You aren't still holding tesla stock, are you?

is there a technical reason these cars need to be ugly?

yes but you wouldnt understand

I just lost my car 3 days ago, I wish I had that ugly boxy truck least I'd have a fucking vehicle

t. uninsured driver pulled infront of me when he was sitting at a stop sign

Aaaaand by $25K they meant to say $60K.
Rounding error. Damn Trump tariffs.

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I still don't understand how Tesla true believers can say with confidence that every T buyer will be stoked to have Joe Schmoe, Jamal Blackman, Poo en Loo, or Fats McWale riding without supervision
I doubt most Tesla buyers are chomping at the bit to have their daily driver get thrashed, and I also doubt they're all low income entrepreneurs who want to run a cab service
If you think Elon won't take his cut from rideshares too you have your wishing hat on

Shitboxes all over the country are selling for exorbitant prices, and with Zion Don's tariffs things are about to get worse. I already preordered mine. Fifty bucks is a small price to pay to protect myself from the soaring cost of buying a car, which is essential for being a functional, independent adult in America. Hard times are coming, a beater truck may be exactly what I need in the near future.

I was just thinking about how absurd it is that the US doesn't have affordable electric vehicles on the market, like China and Russia do. Looks like the """free market""" in the US has finally caught up to the rest of the world.

I actually like their whole minimalist philosophy. No built-in screen or radio means I'm not stuck using a shitty jeeterware system I'd otherwise get in a car at this price point. I can put in my own instead, and replace it once it becomes obsolete or worn out.

The only thing that upsets me is having to fucking turn a crank to roll down the windows. And let's hope Zion Don doesn't have a falling out with Musk in the next year and get rid of the EV tax credit out of spite.

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You weren't allowed to build cheap vehicles before electric bullshit allows you to sidestep all sorts of ICE regulation
Also it being a truck means you can dodge other bullshit regulation

not having a radio is absurd
50 year old cars still have working original radios
Looking at all the completely unnecessary cosmetic details around the car... but they don't want a radio...

If an electric truck starts selling for $25K for real, then I demand my affordable, uncanny valley realistic robot waifu by 2027.

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Built in the USA albeit

They need to aggressively cut cuts in order to manufacture cars at this price point in the US. With the tax credit, they'll be able to sell cars for $20k, which is competitive with EV manufacturers who build in China and have access to all sorts of economies of scale and cheap labor that US manufacturers don't have access to.

All the little shit you take for granted in a car costs serious money to include. Just the paint jobs on a typical car require a billion dollar plant for painting all those metal parts up to the standards expected on a vehicle.

Leaving all those little things out means they'll be able to sell affordable vehicles in spite of Trump's autism causing a trade war all across the world. The supply chain is primarily located in the US.

I don't want the shitty radio they would have included for me at that price point, I'd rather buy the car at a reasonable price and then buy the radio I want myself and put it in. It's made with modularity in mind. They already have a network of places you can get service on them all across the US. It's like if the autists who designed the Framework laptop decided to make an electric vehicle.

I looked this company up and it prides itself as being "female led" or operated something retarded like that. The head designers name is "Tisha Johnson" which sounds like a shaniqua. The CEO is some blonde dike. This however is how Bezos operates (giving women prominent roles in Amazon Prime Studios, Blue Origin's all female space flight).

He's a total women empowerment faggot and he's willing to waste billions to push this point. He makes so much money that losing money means nothing to him.

I've worked for women and I've worked for men, and if I were rich as fuck like him I would do the same thing. Men are way more likely to be lazy entitled fucks who treat the job as a joke

if ur a literal salesman
do not reply to me

The Betatruck

You vill buy zee carslop

What does that mean.

I'd still take one, I lost my only ability to get to my specialist doctors, I'm about to shoot myself unironically my hope is dashed for normalcy.
That truck looks like freedom right now.

It means I slammed into a 1300 lbs wall with a 4000lbs battering ram with me at the wheel.

I'm not a salesman, the fact I'm so excited about this car is a sad indictment of where we are as a country. You need a car in order to get around and be a functional adult in 99% of the US. It is NOT an option for an adult. But there are no affordable vehicles on the market. You have to go into debt to buy some shitty Hyundai made in Korea for $50k, not even something that will get you laid, just a regular ass unremarkable car. The payments and the insurance on this vehicle plus the exorbitant cost of rent and possibly student loans and childcare combine to make the average American a peasant with no disposable income.

China, Russia, and even African countries have access to sub-$20k electric vehicles made in China, a country that for the last twenty years has been developing into the industrial and scientific powerhouse that's able to make affordable electric vehicles possible (a huge step forward for humanity and for working people everywhere). The only way a US manufacturer can compete is by selling shitty peasant vehicles made with Volksturm-esque cost-cutting and efficiency measures, like requiring you to roll the windows up manually instead of having buttons to do it, as if you were driving a fucking Model T. It's pathetic.

There are plenty of cars under 30k...
but yea our economy is filled with endless bureaucratic involvement, and established companies who thrive within that framework

"Service economy". Production jobs being removed means people are employed in fakework jobs and middleman jobs instead.

China, Russia, and even African countries have access to sub-$20k electric vehicles made in China, a country that for the last twenty years has been developing into the industrial and scientific powerhouse that's able to make affordable electric vehicles possible (a huge step forward for humanity and for working people everywhere). The only way a US manufacturer can compete is by selling shitty peasant vehicles made with Volksturm-esque cost-cutting and efficiency measures, like requiring you to roll the windows up manually instead of having buttons to do it, as if you were driving a fucking Model T. It's pathetic.

You had me with the first part of your post but the second part is just lol

It's chinkshit. It's not ever going to actually work as advertised. Stop being naive, or alternately stop being chinese.

Do we have brand-new, quality EV's on the market for less than $20k? No, we don't. Instead you have to buy DeShawn's 2015 Honda Accord that he dented on his way to see his parole officer.

The sales price of the average vehicle in the US is $50k, which is absurd when you think of the shitty cars that you typically see on the highway. And I live in a high income part of the country.

it's Chinese so it's le bad

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Whatever, Elon. You should drop the gamer shit, it doesn't suit you.

Now I know you're a chink. Cmon chang, post your xiaomi with its exploding battery.

elon

This thread is literally about bezos. You can't even keep it straight because you're a twofaced 5 foot 4 bugman whose sister is fucking a white guy.

You couldn't even read a basic english sentence, don't cast stones you fucking sperg.

So I'm a chink for stating facts. Alright faggot. The fact you've taken my assessment of *checks notes* the US automobile industry to heart says quite a bit about you.

so you can feel bad about being poor

I was considering on buying this truck but my car still has years of life and if jeff bezos is pushing this I don't want to buy it
If it was a gas car I might have considered it a bit more but 150 miles travel limit stock as an electric car I am better sticking with gas regardless.
I can buy a normal gas car for much cheaper right now and have it last much longer without the stress of being low on battery for the few days I do end up traveling a bit further

I wish this board had country flags so retarded racists like you would have to at least be somewhat accurate with stereotypes instead of just whipping out whatever race is most convenient for you in the moment. You'd probably switch over to accusing everyone of being trans which isn't much better, but it would still be an improvement

The Bobcat is based and you can't convince me otherwise

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You have a point. Women are really good in following directions.

25k

Just import the fucking chinkslop already I don't care if it blows up under me I'm insured

truthnuke. the US economy is undergoing a soviet-style collapse. millions must buy
I am a trans chinese communist and I love eating ze bugs and living in a pod and owning nothing

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Nah, anon. I'm looking at what’s next, the machine economy. PEAQ is building the infrastructure for it, letting machines own, earn, and pay each other without middlemen.

based Bezos dunking on wagies

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Can I buy calls on this? Seems bullish honestly

You can buy a battery for it that extends the range to 240 miles, which is reasonable. If you leave it charging overnight at home and bring a travel charger with you, range shouldn't be an issue.

I would much rather buy a brand new BYD EV for 20k than some soiboy Tesla for 60k that will get firebombed by Timmy after seeing virtue signaling on Xitter and the resale value of Teslas is so atrocious it will effectively be less than 15k if i try to sell it.

If you are really defending the zogslop quality of Teslas and the dumpster on wheels they call the Cybertruck then you unwillingly allow Elon direct and quiet access to your shit-covered slophole.

You can buy a battery for it that extends the range to 240 miles

just pay an extra $15k for a better battery bro

It's not a fucking bargain anymore at that point, is it?

If they make this as an SUV I'd live in this

you canit's fucking kino, you can customise it with a screwdriver

The battery is like $2k you mongoloid, a $22k electric truck after the tax credit is still a better option than the shitty used gas-powered cars that would be your only option at that price. If only because EV's require a lot less regular maintenance and you would be getting a brand new car. No quarterly oil change, none of that shit. Just get your tires rotated once a year and voila.

At that price, all that I'd be able to buy is some horrid Japanese or Korean piece of shit that's already been used. You have to push a fucking 2015 Honda Accord unless you want to drown yourself in car and insurance payments.

Not everyone will appreciate this car's form factor, but I think it looks good and it's objectively better-looking than the other options you have on the market at the same price point. Maybe it's a struggle car but I can finally be a failure to launch adult in style.

a $22k electric truck after the tax credit is still a better option than the shitty used gas-powered cars that would be your only option at that price

$22k

OP says $25k, which one is it? I understand that you're a shill and you're being paid to do this but that's still no excuse for telling such absurd lies. If I needed a cheap car then there are a variety of Kias available brand new for UNDER $20k. Looking right now and I'm seeing 2025 Kia Souls for $17k and somehow, magically, this is an ICE that has backup cameras and lane assist and whatever other retarded modern shit people want; they're not playing some game of

uhhhh we didn't put speakers in the car to pass the savings to YOU

Are there people who would like a cheap pickup? Yes, of course. Is $25k a good price point to attract those people? No, not even close.

That's literally what I want. Everything you need, nothing you don't.

I'd love one to be honest either one, at this rate I'd love any car but if I had enough to afford either one I'd probably buy it, 140 miles per trip is pretty good I rarely drove 100 miles in one sitting.
and yeah can always paint and customize one probably pretty cheaply, I grew up painting cars and a brand new car like that would be super simple to sand and respray.

Why even sell it for 25k when people are willing to pay 60k for a fucking Tacoma?

I'm gonna make it real simple so you can understand. The base model will cost $27.5k. The EV tax credit brings the price down to $20k. Let me know if you need me to slow down.

The base model on the Kias starts at $20k and with dealership fees and all that other shit you're looking at a sticker price of $25k. That's not a problem with the Slate Truck because they do direct sales. Besides, I don't want to drive a fucking Kia, the whole point of me buying this car is I want to be a cheap bastard but I also want to drive something that looks good.

they're not playing some game of

uhhhh we didn't put speakers in the car to pass the savings to YOU

This is a brand new company that hasn't even started production. Most startups die because investor money dries up before they become cash flow positive. The founders of Slate are trying to get to that point as quickly as possible, and that means sacrifices need to be made. They can't give themselves the luxury of building a billion dollar plant just to paint their trucks like every other car. You think it's easy for a startup to get investor money in this day and age?

I thought I was on a business board, but I forgot that most people here are literal children. Why does the existence of this car make you so butthurt? If you don't want one, then good for you, no one gives a shit. But the existence of this car is objectively a good thing for US consumers. Like I said, if you want a BRAND-NEW, ELECTRIC VEHICLE for less than $20k in the US, this shit is our only option for now. The good thing about this is it'll light a fire under other companies' asses to produce more affordable options. But you can't see that because you're a faggot teenager who identifies more with daddy Musk who's trying to replace you with H1B pajeets than with the average consumer.

No one believes that until it is actually for sale. The cybertruck was announced at a price much lower than it actually came out for.

I mean it's got crank windows it's probably loud when driving, I'd be highly suspect of it being very safe at first.
Most cars typically get recalled after they are distributed even Tesla had many issues and still do.

Crank windows....

Isn't an EV pickup basically about as good at hauling stuff as a gas minivan? It's a shame we don't see more barebones pickups but with engines that can actually do something.

Edison Motors is doing something cool with the diesel-hybrid powertrain, the EV battery weight and range really cucks pickups, especially in rural areas where people need pickups to do useful things, not pickup free crap off Facebook marketplace.

Do you know how many people actually use their trucks for hauling anything?
Hardly any

former truck salesman as well

In 2001 I bought the Kia Rio. At the time it was the cheapest automatic car in the US. The parts were shit, it had little power and was totally destroyed in a 30mph hit. It also had crank windows.

shills having a meltdown when you call them out

The base model will cost $27.5k. The EV tax credit brings the price down to $20k.

lmao
EV tax credits are nonrefundable, you retarded shill. The sort of people who would be interested in a cheap truck don't pay anything close to $7.5k in taxes so no, they're not going to be getting it for that price even with a credit.

The base model on the Kias starts at $20k and with dealership fees and all that other shit you're looking at a sticker price of $25k.

Child, you can go look this up right now if you want. There are tons of Kias and other cheap cars available new for well under $20k and this is of course if you're buying new and not slightly used. No one on the planet with $25k to spend on a car is going to buy your shitty EV.

Besides, I don't want to drive a fucking Kia

So basically you're the cybertruck consumer. You could get a nicer vehicle with more features but instead, you're choosing to pay a huge markup because you think that this retarded boxy shit
that looks like a literal child's toy "looks good". Well, lots of retards thought that cybertrucks looked good too. Hey, remember all the quality issues those had? I'm sure your brand new startup that's never built a car before will totally be able to pump them out with perfect quality.

this, that's why im moving to russia, the west is finished. Moscow might be the last developed majority white city on the planet

I know you're right, my point is this is a pickup for people who don't need a pickup in the first place.

??? Where do you live?
In the US the cheapest new Kia is 20k not well under that.

I had a freestyle Anon Babble unironically helped me buy to get to medical treatments, then some dumb bitch hit me going 70mph and fled and fucked my neck and back up bad, but car was still mostly drivable, until 4 days ago some fucking meth head on a motorcycle pulled out infront of me when he was suppose to be at a stop sign, and I creamed into him going 40ish mph, i swerved at the last second so I didn't directly t-bone him but my car was fucked up bad, then the fucking dumb fire department came and cut all the major wires inside of my car disabling it completely, then the dumb motherfuckers stood the guy up without checking him first, and then tried to come to my house 2 hours later and have me arrested because I chastized them for cutting all my wires for no reason.
I fucking hate this green earth lemme tell you but yeah I'm with you on the car it's worth it.
But it survived 2 wrecks and kept me alive it was a good beast shame the dumb fucking firemen killed it I could have probably salvaged the remains.

The sort of people who would be interested in a cheap truck don't pay anything close to $7.5k in taxes so no, they're not going to be getting it for that price even with a credit.

Sounds like you're trying to convince yourself bud. As for me, I'm looking forward to having the chance to pay cash for a brand-new electric car in a year's time. No car payment for me. If I'm a shill, at least I'm getting paid to be here. Meanwhile, here you are grandstanding and getting butthurt for free.

I literally can't see any downside to my decision to preorder. Fifty bucks is candy money nigga, I spent more on Uber Eats yesterday. They'll even refund it if you ask them to, lol. Have fun getting reamed by tariffs and having the price on that $20k Kia balloon to something a lot higher.

Find a friend with dealer's tags and you can avoid paying taxes on it.

anon is just now learning that dealers regularly sell unpopular models or excess inventory for under msrp

I live in the US. I can't believe you're shilling this hard when you've never even bought a car before. Go to any online car buying website, filter by lowest price, and you'll find tons of new cars between $15-20k.

Bezos is the worst boss and best vendor in history, that's why. Also he probably contracted it and makes more off of each sold than he can make from up selling the margins.

Who gives a shit faggot you know they are right, most cars now are insanely high

filter new cars

What cars with 26k miles repo'd after driven into the ground by Tyrone and smells like chicken grease and grape blunt wraps?
You know how hard those shitty cars get ridden into the ground?

I sold "barely used" dodges in 2007 with 12k miles with knocking engines.

Sounds like you're trying to convince yourself bud.

Convince myself of what, exactly? EV tax credits are nonrefundable. Fact. A single person making $30k a year, ie the sort of poorfag this might be appealing to, is paying less than $5k in taxes a year. Fact. If EV tax credits were refundable then sure, you might have a point. But anyone who is too poor to buy a real car is also too poor to benefit from these sorts of tax credits.

I literally can't see any downside to my decision to preorder.

I'd explain the downsides to being an early adopter but I think you'll figure them out on your own in the unlikely event that these things actually start getting produced. Keep shilling, though.

I'm on my 4th car and you are just making stuff up.

This board attracts the strangest fucking people I swear.

you're an amazon shill!

On a dead finance board?
You think amazon is chomping at the bit to wait for Anon Babble to come back up so they can shill their electric trucks?
Use reason, stop assuming so much, also stop fucking caring about the opinions of other people, and stop making shit up because you're upset.
This kind of behavior is becoming so prevalent it's exactly why I almost got arrested after getting a major concussion.

This is the cheapest new car in western Pennsylvania.

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What cars with 26k miles

No you retarded nigger, new cars. If you need a car and all you care about is the price then there are plenty of cheap cars out there. I don't know what to tell you. Here's 500 pages of brand new cars between $15-20k.

cars.com/shopping/results/?dealer_id=&include_shippable=true&keyword=&list_price_max=&list_price_min=15000&makes[]=&maximum_distance=500&mileage_max=&monthly_payment=&page_size=20&sort=list_price&stock_type=new&year_max=&year_min=&zip=11111

not intended for you but the guy sperging out about car prices and taxes.

see

Jamie pull up what the fuck is wrong with 2024 mirages....

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It's literally a three cylinder shoe.

Okay I didn't see the Mirage was cheaper than the Soul. My local dealerships I just checked don't seem to carry it.

Eh it's 78 horsepower, going to 22-25k you're looking at Kia's and shitty chevy economy cars as well.

Still overall I think I'd rather do the new EV, the company probably will be more willing to fix problems and less costly and maybe free considering the new-ness of the compay versus these older corporations who couldn't give a shit less if you die struggling to get up that hill.

201 HP for the slate truck/suv incase you were wondering.
Nearly 3x the power of a mirage.

broke bitches cybertruck ooooo

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the absolute bottom barrel cheapest available new car is kinda shitty

wow, what a shock
it's almost like you get what you pay for

I never said you could get a quality new car for $15k. I said that if you want a cheap car, you can find a cheap car. Keep moving those goalposts, though.

Better to compare it to the Soul with 147hp.

This is your battle chief I will never have a new car anyway, just comparing cheap mexican shit to cheap chinese shit in the end.

sell beater truck at double the price of a beater truck

oh and its an EV so it cant haul anything or go more than 200 miles on an empty bed.

who is actually dumb enough to buy this.

Warning do not click

If you're not a shill, then you're an idiot.
I could find 40+ cars by opening facebook marketplace right now that are half as much or less than this chinkshit truck and will last longer by simply not being an EV.
I bought a Lexus with 25k miles on it for 18k a year ago and itll last me another 15 years easily. (I still own my last 20 year old lexus)

Shhh