/smg/ - Stock Market General

what even is the long-term idea of gamestop that gme holders think will happen? switch 2 will be the only console with games you can trade in. all the stores are in strip malls with 0 foot traffic. whats their future?

They just want to make the funny thing happen again so they can get someone else to hold their bag at $X where X is how much they need to be set for life.

Btw, to pre-empt the brown cope, per capita is relevant here as a concept of not understanding ratios. It also reminds me of when they say "Biden got the most votes in history!".

kek soxl baggies

Imagine simping this hard on a Mongolian basketweaving forum. Touch a vagina you pedantic faggot.

Next week on /smg/
Please look forward to it!

they memed once and got addicted to the adrenaline

TLRY

wtf I thought that shit died

blackrock

Its so over.

Any advice on when I double down on SOXL? It hurts so bad!

day 3

tariffs go into effect, markets dump 10%

day 4

china tariffs go into effect, markets dump 10%

day 5

market is hysterical, market dumps 10%

Days like this I'm glad I'm too pussy for leverage.

What are the odds that Trump and friends buy up everything on "day 6", and he reverses everything day 7?

i watched the bed bath & beyond cult evolve, i'm very excited to see what the post-bankruptcy gamestop cult is like

non-zero, I'd say about 25%

EU retaliations are gonna be centered on digital and tech sectors, that's when the real hurt will come.

There's still green, so it's not the capitulation yet.
t.knower

You just need to pair it with the right RSI. Because I do think Semiconductors are the future I played it dumb but if the Nasdaq drops 40% it be very smart to buy TQQQ.

China has hit back hard, including not only mined minerals but finished products such as permanent magnets, which will be difficult to replace, analysts said.

owari da

day 6

europe retaliations roll in

I feel bad for anyone who wanted didnt sell and isnt holding cash right now.

shit is going to plummet next week, especially Wednesday.

weekend theme song
youtube.com/watch?v=yS2KyK3pqj4

Nike stock up

Those Cambodians are still getting rich off us!

If its down Monday, we are going into a bad recession. Crypto not crashing makes me think this is an over reaction.

China remains a key supplier of minerals to the U.S., ranking second only to Canada in overall net import reliance, and is the principal import source for many of the 50 minerals America considers critical, such as graphite, tantalum and rubidium.

My net worth is 18% cash, 32% if I don't count my 401k

I solded this morning, trump took all my gains away but I won't let him rug me.

If it's green monday at all, it's just to pinch shorts.

Damn is it bank earnings already next friday?? Feels like last earning season was just yesterday

Trumps signs an Executive Order to keep TikTok up and running for an additional 75 days

Let him cook

This is what the end of America looks like

It’s a man made crash. That’s why I think Nasdaq will crash 30% max. We are the second most obese oldest Presidents toilet heart attack away from a recovery.

China already said they are not selling it

youtu.be/6kguaGI7aZg?si=qp2NYqRFGzMmYAsY

Post thread sound track

Delta

looking forward to seeing the decline in foreign travel to the us.

Help is available

Thanks.

They should just ban it. TikTok is not hard to create.

Not to say what Trump is doing isn't a madman move, but he did say he was going to do it. I'm wondering how much of this is stupidity, rocking the boat, and/or people getting mad at him no matter what. It was coming, he said it would and when, and many of the more active anons are making bank or at least have zero loss for it.

All in on UVIX hoping for a Black Monday

You think we'll only go -10% from here?
nice joke

The stock market has been inflated as fuck anyway

I don't disagree but like I said I'm a pussy. I'd be having a heart attack right now if I was holding that.

simping

pedantic

Did you reply to the wrong person? I'm just not being brown.

why rush the sale when you just got 75 more days of still owning it

five more years!

So let me get this straight, USA exports digital services at 80% plus gross margins such as META, the EU exports cars at 14% gross margin (on a really good year) and the big fat fucking orange retard is seething about this situation?

American greed truly knows no bounds

They want the sale, easier to just take an existing IP and profit from itZ They were going to have one today but then China killed it in the morning as part of the retaliatory efforts. (Today was the 4/5 deadline to "ban" it, but the deal was on track until Tariff Timmy brought out the class presentation poster on Wednesday)

No one is asking the most important questions.
Everyone is (purposely?) not seeing the elephant in the room.
Banks.
Do you really believe this level of shaking up shit has no consequences on the banks, and overall, the entire financial system? Buckle up, because once the skeletons get out of the Banks' closets, shit will be REALLY ugly.
You haven't seen shit yet. And I'm not even talking about inflation and the consequences on them yet.

bro this is literally nothing

Jerome has made it so price pressure doesn't shock borrowing thoever

Republic Bank, Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank already ate shit under bitch ass biden, nothing ever happens

bny

i tried working there and they never accepted me

short their ass

Banks aren't leveraged nearly as much as they used to be. They'll bleed a bit but it'd take more than simple negligence to repeat 2008. They'd have to be cooking their books or lying to regulators.

Doubt it. Banks tightened their belts many months ago.

Is today going to be considered Black Friday now or is it not even going to matter after whatever shit occurs next week?

Yeah the banks would never lie to us

I think the main thing bring down stocks is uncertainty. I didn't forsee blanket tariffs on every country, but those who did obviously are doing well. Now its all going to be renegotiated which makes it hard to predict outcomes and do business. If thinks get more clear over the weekend we pump hard Monday.

t. Bill Hwang

it's kinda funny to think 2022 pre-scared banks into leveraging down which accidentally positioned them better for this complete comedy show

if this survey is anywhere close to accurate, it was to be fair only 240 participants from goldman of investors, then the market has MUCH more room to fall if tariffs either stick around for longer than 6 months or go higher. there's still a ton of, in my opinion delusion, that tariffs go away quickly
he's not actually supposed to be able to extend it any longer but given everyone is just shrugging I guess it'll happen kek

Probably it's going to be light gray Friday compared to next week

Go look at 2008. Even early covid if you're a filthy zoomer with ADHD. There's been plenty of crashes besides the Great Depression crashing one. Then come back and take an educated guess.

External factors that can be mitigated with austerity or QE that make money printer go brrrrr. This is entirely self inflicted with no end goal beyond some cope mental gymnastics about reshoring or forcing people to live like Maoist Chinese peasants or market corrections.

We will see next friday i guess

Banks just care about making money, there's no need to make that risk if they can help it. You're being a little schizo.

is it bullish if the president of the united states mockingly posts a video of a platoon getting vaporized

For MID, yes

the markets dont care about that stuff (well they do care because of the Suez Trade but this won't really do much for that), it's just meant to rally his base of support on a bad day news wise

WHY
WHY DID I FUCKING VOTE FOR THIS ORANGE RETARD

Because you too are a retard

RTX CHADS WE WON

oooof

KILL THE PRESIDENT

KILL THE PRESIDENT

KILL THE PRESIDENT

KILL THE PRESIDENT

KILL THE PRESIDENT

KILL THE PRESIDENT

no mr. glowman, I shant

LOVE THE PRESIDENT because he's crashing the markets so predictably

but i like the guy and i'm making money

My apologies for the difference in opinion officer

You should post this on reddit and facebook for more likes and upbotes.

If you didn't get your money out of the market yesterday, you were fooled once. If you didn't exit first thing this morning, you were fooled twice. If you hold until the end of today you are a bona fide idiot.

The markets are not going to be a nice place to invest until this whole tariff mess is resolved which will take 1 to 2 years minimum but more realistically 4 to 8.

weird way to say buy puts

Mental

You obviously didn't vote for him

Thank your Mr.President. But i'm growing tired of winning all the time.

Market crash? What market crash? Everything is all right, here are the important events today, the fifth of April 2025.

BASED WINNER
WINS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL PLS IMPROVE

He's doubling down? I should have went with my gut and maxed out on SQQQ. Missed multiple early retirement chances already because of undue caution.

we just hit the weekend
the market is dumping
if it don't recover
i'm thinking of jumping

it's april 4th tho

We truly are not meant to be protagonists of our own lives. No agency over our own bleak lives and no means of escape from the meaningless grind. Pass the rope, friend.

Any advice on when I double down on SOXL? It hurts so bad!

wow why would u hold actual soxl it's holdings are trash
just buy options on it if you want that exposure.. albeit it's easier to just get full nvidia/amd than being brought down by boomer trash like qualcomm etc

the stock market is the economy

I know the mood is kind of forlorn right now, but the thought of Trump supporters repeatedly "buying the dip" (especially for tsla) and then being repeatedly dumped on is hilarious and sad to me

The federal reserve doesn't look cooperative, so we're going lower.

tariffs destroying FAGMAN

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i don't have any rope on hand
I have some paracord, but that would be weird

I feel like im missing something, why would Trump be so dead set on the idea of companies removing old factories to set them up in America when it takes a long ass time to build and invest in something like that, and he's shown already that he just changes on a random whim what he does with tariffs

I feel like most companies will just play the waiting game until the tariffs get removed or until Trump is no longer in office and they get removed

trust the plQn

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Poem anon died long ago, anon

You are missing something
What you are seeing doesn't make sense to you because you are looking for an economic rational behind it when there isn't one. This is happening because in trumps America economics is subordinate to politics, POTUS acts according to his own goals and whims which is then retroactively justified by his followers/pet media corps as some sort of economic policy

hilarious

agreed

sad

why
its just darwinism in a new coat
im sure there's plenty of trump fags that also saw what he's doing as batshit insane and shorted the market appropriately

if you're dumb and gullible enough to get played that easily, you deserve to lose your money
as the quote goes, "a fool and his money are easily parted", so what's wrong with that?

oh okay daddy trump we totally will build a factory in your great country

it's gonna take a sec

juuust a little longer

wait for iiiiit

oh thank god that orange turd is finally out of the office back to business as usual

Some countries will take the bait and move companies back. Trump hates the service sector he gives no shits about fagman exports
Also take a look at Nancy pelosi, Obama, Schumer and Bernie in 1996 and 2008, they justified tariffs on china. The democrats won't necessarily remove them when republicans lose for the next 20 years after trump, but look forward to juicy government contracts and government jobs

look forward to juicy government contracts and government jobs

hopefully some of it trickles down to state employee raises as well, some states have 25%+ vacancy rates on those jobs because their benefits keep getting cut

But in 1933 the democrats did expand the government jobs and end tariffs for 20 years. Depends if we're dealing with modern or classic democrats

my theory is he put up the bullshit reciprocal tariffs on everyone everywhere as something of a smokescreen and his real intent is to pressure smaller more pliant countries like vietnam into cutting shitty deals, then push businesses to move out of china and into those countries. which also means he can't back down from the tariffs or the plan dies.

I have his poems txt file

His voters aren't stock market people. They don't care if the number was green or red. They only care about the "real" economy which is price of food and services and how good the job openings are.

his real intent is to pressure smaller more pliant countries like vietnam into cutting shitty deals, then push businesses to move out of china and into those countries.

i dont know much about smaller countries but are they that reliant on american exporting? why not just give cheaper deals to every other coutnry in the world to try to make up for the loss of the american market
sure you lose out on probably a decent amount of profit but you establish your country as a powerhouse in more places

None of it makes sense. It’s all smoke and mirrors to placate the dumbasses while he destroys the economy. Commies did the same thing. It’ll be a lost generation. People don’t understand how much the rich hate the middle class.

On what day do we see angry 401k baggies storming the white house?

Some countries will take the bait and move companies back

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when trump tried tariffs in his first term companies literally just waited it out

normniggers dont even know what a 401k is

I worked there almost 5 years in the middle office. You dodged a bullet. They're the biggest Jews when it comes to giving raises or benefit increases, maybe ever. They underpay for the industry in most jobs. Work for literally any other bank, including dinky local ones and you'll be happier.

Could be. US desperately needs that to happen. Hell the world does.

How money times do they have to say the end goal isn't to improve trade, but to kill it and force manufacturing back to the USA before you start to believe them? Yes they are that retarded, accept it

The moron has said he is unwilling to negotiate, then he is willing to negotiate, and renegs on every promise he makes. Why the fuck would anybody make a deal or sign something with him or this admin, when it's not even clear it will be followed one week from now?
There is nothing more homoerotic than the desire to have a big manly factory job working in a steel mill while big buff daddy works there. The soi jobs working in the air conditioned offices are considered not sexy and homoerotic, and are thus despised. Interesting that the elite classes aren't the ones pushing their kids to work in these jobs though. Do you think we're going to see Barron working in one of these jobs?

post them

it's 730 lines of text

Way higher tariffs in a combination with federal reserve rate cuts will flood the market with money, forcing companies to spend money to get rich before the inflation hits, that'll build the factories.
Free money

Alright, here's the play.
In a vacuum, the market should recover on Sunday and midnight Monday, then crab or dump for the rest of the day.
So the play would be to slurp early then flip for max gains.
But, we have to factor in the Orangegutan factor, which is illogical and insanely volatile.
So I'd say the play for now is to wait and see for futures. If you bear now, the possible rally on Sunday/overnight Monday may hurt you or spook you.
If you slurp now, Trump may (will) do something retarded again and the market tanks earlier than expected and the risk of some gains may not be worth how stupid this market is. This is what happened to me today. Fool me twice etc
Monday between 3 AM and 8 AM EST should be the critical points that decide how the rest of the day looks like IMO.
I'm personally leaning bearish, but I think its wiser to wait

Bottom signal is when people stop coming up with retarded "theories" and just accept that Trump is a true believer and is imposing tariffs because he wants to and thinks they work.
As long as people are still coping about his "plan" we have a lot more to drop lmao

in a combination with federal reserve rate cuts

this straight up won't happen I guarantee you, Trump wants the reserve to do a rate cut and Powell fucking hates Trump, Powell will happily just say "we're waiting for more research to be done" while Trump gets angrier and angrier that his attempt to bully lower rates doesnt happen

the market should recover on Sunday

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Wdym on sunday?
The maeket is closed

see you at 3600 mumu

Futures are known Sunday evening, I think Robihood even lets you trade them at that time, idk about other brokers

he means futes n00b

Rate cuts have to happen otherwise the maga movement dies this year.
Jerome will force trumps hand and a president has resources at his disposal to use against enemies

Trump could be dead next monday he's too old to see this american utopia come true and I don't see anyone in his circle carry on with his dream or caring about it they're all grifters and retards.

wtf why is berkshire down so much I don't get it

he doesn't know about the weekend markets

ngmi

Rate cuts have to happen otherwise the maga movement dies this year.

yeah that's kind of the point, it's really obvious Powell is going to bully Trump as much as he can after Trump said he would do as much as he could to remove Powell from leading the federal reserve

Elmo has been glazing Trump 24/7 about literally everything so far but as far as I can tell he hasn't said jack shit about tariffs. Sacks hasn't tweeted in two days.
Have the tech pros been taken out back? I can see a world where they spoke out and got told to shut the fuck up and fall in line.

Their cash pile will be devalued by rate cuts. Buffet's investors are doubting the recession

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oh god no some things are best left in the past and that is one of them

are they any good

EU retaliation not even announced yet. Full impact of the tariffs mot even felt yet.

Calm the fuck down and just let this play out.

You are a very judgmental person, if you don't understand something you could always ask instead of just assuming you are right and our leaders are wrong. It doesn't even seem stupid when your stock market drops 12% in two days you get at least a 1% relief rally.

Some of them might be

It makes no sense why Europe will use tariffs if they say that they're a bad thing.

It's makes no sense for the UK to declare war on Germany after invading Poland, if they war is a bad thing

The Telegraph reports that Germany is considering withdrawing 1,200-ton gold stockpile, worth $124 billion, from US over concerns over Trump's policies.

What does this mean?

War doesn't hurt your own country the same way economists are claiming tariffs do.
America has always benefitted from declaring and waging wars on other countries, but economist's say tariffs are bad for your own country more

all right, let's see how many of you have crystal balls

"in percentage, how much will the Dow Jones US total index drop by since its high of 61024.05 in Feb 2025?"
I'm predicting about 30%

"how long before the Dow Jones US total index recovers to its high in Feb 2025?"
I'm predicting 3 years

I'm not willing to even try to predict anything further out than 5 days at the moment.

Trump puts 13 billionaires in his cabinet and they let him wreck the world economy. What the fuck, man

The billionaires will buy up everything when we hit the bottom. Keep the fuck up

Have you ever seen Die Hard 3? Where they steal all of the gold from the Federal Reserve building in NYC? (I've been pushing for it to be the movie night for years...)
That gold stockpile actually exists. The US stores gold for other countries for some reason.
youtube.com/watch?v=eaHkDYJ1Wko

crash the stock market and economy

all the people who already have a ton of money buy up all the rest of the stock

now the rich are even richer

crash continues on Monday or do we get a bull trap?

22%

2 months

this minor dip transitions into a crash Wednesday

Post portfolio 1PBTID tranny shill. You don't even hold any stocks.

The entire global trade system is imploding and you ask this?

"in percentage, how much will the Dow Jones US total index drop by since its high of 61024.05 in Feb 2025?"

40%

"how long before the Dow Jones US total index recovers to its high in Feb 2025?"

March 2029

Tfw no androgynous DDR psycho gf

post realized gains on bear/put
i should’ve bought more lol

based?

We're a looooong way from the bottom my friend

They thought they were in charge, they thought because they donated to Trump they could control him. Now they've realised that they're the suckers, he already has their money and they can't make him do shit. All of them have been dead silent on the tariffs, Elon has debased himself and cried on live TV for Trump but hasn't said a single fucking word about the tariffs or even acknowledged their existence. They tried to play Trump and found out who really has the power.

I feel like most companies will just play the waiting game

Yup, that's whats gonna be happening.

They thought they were in charge, they thought because they donated to Trump they could control him. Now they've realised that they're the suckers

This is true of most of the billionaires, the ones that just spent their money on him.
The ones in his cabinet, particularly Lutnick, are actual fucking maniacs.

Tariffs are bad but if you don't retaliate your industries simply leaves and you're just as fucked but also cucked

Where will we be in 5 days?

She was pretty psycho

particularly enjoyed cashing in on AMD. might rebuy puts monday

Minimum 10% further down.
I feel confident enough to say that Trump is stubborn and retarded enough that there's no way he'll have reversed course by then

Cool, so now he'll hyperfixate harder on the Ukraine concept of a minerals deal

I mean it's pretty clear the techcucks HATE tariffs but like good little boys refuse to comment on it for fear of trump

That's the plan, wait and see.
What seems almost like free money is shorting on Thursday or ahead of Thursday due to the CPI report and how shitty it will likely be.

Exactly this, they're cowardly fucking worms.
If the tide really begins to turn on Trump then they'll probably join in, but there's no way in hell they're gonna stick their necks out and be the first to speak up.

you guys realize trump, his family and his cronies all hid their cash in crypto ahead of this right? maybe one of his retarded sons will tweet about buying a dip in stocks, that will tell you when they're flipping the script on tariffs for reshoring over to tariffs for making epic deals

Because he's a senile idiot. He thinks Fox is a more reliable source of information than his own intelligence agencies. He bases his decisions off of what his dick-riders on Truth Social say. He is the epitome of an angry, out-of-touch boomer who gripes about "muh jerbs" and vague-posts about government expenditures, while he plays golf and jerks himself off about what a great businessman he was for convincing his dad to leave him everything in the inheritance. He is every geriatric middle-to-upper management nigger who managed to fall upwards and refuses to retire because that might deflate their egos by a percentage of a percent, except he's in charge of the entire country.

70 million cultists. Just look at this board and thread? We are as fucked as SPY is.
Wonder how many faggots here followed Q.

GO BACK! You do not fit in

I’ve been here since 2008, and biz since 2017 you dumb tourist fuck. Place made me a millionaire , and now it’s sad to see what dumb uneducated poverty fucks like you have turned it into.

This is what people still aren't getting when they're coping about Trump caring. The guy doesn't give a single fuck, do you really think he'd let his family's accounts get blown up when he can just give them a heads up and likely never face legal action anyway. Everyone already forgot that he pulled a fucking multi billion crypto rugpull before even being inaugurated lmao this is not the same guy as Trump term 1. He is on another level now

take your meds schizo.

OOOOH STOCK MARKET WAGIES
Make sure you rest this weekend it's back to the cage on Monday.
For us crypto chads? I'm sitting real comfy right now.

As a beginner whats the difference between betting and options? Isn't it all just speculation? Also any good video guides that teaches you everything about trading and investments? Someone that is based and pushing gay promos and scams.

It's gonna be green on monday cope

good luck

tell me one reason why it wouldn't be

Options in their best form are educated bets, not a roll dice. Ideally you have reasons to believe the underlying will move in the way you are predicting

Why do you think the US will comply? lmao

I genuinely do not believe he's smart enough for this to all be planned. He's idealogically committed to restoring and surrounded himself with yes men who just tell him what he wants to hear. Years of being worshipped like a God has fucked his head as it did Elon.

What's with everyone saying people are losing out, then claiming the rich will buy the dip?
Are the people "losing out" actually selling their stocks now? Doesn't seem like they're investing if they panic sell.
If the rich are buying the dip, why doesn't the average investor not wait out for a recovery?

In what universe do you think tariffs being enacted next week is a bullish event? I'm contemplating folding and buying puts next Monday.

The market hasn't gone down nearly enough to represent the impact of these tariffs. And there are still plenty of retarded retail investors, many of them in this thread, trying to buy the dip, and delaying the full crash.

Anon Babblesmg/ is just a bunch of seething reddit troons

I hope Trump dumps the market even more so you faggots lose everything.

When everyone you disagree with is the same person.

The tariffs haven't even started yet you retards
And the impact of them isn't even going to be seen in a month let alone one day.

This shit will go on for a long while

This but unironically.

Lmao, any of us with abBrain are shorting the market because we knew trumps retarded policies would do this. The more the market dumps the more we make.

Honestly quite impressive

Yeah, no room for anyone who doesn't fit exactly into the obviously "us" and "them" boxes. Tribalism good
You would kill your fellow American if you wouldn't get in trouble.

please keep going down i need it to go down my mental health relies on it going down

I hate to break it to you, but you're not as special as you think.

It will keep going down. How fast and how much more it will go down is the question

We need more Screeches and less Slaters

Get in the fucking locker Screech

Y-Yessir

No shit retard, we have all known this since we stopped being 17. You are not having deep thought or even gray man thought.

Just FYI - there will be a liquidity crisis and XRP will solve it.

bobo holding out for more after a 20% dump

Disposition checks out

Most countries are already bending the knee. Trump will probably lower the tariffs of other countries that are dropping theirs. China drops theirs over the weekend we are pumping 5% at minimum.

Saw a quote where Trump seemed to suggest this will go at least 2 years or he sees manufacturing recover to his liking

What part of the goal being to reshore are you not getting? The point isn't to lower tariffs, tariffs are the point, they want to force manufacturing back to the US.

They are screaming this at you and you just cover your ears refusing to listen.

manufacturing recover to his liking

Whatever that means. To fundamentally change the economy would take decades. It's at whatever whim he chooses unless congress grows a spine.

Countries that don't have tariffs on American imports or the US runs a trade surplus with are still being tariffed. This isn't about trade deals or mandated buys of American products, he literally thinks goblins are stealing American gold out of the Treasury building. I am buying puts on Sunday to feed the bear

For me, it's D&B.

i keep farting all day and cant stop almost sharting myself, is this related to tariffs?

Read between the lines. We dont need 90% tariffs to bring back manufacturing. How have you not learned how Trump does business? You don't start discussions at your goal, you start them to your own liking and ho from there.
Unironically go read art of the deal.

You're getting hurt from this too, you're just too retarded and delusional to realize it yet.

FYI it's a tribal gathering the Americans spent already 1 billion and have barley made a dent in the stockpiles

We dont need 90% tariffs to bring back manufacturing.

The Tariff could be half that and it would still be catastrophic. Trump has never been a good businessman. You need to stop drinking the Cool Aid

Reminder that people are still coping and you'll probably be able to pull out during the dead cat bounce on Monday before everyone realises on Tuesday that this shit isn't getting reversed and the real crash happens. Be prepared to sell.

How exactly are we even going to get a dead cat bounce out of this? Trump's an aggressive, stubborn retard and his cult is doing everything in their power to enable him and make excuses as to how this is the "Art of the Deal", actually. Except literally every single country on this planet have these things called negotiations rather than nuking everything on the table and then negotiating. It's like asking for a cup of water, the other guy knocks it off the table, and then says, "Okay, let's talk." How the fuck are you going to trust this asshole to not do the same shit all over again? Eventually, you're going to say fuck it and go elsewhere.

or the EU drops another bomb

Congress is full of cowards on both sides

Any trade on SOXL at the moment has to be very short term. It will likely test $7 at some point in the near future, and if the market makes sense with how poor conditions are at the moment compared to 2022 (its last crash), it should surpass that level and hit, maybe $6.5 or $6. With numbers so small, dropping a dollar or 50 cents is a loss of like 10% or more even if nominally it doesn't seem like much.

Only go for SOXL if technicals show it is oversold in the short term and politics aren't as much of a factor as they are currently. It is leveraged so accumulating short trades like that can recover you if you know what youre doing

Why can't Trump just print a bunch of money to keep the economy high like we did during covid?

you also want to fuck the usd as the world currency?

How fucked are we?

maybe he will, he was literally the one that started doing it during covid anyways

Absolutely fucked, it's too late now. The entire world sees us as an unreliable crackhead in a trap house. Trump could come out tomorrow and say "I'm wrong, I'm sorry I'm wrong, tariffs are bad, I'd thought it'd be a good idea" and go on an apology tour and it still wouldn't be enough.

wtf why is berkshire down so much I don't get it

BRKB is like a bunch of apple stock, and financials
with some stuff in coke, and dominos
You can just look up buffet's portfolio. It's not rocket science. You can even copy him. He really likes apple. Guess what's down right now? Tech stocks

To be fair to him, checking his graph, it's up since Feb 20th which is pretty impressive honestly.
But it got trashed with the tariff announcements like everything else starting april 2nd.

that will probably
be fine
in a few years
as long as u
keep buying it
regularly
the whole time
no matter
wut

EU retaliation not even announced yet. Full impact of the tariffs mot even felt yet.

Calm the fuck down and just let this play out.

yep, the market will keep crashing until the tariff tantrum is over
We haven't even seen the full reaction of all the other countries. It will keep crashing, or at least declining, until we have some kind of idea of how the other countries want to play this.
Which countries play ball? which countries double down and retaliate? which countries are just neutral? those are the big questions

"in percentage, how much will the Dow Jones US total index drop by since its high of 61024.05 in Feb 2025?"

I'm predicting about 30%

I think 20-25% since a lot of them are blue chip stocks. but we got some tech stocks still in there

"how long before the Dow Jones US total index recovers to its high in Feb 2025?"

I'm predicting 3 years

6 more months until we hit the bottom, 1 year to recover to ATH after that

GME is a spac at this point

it's also beating the market

Is it too late to buy SOXS and the rest of the inverse leveraged ETF's? I have massive fomo and couldn't turn into a bear sooner.

Not too late but gains will be slower going forward. Maybe wait for retards buying the dip to push it down a bit on Monday

Which of these should I put into?

we will only be progressively more fucked the longer that this goes on. it's less a matter of what will improve (spoiler: nothing will) and more a matter of damage control.

Depends on your risk tolerance

long leveraged NVDA when the market bottoms and hold to make it

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I went from 45 to 25 thousand these last 2 days from buying soxl lol

During the covid crash the S&P had a -9.5% day immediately followed by a +8.5% day. Bear market bounce days are violent. Be careful about making bets on what you think the market OBVIOUSLY ought to do.

damn

If Trump was kicked out of office, the stock market would immediately increase by 20%

Not happening again, we can't afford to print trillions again.

The techbros being cut off from the admin is one of the biggest bear signals to me. All who dissent will be purged

I don't think so. It would just signify weakness and cause more panic and divisiveness.
You can stop writing out your cringey fan fiction though.

It's okay, sour grapes aren't for everyone.

What?
Are you....retarded?

Trump himself is causing the panic and divisiveness

>>r/eddit

What is this fucking cope? The current meltdown has nothing to do with tariffs?

med-high risk tolerance

Trump says that chip tariffs are starting 'very soon'

Trump says that chip tariffs are starting 'very soon'

Trump says that chip tariffs are starting 'very soon'

Trump says that chip tariffs are starting 'very soon'

SOXL bros....

I'm all in SOXL monday open

You do have a game plan for this, right anon?
Sold basically everything for when the economy REALLY crashes, buying the dip massively and putting dividends into chinese ETFs until retirement.

i plan to move to montana and live in a shack

SOXLsisters...

SOXL

It can't go lower it's gonna lose all it's value

SOXL to $2 then reverse split

just dont sell lol just never sell and you never lose lol its that simple

kek soxl baggies

I'm gonna be a trip now to see what happens

Throated

I’m waiting for $7. Than I’ll be 80% SOXL. Hope I don’t get fucked as I don’t want to go back to work.

You are.

What a genius, truly a mind of our generation.

my plan is UVIX

What scares me is the marketcap. I didn’t notice in 2022 NVIDIA was 800 billion. At 3 trillion how much higher can it go.
Still, 80% profit growth and a 34 PE…

What is the best website to keep track of stocks, etf's and dividends that is free?

I have tried:
-GetQuin: This thing is dodgy as fuck. Has wrong data for a lot of stuff. I don't get it. For instance, this LU0080237943 is a money market fund, but when you look it on this website, it fluctuates a lot. Makes no fucking sense. It's a shame because it looks nice

-Stock Events: It doesn't show monthly dividends for some reason, just some useless bars per month with no numbers. Also does not show daily up/down for some reason.

-Yahoo Finance: Does not have automatic dividends

-Portfolio performance: Same

This fucking sucks. How the fuck do I do this im so fucking stressed trying to keep track of shit man.

Why are people so bullish on SOXL as opposed to a more diversified LETF like TQQQ or SPXL

Went for a walk and listened to the Goldman Sachs podcast. Not even, as nobody knows how tarrifs will actually impact figures. Until we see bad news flow through the accounting department there will still be uncertainty.

Fucking everything uses semiconductors, and the demand seems like it's never going away

because semiconductors are da foochur and it's the biggest 3x leverage index of the semiconductor industry

That doesn't guarantee US semiconductor companies specifically will do well

I sold my SOXS today that I bought during overnight at 3am because holy SHIT

but what if they do??
aha, now what smartypants

admittedly with the CHIPS act there was genuine reason to be bullish on american semiconductor biz but then Trump raped it because it had Brandon's stinky name on it

bros im making so much fucking money this past 3 months has been like the markets during covid when the stimmy checks came through its literally free fucking money everywhere how much longer can we keep this up? i almost have enough to buy a house in cash i turned 5k at the start of the year into 490k mostly in the past 2 weeks. i love fucking NVDA and i LOVE PUTS thank you options market!!!!!!

not on the list, but LABD and CARD are printing hard

I just feel like with an LETF you'd want it to be as diversified as possible to reduce instability.

My last 20% is for TQQQ as it is much much safer. For me it’s how much better SOXL performed the last two crashes. Also I’ve fully bought into the Ray Kurzweil singularity hype and believe semiconductors are the future.

why would you want your volatile asset index to not be volatile
thats like alchohol without the buzz

but its safer!

ok fuckin nerd, go play with your calculator

What's the point of risking time decay with LETF when you can buy MSTR and get a call option with no expiration on BTC?
Everything goes up or down at the same time, so who cares? Just buy the fastest horse that avoids time decay.

SOXL

It can go lower, much lower. We are still above 200MA weekly. Buy MSTR and avoid time decay.

Demand goes down. The entire economy is based on consumption and demand. It's a recession. It's going to happen.
Tariffs either

go into effect, causing an increase in prices and corresponding reduction in demand

don't go into effect, and we continue this never ending edge of your fucking seat back and forth forever

There's no way out of it.

I was thinking of going 5% Bitcoin if it ever crashed to 60 again. You think MSTR is better?
I always here about this company, never actually seen the numbers. That’s wild!

Eurofag here, you should be investing in companies and assets the president and his family personally like. You don't understand this because you believe in capitalism and free markets and never had a kleptocrat president but they are basically standard issue in Europe.

So invest in Ford and crypto. Also GME.

Who doesn’t love edging!

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just some concluding thoughts generated by a convo with LLMs

SOXL NIGGERS LMFAO. HELLO FROM /GME/ YOU DUMB FUCKING NIGGERS. IM DABBING ON YOU. NIGGERS LMAO.

its so over

the show never stops

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Why the fuck is AMD dumping harder than Nshittia? Down 50% over the year. They can't catch a fucking break.

Maybe it's time to load up on AMD?

gaymd's p/e is 93 man

You can always take whatever the niggers from reddit here say and do the opposite.

I'm getting my back blown out by all of this
I might never retire

I am callsanon btw, but I no longer identify as such. I haven't been posting often as I rebuild to rise like a phoenix from the ashes. im really excited about what I've been working on.

Why the fuck is AMD dumping harder than Nshittia? Down 50% over the year. They can't catch a fucking break.

because AMD is unironically a shittier company than nvidia, with worse earnings, revenue, everything

Maybe it's time to load up on AMD?

probably not, no. bet on the winner. Don't try to be smart here.
if you want to bet on the losers, and the little guys, buy a small cap value ETF. that way you diversify, you're not taking too much risk on any one stock getting wrecked, and some of them probably will.
AVUV for me is the best one there

Bought some soxl calls while it was at 8 bucks.

Question. Let's say it goes back to 30 within a few months or whatever.

When is it preferable to EXERCISE an option over just selling it off?

Let's say it goes back to 30 within a few months or whatever.

lmao

I want to get off Mr. Trumps' Wild Ride.
I want to get off Mr. Trumps' Wild Ride.
I want to get off Mr. Trumps' Wild Ride.
I want to get off Mr. Trumps' Wild Ride.
I want to get off Mr. Trumps' Wild Ride.

just buy one share. If it tanks more, buy one more. If it tanks more, pause and wait until it starts to recover/better news the tariff issue is dying down, buy one more share. Next year you will have forgotten this happened and be in the green again.

kek baggies

When is it preferable to EXERCISE an option over just selling it off?

Tax reasons. Exercising an option is a purchase, not a sale. The cost of the option just gets added to your cost basis for future tax calculations.

Other than that not much.

Did you buy calls this week

it was LLM generated, but this was the third revision of me reading every line, and the discussion was brought to the crux point and cultivated by me, fwiw. it typed what I wanted it to type and I spent more time reading it than you did, fwiw. it's just expressing some thoughts I have on the future of retail trading and crowding as LLMs continue to get better.

Honestly, in my opinion though I think even with basic LLM stuff we're hitting an IQ ceiling though. Programming is hard not because of the language barrier but because of breaking problems down. LLMs can't break your intentions down for you, and that's always been the hard part. so im not really worried about retailers coming out the woodwork to evaporate edge. I imagine we're at least 10 years away from my concerns being a real problem. but in my head I can definitely see a weird new schizo generation of LLM traders

Tax reasons. Exercising an option is a purchase, not a sale. The cost of the option just gets added to your cost basis for future tax calculations.

What's the optimal play if my leaps go deep into the money? I've had this happen before and just sold them but it feels like I'm missing out by not exercising and wheeling them

getting real tired of 1pib google chart screencap posts here

the 1pibs will continue posting until morale improves

Why are the communists and wall street agreeing politically

I went from $3k to $300k to $3k November to jan. I haven't bought anything since, except on my paper accounts. I was previously looking for non-atuomatable edges like reading financial statements and emailing investor relations for low key insider info, but that system broke down (investor relations will lie). I'm now focusing on my last ditch effort of quantitative trading, which I saw no potential in, but it's been wildly successful so far. I talked myself out of it for so long.

why aren't they buying the dip

do you want to own the shares lol? then just exercise it (assuming you have collateral to cover the shares and commission). At least you can hedge against the shares in a downturn

oh right I forgot the word hedge is a slur on Anon Babble nevermind, NEVER protect your money my bad

mumu status: BTFO

im on my laptop so can't post my out of sample stats but it's been really fun. I figure worst case I end up with resume material, im going to make an LLC and hire myself. so I'll have financial and software dev experience on my resume, years of exp. can't go tits up!

Are you me?

what do you thinka bout buying soxl leaps?

they don't even have brokerage accounts. their sole exposure to the market is some 401k their employer is match contributing to.

kek baggies

if you think an SNP500 index ETF won't recover... I have news for you

They're both ran by Jews

leaps go deep into the money?

do you want the stock or just play options for the money? I think it depends on if you thinks its a good company and want the stock, or a shit stock you don't want to hold. You should know before you buy, the price can change dramatically at the last minute.

I wouldn't buy any long term investments right now but my opinion on this stuff diverges greatly from the consensus here. since trump came in I've been focusing on intraday strategies with statistical edge.

a shorter time frame will (generally) increase your Sharpe ratio. In general I don't believe in using my own personal judgement for investment decision any longer. Maybe at a high level some discretion towards parameters should be used, or at a deep value level with a small allocation. My trading is mostly a lower end (in terms of frequency) HFT system at this point, 30-70 trades a day, no overnight holding.

in the future this income will free up to develop different models and have longer term stable holds potentially, I enjoyed researching stocks but for now I need highest probability to get back to $300k ASAP as possible. my testing indicates 10-20% daily returns right now using leveraged instruments. obviously capacity will be maxed out eventually but I can worry about that later

Exercising an option destroys any extrinsic value that it has left. If you aren't exercising to avoid short term capital gains tax, then it's better to just sell and buy stock. Do the math though.

I went from $3k to $300k

you should have dumped that shit to secure the 300K. If your trading scheme is any good start small and build some cash. Along the way you find something that need fixing without risking too much. As your experience and cash pile builds you take on bigger bets, but if you are not continuously gaining then something is wrong with system or approach.

I don't believe in using my own personal judgement for investment decision any longer.

to be clear I mean the judegment should be deferred to whatever model you're running.

not that easy with a low cap stock without liquidity, and I was also getting false insider info of an upcoming contract. don't tell me what do nigger.

when you actually want the underlying thing. I let my TSLZ $3 call exercise along with a $5 put

how come I accure interest on my etf but not my cryptos? Why am I getting paid interest on my etf?

it was dec 31st when I hit $300k, the worst day to sell since you can wait literally a few more hours and defer a $50k tax bill a year. anyway, everyone has their excuses but mine were pretty intricate and unusual. im not trading like that any longer for now anyway, purely quant this go round.

well he said leaps so it would be long term capital definitionally if he holds close enough to expiry
why would you exercise way earlier anyways...?
unless you think its going to stagnate and really want to protect against it I guess? idk

tell me what do nigger

you will do what I say, you lost a lot of money and someone needs to tell you that so you don't fuck up again. Of course the insider info was false 0 99% of business/wall street is a fucking scam.

the chart was ordered by magnitude of the drop, not percentage?

I made 20% on that trade, I didn't lose anything. I didn't realize, however, that investor relations will lie to your face.

you lost a lot of money and someone needs to tell you that so you don't fuck up again.

liek I said, don't tell me what do, pavement ape. my entire strategy and outlook has 180'd, and it's going great.

pavement ape

That's Xir Pavement Ape to you and don't forget it. Now get back to explaining your scam, I mean strategy.

Berkshire is down because Berkshire owned stock is down. That's what they do for a living, own stock (and private companies, which are obviously also being hit hard). As someone else said, their info is online.

The important bit right now: Buffett has been selling shitloads of stock in the past year, including Apple. He's sitting on more money than he ever did before, saying repeatedly in the past year that there are no good stocks to buy aka they're overpriced aka it's a good time to sell.

At age 94 he's simply waiting it out. Watch and learn, he's going to make one last epic kill.

essentially I switched to a 100% quant approach, which I was cynical about before. initially i thought wall st. computers made it impossible to run profitable algos at a retail level, so my edge would be in emailing investor relations at small companies and combing over small cap financial statements to catch stuff LLMs wouldn't pick up on.

I think I was very wrong though, and my results so far have aligned with my out of sample testing. As unreal as it sounds my paper traded statistics have reinforced my expectation of around 10% a day. Obviously slippage etc will become an issue as the order size grows, yada yada.

I assume you’re back above 3k now? Godspeed. I’m $150 (1%) away from climbing out of my -50% on the 1year from getting fucked by TSLA puts expiring the 28th of March, all thanks to this tariff idiocy. Feels nice to have a 5-digit portfolio again.

"in percentage?"

50%

"how long"

Recovery will start the moment Trump leaves. This administration is completely inept in every way. The damage they're doing to the USA as a brand name is incalculable. And they're definitely not done clowning yet. It's not entirely inconceivable that companies will start leaving the US. My bet is on 2035.

I assume you’re back above 3k now?

No, I have no money. I'm sure that soon I will though. I'm not worried, never been more confident. It's weird. I'll trick people into getting loans that I stick into my account if I have to. I have friends who will be running my bots soon who think I have money and I'll start with them.

I’m $150 (1%) away from climbing out of my -50% on the 1year from getting fucked by TSLA puts expiring the 28th of March, all thanks to this tariff idiocy. Feels nice to have a 5-digit portfolio again.

Lol, ranking up in digits is what life is all about. godspeed. insane you held onto Tesla puts for so long lmao, so much pain I bet.

I had bought the puts after TSLA was at $230 and doubled down a few times. It then shot up to $280.
I have 663 TSLZ instead, as those cannot expire.
I sold a TSLA $265 put for $100 profit on 4/3. If I had risked holding it onto expiration day, that would’ve been at least another $2k in the bag.

I bought tsla puts the friday before inauguration and sold for 10% profit the very same day.
I would be retired by now

taking profits on options at 10%

why would you do this? the risk-reward ratio seems horrible

I was second guessing myself and was worried about holding over the long weekend so I took the easy out

As a newfag and stocklet what the best place to start buying stocks?
Robinhood?

You should get a call from your female broker after signing up for /smg/

If you bought 500p on spy a month ago you would be also retired now

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Help is available

Speak with someone today

988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline

oh shit its the big one isnt it?

market recovery on april 21 after passover

r u 5?

Kura sushi is fucking good I wish they had it over here

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