Do you really want to work in a factory all day making iPhones?
Do you really want to work in a factory all day making iPhones?
I don't want to work my fake tech job DESU
Yes actually
Problem?
If I get paid enough to afford a house and
and a family idgaf.
I want to work in a factory making artillery shells for eternal war
You want to work a grueling full-time factory job making iPhones for $14,000 a year? I don't think you're being honest.
I would if it had a pension and union like US factory jobs used to have
no. i worked in a HOLLOW CORE DOOR SKIN factory for 3 years. i much prefer doing accounting wfh for $120k a year.
they do it for the love of the game.
My grand father sewed shoes and was illiterate, he owned a house outright, had 2 new cars 4 kinds he put through college and a stay at home wife.
That won't happen considering the government is captured by big business and they'll want to cut as many corners as they can.
We live in a very different world anon.
No, that's for the plebs. I myself am gonna be a crypto millionaire without ever breaking a sweat.
I want to work in a rubber tire factory
yeah and listening to the investment kikes about lead to that world.
How much they paying?
Not a lot
Yes, if it paid $40 a hour. Which is how much factory workers would be paid today if pay actually indexed with inflation the last 70 years. Keep in mind that this is for a job with only high school requirements.
What else are you supposed to do? There are literally no jobs so it’s better than nothing.
Do you think the Chinese people who make your iPhone now make enough to afford a home and support a family? Or do you think they make slave wages, live in a dormatory with suicide nets, within a locked compound?
People thinking they'll make more money than they do now working a low-skill factory job are mentally deficient. You'll be a sweatshop slave so people can have cheap goods, or you'll be a poverty wagie so people can have profoundly expensive goods. In neither scenario do and the rest of the American people win.
for 14k a year
Goalpost status: moved.
Why did we have good lives before we allowed american businesses do business with slaveholders in chyna?
So you’re dumb ass assumes that bringing jobs back into the US equals bringing in the same labour laws as China? Are you intentionally this obtuse because you hate Trump?
If I'm getting paid the same it beats being an office drone surrounded by soys and women
But no, I want to the guy who runs the factory, designs the products or charges $200 an hour to fix a simple fault
They have a derangement syndrome anon. It's a retardation in their brains. There's no cure. Back in the old days they'd be institutionalised but we aren't allowed to do that anymore, which is bullshit
Because America was on the gold standard and they couldn't debase the currency through inflation. This is first and foremost and if you don't fix the money, then you don't fix anything. If you don't know this, your an idiot.
Because unlimited immigration from the 3rd world (both legal and illegal) was profoundly limited by today's standards and the legal immigrants we got were real people and not jeets with fake credentials, keeping the supply of workers in demand.
Because countries and economies were less connected, so relying on specific inputs from around the world wasn't practical, much less economical.
If you want to pay Americans even just $15 an hour to make all your goods, the cost of them will skyrocket. If you thought there was a cost of living crisis now, just wait until everything costs twice as much.
Why would a company like Foxconn invest the billions into factories in a country where they have to observe all those labor laws and pay people higher wages? To sell to a bunch of US citizens who are gonna be saving all their money cause of all the prices going up?
It's way too risky, they're probably just gonna sit tight and hope Trump will cave or that whoever's replacing him in 4 years will lower tariffs back down.
They couldn't even build the factories, get them staffed, and then be operational in 4 years. Never mind that the infrastructure also isn't here. Have you seen how long it takes to add 1 more lane to the highway? The better part of a decade, and even that's just a few miles.
Funny thing is Foxconn actually did try to build a factory in Wisconsin, mostly cause they got a fuckhuge tax credit for it. They super scaled back their initial plans though. The reason? They didn't wanna pay American wages.
Are you intentionally this obtuse
I want to work in a flower shop in some village in Switzerland, that sort of place that has no relevancy, I'd make deliveries driving some tiny van, I'd cycle around the hills on my free time, maybe have a dog or a cat, watch those euro cycling races whenever they passed by the village.
Pretty sure the US has a shitton of recently-unemployed bureaucrats that they can put to work in that factory all day making iPhones.
it's not just the wages, it's their relatively low productivity
Factories employee tons of women retard, partially because they're easier to exploit.
I worked in a metal fabric plant. The only place that was actually all men was the department that did smelting and hammering. Like real heavy lifting grunt work. Once the metal is extruded down to reasonable sizes it's mostly handled by women.
I assume this is the same for other industries. Women can be trained to operate manufacturing equipment.
Those jobs are for republicans. I'm gonna make it rich developing video games for zoomers with low attention spans.
That's what a real man would do
Buy up all the garbage cellphones you can get now. If new phones are soon to be $30,000 you can get rich on discount iphone 8s.
Problem?
My mom worked in an 'above the board' American sweatshop in the 90s-2000s making garments for mid tier mall chains. Most of the employees were either green card holders or citizens. The pay was barely above minimum wage with no benefits. There were also sketchy piece rate pay schemes that didn't quite add up, and you had a lot of soft quotas that they'd hassle you about. Despite all of this corner cutting, the owner of her sweatshop still closed down to move production to Vietnam by the 2010s. I highly doubt you could sustain these kinds of jobs at a livable wage while still complying with the ACA employer mandate at scale. If these proposed jobs won't even give you full time hours to skimp on benefits, what's the point?
You didn't have good lives back then. Anyone boomer generation and younger could never handle great depression living standards.
Yep same problem with TSMC right now.
Anon, how much do you think those dirt poor people in 3rd world countries make to assemble your iPhone? If you're not willing to compete with foreign labor, then there's no point in bringing manufacturing back to America when it will always be cheaper to have Wang assemble it in China and have it shipped to the US.
Just like my ancestors
China itself didn't allow almost foreign anything before 2000