PRICED OUT

base chain

kek
As I said, the second anyone would try to use the base chain again it would go to $125.
That's why they are desperate for lightning and everything to not settle on base chain.

It's ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC how easily and cheaply the btc "pow" maxi faggots stopped caring about all these things once it set it how unusable and pathetic their shit was.
It was all "POW AND PRINCIPLE" until it didn't work at all and now they sell out to any means of settlement no matter how scammy it is.

The maxis biggest sell point is literally "Just don't even use btc in your tx bro it's totally fine."

Also, they use "median" and all sorts of obfuscatory ways to make it look cheap.
In pic related the "median" fee they report is .20.
Yet they spent nearly $1,500 on 3,500 tx which is closer to $1.80 on average.
PATHETIC.

The utility is money laundering retard.

Bro is calling bitcoin scammy while promoting XRP lmao. Dude your shitchain is missing the first 30k blocks, the company that runs it deleted them to hide the shady stuff they did with the premine.

This is a selling point. They are registered and publicly list wallets and I know where all the XRP is.
Meanwhile a literal intel agency owns 1 million btc and you can't do business with anonymous people.

Ripple administers a chain that does exactly what BTC does at 1/1000000 the cost and 1/10000 the time. I am in business. I want this, not some faggot commie in China wasting my money for no reason.

Hiding the record of the scam is a selling point

Lmaooooooooooooo

fucking XRP nigger. you are exposed as a fucking retard. HOLY SHIT ITS CLOSER TO $1.80 AKSHUALLY GUYS WHAT A SCAM.
a few minutes ago you wrote $125

just fucking kill yourself retard

pretends it matters

I was in btc at under $3.
Satoshi and glowies mined all there was and are eternally dumping on you. Once they've dumped it on you enough they'll pivot because it's useless.

You were miles late and just praying for some miracle. Meanwhile the actual money solutions are being built and you will be poor forever.

I said that for effect because it's true IF PEOPLE ACTUALLY USE BTC.
Your argument is again "hey but if you don't even use btc it's cheap."
lmao

Those bags were SOOOO heavy when we pumped and held a 5x just 5 months ago.
Let me know when btc is at 500,000 and you get my returns.
At that point XRP will be $25 and I'll have won AGAIN.

because lightning network requires locking up the liquidity used to create channels, the amount you send impacts the price
on-chain it's just the size or the bitcoin script that matters so sending $1, $10, ... $1000000 on-chain in one go should all cost the same
lightning is good for a number of small payments and also because it helps relieve the congestion for on-chain operations

BIP-177 is not just a rebranding of the decimal point. It is functionally quantitative easing withing BTC by changing the mentality of people regarding the current value of 1 BTC.
The tactic to drop the decimal is for all intents purposes the same thing as an overvalued stock doing a stock split to trick more normies into buying more of it because they remember it used to be more expensive. It is a fucked up jewish way of tricking people who do not understand market capitalization and the fact that traditionally high stock prices acted as a value indicator for the average investor.

Checked and I know.
That's why BTC sucks balls though. You either don't use BTC, or it's tx fees are higher than credit cards until you send like $2,000.
It's only practical for like .1% of global daily tx that happen to be over a threshold. OR, you aren't even using btc.
If you aren't using POW BTC...then...obviously XRP and XLM are superior means of transacting value.
So the argument is lost. Square peg, round hole.
There is a reason XRP/XLM will win and it's because they are actually efficient means of value transfer that increases productivity and lowers costs.

Wrong.
It's a rebrand so people will forget about the glowfaggot scum that mined the first million and called themselves "satoshi".

The DoD had a press conference saying they met with the "FOUR satoshis."
Why was this not news? Why did no btc maxis clamor to know?
Because everyone already knows their precious "freedom of money revolution" is a literal government intel operation to enslave them.

the wallets that satoshi has have never sold any btc

Kek cope more

Post portfolio, show 1m min

Everyone uses monero nowadays for that, or any other criminal activity for that matter. Since btc isn't anonymous

THAT wallet.
But retard, poor retard, who else do you think was mining early? It's just that million that was kept right?
It wasn't the first 5 million right? Or 9/10 of the first 10 million right?

It was just closet neckbearded faggots right? Just people that were early right?
kek

Bro why you so concerned with the bitcoin supply and who mined it when you use a shitchain that mined 100% of it for themselves and have been dumping it on baggies like you for over a decade?

YOU were the one concerned and tried to imply it was any different than my favorite pre mine XRP.
PREMINE IS GOOD.
It's pointless to do work for no reason commie retard.

But I like it upfront and I know Ripple has it and Ripple uses it to grow the network HENCE ME BEING UP 15x.
They are a real business and their product is useful and they report where it is an what's done with it.

YOU are the retard that tried to pretend your commie faggot retard chain was different.
I would be fine with satoshi if he wasn't lying scum intel agencies fooling retards and staying anonymous with a trillion dollars hidden away.

Being dumped on and not having a new USD ATH since 2018 is good

Lol have fun buddy.

Anon, I...

Dull.

Physical goods require active force simply to maintain ownership, trust-based assets require trusted third parties (TTPs) to operate them. Storing abstract economic value in either enables negative sum actors (NSAs) to parasite as negative sum actors can specialize exclusively in force, taking physical goods by force and either coercing TTPs, or using force to BECOME the TTP (the origin of State). Positive sum actors had to either reduce their own production to make time for murdering/imprisoning/exiling NSAs, pay extortion to them, or employ positive sum actors specializing in force (police/military), however, as abstract economic value was seizable, there was a constant selection pressure for these “immune cells” to turn malignant.

Hence the cyclic nature of empire/nation growth and decay, positive sum actors build, negative sum actors corrupt and destroy, NSAs are excised & PSAs rebuild from the ashes. As can be seen, PSAs have been at a HUGE disadvantage to NSAs through history, the best “solution” we had come up with pre-BTC was Plato’s Benevolent Philosopher King, a perfectly trustworthy trusted third party, do you have any Benevolent Philosopher Kings lying around? Not a real solution.

But by placing abstract economic value beyond the veil of voluntarity, positive sum actors can reverse the advantage. Satoshi has “fixed the glitch”, NSAs will no longer be able to parasite “so it'll just work itself out naturally”. No force, no confrontation, necessary.

Bitcoin obsolesces coercion, achieving Voluntarism not via an impossible to implement memeshit “non-aggression principle”, but by removing the profitability of force.

exactly what BTC does

Bitcoin is trustless, cripple is trust-based

hans hermann hoppe in the house

Coinbase and other just need to denominate in satoshis

Stopped reading after "band" braindead niggerspeak for zoomers.

9 million sats isn't good enough

People buy BTC at the price they deserve. BTC is an IQ test.

drop a band

cooked

Why is he talking like this?

You don't see where this is going.
Everything is going to be money. Tokenized assets will be ENTIRELY liquid.
Money will be oil, kilowatt hours, whatever asset you want because it will flow into and out of "money" assets frictionlessly and with a cost that is basically zero.
BTC can be a part of that, but only because people invested in it (GLOWIES) want it to be. It's not adding value because you can actually own the value right up until the exact spend point.

You will even be able to set asset ratios to spend your most dollar relative (or local currency relative) asset. If oil pumps against USD more than your gold, you can/will auto spend the pumped asset.

You just don't have the vision to extrapolate the consequences.
Your reasoning is solid though up to the point where you can't extrapolate what's going to happen into the future 20 years.

Protip. I trust people I know who are.
Protip. People make deals, not shitcoins.
Protip. Don't ever try to get into real business.

Yeah fuck everyone born after a certain point, great "currency" you got there.

Yeah fuck everyone born after a certain point, great [anything] you got there.

bitcoin is annoying to actually use. its super slow at completing a transaction. imagine you go to a store and have to stand at the checkout for a hour before it shows up as paid

I'm finna drop a band on dat bitcoin nigga. Imma put in a rack fr

if only bitcoin had an instantaneous low fee layer 2...

lightning addresses cost a lot to activate. you can't just generate them for free like the normal ones

if only it wasn't paywalled

if you're that broke use a custodial lightning wallet. the custodian isnt going to steal your $75 or whatever lmao

well its pretty crazy that i have to pay hundreds of dollars for the privilege to send a few. and people thought paypal is bad...

you can create an inbound and outbound channel, today, for ~$3 (3,000 sats)
or you can use a custodial wallet which will not charge you anything (eg wallet of satoshi)

DON'T YOU SEE IF YOU JUST NEVER OWN YOUR KEYS AND DON'T EVEN ACTUALLY USE BITCOIN IT'S THE ONLY WAY

kek It's parody at this point.

money laundering through a product that forever registers your every move

if you want your keys, pay for them.

You don't have an argument. Bitcoin is MEANT to scale on higher layers. The reason it isn't a shitcoin like eth is because they aren't foolishly trying to make it doing everything at the base layer.

Additionally, it's funny to me how we get people here simultaneously saying btc will die because miners won't make money, while also saying that tx fees can easily go above $100 if there is any congestion. Which is it?
It's inevitable that in order to maintain decentralisation the base layer will become a settlement layer with higher tx fees, and trivial transactions will be done on L2.

what's a lightning address? you mean an invoice?
those cost nothing

I never said it had anything to do with miners making money.

I am in business. I want this, not some faggot commie in China wasting my money for no reason

aka shitskin that wants his scam coin to go up

All this means that it's literally a ledger for elites and not money anyone can use.
You have lost and are trying to argue these things as a massive cope.
I was in btc very early. $3 early. I did well on it and moved on. The story that was sold is not the story now being sold.
Why? Because it's all bullshit floating in the wind.
People want a fast and cheap way to transact and BTC isn't it. You've eschewed all principle for "number go up".
You can still make money, but end the cope. Hold it because it will go up. Not because of all this bullshit you keep having to change every year when it is obviously a massive failure.

No. A white guy with three white kids in the midwest that actually wants efficiency and cost savings.
It's literally commie chinks and commie glowies push your shitcoin.

I'll take Ripple. The highly competent and efficient company that helps market the XRPL and I don't even have to ever talk to them about it once.

that's like 900k SATS.

just get them used to that lingo.

i guess the term was channel. the wallet was implying it would cost hundreds of dollars to open one

but by removing the profitability of force

wut
there have already been bitcoin mining incidents that involved kidnappings and power tools
at least they can take your physical goods and leave you alone, if you have all the goods stored in your head - there's only one way to steal them
and as bitcoin gets more scarce, it gets more profitable to simply destroy it, as the value of destroyed bitcoins effectively get split among all the current bitcoin holders

yeah. depending on what you use them for, channels can be expensive
first, you're locking up liquidity, you're paying fees for the channel commitment, and if you're planning to receive a lot of payments, you might need to pay for inbound liquidity
but regular banks and credit cards also have a lot of fees. we just don't notice them anymore and accept them as part of reality. The main trick is that they don't charge users per transaction but rather vendors, so it feels like you're getting away with something but vendors just pass that cost on to the end user
ripple has some good ideas but it's definitely a ledger or elites.
1. to be a validator node you need to be added to the UNL list which is managed by ripple labs
2. there's no benefit to being a validator node because there are no mining rewards so you eat the cost of running the node for no benefit
so who ends up running these validator nodes if not elites?
sorry if I'm getting something wrong. I know more bitcoin than ripple but bitcoin seems more permissionless. ripple feels like a licensed product, which is fine if that's what you want.

Buy XMR before you're priced out AGAIN

i wonder how the card jews split $0.01

Holy shit, it took until 2020 before the dollar was finally worth a dollar?