Is it just me or is the EU market kinda performing better than expected

The EU is also expanding its free trade agreements with other blocks. EU-Mercosur is currently being finalised after 25 years of negotiations, and it's looking likely that the last holdouts (France and Poland) will finally agree thanks to the US retardation.

EU is going to get a shitload of cheap Chinese goods - no, more than normal - because of manufacturers redirecting shipments from Trumpland to Europe. It's bad for them but not as catastrophic as it is for the US

Basically the US saw Brexit and went "Yes, but what if even more and for the entire planet?". That's the mindset you should be thinking about - the US has fucked itself over harder than they've fucked everyone else over.

Brexit was the correct decision

Nah it is still fucking shit

First the stock market is less representative of the overall economy than the US. Think much less capital markets and much more bank finance.

When you had negative interest rates during 2010s there was no point in trying to IPO so no one really did it. So you have a lack of assets to put capital into.

And there seems to be a rotation out of US assets judging by EUR/USD The private sector savings like pension funds are heavily overweight US stocks and bonds and all this uncertainty is causing some capital repatriation. Which might and probably will turn into a real waterfall.

It means EU gets deflation from cheaper Asian goods.

If you were a vulture capitalist who shorted the UK all the way down and then bought at the bottom - yes. If you are anyone else - no.

EU is going to get a shitload of cheap Chinese goods

Absolutely not. There will be huge EU trade barriers going up against China. No dumping allowed. But this will take some months.

Nah. Europe is going to pivot hard towards China and "you're a new number one market" is China's price. EU will focus even harder on bespoke, boutique products and armament manufacture.

Ursula will announce retaliatory tariffs against America this week.

eu regulations save the day, good thing the dead weight(uk) acked themselves

America has forced other economies to become closer to prevent further fallout. This is why Trump's plan will fail

Just because something doesn't work, doesn't mean it wasn't the right strategy

Expect a few test feelers thrown out by Sir Keith about the UK joining the EEA (not the EU) over the next few weeks.

I won't be surprised if the whole shitshow in Ukraine ends and Russia is fast tracked back into the system for that juicy cheap energy, all the "assurances" of overpriced American LNG are gone now

It's pretty much the definition of the wrong strategy. Glorious last stands or valiant but doomed charges are for fiction.

Unironically, why didn't they just do that from the begininining

the euros arent gonna cuck us, fucking kneel

It's obvious you can't trust any anglo country. It was a good thing to get rid of the UK. The Irish are okay, I guess. Kinda cucked they got rid of their own language though

Not likely, it is more likely that Canada diverts their oil and gas towards the EU.

No, that's fallacious consequential reasoning. It's a probability problem with limited information. If you have a good hand in poker, you should bet, and that was the right strategy even if you lose to some unlucky bs

Most EU stocks only bounced after SPY and NQ futures bounced 4%

dead cat bounce

Boomers basically just seethe at any mention of Europe in any capacity. They think the EEA is the same as being part of the EU. Our right are massive Americaphiles to the point that they're actually willing to basically throw our own industry under the bus for a US trade deal, even though the trade deals are usually awful and massively lopsided in Americas benefit. Brexit boomers don't understand anything about trade so they won't care unless it finally forces the government to cut their triple locked pensions and take away their free bus passes.

If the EU leaders agree on a retarded tariff we will also experience the same dump as America.
Who knows

Political stupidity(or calculated malice aimed to destroy the UK economy) from the Brexit Brigade. Brexit was an interesting exersize of the UK putting trade barriers with their biggest market on a whim. In a way what Trump is doing right now is a kind of ''Brexit'' but with the whole world.

There will be huge EU trade barriers going up against China.

Absolute nonsense. EU do not do blanket tariffs. IF we feel the need to boost a particular industry, something will be targeted with an increased tariff and something else will be reduced.

Canada and Azerbaijan can only get you so far, it's not enough.

the hand is westminster. in no way did leaving the e.u. make sense, and anyone could see from a mile off it would mean being flooded the third world, as many said during the campaign

The EU thinks before they act. When they announce tarrifs i expect them to announce them side by side with new trade agreements with Canada, Japan and Australia. Maybe even the UK. Also the EU does not do blanket tarrifs, they always target specific things. If you are smart you should pull out of anything that is Repiblican related or in a Red state.

i'm tired of shitting on the EU. i'm european. i want us to do well. fuck the US fuck china fuck russia. ursula lead us to prosperity.

also canada is invited to join

It will be enough once Germany re-enters into the nuclear energy market.

You can't trust Russia to even tell you the day of the week; closer trading with them as a state would be pure insanity. Refocusing on Canada is far more likely.

even if that happened it would take decades and by that point it's completely irrelevant. renewable energies are libshit coded in here but actually the way to go. i don't want to import any energy from outside the EU, no oil no gas no uranium.

It’ll be interesting to see what kind of companies will pop up now in my country as it will get more investor money.

The advantage of solar is that it is incredibly quick to set up, China will be eating that pie again

Didn't EU memeber central banks pre-emptively cut interest rates?

Thank god for EU regulations

it would take decades

Not really. The reactors are still there, the fuel is still in storage. They just need to restart the reactors, reconnect the plants to the grid and rehire the crew that maintains the plants. Not only that but France has the biggest nuclear recycling instalation in Europe so the fuel can be reused. People should do their research.

don't care as long as we harvest the energy cheap as fuck and build up ways to store it.

where are you from brother

Never said it's a bad thing, Chinese firms have brought down the cost of PV by orders of magnitude since the 2010s.

renewables don't work artard. You think the wind is going to power everything? You think Germany has enough sun? No. It's either nuclear, dirty coal (Germany doesn't have clean coal like the USA), or Putin's oil. Pick one.

Heck yeah

People should do their research.

they already started dismantling german reactors and they've already reached irreversible levels. the permits are not valid anymore. they would have to rebuild them entirely and that's just not feasible economically, look at flamanville, consuming more energy than it costs at insane building costs and heavily subsidized by the french state. i'm not new to this. i've been inside philippsburg while it was still active. standing at the basin looking down at the graphite structure surrounding the fuel rods in eerie blue liquid while my geiger counter went tick tick tick is something i won't ever forget.

babby level stale pol flavored memes not rooted in reality

i'm so fucking ready you won't believe the level of ready i am

renewables don't work artard

This is incorrect, most electricity consumption follows a very predictable schedule, you don't need huge base load capacity or storage

Western mongolia

imagine the total collapse of russia and taking it, all those resources.

the northern hemisphere union

Western Mongolia

That's not Kalmykia

i hope i'll be moved to the karelia front so we can put holes in russians together my brother from a frigid mother

It's everywhere in the news retard.

unleash the eurobeast

imagine

You'd have to do that a lot, yes

How nostalgic

Mutts' arrogance has made me love Europe :). I can't stand Americans now. Canadians are okay.

it's not like russia ever collapses or has random warlords driving on moscow, that's really hard to imagine!

Desu all anti EU posting is vatnigger and mutt seething, anyone who understands anything about basic economy knows how useful EU is

I would enlist into its' military no questions asked

brussels regulation is the best kept secret among global superpowers

The parts are in storage due to radioactivity. You do your research. Germany can get nuclear energy a lot faster than you think. They just need the political will behind this.

Reality isn't a 4X game, if you want access to resources, open relations and trade is the way.

ever collapsed

Last time 20 countries believed so when they "intervened" yet they persevered, and my country was fucked after being pressured to participate. Muh US/China/Russia collapse HOI4 map memes are stale.

This time we will take Moscow

I don't know what the fuck a x4 game or HOI4 map meme is, but it's obvious you're a retard who is talking from that level of understanding, as somehow you're not aware that Russia is the most notoriously unstable power around and has collapsed twice just in the last century. you stink of being a poorfag little tourist screwup, kys.

Please explain this to the people who are going to invade Canada and Greenland within four years.

Crash eu you dumb FUCKHEADS

That's not very nice.
You could argue strategic depth or force projection for these two instead of resource access, but negotiating expanded access for the American military diplomatically (who already have based there and both Canada and Denmark are integrated into NATO) would have been much easier, so I don't know what the thought process was there.

So useful that the two best countries in Europe (Switzerland and Norway) refuse to join

Greenland is literally for resource extraction. Denmark doesn't have the industry to profit from extracting minerals underneath ice sheets and ruining the environment because 90% of the money would go to foreign extraction companies so they're fine to just sit on it forever letting it accumulate value until that ice melts eventually to climate change. Some of the people surrounding Trump like Musk want to take Greenland essentially to "cut red tape" and give US companies permission to start raping the land immediately damn the consequences. Obviously alienating the entire world isn't a good trade for getting resources now you'd get later anyways but these are the most short sighted line go up motherfuckers

We can replace American consumers with military spending for a while.

They never learn lmao.

norway still pay up to be part of the eea, and both got mogged by ireland and luxembourg

Obviously alienating the entire world isn't a good trade

Putting a suit and tie on and speaking flowery language as you seethe internally doesnt mean we have the same goals. Im sorry.

post portfolio

hay guiz that's lyk totally not nice

how much of a neckbeard geeky fuckwit tedious simpleton are you? do you have pokemon and magic cards too?

russia is super srs guiz

akshually i know all about how russia is not like x4 game map meme as one may commonly think

geniunely kys.
Russia is a fake power that in the current lifetime has gone through total collapse, the russian army attacking the government with tanks firing on parliament, and a renegade mercenary leader invading Russia. There is no country in the world that it is easier to imagine collapsing than Russia. If there's one country in the world that you'd predict to collapse in our lifetimes it would be Russia.

Lets cut to the chase and YOU post a screenshot of your tradingview. You can either read a market or you're retarded (probably retarded).

EU will avoid the coming global economic collapse by siphoning off money from Apple and Google and Amazon

no reply

RHM chads stay winning yup

i should have bought the dip...

ursula lead us to prosperity.

Ursula is leading us to war with Russia and the USA. 100 million European men die so she can import 100 million African men and her fantasies come true. (BBC carnage)

Da da, Ivan.

Why? The EU is stable and reliable. I'd rather crash the USA. We don't need loons shitting up the global markets. Make the EU stronger = stability.

let's wall ourselves off from anyone who produces anything

You're gonna eat that Nokia, Sven?

you people are utterly retarded, we basically have an EEA-like agreement because of the EU-UK free trade agreement but EEA would be incompatible with all of the other agreements that the UK has signed like the CPTPP and we're not going back now

It's for this reason EU will become the economic giant of tomorrow. It's THE place to invest money and gigafunds into when every other place is authoritarian or ruled by demented libtard/rightoid retards.

the EU is deliberately deindustrialising for no actual reason and choking all of its industry in the crib with insane regulations

europe needs a domestic tech sector

btw you're not actually allowed to do anything because of...le safety

That's not even remotely true, why do you even bother typing this shit lmao
EU is in a very good place for both manufacturing and service industries, and will be even better in the future in both fronts.

thank you for your vibe based narrative driven analysis, very valuable and interesting

every other place is authoritarian or ruled by demented libtard/rightoid retards

Is this ironic or do you actually think EU isn't authoritarian and ruled by a demented libtard clique

it bounced back

I AM SAVED

let's wall out all resources and Asian industrial capacity

includes Israel

Neoliberal tripe

The problem is that the EU simply has a long way to go because good luck having the state members come together, the war in Ukraine showed this and while it did wake up, it woke up way too fucking late. And it still has its fair amount of retarded legislation they try to pass (Chat Control rebranded to ProtectEU for example) because they are still politicians at the end of the day. It sucks.

money is attracted to stability and rules based societies since forever
no, your sigma male alpha republikek (closeted homo) lifestyle doesn't vibe the economy into greatness lol

stability and rules based societies

and that's what the EU is

But the issue is that euros arent such consoomers, they don't want cheap chunk garbage

Coal liquefaction

That's the only wrong thing with the EU - retarded liberal clique having too much power and introducing silly regulations, like the bottlecap insanity. But, slowly but surely we see an increasing amounts of support and politicians who are both Pro-EU, yet want (or claim to) protect their countries from pajeet and other soulless scum from flowing into our lands. All EU needs is a change of leadership towards people respectful of their countries history, lands and wellbeing - only by doing so, EU will become greater. No visa for third world, student or work. Current ones given a month to leave, otherwise deport them.

they also have horrible demographic bases. basically they had a very small millenial generation, which is the generation doing all the consuming

ursula lead us to prosperity

you are part of the problem and will be hanged desu

yes, sneed?
The real interesting thing about consooming is that Europeans like to just sit their 300k€ money on their bank accounts with 2% interest rates. They don't have a tendency to invest into stocks or in general to spend it as much as Americans. It would be insane if suddenly everyone went full on investing into stocks, as in stocks would rocket so much the eventual correction would be really painful

All EU needs is a change of leadership towards people respectful of their countries history, lands and wellbeing - only by doing so, EU will become greater. No visa for third world, student or work. Current ones given a month to leave, otherwise deport them.

you too will eventually have to undrink the koolaid. this fasho brainrot is what got the US cooked for good and the EU will be next.

cute

fasho

being a patriot who doesn't wish ill upon others, just wants to live and work in his own country, surrounded by his own people is now fascist

Boy, you're too young and probably live in some fucked part of USA filled with peoples ideally you wouldn't want to be around.
I don't want that either.

But, slowly but surely we see an increasing amounts of support and politicians who are both Pro-EU, yet want (or claim to) protect their countries from pajeet and other soulless scum from flowing into our lands

the new euro trend seems to be banning oppositional elements (which always works out well and never results in any blowback)

nobody likes browns and the entire experiment is a disaster anywhere it's been tried
europe can still have its nice social welfare nets and economic regulation and le democratic institutions and whatever the fuck but the browns need to go
the switch has already flipped for even 'moderate' euro politicians at this point

Brexit

You mean that thing that got the UK a tariff-free trade deal with the EU AND the rest of the world rather than idiotic EU protectionism and which has now allowed the UK to avoid the tariffs faced by the EU from the US?
Lol
this; Brexit is the smartest political decision in decades - FORCED by the people upon politicians trying to ensure more decline.

We're still in the honeymoon phase where nobody seriously believes this is going to go on long enough to cause real and lasting damage. Most companies have enough spare liquidity to absorb the tariffs for a few weeks at least without any major operating changes so everyone just assumes this is a blip on the radar that will be reversed before there's real damage.

If they're wrong, then you will start to see stock market ugliness. But right now Trump is just an attention whore standing on the edge of the bridge swearing he's gonna jump for real this time.