Musk comes out in favor of a US-Europe free trade zone

Despite the nonsense Trump says we already have relatively low tariffs between the EU and US for almost any industrial products except maybe cars (which is why he cares). And then there's agriculture, but that's a whole other story.

The people working with him also spent a lot of energy trying to divert him away from their work because he keeps pushing his retarded suggestions on them. The cybertruck is what happens when he gets his way.

I think he's smart, but not intelligent enough to know that he doesn't actually know everything. He has the same Silicon Valley Sycophants surrounding him that do nothing more than reinforce his own retarded ideas and as a result, those are the ones that get pushed out to the world 99% of the time.

lol he just realized his companies will be the target dummy when EU retaliates against trump

Losing your religion?

ripped off

LMAO
mutt, the only parasite here is you with your reserve currency

What would be the point of an US-EU FTA now? Businessmen don't want to invest in transatlantic supply chains when someone like Trump can show up and tear it up almost overnight. US-EU trading relationship was already pretty close to being an FTA anyway.

We had such a good thing going too... I'm going to miss making 3x the pay of european software engineers.

Negative tarriffs on the uk and Germany and other european countries
500% tarriff on china, israel, and india.
3% for everyone else
The jew fears the US and Germany becoming trading partners which destroys the parasitic leeching.

can’t believe i’m praying that elon saves us lmao b

so is maga pro free trade or pro protectionism? im confused

True. Tesla, nietschze, mozart, napoleon, alexander are all geniuses but in other ways also super retarded. Its something about that hyper focus that fucked them all up

The point is to propose it to make the EU look like the bad guys (to the retards who hang on their every word anyway) when they logically say "No, Trump keeps tearing those up." They're spinning this so when shit keeps pouring in to the fan they can say "Wasn't our idea. We proposed no tariffs but they wouldn't agree."

except maybe cars (which is why he cares).

Which matches the high tariffs US puts on light trucks. I am looking forward to the day when zero tariffs makes VW and Isuzu be the vehicle of choice for US light logistics. Europe still wont be buying American cars though.

There isn't a single American automaker that still makes cars. They just make trucks and SUVs.

The whole point of the EU is to have a protectionist zone for the French and German economies to exploit. The EU has a huge trade surplus with America in terms of actual goods. This is what Trump is trying to amend so of course the EU isn't going to agree.

A lot of the criticism of tariffs is economically ignorant and hypocritical. A lot of people are ideologically and financially invested in America having a trade deficit with so many countries, which is bad for America, so one way or another these people are going to have to feel pain.

Can be done as long as you institute congress laws that state that deals can not be broken due to some fentanyl subterfuge.

Pacta Sunt Servanda

I own a secondhand ford mondeo (it has been running for 10 years now, i love it) and i see fords and teslas everywhere.

Occasionally youll also see some retard with a dodge ram

The cycle is simple.
Sell shit to America for dollars. America has a lot of shit, so dollar is strong. Then flip the strong dollars you got to buy shit from countries with weaker currencies.
The entire world economic system is just a cycle of making the dollar strong by selling americans shit for cheap, then spending the strong dollars on shit you don't have. This is why developing economies stay developing forever. They have to sell exponentially more shit to get the same dollars as "developed" economies, since their currencies have to be cheap to stay competitive or the Americans buy elsewhere. China and India are the only countries with enough people and therefore production to change the situation, but so far they played the American game and accepted staying poor vs developed economies...

Now trump is changing the game before the Chinese can do it with BRICS. America won't buy cheap shit anymore unless you but its shit too, both cheap and expensive. This mainly means China can't just grow stronger leveraging its population and Europe can't keep becoming a lazy communist state on American dime.

It's honestly a smart move. The chinks 100% didn't expect it. And Russia is already in a good position to be immune. The EU is fucked and will soon resort to begging daddy trump to please let it out easy

These fucking rich pieces of shit have no spine, he's already flaking after the eurocuck chihuahuas yapped at him. I hope Trump tells him to fuck off and stick to DOGE. I voted for eurocucks getting FUCKED

...and ending up with 0.5x their pay after paying mr shekelstein for medical insurance

Ford Mondeos in Europe are made in Europe, same with Teslas

Its still an american car

The EU has a huge trade surplus with America in terms of actual goods.

But is this organic or inorganic? Is there a vast untapped market in Europe for Ford F150s or Chevy Silverados? Europe seems to buy plenty of iPhones and Teslas (or they did). I think Ford has done pretty well in the UK historically. I'm just not sure what product sector the EU is not consuming that they would like them to start consuming.

sounds like he's on his way out and trying to distance himself

I mean you can believe this if your world view is that simple

Barely. Made in Spain. Not even sold in the US. Third generation was a Volvo co-op. Also: not sold anymore.

And somehow thats our fault???

Every one of these is a bot

Steve Bannon has been able to remove Elon's influence from Trump. They both hate each other

I imagine the gentleman is saying that cars made in the US are not likely to take off in Europe, despite what Trump has said he wants to happen

your orange retard will bend the knee before the eurocrats. you think the tech oligarchs that bankrolled him paid for yuuuge margin compression?

BULLRUN CONFIRMED
THIS IS VERY BULLISH

American education

The US can just apply to join the EU.

It's inorganic because the EU enacts tariffs against America (and just about everywhere else). Ostensibly 10%, it's higher in reality. Cars is one clear area where Trump should push hard. Food is different, I feel like America has been destroyed by its cash crop subsidisation and in reality offers little to the rest of the first world in terms of food. I feel like Trump is too stupid to understand this, but maybe RFK Jr does.

That would be good, fuck Bitcoin it ain't gonna pay the debts, 0 tariff trades would

This is literally what happened when Brussels to control over the eu and is in fact a soft coup

Okay. But then the USA should make EU-appropriate cars, like compact vehicles (they wont, theyll keep building pick up trucks and SUV's)

Me in the spot. Light.

Wait a second… I thought tariffs were supposed to be good? How will manufacturing jobs come back, and how will trump get rid of income tax and start a sovereign wealth fund without them? I thought free trade deals were what’s bad

Sure, we drop our tariffs, you drop your 25% tariff for light trucks. Deal?

Didn't he just get humiliated in Wisconsin?

or maybe the EU should abandon their goyim humiliation regulations

Musk comes out

Waiting for the day

straight back to Anon Babble speak

Okay lets just crash and burn

Europeans explicitly do not want a FTZ, that is the entire reason this is happening.

US performs genital mutilation on male infants. Not EU.

If european education is great why are you losing to america and russia?

Oh no, I've said too much

russia

Lmao

i buy things from USA regularly and the problem is not tariffs, never has been. its the VAT

this whole thing is just such a shitshow

This post is essentially MAGA retardation condensed, there's an alternative fantasy reality going on in it's head. They will never understand just because they want something to happen doesn't mean it will, just because they want someone to do something doesn't mean they will. They will keep making up imaginary scenarios and consume it like comfort food, fantasizing themselves sitting next to trump and offering him advices while living in his mom's basement. I do feel pity for these men children

unironically what would happen to stongs if something like that would happen? giga bullish?

the microsecond there's free movement between EU tech wagies and the US the EU instantly collapses

What do you buy from the USA that is VATed at a higher rate than its Euro version?

he's afraid of techbro tax

After Wisconsin he’s probably sliding out of favor

Yeah all the Brie producers and Spanish chorizo factories would be run out of business by corn syrup refineries operated by more highly paid retards

lmao do the people in the US government talk to eachother?

He’s not in the government, he’s like Trumps Rasputin

Too late now americucks

As a person who has been called a genius (unverified) and comes from a family of people that have experienced the same, I can absolutely assure you that most 'geniuses' are just people with autistic hyperfocus. Sure we're super duper good at that one thing or the other, but our whole lives and relationships disintegrate around us because we can't deal with all the little details of life that normies have no trouble with. It's just a grass is greener phenomenon, where people see us absolutely killing it at one or two things and assume we're that good at everything. Meanwhile I haven't been able to check my email since February because it gives me an anxiety attack for some reason.

I'm relatively certain geniuses having extremely insufferable personalities is not a coincidence, more like the same phenomenon being observed either positively or negatively. The actual dream is to have a personal secretary that can hold our world together while we neurotically tunnel vision into whatever we randomly rolled as our One Thing. I suspect that's basically what Musk is; he's a complete autist but he's a complete autist that was born into the kind of support network that only generational wealth can provide. So he was able to actually pursue and execute his manias rather than just whinge online about them like I do.

I think he's smart, but not intelligent enough to know that he doesn't actually know everything.

thats the text book definition of an idiot you faggot

Get gassed you fucking kike

The only way to get to zero tariffs with the EU is for the US to raise tariffs until the EU drops theirs.

check my email since February because it gives me an anxiety attack for some reason

just let your mind go totally blank anon and perform the mechanical motions to open it up. works for me anyhow

hopefully he still has trump's ear

he doesn't, he's political poison after wisconsin and he's being phased out

I suspect that's basically what Musk is; he's a complete autist but he's a complete autist that was born into the kind of support network that only generational wealth can provide. So he was able to actually pursue and execute his manias rather than just whinge online about them like I do.

He used to have a PR handler who kept him in check, booked him as a guest star and cameos in various things and so on, played up the whole "saving the earth/colonize mars" bit to bluster up public support while his Tesla and Spacex started sucking on the government's teet for subsidies and contracts. At some point they had a falling out and the PR person got fired, and Musk has been cruising on an "ok to be a retard if you own the libs" ketamine fueled rampage ever since.

The amount of troglodytes that think that "no tariffs" is "fair" is nuts.
It is like taking out the weight classes from a combat sport and say it is all fair and even now.

Tariffs exist so that countries can protect specific industries and prevent them from being absolutely demolished by stronger economies with much larger production/population, then getting held hostage on those goods they can no longer produce after they atrophy.

People trying to make it so that the US is being taken advantage of because a country has tariffs on it or because there is a "negative trade deficit" genuinely deserve to get shot in the head.

Ok retard.

Nu uh
Consider this: After I pay your mother for sex, per usual, I have a negative trade deficit with her because she is getting more money than me out of that transation, but I benefit in the form of other goods, because I have money to spend and she has goods to give.
Doesn't mean the transaction isn't benefitial.

Listen kiddo you can pretend to be a tough guy and threaten non existent people and play whatever fantasies out in your head, it will never change reality. You will never change reality.
You are a little whiny faggot who no one cares to actually listen to.

I am sorry you felt threatened by a nonthreatening message on a chin board, bud.
The point remains that 90% of morons, which I am assuming include you, have no ideas how tariffs work, what they are for or what a negative trade deficit might mean.
Do you think the people at Vietnam are living large at the back of the US because their imports and exports with the US aren't the same? Of course it isn't the same, it never will bve and it doesn't mean the US didn't have extremely favorable deals for cheaper goods.

He blew millions to get absolutely destroyed in Wisconsin 55 to 45
GOP only likes those who can grift and win

DEPLOY MORE BOTS. INFLUENCE THE MASSES.

I'M GONNA DEPLOOOOOOY

daily reminder that king grifter wants you replaced with cheap brown labor

FUCK OFF WE DON'T WANT YOUR GMO HFCS SLOP AND TRUCKS

this

i was wondering what seemed off to me
what does this mean for the economy that elon is being possessed by the bogs?

lets ask the google ai

Self-determination: The Übermensch creates their own values based on their life experiences.

Creativity: The Übermensch is a "poet of their life" who channels their urges into a beautiful creation.

Independence: The Übermensch is master of their own fate, and doesn't ask what others admire.

sounds exactly like drump and elon

You know what it means. Red candle up my ass think I’ll go for a ride

all me

The Mustang did pretty well as a novelty, I think the current gen is a bit too expensive to really take off like the S550 did in Europe though

He can fuck off

we really dont need to go to mars right now. nor do we need microwave cars/

its time for musk to go down.

TELL RUS TO LAUNCH VINE.X FARTFACE

Smoke and mirrors. Everything is according to Peter Thiel's keikaku

elon cuck gtfo nigger