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AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

My president.

puts are too expensive
calls are to expensive
I missed out so much free money

total market death

Sell me this pen.

Second toilet paper crisis is secretly brewing. you were warned. Screencap this post.

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Second toilet paper crisis is secretly brewing

What, did you eat some bad chinese takeout?

They already know. I sold them out in a different thread.

When options are expensive, you're supposed to sell them and collect the inflated premium.

so short call spread?

I just went there and its full of literal furfags and other degenerate faggots

No I won't, you don't deserve this pen.

go back to your containment touristnig

yeah, and then get raped by upside
these couple of days are too volatile, normally what you said would work

she needs to do that on my dick
also nothing to fix

People are saying to buy the dip, but is that even a good idea? There’s a good chance that our trade relationships are impaired for the foreseeable future. This isn’t like some normal market correction.

Good. You can keep it.

India won't retaliate, seeks negotiations

Taiwan won't retaliate, seeks negotiations

Indonesia won't retaliate, seeks negotiations

The copium I needed to hear today.

buy the global dip
I only buy VWCE and never sell

thanks bro
*leaves with your pen*

Not yet, retards are coping that Europe will "bend the knee" but here's the thing: Europe's knees literally can't bend, they can't remove VAT just because Donny wants them to because it would fuck the EU's core financial system. To get concessions like this usually you need to win a war against a country or a bunch of them.

So the tariffs will stand because the orange nigger certainly wont backtrack and lose face, the market is fucked.

Bye bro.
*sells the pen-generated tracking data to your wife*

If you are sure markets are going to continue tanking, yes. But if there's an unexpected uptick in the markets you're going to get raped. Same with a put spread if you think markets are oversold but it continues to tank
Collecting premiums right now is extremely profitable, but carries a lot of risk because no one can tell whats going to happen.

To get concessions like this usually you need to win a war against a country or a bunch of them.

So the solution for Trump is start supplying Russia and split Europe like in the end of WW2.

Biden blew up Nordstream to cripple Germany and the EU kneeled. They put on a good show of "opposition" and "retaliation" to get reelected, but at the end of the day they are vassal states of the US.

you already know what im going to say

BLACK MONDAY

Tariffs are a bad thing so negotiating or retaliating is a bad thing.
According to economists as least

ok but he should unironically not recover the market until at least the end of the year
maybe until the midterms
just keep it stable at 500

HOLY SHIT
CRAMER IS BEARISH ON TARIFF MARKETS
HE SPILLED HIS GUTS ON CNN
BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY WE'RE GETTING RICH

$6 billion in cash

2024 fiscal year ended with $141 million FCF

CEO earns no salary or bonus, while buying 500k shares this week as vote of confidence on the future

Swaps opened when GME was $2 are still being rolled, hence the price going from $10 to $80 on no news in May 2024

Core business streamlined to the point where US stores are profitable, eventually will close stores in rest of the world to give net profit from core business

Main priority is to maximize shareholder value, including through potential investment and/or acquisition opportunities

Tariffs are a bad thing

Protectionism is actually based anon. The real problem is, it takes DECADES to prepare for it, by stimulating national industry and ensuring stable growth of internal consumer base.
Orange retard is trying to do in 4 years what China tried to do in 40, and China is still behind on several crucial things. All without willing workforce to work on factories and all while the main producer of factory equipment - EU, is now taxed by tariffs.
This is why every economist right now is screaming in horror.

LIBTARDS poverty is actually based AND RED PILLED that's why republican states are always the poorest and least literate ok MAGA

gmetards are still alive

buying a handful of gme calls at open, kek

/ >it's real.. what the fuck are they smoking in brussels?
They're all sadists who hate the natives.
In the case of Germany the problem runs even deeper. Way deeper.
There is nothing a German despises more than his own kin.
This must also be prevalent in other native European societies as most (if not all) of them seem hell bent on self destruction.

When it comes to capital gains within Germany, it is a weird ying and yang situation. On the one side there is this "unrealized capital gains tax" lunacy ("Vorabpauschale") and the (now thankfully scrapped) "Verlustverrechnung" which limited losses on futures and options to be deducted from potential gains only up to like €20k per year (had gains of €50k? had losses of €40k?; WELL TOO BAD MOTHERFUCKER, YOU'LL BE PAYING CAPITAL GAINS ON A FULL €30k OF HYPOTHETICAL GAINS NO MATTER IF YOU HOLD THEM IN THE END OR NOT)...
Then there is the other side which sees Germany having a (comparatively) very low blanket tax on capital gains at 25%, no more questions asked.

I can fix her.

Also Europe can simply kill all the manufacturing companies just because burgers are throwing a tantrum

I have $50k in cash I’m too scared to do anything with. I’ve kept my job for 15 years through all the ups and downs so I don’t think I’ll lose it and I own a house (with a mortgage). What do I do?

Ukraine blew up Nordstream and it was a genius move. 90% of EU applauded. No more sucking on the low price oxycodone poisoned teat of Russian energy.

/smg/ headline

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and I own a house (with a mortgage).

why do you have 50k in cash? either put it in a money market fund or buy a world index

I hate when people say they own a home but have a mortgage. Doesn’t count
Because scared of crashes like this and it is earning 4.5% interest

it does count, because they do own the home, they just have a lien placed against it for the remaining value of the mortgage
a 100% equity home is horribly inefficient from a ROI perspective

Ukraine blew up Nordstream

You must be 18 to post on this board.

The self fulfilling prophecy Jim Cramer is saying it will be Black Monday so the inverse will happen

EU preparing tariff proposal against the US and Trump has been unusually quiet after saying he will not make any changes on Friday

I'm a retard when it comes to this, but I need a brokerage thing so I can buy SGOV
What platform do I use?

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armpits = yummy

how long until amerifats start a civil war

How do americans feel about witnessing the greatest leader they ever had?
Like a modern day french witnessing napoleon

efforts to calm the markets

kek

Even if the EU doesn't do anything, and Trump passes that as a victory, nothing really changes for the EU anyway. The one that will pay their shit +30% overnight are Americans, anyway. With the inflation that comes with it. Post-covid inflation on steroids.
EU could do nothing and it doesn't change that America shot both its legs. EU shooting the arm doesn't change anything at this point, especially as China already shot the other arm.
Only a complete removal of tariffs can save anything. If there's anything left to save, that is.

How does shit like NVDL work when it nvda goes too low? Does it just get liquidated?

if you bought into SP500 when halo 3 came out and sold the last top you would have made a 4x on your money

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I'M THROATING EVERY SOXL BAGGOT IN THE THREAD

why do retards insist on holding 3x leveraged indexes? those regularly return less for a buy and hold strategy than 1x, 2x or 1.5-75 would be more optimal and avoid liquidation

You would've made the same 4x if you got into SP500 during reagan's last year and sold when halo 3 came out

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I made x2.5 times my money this year buying and selling x3 leveraged indexes, but its time consuming.

yeah, which is why it's not for buy and hold
I use margin myself 1.25x and DCA when the market is neutral to bullish, just purchase a bit more than what I deposit each month

Women owe me sex.

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But it into whatever the Chinese equivalent of VOO is. China is the new USA.

My budget is too tight to DCA and I'm not confident in buying and holding anything, even less in the current market, and that buying and holding will outperform a well managed porfolio of x3 leveraged indexes.
That's just me though and I agree buying and holding shit like SOXL is retarded. I'm sticking with what has worked for me though, it's just not a strategy for everyone.

/smg/ - Tranime Armpit Fetish Edition

Post Anon Babble related OPs or fuck off faggots and stay there

erm, industrial re-awakening solving the deficit tax cut funding bros?

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everything is 4x as expensive now

wow, what a huge victory

Who else here /itallkeepstumblingdown/?

Your buying power has been almost halved in that time period.

dumb 1pbtinigger

kek baggies

Oh yea, 50 countries including the very critical Cambodia, Laos, Palaos and Penguin island. Surely they will list each of these 50 countries.

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Are they wrong though?

50 quadrillion countries contacted Trump!!

Zimbabwe to suspend tariffs on US imports

Yeah I think we're back

yes, everything is not 4x as expensive
numbers have meaning

I keep listening to my gut, but my gut has never been right. My gut keeps telling me to DCA. That means I should pull out.

my gut

Post Anon Babble related OPs or fuck off faggots and stay there

Kys retard

pulling out after the drop

based retail

fucking banger of a game, that

My gut keeps telling me to DCA

then do it. what you need is a sizeable rainy day fund so shit like this in the market doesn't rattle you

Average annual inflation past 50 years: ~3%

average S&P500 annual return rate: ~10%

Fucking moron

Are you sure?

I don't know the difference between stockmarket return rates and inflation rates

noooooo, but le suped duper hidden ultra truflation is actually 82198365% you dumb idiot!

sorry man i realized it right after posting
day drinkings got the better of my judgement lol

Alright that's it, I think I'm gonna liquidating everything. Been DCAing ~1k a week into 'safe' etfs like SCHD and VOO since right after the covid crash, but all I see coming is more red. I can't take it. I have minimal gains left overall so I'm out with those. Should have sold Thursday but I was coping. Down 20k (220k - 200k) from ath, hopefully my Monday morning orders go through before another crash
Although when I say it like that it doesn't sound that bad honestly. Idk what to do bros, babbys first real market crash

Asking for a friend, should they buy Xtrackers S&P500 Inv Day Swap Ucits Etf on monday at market open, i have no idea what that means btw

"After decades of bad behavior you can't just wipe the slate clean."

Are these people out of their minds? Do they actually believe this shit?
lol
Are these people out of their fucking minds?

BREAKING: Bloomberg reports that as of Sunday morning, Treasury Secretary Bessent gave "no indication" that President Trump is "willing to back down on new tariffs."

BUCKLE UP BOYS

I also had a dream last night that the S&P went to 300 lmao

yea thats what I thought, "negotiations" my ass

7 hours until the end

best you could do,we are getting governed by retards and im fulling expecting to market to drop down at least to pre-covid levels.

Wednesday Night

was listening to Troomp's speech

had Trading 212 open on phone

went short on Nasdaq CFD the moment I realized what that retarded table was

trailing stop activated 2 days later with $4000 of profit

How the fuck is it so easy to make money with this shit? Why doesn't everyone do it?

if we hit the first circuit breaker tomorrow I'll cum

because normally the market is much more stable and nobody does such gigantic changes on the economy

Yeah I'm worried I'll miss out on the rebound but I don't see that coming before we drop more

So we are obviously getting level 1 circuit breaker tomorrow, but do you think we'll hit level 2 or level 3?

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Well here's hoping for more events like this.

Cute dog

Thought it was priced in. Also you caught maybe the 2nd steepest decline in a decade and only made $4000.

I don't gamble but I sold all my SPY leading up to Liberation Day, I would've lost $4000 (of value, I wouldn't have sold) by now if I'd stayed in. Now I can sit pretty with my popcorn at 1% market exposure and try to time or DCA into the bottom. Was talking to Claude about this and he agrees with my current strategy.

BREAKING: Commerce Sectary Howard Lutnick says tariffs are coming on April 9th, crushing hopes of a tariff delay before the 6 PM ET futures open, per a CBS News interview.

I DID say to buckle up, boys

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Shit... I have some trance CDs en-route from Europe right now
Guess I'm getting charged

you made this up didn't you

Imagine we hit -24% in pre-market and level 3 pops at 9:30 on the dot.

Yeah I wish I'd moved more money into my CFD account for this. I had about $5000 I was planning to buy ETFs with (I don't trade at all). But still, better than nothing.

Anon...

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does anyone here know what time do I need to get up to watch the market opening if I live in Australia?
I don't have work tomorrow and I want to see this happen live

-100% on monday

maybe we will see the indices go negative

lol.. lmao... my portfolio is not going to like this

want to place a put on spy

one random wick up will financially ruin me

would be cool to experience a proper crash where everyone is completely wiped out with no chance of recovery in a lifetime

Depends on how hard big tech is getting fucked by EU

Musk wants the tariffs off

Trump wants to keep them on

How is the market going to react to what's shaping to be an internal crisis in the government?

monday is a guaranteed -6000% bro, just do it

eggs arent 4x as expensive now

Why are you lying?

Should I sell my chinkstocks? I was up 50% in a year on my China ETF and 100% on BABA before this recent dump. Now it's 30% and 60%. I'm still bullish on China long term, but this shit is unnerving.

Leave tranny. Your kind isn't welcome here.

OK so google tells me the NYSE opens at 9:30AM ET Monday which is 11:30PM AEST Sunday which was like three hours ago but I'm still seeing people talk about a market opening at 9:30 like its in the future what am I missing here?

You are the one in the future ausbro

bloodier monday incoming

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wait nevermind I figured it out, I'll see you guys at this time tomorrow

wait for news

no good news

just more bad news

uvix and sqqq looking increasingly attractive

-42000% on open

Hmmm I wonder if shorting Nasdaq futures on open will work again.

Buy ATOS

I will say a prayer for all the baggies who didn't sell last week.

thanks mate. not selling regardless. desu the market was too good for too long

market goes up until mid day until monday puts close thinking it's a rally

instantly dumps afterwards

Predictions when premarket opens?

Apparently major banks are margin calling several hedge funds tomorrow.

any reliable data from asia prefutures yet?

When was the last time this happened?

I've been bearish for long, but the apocalypse happens and I don't have any puts... In any case, everything I've seen this weekend seems to indicate that we're still got a way to go. Feeling pretty confident we are getting a recession and that hasn't been priced in.

this? never. a dump of similar intensity? covid crash 2020

I-i am in it for the long run, the market will eventually reward my patience

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1929. 2008 was just finance bro being too greedy and retarded, this time the real economy is going to get hammered because orange retard thinks mercantilism is the way forward

Pretty much 1929

At this point just close the market. At least Ill get to look at a high number when I check the folio

having sold all of my positions a month ago I feel like a financial genius because now I can just wait for the crash to pick up good companies for cheap.

no, they need to keep the market open 24/7 so it can keep falling

But it recovered, so I'm holding

Cash in on UVIX Monday, wait for the dead cat bounce Tuesday/Wednesday, then SQQQ for the rest of the month?

imagine the 550 2042 puts

I could have stayed in as long as you and profited, but after the v-shaped recovery during Covid I just had enough of the fake and gay market
I hope this resets whatever fuckery has been going on

got to admit meltdowns like this do make me a bit nervous. been in the market for ~15 years. what makes me truly schizo is the prospect of losing my job amidst a global recession

The whole point of a dead cat bounce is to shakeout as many as possible. Trying to time it is difficult and not worth the squeeze. Its obvious now the trend will be going down. Might be smart to just go SQQQ on open and ignore the inevitable bounce.

Maybe we are going to see a short squeeze on Monday

Red futures

Bounce higher than expected after morning

Bears close positions

Crash in the afternoon

I think I’m getting laid off tomorrow

it recovered

it did, and probably will this time too, but when and how, who the fuck knows. could take years. I'm holding too.

SQQQ

Yup. Good choice

Most of layoffs haven't even started yet. Employment is usually the last domino to fall.

Tomorrow nothingburger, bounce mid week, Black Thursday?

fuck, that sucks

When are Yuros gonna announce Tariffs?

Only cool guys buy this pen. You want to be a cool guy, right?

AI

Do they even have the balls to do it? Especially now that America is openly joking about how we blew up the Nordstream pipeline.

Why do they need tariffs?

manufacturing jobs

Just give them different jobs, or just say fuck it and pay UBI.

I'll just do nvidia puts....

I don't want to work in a factory

They don't even need to, America shot both its own legs. Shooting the arm won't change anything at this point, especially as China already shot the other arm.

I have no clue what exactly the vision is here. You have Trump, Elon, and etc going "have more kids have more kids have more kids". Then when asked about manufacturing in America and how it will make things more expensive "oh these jobs will be done by robots. also email jobs will be done by AI. entire swaths of the economy will be all automated". If we are going to automate the entire economy then why do we need more kids? If we aren't going to implement UBI why are we trying to automate the entire economy from factory worker to doctor?

5.5 hours until futures

The good news is that manufacturing is never coming back anyway so this entire ordeal is fucking pointless suffering

The best part will be when literally-who small countries capitulate like Vietnam, Madagascar, Penguins empire, whatever, capitulate.
Making sure the triple retard at the helm of the White House will keep pursuing his shit as if it's a validation of his "strategy" and not back down. This will be the very signal shit will get really, really ugly for years, especially as China won't back down.

The funniest thing to me is that Chinese want to fight to essentially continue to be a factory/sweatshop for American consumers.

BTC is doing fine so market will be fine tomorrow.

nobody cares about your shitcoin cryptotard

the Chinese

you mean Xi
he doesn't give a fuck about people jumping out of windows

True...
But I wonder, why don't they want to turn their own society into consumer one. I guess maybe it would be harder to control for the Communist party.

they literally are trying to do that
you can't change the economy in 4 years however, it takes time

It was holding steady during the week too and look what markets did.

Vietnam is a tremendously bigger player than those other countries. But you have a valid point.

EU just announced retaliatory tariffs
Source: Reuters

How are they feeling right now?

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muh reddit UBI

capitalism makes everything cheaper its the kike debt and central bank money printing that causes inflation

i'm disappointed in myself. after being teased with a crash for years, i simply couldn't believe that it was finally time for a massive dump this week and kept closing positions on the way down.
i did okay, but if i had taken aggressive positions at the start of last week like the ones that lost me a lot of money over the past few years i'd almost be a millionare by now.

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what can i buy and hold to make some money on this longer term like over the next few years

It's just the shit for the steel thing last month. basically nothing. It takes at least a month for the EU to do something. Retaliation for the shit pulled out on "Liberation Day" won't be announced until late April. At best.

Do you like hedge funds /smg/, would you put your money in one?
I'm tired of paying, but I'm not good enough to hedge with puts and calls.

all according to keikaku

an REIT for multi-housing complexes like ESS. just hold for dividends and have it slowly go up as more people have to move into apartments

If it does crash, better to hold cash or fixed income for now, in my opinion. Or you could play the shorting game but then you're literally gambling so have fun with that. Then when the bottom comes in, dump into index funds.

t. conservative don't-lose-money investor

indifference

Tel Aviv stock exchange closed today (Sunday) down 4%.

You found a way to work your TDS back into it bravo retard

I don't want to wake up on monday...

bullish

lmao Swisscucks agreed to be ass-gaped with 32% without saying anything

Checked textbook case of markets staying irrational longer than (You) can stay solvent

Rolexes are now 32% more expensive in the US?

SUNDAY: Tel Aviv closed with a 4% drop and Saudi Arabia's closed with a 7% drop

Holy fuck

12% futures drop incoming

You should have bought the pen, it didn't have to come to this, but here we are

Tel Aviv closed with a 4% drop and Saudi Arabia's closed with a 7% drop

Everything is fine, nothing to worry about, no decline in markets caused by the Americans, be sure to go shopping today and especially Monday.

You guys ready?

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huh the Black Swan was called Donald. who would've thought

Something I've noticed:

Most of the developing world is dependant on commodity exports and basic manufacturing as their main sources of revenue instead of taxes

But now budget need to be cut to the bone where crises already existed in day-to-day budgets thanks to the US axing foreign aid

And the IMF is now overburdened while other developed countries have also drastically scaled back their own foreign aid

Huge swathes of the planet are about to fall apart. How do I profit from this? I'm thinking companies with contracts for deterring/processing migrants and private security for mining/oil companies operating in unstable areas (e.g. Nigerian oil).

It's more like everyone now needs to work out what specifically they can tariff from the US while minimising the blowback from said tariffs. China can get away with doing it from the start because it has its own orbit and has long planned for a US embargo from the US but other countries need to work out what specifically they want to tariff where alternatives exist - the EU chose motorcycles the last time around because it's such an easy punching bag.

The EU has best spelled it out that they will respond on a timeframe of weeks and months. So we'll have a week or so of negotiations and people trying to work out wtf he's thinking and then the pressure will start to rise after analysts do their work.

Israeli and Saudi stock exchanges are open on Sundays?

Yes

Trading hours Sunday to Thursday

oil declines 8% on Friday

Saudi Ex declines 7% on Sunday

Good catch, Anon.

isnt that against their religion or whatever? rest on sunday yadayada

Jews celebrate the sabbath on Saturday

their Sunday is not our Sunday

Stock market fags are going to be running out of their burning building into IBIT ETF.

Gold, bitcoin, bonds, cash.

Nah I'd rather wait with the greats than skip with the dips

All right, this week is obviously going to be a goddamn nightmare, so i'm going to try to profit off of it as much as possible. I'm too dumb for options, so i won't fuck around with puts or whatever and just go with inverse etf's instead. What's my best play here? Dump it all into SPXS? Bet on VIX skyrocketing with UVIX and/or VIXY?

BTC dumping hard in prepartion for futures

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The scare is over you missed the Vix pump scheme

dumping hard

Nigger what?

thats not dumbing bro

honestly I already put some money into it (SPXS too), i'm just wondering if i should double-down.

bitcoin

Seems like fags are leaving that burning building as well

I paid $4.35 for a dozen eggs today, so that makes you a big old fibber. You should be ashamed about your fibbing ways, since you know the culling of hens has raised prices recently anyhow.

I said bitcoin. Not crypto

4.5 hours to futures

Lutnick: "The army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones -- that kind of thing is going to come to America."

how is lutnick THIS retarded?
you vill take the sub minimum wage soul crushing menial labor job and you VILL like it

actually 3.5, they open at 6pm

I thought it will be robots doing that? Can Lutnick decide on a version of what will happen post tarrifs

it's 4.5 hours to me
no idea what time zone you're in

they are gambling, don't expect coherence

yeah i've only made back like a quarter of what i've lost in the last year. feels bad man
i still have some puts - but none of them are short-dated, and i'll probably still be a weak-handed bitch and sell most of them if we end up limiting down tomorrow

Isn't sukuk a turkish lamb sausage?

they're just in full on shill mode so flinging whatever they think will stick
Lutnick is just managing to do it in the most retarded manner possible. like who the fuck is going to react positively to that kind of talk?

I need a 3x to get back in the green, I'm going to risk it all with penny stocks.

smart

I've lost so much I might as well risk the rest of it

how much did you lose?

lel

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OH NO NO NO BOBOS NO DONT LOOK

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50k

we already posted this bro
why are you people so late

If its not China or EU who gives a shit

Will Anon Babble survive this recession

Ah yes what kind of trade cheating are these countries engaging in also according to Lutnick these tariffs aren't going away and they are all about reindustrialzing America

trade cheating

This crazy bastard thunk trade deficits are cheating he lobbied Trump for this retarded tairff idea and is probably behind wanting to invade Greenland and Canada

isn't the useless scammer admin getting sued in court for years

Zimbabwe has removed tariffs. We rocketing upwards tomorrow

The problem is that Trump believe that Cambodia doesn’t buy the same quantity as an American, so there is no hope when trump doesn’t even understand what he is tariffing.

bros i got a feeling this will be a gay nothing burger

Yes it's going to be chaos but most definitely when riots or occupy wall street 2 electric boogalo happens Anon Babble will be active again

reportedly reached out to reportedly negotiate

50 unnamed countries have reportedly, possibly, potentially reached out for negotiations in one of many quantum realities according to a Trump appointee

it's nothing.

millions of human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones

Ayo whiboi where dem little screws at eh? we be making dems phones fro minum wage

that's code for nothing actually happened

it's literally guaranteed a 70% drop minimum

he didn't actually say that did he? what the fuck lmao

he did, he did say it. nutlick what are you on about . the tiny screws, army of millions .......

i hope youre right, I am praying for the biggest stock market crash in historyl=.

and where will the parts for the iphones come from

same, I just need my put to print so I can exit

Taiwan has banned short selling for the next week lmao

how has the admin not said anything today. are they too busy doing other shit to even realise what's happening? how is that possible? is everyone too scared to break rank on it?
yes do nothing, let me sell my entire portfolio on monday during the dead cat bounce, and then we can begin

Is this North Korea or the liberal superpower America?

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PLEASE MR PRESIDENT IT'S TOO MUCH WINNING WE CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE

i won't even say it

Should I just sell my EU defense stonks or hold to them and pray thet don't get as hit as everything else. I'm already in the red but I guess I can wait a few years

how has the admin not said anything today

trump's probably golfing again today, without any marching orders they're just gonna do mild damage control on social media as best they can without going against dear leader's plans

Enjoy the hell you've created

Taiwan's stock market (.TWII) was closed last Thursday and Friday for a holiday and reopens on Monday, meaning investors have yet to have a chance to respond to the tariffs.

they're fucked lmao

I said bitcoin. Not crypt-ACK

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Enjoy the hell you've created.

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which robotics stock is the one to buy, since this is the rugpull to bring in automation

it just means we'll have a pump for the next 60 years

What the fuck sort of tarrifs does Vietnam even have on the US? It's a country of poor rice farmers, what the fuck are you going to sell them?
Why even make a trade deal? Wasn't the point to impose high tarrifs that would lead to manufacturing coming back to the US from Asian countries? No reason to make a trade deal then.

RETARDED inconsistencies, IMBECILES

Short CBRL

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retards BTC is going under 80k in the next 30 mins

Bitcoin sliding now too.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BTC at 80k

ETH at 1.6k

Futures open in 4 hours and it is guaranteed to be red. It's so fucking over.

bullrish

Are we getting more bearish tomorrow? Strongly thinking of putting my entire portfolio in inverse leveraged funds.

-10% on Monday and +10% on Tuesday would be fitting

The tariffs aren't about protectionism. No one in that administration is stupid enough to do that and there is verifiable evidence of this. The agendas and goals of this administration are as follows...You implement tariffs and use them as a way to gain deals on rare earth mineral and other favorable resources you will need going forward. Broadly, you get The Stargate Project going. You get robotics and AI advanced. You build robots and manufacturing facilities and through technology you completely outproduce all rival "cheap labor" nations.

The goal was never to get Cletus making t-shirts in a factory. The goal is to transition the nation into the ultimate robotics, automation, and AI country on Earth. Every single thing points to this and the administration has made multiple errors letting this fact slip. Meetings with Jensen (but not any of the other chip makers), Elon working close with the administration, Lutnick talking about robot workforces, building of manufacturing to eliminate the China-Taiwan risk on semis, referring to the tariffs as "national security matters," the odd fixation on Greenland, the breakthroughs going on even at this moment, it's all there. If I'm wrong, then the U.S. is done. It's legitimately over. If I'm right, then U.S. is going to be the biggest juggernaut of the next century and beyond.

Here's how this works. If the U.S. starts making breakthroughs publicly, it's over for China. The only option they have is to take Taiwan and cut the U.S.'s supply to semiconductors to power its automation and it would work. The U.S. despite having a technological behemoth on its side, needs those chips. If you manufacture them in the U.S. though, China loses that strategic option. This is how the U.S. is going to dominate. Oh and about Greenland...You have massive square footage for data centers that can be naturally cooled. They'll melt the ice of Greenland with the heat from the computation they intend to run.

Bump

What the fuck is happening to btc? I switched tabs for 30 seconds and it went down another 100 points

make it -17% on monday and we have a deal

It has never been this over, suffering and death awaits

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Bobos we can't stop winning

dont sell your bags while us and the boys dump them on you

The goal was never to get Cletus making t-shirts in a factory. The goal is to transition the nation into the ultimate robotics, automation, and AI country on Earth.

Okay so why not just say it outright and make it more palatable for investors and the American public?
Why is Trump's rhetoric all about other countries ripping America off and that we'll get factory jobs again for American workers.

damn good deal

Isnt vanguard dumping aswell, kek

that's pretty gay desu

3 hours to futures

4 hours

time moves too slow
it needs to go faster

The closer we get, the more scared I get. I wish we could all hold each other

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so...gay bear sex?

what if it falls 20% bros
I'll cry of happiness

My Vanguard 401k has been showing this since Friday.

Because Cletus is shit-his-pants terrified of technology, especially the kind we're talking about here. People like that believe it's Satanic and man trying to play God. You can't come out and sell yourself as a technologist or anything approaching a "transhumanist." The American people are obstacles to the sort of future this administration can bring about. China's people are on board with it. The American people are huge pains in the ass.

You need to frame it correctly to sell it to them and the unique demographic traits and beliefs of the American people requires a very specific sales pitch. This isn't something you can risk because liberals feel the machines won't be black or gay enough or the conservatives feel that the machines are an affront to Jesus. You also just can't come out and say "hey, here's the step by step way we're going to basically turn everyone in the world into our inescapable bitches." Because then no one makes the deals you want them to make and China takes Taiwan to stop you from ever getting that inescapable lead on everyone else.

they're dumping yes, but they definitely don't have liquidity if everyone reallocates to cash
Rip

looking at your 401k

Don’t bother. Just stop looking.

Lutnick explained this today but people pretend not to listen. You need humans to build the factories, and operate them, and keep them well-maintained. It's not AI all the way down like Musk and other utter retards will have you believe. Anyone who knows anything about automation and AI knows that human fucking beings are a critical part of it, often just to fact-check that the machines aren't off hallucinating something retarded. And to perform physical debugging and maintenance, something machines are decades away from if that.

Maybe we get fully automated luxury space communism in 100 years, but for now Cletus is going to need to keep the robots working and all he needs is a high school degree, some machining training, and some on-the-job training to be able to do that. That's the idea.

But that's me steelmanning Lutnick. I don't actually know what's going to happen, which is why I'm hodling cash (almost all short-term T bills).

Over 100 million US citizens own firearms, imagine when they start to chimp out

In other words, you have to do almost exactly what this administration is doing. If you have the atomic bomb, you need to make everyone think you don't, even better if they think you're retarded and could never make something like that. If in order to make that bomb you need a unique supply chain and components you don't have ready access to, you need to convince everyone the components are worthless in your hands and you can't show too much interest in any of it. What they need to do this AI project is far more convoluted than what was necessary for the Manhattan Project.

It's unironically over.

LOL. Poor people who never took an accounting, finance, or econ course in there life. Please go back, nobody cares of the opinion of an incel doubling his 2k net worth.

I am a gigabull long term but sp500 might hit 3000 in the upcoming months. this is a generational opportunity. sucks for boomers.

bump

NEW @_@

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. The average American is EVEN MORE of a servile pussy and as apathetic as the average Russian. Probably more.
I have more respect for sandnigger Iranians going with their fists against their government shooting live bullet on them during demonstrations.
Utterly pathetic.

If you are removing jobs while demanding the population continues to increase, how do you expect people to pay for anything? With what jobs?

How many puts can I pick up Monday morning with $700?