/smg/ - Stock Market General

I lost 50% then gained 110%
now i have calls on goog
how fucked am i?
or am i rich?

psychology of money - morgan housel

i dont know tho i dont read crap books

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These are 3x leveraged tickers not meant to be held more than a few days, sell on a Green Day (especially at the end of a week where indexes go up 7%) and rebuy on red days, rinse and repeat. Decay is built in to these and it’s not worth holding / DCA when you can swing trade them more efficiently. When they move against you cut your losses quick because a -3% day is really -9% with these and creates a hole too big to dig out of

Are you talking about reminiscences of a stock operator by edwin leferve? Its a fun book .

from 1.035m on april 2 to 982k on april 25

can't believe these government stunts costed me 53 thousand dollars so far
pump it back government

That's it, that's the one thank you! Was looking for something non technical to read, I'm honestly not even at the point where technicals would helpful, what I need to to not panic and not fomo and not make emotional decisions while trading. This shit is a lot harder than it looks, honestly...

Building wealth is simple if you have good income . No need to mess with picking stocks just dca into broad fund. If you want to be a degenerate and want some quick gains, thats more difficult to do .

whole market pumping and dumping weekly

still too afraid i'll get in on a dump and it'll stay dumped

China keeps saying they're not talking, is Donald just being a nigger again?

It's gonna go down. Everybody knows it's gonna go down. We just don't know when. Something, somewhere, is gonna bring the market's attention to how bad it is, light the fire and pop the rally and then it's down down down until actual good news is had.

It's a gigantic game of chicken right now.

u r
genetically
a woman
and gay
if u trade
anything besides
NATGAS AND OIL

FAGGOTS
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GAY FAGGOTS
O
T
SUCK MY LIGMA

That too, I've gone in a little bit on some major companies, but I also have that feeling it'll all drop again. My guess would be in another week or two since that seems to be the pattern.

if only the company weren't reporting blockbuster earnings...
also, the Fed seemingly halted their balance sheet runoff, which means whatever they are holding now will continuously be free funds for somebody else.

No one knows who I was on the sharty.

The line has to go down because it just does okay?

Thinking like this is why you'll always be stuck in 4 figure hell.

whats up bros, fuck mods, fuck jannies, fuck email registration

This is what gold miners do on 1x leverage.

Look I'm no permabear, but you have to realize that a huge chunk of our economy is effectively paused by what is practically an embargo against what used to be our biggest trading partner. Nothing's coming in the ports. Nothing's getting stocked in warehouses. Soon nothing will be for sale, online or in store. We're gonna start seeing shortages of shit left and right within the next 1-2 months, including stuff you never even realized was made in China. And then it'll start having ripple effects -- companies shut down because they can't get product to sell, people laid off because there's nothing left to do in their jobs, spending dropping like a rock because there's nothing to buy and people are scared.

If it were business as usual, then sure, line go up. But there's no reason for line to go up in these circumstances.

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DICKS ONLY GROW ON DUDES

don't get too cocky anon. S&P melt-up with USD turning to toilet paper is still a possiblity. Ch*na hasn't sold all their bonds yet.

Look I'm no permabear

Proceeds to write thousands of seething wumao nonsense

Thanks Chang very cool.

I missed foreigners trying to psyop me like you wouldn't believe bros

But there's no reason for line to go up in these circumstances.

what about circumstances when there are more buyers than sellers of the stocks and sellers can ask higher prices, and buyers have no choice but to bid higher? under those circumstances line goes up

Ok mr retard bear this must be the 100th stock market crash you've predicted in the past 2 years

pointing out we have the bull by the horns is wumao

NGMI

with that said. I think underestimates how much isn't already made outside of poohbearland. literally everyone expected a USA-Ch*na tradewar, it's USA vs world that caught buisinesses off guard.

Read about the thing legends are made of

the market are unironically in full denial mode and consistently pumping on his lies, I can't say I'm shocked he keeps doing it
felt fun having a little weeklong vacation from this shithole

week? I haven't posted since they made you register

They dropped mandatory registration pretty quickly. You'd have to wait 15 minutes any time you got a new cookie, but you could skip registration and it was only a one time wait.

SLURRRPPPP SISTAS
how we hodling??

I slurped some NVDA at $93. Analysts put its target at $180-220 and I'm pretty happy with that, and I think it's realistic since they're the only chip maker in the game that has gone so hard at both retail GPUs and the AI shit.

bless ya and Godspeed fella

WE are back bros and WAGMI. that fucking reddit site sucks ass. I think I saw ASTS anon over there posting

still too afraid i'll get in on a dump

just invest a little, a very small percent of cash available so no matter what happens its not big deal. Just keep buying is slowly on dips.

It's what I've been doing so far, but sometimes I see some pretty interesting things happen. MVST has been going all over the place lately and surprisingly BBAI has been going back up again (which I don't understand at all considering the investor fraud thing going on).

Q: The U.S. Treasury Secretary has stated that the trade war with China is “unsustainable,” and President Trump indicated he would not adopt a confrontational stance. Will China engage in trade negotiations with the U.S., as Japan and others have done? (MOFCOM Regular Press Conference April 24, 2025)

A: China has taken note of recent media reports. I’d like to emphasize that no trade negotiations are currently underway between China and the U.S., as far as MOFCOM, which is the competent authority overseeing foreign trade and economic relation, is concerned. Any claims about progress in such talks are baseless speculation.

China’s position remains consistent: we are open to consultations and dialogue conducted on the basis of mutual respect and equality. However, pressure, threats, or blackmail are not the right way to engage with China. The trade war was unilaterally provoked by the U.S., and we urge the U.S. to correct its misguided approach. If the U.S. wishes to talk, it must demonstrate good faith, return to the right track of equal-footed dialogue, and jointly promote stable, healthy, and sustainable China-U.S. economic and trade relations.

lmoa

I made $500 daytrading this week
Only 80 more to go

I don't care about any of the stocks I buy, I just buy what I think will go up a certain amount in a certain time and dump it if does. you can make money on a fraudulent stock if you get in and out fast enough, but more likely it will crash before you can get you.>MVST has been going all over the place lately
well this is good if you want to get in and out for some quick gains. If you buy small amounts (for you) on a dip and it dips again you buy a little more the sell the rip. The best thing orange man did was bring vix back

Based slurpsisters

trade war with China is “unsustainable,”

for who? trade wars and real wars can go on longer than anyone expected or wanted. If Gyna has half a brain they will take this opportunity to beat the US now before the US starts a military confrontation with Gyna in a few years.

China has the upper hand in the sense that the US hasn't even felt the real consequences of the trade war. Once supplies start dwindling and ships are no longer coming to deliver new goods/materials that is when the US will start hurting. It will probably take another 20-30 days.

Been swinging options on these up 20% on SOXL glad I sold most yesterday.

They're waiting for jpow to turn on the printers first and then the offload will be real.

That's honestly good advice

All things considered, that's a pretty good plan.

the ships

pretty sure they've already stopped. and the factories and other shit associated with shipping in chyna has wound down. it takes 35d for a shit to reach the west coast and 65 for it to reach the east coast from chyna. even if they settled shit in ten minutes time and everyone was happy and everything started to crank back up again there will be a massive time lag for ships to arrive in the US again. the US consoomer supply chain and everyone employed in it is about to get raped hard, covid era shutdown style.

I should have taken it before I blew 43% of my account.

More likely 60 days, but yeah, it's going to get pretty bad.

I'm all in on dividend aristocrats. Getting about 7-8k quarterly. Didn't even check my account the last few months. Life is good friends.

What are you in for those dividends and how much did you have to go in? An anon was going to recommend some until Anon Babble went down.

the sooner you accept the bottom was April 6th the sooner you'll start making money

total bear death

All it takes is another retarded headline or some other dumbass decision to make it all tumble again.

1MM account, all in VYM, yield 2.8 percent most quarters. Number one holding in the ETF is AVGO.

VYM

Interesting. So what are the risks of a high yield exactly? Some of this has a "too good to be true" feeling about it, which makes me hesitant to really into it. I've been getting some damn good dividends monthly from MSTY but even then I'm uncertain about it.

There is NO fucking reason why we don't have flags on Anon Babble.
Every refugee site had flags on their Anon Babbles.
Anon Babblesmg has flags.

But no, can't have it here.
Wanna know why? Why we can't have flags in biz/smg/?
Because of Indians and Israelis. That's it. I fucking hate it. Its so easy to fix, but we just can't have it because god forbid it exclude the two biggest pieces of shit groups on Earth.

FAGGOTS
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GAYS
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SCHD>VYM

I've been stuck in 6 figure hell for... what feels like my entire life... I used to post here when I was at 15k and going up and, man, in a way I was happier in those days. You know it used to be exciting to see a +$100 gain in a day and equally gut wrenching to see the opposite. Nowadays it swings in the 10ks and it's just like, whatever man.

Sometimes I wonder when I reach millionaire status, if I'll finally FEEL IT. I'm consciously afraid that I won't.

I’m going to be scalping 0dte’s all next week

Damn it’s taking me so fucking long to get back to where I was 3yrs ago.
Banking on BAC and AAPL

Line has gone down. You're too stupid to watch the dollar devalue every stock you owned even if they didn't move at all.

$8 was the generational low anything under 10 is a slurp sell every rally buy every dip

Also this just look at AAPL already bounced from 180 back to nearly 210 and will go to 220 on a good earnings next week. Mag7 and friends including Netflix TSM AVGO are all gonna post banger quarters and bring the Nasdaq back up

How'd you do it anon? Go from 15k to 6 figures?

Got a job, steady contributions, didn't chase meme stocks - I picked wise midcap shit like Evercore and PetIQ while people picked Gamestop and AMC - kept most of it in SPY. Wrote covered calls after big green days and reinvested the gains. I only make like 40k/yr but over the last 4 years I've just lived as a hermit. I only go out once maybe twice a month, roommates for low rent, no debt, and I don't buy a lot of junk/fast food.

I guess it really is that easy it just takes time and dedication like most things.

I'm still scared if I get into the market trump will speak and tank it again.

finally FEEL IT

people who make a lot of money are not doing it for the money, its the "juice" of the activity that makes the money. Money is just a way to measure if what you are doing is working. Its the investing that you like, so get good at investing and the money is secondary

BOGLE
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DCA
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AND NEVER FUCKING LOOK

its the "juice" of the activity

I've heard that before and it does make me feel a little bit better. Investing and researching stocks and reading over financial statements is fun. I just wish I were kinda near or at the finish line though, yaknow?

Yes but that's manageable it's bad but manageable what happens with everything is on fire with no immediate outcome

I'm considering going pretty heavily into some shit like JEPI and MSTY. Any reason I shouldn't? The monthly dividends from MSTY and YieldMax ETFs in general is pretty massive.

buying and holding a leveraged ETF

lmao fucking tard

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I just wish I were kinda near or at the finish line though

death is the only finish line. Due to inflation, taxes, life expenses you need to keep making more to protect what you have. If you have enough you can be more strategic and not have to work as hard, but keeping your money growing, minimizing expenses and paying taxes and expenses is an on going process. My first big win was $20 on AMC, then about $120k on PLTR. I make $5k on QBTS after holding it about two months and was like eh, its only $5k. I keep saving, keep investing and with more money my balance grows faster and for me that is rewarding. Like they say, the first $100k is hardest, but once you make $1m it gets easier. Invest, don't gamble, enjoy it, enjoy life and its hobbies. if you are burned out, or not sure what do in the current market, play it safe and take some time off.

Doit.mp4

How old are you? (ie. how long did it take to get where you are)

You are a dumb nigger learn to read I said slurp the dip sell the rally stay poor and mad badkid

NGMI crew

If you buy and hold a leveraged ETF you will get fucked in the ass eventually since a decrease of 5% (for example) is more significant than an increase of 5%. Here's a good chart showing the decay of them over time

Remember there was a lot of preemptive buying, businesses rushing to get ahead of tariffs. Remember also that valuations depend on all future flows into perpetuity

Can you explain a little?

The Intelligent Investor recommends keeping at least 50% of your networth in stocks regardless of market conditions precisely because of situations like yours.

Also picrel.

This is more complicated than you let on. Where's that article claiming that ~1.5x-2x leverage, depending on the index, historically has maximized returns

leveraged ETFs are calculated daily. that is not the same thing as buy-and-hold with leverage.

its not exactly denial just that big guys are going to take whatever opportunity they can to offload longs, I had puts ITM until he started lying about talking to Chyna

I got my first 100k when I was 23, I'm 26 now. Charlie Munger was right, for what it's worth. I would do everything in my power to get to that first 6 figures again if I had to.
Resetting the leverage daily is kinda what gets you. Even 1x leverage has beta decay. But being able to buy and hold leverage in particular is pretty good as hints at

How we doing bondbros? Just holding TLT and writing calls every day.

Because historically the S&P has been extremely stable and growing. The Japanese stock exchange would benefit the most from something like .5x leverage.
It also multiplies to the upside if you catch multiple green days in a row. But yes, holding long term in turbulent markets is stupid. I've leveraged up on gold but I am probably making bad choices there. Gold miners themselves are taking fat dicks daily as firms take profits on them. The S&P can go up 1%, gold can be green and miners will still be 2-3% red.

WOLF is about to go nuclear. Last chance cunts!

I've considered applying for a job at this company actually. I would never buy their stock though lmfao they're pretty trash, financially speaking.

If you buy and hold a leveraged ETF you will get fucked in the ass eventually since a decrease of 5% (for example) is more significant than an increase of 5%. Here's a good chart showing the decay of them over time

pic rel

damn, them 3x niggas gettin rekt!
really goes to sho, now don't it, that relative trade frictions based on derivatives will always cause underperformance compared to the underlying in the long run

It's one of the most shorted stocks right now. It's going to squeeze hard in May

I've leveraged up on gold

anon what are you doing, Trump is actively doing damage control on the markets to try to neutralize negative coverage of the tariff dump. Not that it's guaranteed to work in the long term but with leverage you won't be there for the long term. If anything I'm thinking about unloading some AEM here myself.

That's a very dishonest example chart and you know it. If confused beginners want to check this for themselves they can compare spy against sso over whatever timeframe and see what happens. SSO can put you at a disadvantage during turbulent kangaroo or relatively flat markets. It pulls way ahead in bull markets such that it's often still well ahead over very long term.

I'm starting to worry, it took me too long to finally start putting some of my money to work. I was up almost 10% on gold but its since falled back quite a bit. I think its not so much the tariffs but people taking profits from gold. The underlying reason for golds bull run still exists with the global economic order diverging from the dollar dominance.

gold
gets taxed
as a collectible
so even moar
of those gainz
will be gone
unless u r
a non AMERICAN
in which case
CONDOLENCES

Had january 2026 calls that I bought when SOXL was 8 but sold them all on Wednesday this week because I thought it would dip down again. Big shit ragrets.

two whole days with no trading

I dont have physical gold, I am one person pumping paper gold.

The underlying reason for golds bull run still exists

gold is money. slow and steady. Best to learn which gold is taxed, how, and when sales/purchases are reported (county specific). Example you slowly buy gold coins (the ones that are not taxed when sold (type and amount), they grow in value over time. When you retire you sell one a month for cash to pay expenses. like a retirement account. easy peasy.

yeah
i am referring
to gold
ETFs

Here is my DD on Jack In The Box-
Their coffee blows, the sell sodas of some type, the food is generally ok, their company seems to be dying, stock is down 58% in a year, they pay a 7% dividend and they are closing under performing locations. Should I go all in?

my DD
on them
is that they
r not
NATGAS AND OIL
and therefore
they
r
GAY
A
YAG IS GAY BACKWARDS

and irrelevant

/smg/ on sharty was a fucking disaster. glad we're back home. I still hate each and every one of you and it warms my heart to know the feeling is mutual. missed you bros

Here is my DD on Jack In The Box-

Their coffee blows, the sell sodas of some type, the food is generally ok, their company seems to be dying, stock is down 58% in a year, they pay a 7% dividend and they are closing under performing locations. Should I go all in?

looking at that chart, no
Don't bet against momentum. Let it recover at least a little bit before you buy in. In other words "dont catch a falling knife"
If you wanna buy it NOW, then you are secretly betting that you have exactly called the bottom of its stock price. Why not wait for it to actually stop falling?

options rules
-30dte mi
-.50-1.00 range within price of stock

good luck fuckheads and remmeber to always underbid the sell price as much as you can

a fucking disaster

*breddy ok enough

Shill me your plays anon

Oh I see the extra rule regarding it. The awesome part though is I will be moving to China.. So my financial status is gonna get real wonky soon. My chinese income will be excluded for US taxes for example.

Tesla puts

its weird
it stopped me
from trading it
i just trade
NATGAS AND OIL
futures
BASED
ETFs

they are taxed 60/40
long/short term
even if u just hold them
for a few minutes

everything else
is GAY
and RETARDED

they

r not

NATGAS AND OIL

I bought Energy Transfer, they have so many requests for gas and connections for gas they cant meet all the demand, and they missed earnings. How do you miss earnings with such high demand, and that was when AI was huge and before Trumps tariff tardations. All those fat lazy fed employees laid off are not going to be driving their cars for summer vacation so gas demand will be down this summer.

at least
they arent
gay tho

WHY IS CHROME FUCKED TO POST HERE

WHY

im 23 and in the same position you were OwO. I exited my broad ETFs and other stock positions a few months ago because of the happenings and went 90% JOBY and 10% cash - but I will need the cash because of life events pretty soon, otherwise I may have went 100%.

Fair market value for SPY at current uncertainty is 530 imro
I have a small short position in case of a sober Monday, but if we're pumping monday we're pumping through earnings week

You need to understand that businesses tried to beat the tariffs and have built-up inventory they could unload, and that shipping from China to US takes 40~50 days depending on the coast. When we see actual price impacts on CPI prints we'll also be close to the end of the 90 days pause on tariffs on other countries
These things don't play out in mere weeks

Right, I/the article was talking about letfs, the correct leverage otherwise would of course be "whatever the bank won't call you on"

To clarify I believe 530 will be what we'll grow from when the dust settles, numbers come out, and it's too late for sudden tariff shifts
The 90 day limit is an overarching influence that depends on how you view Trump/negotiating countries will act as the deadline approaches
I'm basically anything under that number is a buy or call depending on your tastes, and anything over is being optimistic

its not chrome
its having
reddit cookies
in ur browser
get detected
put it in
ur a FAGGOT
mode

All the dumbfuck redditors going

BUT MUH TROOOMP MARKET IRRATIONAL REEEEEEE

The backing off of the tariffs couldn't be more choreographed if they tried.

optimizedportfolio.com/hedgefundie-adventure/

The guy is a redditor but is the only guy i know who actually condenses and takes the boggleheads posts seriously. I say it can be done with dollar-averaging and the right mix of investments. I've been putting 3x S&P500, 2x paper gold and 1x bonds and it has done extremely well in the current times.

ETF that sells covered calls on MSTR and pays out the earned income for the month in distributions between $1.5-$4 depending on MSTR performance that month

I wake up, I look at the overnight and wait a bit till after open, then I buy like $5-10k of either SOXL or SOXS, depending on how I think it looks. I set a stop loss of about $300, and then at the end of the day, if it didn't trigger, I sell for whatever. I didn't win every day, but I've been winning more than I lost. Once I feel more confident, I'll increase the position sizes.
Yeah, I'm missing all of the overnight action, but that's how I got fucked last time...

Tricky thing though is in a real crisis maybe UPRO liquidates. But you knew that already

dca is when i buy a stock at lower than my current holdings average price so that it looks like a smarter buy

Going long on calls since trump wants to be a migger. Looks like China is also backing down on sum of its tariffs

Its fake news, China said they're not talking, Trump is being a nigger

Slurp niggas wya

What are legitimate ways I can make money off the stock market and sites where I can learn to day trade for a living

What are legitimate ways I can make money off the stock market

do the boglehead strategy. it's about as boring and legit as it gets. and beats 90% of all other strategies
but it's not day trading. It's buy and hold, buy the snp500 and save up for 20 years type of shit. very boring, very stable. the opposite of day trading

if you want to do day trading, then learn the momentum style. that's probably the best one that's repeatable, and anyone can do, not relying on sheer luck

Can't wait for another wave of reddit discord spam.

read
go gambling but do it with a condom on. don't be retarded tho, and also have pattern recognition

ok I'm gonna try to sound simple here for you retards
ETFs have high volatility and get eaten up in a crab market due to decay cool
BUT IF YOU HOLD SHARES, YOUR PRINCIPAL INVESTMENT NEVER CHANGES
how is this so fucking hard to understand
you buy SOXL 1000 shares of SOXL at 10, regardless of how much bullshit it goes through you're not losing anything on your principal until you sell
so if hypothetically you wanna buy SOXL now to ride it until the next 60 (which is certain for everyone besides plebbit dickless trannies) you don't have to worry about any of th decay. as long as you're not playing options on these you're good
there's a reason SOXL trannies have outplayed you guys TWICE by buying and holding
not once, TWICE

Stock trading is gambling unless investing.

You could also put your money in MMFs for 4% a year gains.

If you are gambling/trading then rather than daytrading you can take a few hundred bucks and do what I'm doing and putting money into IPOs like Webull (8xed 2 days after IPO) and Circle and Etoro because all these sites trade crypto and will pump like shitcoins.

yeah the site layout fucking sucked in my browser. When I read spam then it has to at least look good

just buy
and sell
NATGAS AND OIL
randomly
if ur main goal
is not being
gay

if you have goals
that are moar
important
than not being
GAY
then do
something else

What’s wrong with being GAY?

How long did you ahve to hold for dividends?

To receive dividends from NVDY, you need to hold the ETF for more than 60 days within the 121-day period that begins 60 days before the ex-dividend date. This means you should have purchased NVDY before the ex-dividend date to be eligible for the upcoming dividend payment.

Not really a slurp.

buy my social bags

No thanks, the last woman who hit on me was a 27yo divorced chick. I don't need those bags.

You mean *a great place since we never got banned for random bullshit* then sure.

say there are two companies that do the exact same shit (make gold) and their output is similar (ounces per year) but their stock price is wildly different (0.50 vs 3.00). Would the fact that the 0.50 company has 6 billion shares on issue and the 3.00 company has only 1.5 billion on issue be the main reason for the difference in price? Assuming the 3.00 has less shares and they are more tightly held so command a higher price and the inverse for the 0.50 company?