of money even for burger flipping will still be able to consume plenty. perhaps a little bit less than in the past but its not falling anywhere near zero
screenshot this post once the 60% tariffs on CPU/GPUs take effect and tech collapses
UVIX for me. assuming trump doesn't back down over the weekend i'll go all in sunday night and ride the lightning until thursday at the earliest. it's gonna be fun.
Stocks valued at 40x earnings with unrealistic future growth to sustain that price.
IMBECILE, earnings came extremely strong last quarter, revenues SURGED.
S&P 500 is sitting today at 17 (!!!) forward PE, the stock market prices were going up because American companies were in extremely good shape and showed extreme promise.
All of this gone down the drain in 3 months for ZERO reason at all.
portfolio in quantum computing shorts from January and GME at $20
Wake me up when people start losing theie jobs
Lads, tell me straight, are we pumping Monday or another 6percent dump
"It is just the stock market funny money disappearing, it isn't real!"
Do people seriously think tariffs don't affect prices in the real world?
this would be amazing but you just know they will never be that based. mags are drug dealers with the whole population as customers and these customers will go on riots when the drug withdrawals hit
it depends on the reaction of the EU to the tariffs, but you can expect downward pressure on EU stocks, especially export-heavy ones, and high risk
we can quantify the tax increase of the proposed tariffs.
people, especially the rich americans that all get paid truckloads of money even for burger flipping will still be able to consume plenty
if americans were happy to expend an additional 10-20% on most imported goods they consume, then why didn't prices hike to that level on their own before the tariffs?
it sounds like you fundamentally disagree with the idea that prices were in an equilibrium before.
May fed meeting was always expected to leave rates unchanged, and even in June the betting odds were leaving them unchanged. Cutting rates was only likely in the July 30th meeting. Now that might be pushed back a couple months depending on how much inflation spikes from this mess.
I know there's a lot of newfags here but it is exhausting watching all the naivety and obliviousness run rampant.
lol wtf so the eu way to btfo trump is to fuck over its own investors even harder. im amazed even the socialist retards can come up with something like this
these people simultaneously think that prices are too expensive and that they're getting ripped off and that a 20% hike in prices is nothing
It's honestly worse than that even. In the press conference yesterday JPow said he was prioritizing "making sure the one time price increase from tariffs is only a one time increase and not a continuing increase". In other words, he wants to see the tariffs go into effect, wants to see prices go up from tariffs, then wants to see prices level out again before he'll even consider a rate cut.
I honestly doubt we'll see a rate cut in 2025 because of this.
I only watch interest rates and money supply. Should I do something else?
With all the negative price pressure from the tariffs, the initial shock should be enough to scare consumers into tightening the belt and closing their wallets. A recession is a likely outcome here, so I don't presume there'll be a constant flight up, nor did Powell really imply there would be either. We'll probably see one by the very late to end part of the year if there isn't some unpredictable violent uptick in inflation because consumers can't control themselves.
go fishing?
go fishing?
Nah, I mean for the markets. Clearly interest rates and money supply changes are lagging, even if they correlate with market and bond movements.
to be honest, you kind of need a great depression economical collapse to force the conditions for reindustrialization, ie most service jobs workers are kicked out and most none industrial company's collapse or massively shrink, and most people become a lot poorer, so that there are availability of a lot of willing worker for lower paying and hard manufacturing jobs, that is unless all of this causes or lead to revolution/civil war
if you are a radical revolutionary both right wing or left wing, the futur is definitely looking bright and filled with opportunity to agitate the populace and radicalise them to extremists views (especially the young mens)
well the solution to that is to get good again. we used to have toasters without that shit and they were better too. this can be done again and everyone will only be happier
it will be easier to sell as this came from external forces rather than the greedy company. people will not give up their comfort slop that easily
and also because infinite growth is not possible. a crash here and there keeps the train going
lol
lmao
implying Euros invest in stonks
Why should they care, they basically don't invest in the stocks market, and when they do, it's breadcrumbs.
Compare that to 65% Ameriburgers being invested, with their pensions tied to the fucking S&P500.
I mentioned a recession. Yields are already dropping. With rates bot moving and price pressure going up, mid level bonds are your safe haven. If you don't want to wait on bonds, then learn how to short.
it depends, after this there will be a lot excess capacity of goods that where distend for the US that could get dumped on the rest of the world which would reduce the prices, but on the other hand the other countrys could start to also tarif each other to prevent this excess capacity from being dumped on them and protect their local industry's which would collapse global tarde and sky rocket the prices of every thing, also if the supply chain of the product you want to buy passes through the US it will definitely increase in price
semi conductors are exempt from the tarifs
then learn how to short.
Are those inverse ETF's any good as an alternative?
but it is true that inflation might still probably be used as a excuse to bump the prices even more then they already did
They're safer in that you can hedge against them, naked options put you at the mercy of your theta and market volatility.
this isn't a punitive measure, it's protecting yuropoor money from another 2008 situation
if they did something like this prior to the GFC, many yuropoor pensions would not have evaporated overnight
so you're saying that people are only willing to give up their comfort slop if it is a company imposing a price hike, not daddy donald? do you genuinely believe that?
to me, daddy donald imposing a price hike is arguably much worse for my willingness to pay a premium for products i want than if every company providing that product hiked their prices. in the latter case, i'd have no hope that prices are likely to go down again, while in the former case, i wouldn't be so sure if the tariffs won't be reverted within months or at worst years, so why not wait with buying the product until then.
yeah the eu way is to tax those few that are foolish enough to work. i would love to know why eu went with a ponzi style retirement system instead of a personal one like usa. obviously the ponzi will collapse if any of the many parameters of the system dip. maybe its just that euros are super illiterate when it comes to this stuff
Time to make a list for my grocery run... let's see what's on sale at KR this week
This is peak clown world. Just look at how they calculated the tariffs - trade deficit divided by exports. Where the hell did they get that from?
People don’t realize how bad this is. The administration of the richest, most powerful country in the world is implementing economic policy that will affect the entire planet and, ultimately, completely destroy their own country. And I bet there isn’t a single economist working on this policy. There’s no way a group of competent economists would come up with something this stupid.
Ultimately, this will just mean global production diverts away from the U.S. to other countries. The dollar will likely lose a ton of value, and the US will no longer be able to export inflation by selling debt and getting free goods in return. Trump is accelerating the US collapse, but the rest of the world will be fine. In fact, the rest of the world will grow richer, while the US grows poorer.
The defense is that this will bring manufacturing back to the US. I don’t think the people making this argument understand what it really means. Americans don’t realize they’ve been getting a free ride under the current financial world order. Their material wealth is tied to this system. They get to sit in offices, do pretend jobs, and act like they’re exceptional and productive - but their standard of living has nothing to do with their work and everything to do with the value of their currency.
gambling retards who use a lot of leverage to invest
Pensions never evaporated overnight in the EU after 2008 though. It's in the US you saw 80yo old having to fill shopping bags for you at the cashier and cleaning the wall mart after the curtain was closed. You never saw that shit in Europe.
This is peak clown world. Just look at how they calculated the tariffs - trade deficit divided by exports. Where the hell did they get that from?
ChatGPT. Literally. Were you in a coma those past three days?
IT WAS WORKING FOR THE PAST THREE DECADES
Shut the fuck up you dumb zoomer. Go play ROBLOX or some other dumb shit.
It was basically a slave labor system, where the slaves were the poor countries producing goods for the US, paid with printed dollars. Moving all that labor back to the US means the industry will need either cheap labor, or raise prices of the goods produced.
The US is throwing away its status as slavemaster since they now have to do the labor themselves, while also making themselves poorer.
See Trump was given multiple options he said the most retarded one was the one he liked
IT WAS WORKING FOR THE PAST THREE DECADES
*posts graph with multiple bear markets and heavy crashes*
what production? most us exports are produced in china which trump is now going to tariff to fix this
yeah instead they increase the pension tax. like now its double that of what americans contribute for their retirement to handle all the old fucks
monday dump bros...
European pensions took less of a hit but still took a hit with countries like Ireland famously being hit worse than the US.
I'm too chicken shit to short on Monday. It just feels wrong to have three giga dumps in a row. No matter how unrealistic it is, there has to be a pump one day
Go and look at financial reports for Walmart or Costco. They have 40x earnings, trading like tech companies. The whole stock market is in a huge bubble and tariffs will be blamed for the crash when this was inevitable.
Started getting serious about maybe investing last winter
The "just stick it in vti+vxus+bnd and chill" strategy seemed appealing to me
The more I looked into it though the more I couldnt shake the feeling that none of its advocates ever think about WHY line always go up in past, they are just content to feel clever making the basic bitch extrapolation that "total market value line go up in past, therefore it go up in future". Its to the point that some feel like they are even proud of their own ignorance
Decide to do nothing
Thank god I just decided to sit on my cash. Going all in on puts right now feel smart-ish, but I think I am too much of a coward to try and play trump-whisperer, you never know when he reverses everything on whim. Do I just keep sitting on my money and enjoy the show?
kek
I'll short if the market is green, but going to stay away otherwise. Way too many fake pumps in the last few weeks, may still be some hopium out there.
You missed the chill part.
niggers think the chill means chill for 2 days and then check the line again
anything invested should be treated as locked up for 10 years
line go up because if line doesn't go up for too long then paper cash won't help me gun down the people trying to take what's mine
the sane hedged position for line doesn't go up eventually is a shotgun with sufficiently many shells, a nice cellar, ciggies and lots of canned food, not holding cash for all eternity
she had a much better chance of winning if she wasn't so anti-crypto
MAGA will fight you to the death that "The wealth will always trickle down" and in the same breath say "The American people are suffering"
The wealthy have never been wealthier and the poorer have never been poorer. Why do you continue to shill Semetic economic theories?
the top 1% will always be the top and the bottom 1% will always be bottom
HOLY SHIT SOMEONE JUST FIGURED OUT HOW STATISTICS WORKS! GIVE THIS MAN A AN UPDOOT AND A GIGGLE STAR!!!!!!
your brain is so smooth i could iron my underwear on it
she wouldve won if it wasn't for crypto
you are so fucking retarded it gives me anxiety
the poorer have never been poorer
not true kek
"The wealth will always trickle down"
FWIW, the Trump admin is publicly walking away from that. I don't agree with their methods, but at least they're finally accepting that the problem exists. This whole tariff thing was designed as a wealth redistribution method from rich to poor but without involving direct govt handouts. Will it work? Of course not. But that is what they say they're doing.
Lol Costco toilet cleaners are making more than software engineers in Germany
You Americans are so out of touch it's crazy, you really do deserve a recession to make you realize how good you had it
inb4
hurr durrr muh cost of living
No retard, your grocery bills are amongst the lowest in the Western world, your electricity is practically free and your country is so big you can buy hectares of land for a few months of salaries.
mmmm firme *slaps*
The people that elected Trump are absolute morons that couldn't make it in the most prosperous economy in the history of human civilization.
the problem with reindustrialization is it takes awhile to build factories, especially now that automation is expected
if the US votes blue in 2028, the tariffs that would make US manufacturing viable again will be removed, and then you have to hope for the 2032 election having trump 2.0 come to power
plants which went under recently and havent been stripped for every last penny could be restarted for a couple mil and probably ROI before 2032, but those are the exception. most goods will just be more expensive due to tariffs + greedflation and no relief will ever come.
bought reddit stock at $193/share
be honest bros will I ever see my money again?
The people who lose are the ones who sell. This is a marathon not a sprint.
450
420 by 4/20
t. 10 year long bag holder
because that system was unsustainable and had massive vulnerability especially with the rise of china, for example if a world war where the US has to fight china in a total war the US would probably get crushed due it lack of industrial capacity, and then guess what would happen then to the (((elite))), their system would entirely be delegitimized and humiliated after the loss, the people would be extremely angry, and the economy would collapse harder then the great depression, the (((elite))) will not only probably lose their power they would also be hanging no long after, so the regime saw the situation and decided to try a more controlled collapse and reorganization rather then the other scenario
This. Building a brand new factory from scratch takes around 5 years from inception to producing products, before even considering when they become profitable. If these companies start building right now, then 3.5 years from now they're still working on it but dems win the election and end the tariffs, then now they've got a factory in the works that won't even make money.
Nobody's going to do it. Companies that already had analyzed that it would be profitable to have a factory in the US will probably build some factories, but the vast majority of companies will just sit it out.
IT IS MAIN STREET TURNS; WALL STREET IS OVER
Main street>wall street> crypto alley
BUILDING BRAND NEW FACTORY?
WE WILL JUST HOLLOW OUT THE MINI MALLS AND TURN THEM INTO FACOTRIES; THIS TAKES 8 MONTHS AND HAS LAREADY BEEN STARTED. GET KEKED NERD
I get its long term, but ya I probably am too neurotic to just chill..
There is a middle ground between "total system collapse" and "economy go up". Until now "line go up" because the liberal world order has been on the rise for the last 200+ tears (with some speed bumps obviously), and I think that will continue to be true on the hundreds of years time scale, but if america commits to a bunkered down protectionist and isolationist state while the less liberal nations get more influence on the world stage I dont thinks unreasonable to see a world where stock values drop or stagnate for the rest of our lifetimes. Now I think odds are good Trump either reverses course on his tariff stuff (or gets assassinated for not backing down), but who knows, maybe this new economic shift is "part of the plan" and the powers behind the scenes agree with this move (at least in principle if not its exact implementation). Though either way I think waning world US influence wont stop and global trade will likely slow
for example if a world war where the US has to fight china in a total war
nukes
real wars between nuclear nations don't happen anymore, only small proxy wars like the one in ukraine or the upcoming one in taiwan.
I voted exactly for what is happening.
TAIWAN
FUNNY WAY TO SPELL GREENLAND
In the case of a nuclear war with China, the US will probably not do too well
Because of that, the only reasonable conclusion is that we just nuke our economy in advance and send our kids to the mines and the sweatshops
4D chess guys
There is a middle ground between "total system collapse" and "economy go up"
there is not because of debt / leverage. if growth were to stop for an extended period of time, then the whole global financial system would crash and burn.
Doubt it. You bought a forum at 50b marketcap
this is the regime will and it wont change unless there is a lot of internal instability and risk of revolt, also i have a feeling that drumpf might be kept by the regime for a third term to energize the patriotards and act as the US xi/putin/erdogan/modi and they will rely on territorial expansion canda/greenland to keep his popularity up
denmark isn't a nuclear nation and the danes aren't willing to fight over greenland themselves because of colonial guilt
I remember thinking that with the hypercapitalist republicans in power the stock market would boom and my shit would double every year. I was a fool
republimemes dropped their actual goals so they could leech off the cult of personality already formed from the first term and secure their jobs
MAGA republicans aren't capitalists.
unfortunately you are not allowed to participate without a million dollar entry fee also known as a university degree. education inflation is huge in the whole west
Armchair economists itt
the hypercapitalist republicans
lol
2025's GOP is the party of Maoism, they are so obsessed with CHINA because they want to BE China
YOU THOUGHT THE FAKE AND GAY MARKET WAS GOING TO CONTINUE?!?! IT WAS OBVIOUS; TRUMP EVEN TOLD US TO BUY PUTS, YOU IGNORE THE DON; YOU GET FUCKED
in china they would do this in 5 weeks max. the west has a regulation problem. let men work and things can happen at incredible speed
Average salary for a truck driver in my area is 100k+. That's more than engineers make in Europe.
ALL THESE PEOPLE AREN'T EVEN ABLE TO READ A 10Q, FORMULATE A P/E, NOR CAN THEY INTERPRET GREEKS
no one will ever use nukes because the elites are not suicidal and love their god lives and luxury's, so conventional world war between great powers is far more likely then you think
USA vs Denmark war
this makes me kek. Can't the US just buy Greenland if they wanted it
There's nothing the fed can do that won't make this worse. Trump has actually fucked the recovery.
the war wont be nuclear you retard, also having a condoled collapse is far less causally then having a uncontrolledly one, where you just lost a massive war and are totally delegitimized (in one scenario the elite can survive in the other they wont and the US would probably collapse into civil war)
i hope you get expelled to north korea, where you belong, you retarded reddit commie
TRUMP IS THE RECOVERY YOU STUPID DIPSHIT! THIS IS THE MONROE DOCTORINE 2.0 MIXED WITH JACKSONIAN ECONOMICS! EITHER GET ON BOARD OR GET THE FUCK OFF
Denmark is a member of NATO. If NATO doesn't respond to the US invading Greenland then NATO as a concept is completely worthless which would destabilize world security hard.
Nigger, the only reason you can't afford anything is because your governments put massive taxes on everything, and red tape on every business venture to make sure it won't affect every women's access to largnïgercöcken
8 years ago you were crying that Elon Musk was the next Messiah. Stay a consumer; you aren't a true trader nor can you invest properly. poor mentality=poorfolio
Consumer goods outside the US will go down in price in order to move the temporary glut of goods destined for the US that will now not be purchased due to their extreme price. Do not panic buy because you will actually have cheaper stuff due to our stupidity. Enjoy cheap shit at our expense, yurofag.
what was the ukraine war for 700 Alex
how could it when that would basically be the usa attacking itself
My bro killed himself because his dad ran a pyramid scheme that imploded.
stuff was high under biden because a lot of trump's tax hikes were delayed to start during biden's term
Nato member vs Nato member is a special case
Damn I ate that donut so fast
Luckily I invested in a spare
With how hard the US is tanking their reputation worldwide there isn't many NATO members left who'd just turn a blind eye to it.
But by all means, invade Greenland and watch the US crumble from economic sanctions.
AND THE MONEY PRINTING; AND THE OIL RESERVES BEING RELEASED; AND THE "TRANSITORY RECCESSION" OH AND DO NOT FORGET THE LABOR MARKET BEING CHANGED EVERY OTHER MONTH!!!!! OOOOOH AND HOW DO WE NOT REMEMBER WHEN BIDEN KEPT CIRCLING BACK TO THE LARGEST INFLUX OF MIGRANTS GETTING PAID UNDER THE TABLE ILLEGALLY;
why is this schizophrenic having a melty
Reading too much into this Greenland shit. Trump just saw it on a map in 2021 and thought it should be part of the USA.
OIL
I just got here but seems like he thought the line went up forever unironically.
I don't know but they need say thank you to trump for giving them the opportunity to inter generational lows
Anyone long on DELL? Good fundamentals and it had a 7% drop yesterday.
inter generational lows
we were at these prices one year ago.
correct. You are welcome.
Invest in companies close to book value and hoarding large amounts of cash to slurp up cheapies in a recession.
Trump
Not Trump
Putin, Biden, macron...covid, clown this clown that
Prices will only go up, currency debases forever
Infinite greed
Infinite money printing
Media are only fairy tale for goyim
So yes, buy assets while you still can
I sold in feburary tho lol
im 100% cash waiting for sub 500SNP
the only reason i wish i wasnt an atheist is so that i could imagine the special place in hell reserved for Killary and her ilk. What a vile bitch.