VIETNAM BENDS THE KNEE

tariffs are to bring jobs onshore

but wait actually

The reciprocal nature of them, yes.

Trump really does love proving how MAGAts are just syncophants who'll change their whole opinions to match his overnight.

Tariffs!

Haha, bring back manufacturing! No more exploiting America!

No tariffs!

Haha, art of the deal! These concessions were the real goal!

Tariffs again!

Haha! Free ride is over! Manufacturing is BACK!

art of the deal

be Chinese business

open small plant in Vietnam

ship all my goods to the US through it

loophole on processing in Vietnam lets me slap a “made in Vietnam” tag on

avoid tariffs

If the US wanted a free trade deal with fucking Vietnam they could have just asked nicely, the Viets are probably salivating at the opportunity to dump their 90s China-tier junk.

Tendiesisters...we did it...

the Viets are probably salivating at the opportunity to dump their 90s China-tier junk.

More like Nike is panicking because Vietnam is where a huge chunk of their manufacturing is at

third world commie shithole bends the knee

massive win migabros! mcdonald islands next!

Vietnam produces a large chunk of American clothing such as shoes

Keep in mind that the american version of stone is drywall

not just vietnam, virtually all of the countries with tarifffs >30% have clothing/textiles as their #1 export to the us (indonesia, cambodia, sri lanka, etc).

Yep. And check your jacket too

Kek

the emperor has no clothes....BUT he likes it that way! and so do we...unless he changes his mind!

These tarrifs are set in drywall - Drumpf, anno 2025

The tarrifs in drywall won't set in motion unless acted upon by an outside force

ok, then what incentive do companies have to bring manufacturing back to america then?

Americans are so fucking stupid. Vietnam is the backdoor China uses to sell its goods tarrifs free. China is having its cake (retaliation) and eating it too (access to us markets completely)

These arguments have never been made.

t. Trump supporter that had never made said arguments

it always amuses me how americans think everyone is so outdated with their murican stereotypes then say shit like this

heh we don't need chink shit from china or vietnam

ROFL check out this meme this indestructible nokia vs chuck norris compilation

It's not a stereotype. Vietnam is where the Chinese outsourced all their shitty lowtech manufacturing they're now a bit too developed/capitalized to bother with (which includes cheap clothes, yes.)

Literally what the fuck is the point of crashing everything just to get some meager concession from a shithole country like Vietnam?

I thought "shitty lowtech manufacturing" was good now that trump wants those jobs...
you can call them shitty, cheap, inferior etc but the word you're looking for is competitive

Im a trump supporter and i made those arguments word for word though

He fell for the "reciprocal tariffs" bullshit

Try not being an ignorant retard

The tariffs are being used to strong arm other nations into actual free trade. Negotiate from a strong position, not a weak position.
And all you can do is be a little contrarian faggot and find dumb shit to nitpick like the cock sucking faggot you are.
How are you this fucking stupid? Typical wagie mindset.

Are you OK?

Poor countries like Vietnam, Cambodia etc only have any sort of industry because Chinese corporation Ziyuzi1000 set up satellite industrial hubs cause it's cheaper there

Poor countries like Vietnam, Cambodia etc get slapt a huge tariff for their exported products

Said countries then hold talks with the US, lowering the tariffs, meaning they can keep producing and exporting to the US, which means China keeps winning

Kek it really is comical

Yes actually. Got a pretty decent commission check last pay period waiting in some cash to put more money in the market when the dust settles.
But boy is it fun to call you double digit IQ havers out. Gives me a stiffy.

He said his policy was set in stone. These countries getting tariffed can come to the negotiating table or can tariffed out the ass. choice is theirs.

Someone post the "are ya winning, son" meme featuring Trump

Remember when Canada "bent the knee" by doing basically nothing because the tariffs were based in complete fiction to begin with? Then tariffs went up anyways? The rates are complete nonsense, based on trade deficit not actual tariffs. Vietnam probably didn't have many tariffs on US goods, if this helps the US's trade deficit it's only because China is using them to skirt tariffs.

Here we see the epitome of the leftist argumentation, the sourceless "nu uh". It has won many an argument, and forms the backbone of the system by which they refine their beliefs. He will now retire, victorious. Harris 2028

This. There better be a clause that stipulates 100% tariffs if they even dreams of allowing chinks to operate out of there as they've been doing in Malaysia etc

Have you been living under a rock for the last 2 days?
THE TARIFFS ARE NOT BASED ON RECIPROCAL TARIFFS RATES. They admitted it. They are based on trade deficit, as says.
You believed the lie and keep repeating it.

i thought tariffs would bring manufacturing back to USA and the people of Appalachia will be making $50/hour sewing glorious Made in America t-shirts
won't the manufacturing stay in Vietnam if he cancels the tariffs?

Fart of the Deal!

still seething

you do not sound OK

Haha, art of the deal!

Not into politics but this is ironically what we’re looking at. Trump is trying to negotiate everything like he typically would as a business man. but the one thing he can’t seem to wrap his head around is, this strongman- one on one negotiations approach is failing with peace talks. He should rely on more capable people to bring the war to a halt, regardless of who benefits more from the terms.

The "Trump is playing 4D chess" angle is Trump's plan is to misdirect other countries to discourage them from setting revenge tariffs. He will hype this up in the media but nothing will come of it.
The "Trump is clueless" angle is he is just stringing them along because countries like Vietnam were the main target of all this anyway.
Either way it is unlikely he actually goes through with it - the language used in the post is quite weak ("near future")

I have never seen so much leftist seething in all my years. Glorious.

sound

Nigger, you're reading text on a screen.

Yeah pretty much lol.

ustr.gov/issue-areas/reciprocal-tariff-calculations

I looked into it and it SEEMS pretty reciprocal. I guess the math is a little more complex than "we're just gonna 100% match all of your tariffs on us", but isn't it still a reciprocal tariff? Idk man sounds like a distinction without difference employed to gain a meaningless semantic victory that then gets paraded as a headline to the unthinking masses. Probably from the same people that got mad and wrote a headline when Trump got two scoops of ice cream. But I'm willing to listen about why I'm wrong. I'd prefer not to stay wrong even though if I'm being honest the minutiae of the trade deal isn't really interesting to me.

If it were only from trade deficit then this would show that:

cnn.com/2025/04/03/business/trumps-reciprocal-tariffs-countries-list-dg/index.html

Sorting this graph by trade deficit does not correlate to the highest tariffs. Is the bad part that they factored in trade deficit at all? Sorry if I'm being retarded and I swear I'm open to being wrong.

These are the low IQ people you take financial advice from Anon Babble

stupidly proud and proudly stupid

They did trade deficit divided by percent retard not by total money

Why is that a problem? Explain it like I'm a retard, because I am.

misdirect other countries to discourage them from setting revenge tariffs

If China and the EU set up retaliatory tariffs it doesn't even matter if the rest of the world plays nice and doesn't
China already did and EU have stated that they will.

I really don't see how exactly he plans on fixing this

Trade deficit doesn't include services also the US has run a trade deficit since the 70s their is no way to fix it if a country has cheaper local competitors

You could Google for two seconds and find the methodology used, it's based on trade deficits not tariffs. Switzerland has a 0% tariff on US goods and got hit with these "reciprocal" tariffs

They claimed that the tariffs would be reciprocal, which is to say tariffs on countries who had levied tariffs on us. Trade deficit is just how much shit we buy from them vs how much they buy from us. A bunch of shithole semi-colonies like Honduras exist to sell us bananas and get dogshit in return. Trump looks at all the bananas we're buying from them for pennies because they're just a gigantic plantation owned by American businesses and says "holy shit they're ripping us off" like a drooling mongoloid. Britain had an enormous trade deficit with India because they were forcing poos to work for pennies on fertile indian soil owned by British landlords. India wasn't robbing the Empire, the Empire was robbing India. We were robbing the world and we just decided to fucking STOP FOR NO REASON

You dont want to fix a trade deficit

I'm an idiot.
Have the Trump tariffs even been implemented yet or is the entire market just running on FUD?

What products do they expect Vietnam to buy from us to close the trade deficit?

my ex gf who is Vietnamese hit me up and wants to hang out again..

Am I going to make it?

marry her and move to vietnam while you can

Officially start on April 9th

Oh so there's still time for me to short before the possibility that he backs down or delays them AGAIN

China has like 50% plus tariffs rating, how are they winning?

lies

You lost, tranny

Have the Trump tariffs even been implemented yet

Nope
Everyone right now is gambling on how much of this retardation will actually happen

So he scared manufacturers into moving shit here and then scared other countries into not charging duties on the products those factories will produce.
Starting to think you commies are just retarded.

Everything chud mainly the high demand American chicken good luck Americans your food prices will get more expensive

Not charging duties

I wonder what they charged previously? Wait almost nothing unless they were Indians you say

I'll take "Things that never happened" for 1000 Alex

Like Vietnam is 5.1 percent and will get fucked in WTO because they are unfairly targeting partners

they're front running the dump before Q1 (which will probably dump some more)

But isn't that what the tariffs were intended to do?
Make local American production able to compete financially against chinese slave labor?
Bro are you serious. I posted the methodology used. I literally found it on google and posted it in this thread. If you can't clarify it for my dumb ass then just say so I'll understand.
I don't want to rob the world I just want a homeland where my people can flourish. If I have to have chinese child slave labor to support my lifestyle then I want a different lifestyle.

I don't want to rob the world I just want a homeland where my people can flourish. If I have to have chinese child slave labor to support my lifestyle then I want a different lifestyle.

I agree with you that's why I've been a socialist for a decade.

He’s going to end up a free trade president but sadly that will ensure that he is unable to balance the budget or fund tax cuts

WE ARE SUCCESSFULLY LEADING THE WORLD INTO A NEW ERA OF FREE MARKET

EVERYBODY TOLD US TO FUCK OF BUT WE BUILT AN ALLIANCE WITH A "COMMUNISTS IN VIETNAM"

SAD

Based. I can appreciate a man of principles. I wouldn't call myself a socialist but I definitely support socialism. What is the point of the government if not to help its own people?

Basically, you need to call the WH, tell them you'll lower your tariffs to 0 (they probably were already close to there), and then leave the exceptions you have in place now for a few months from now so the orange retard will have his attention somewhere else.
But will he drop them back to 0 too?

He's going to make everyone peg their currency to the dollar or consider it mercantilist currency manipulation

You go shopping at Walmart for groceries and pay $100. You now have a bunch of stuff and a trade deficit with Walmart of $100.
You also work at Walmart and you check comes in for $100. However, services aren't accounted for trade deficit, so it's still $100.
You consider it unacceptable that Walmart is charging you $100 tariffs loudly complain. You implement retiliatory tariffs on Walmart, but because you are nice you only do it at 50% of what they owe you.
The next time you go shopping for the same groceries, you again pay $100 to Walmart, but you also take 50$ out of your own pocket and throw it away.

You can't afford the extra cost and have to buy less groceries. Your children grow hungry. That's when [rich guy you don't like] comes in and offers your kid $1 for their kindey.

t.ranny who can’t read more than 6 letters

Trump wants to import brown people into your homeland though to work in the sweatshops and factories so the cheap shit they make can say Made in America. Irs unironically more pro-white to offshore the cheap labor jobs and keep White countries as high skilled service economies

explaining something to an American

ok so imagine a walmart

Fuck! I'm so mad that worked on me. Thank you anon you're a legend. I get it now. So it seems like the trade deficit never should have entered into the equation at all, is that right? I wonder what the rationale was on that. Or just a flawed assumption that multiple people who should know better gave the OK?

Basically, you need to call the WH, tell them you'll lower your tariffs to 0

No. They want to negotiate devaluing the dollar while maintaining it as the reference currency, plus they want to completely change the foreign policy.
This shit is a shock policy to fund a new world order, literally.
Watch youtube.com/watch?v=1ts5wJ6OfzA for a quick overview

lol this post is how fucking ignorant and dumb miggers are

I wonder what the rationale was on that.

The only believable answer I've seen is that it's what you get when you ask chatGPT how to implement tariffs. No one I've seen has ever even heard of something like setting tariffs on entire countries based on trade deficit, even extreme tariff hawks are scratching their head in disbelief.

Please explain to me: if tariffs are supposed to incentivize manufacturers to relocate back to the US, wouldn't removing the tariffs because vietnam removed their tarrifs also remove that incentive since there is now less of a trade barrier and importing from vietnam is easier?

Vietnam: we so sowwy, we remove thing we never had in first place

holy BASED
they still won't buy amerislop though.

Trump thinks that if we buy stuff from another country and pay them US dollars then they don't buy stuff from us with those US dollars they're ripping us off. Yes he is that retarded. Literally Mao Zedong tier economic illiteracy

just buy the poisoned chicken goy

who actually wants it?
the chickens in the US are mediocre and they aren't even guaranteed to be slaughtered to a sanitary standard, as in, being free of salmonella

a flawed assumption that multiple people who should know better gave the OK?

The common theory I've read is that Trump himself made that mistake, but nobody wanted to correct him for fear of him disliking them. A lot of power in the government/Republican party now depends on Trump liking you. A single tweet from him can make or end a political career and Musk will gladly pour millions into whoever is running against you.
Some consider this a poor way to run a country.

they only reasonable (relatively at least) explanation is that this is so deliberately botched to signal that it's temporary
I don't see any other way they could do something this retarded unless it had at least an iota of intention behind it
I don't want to be too cynical

My favorite example is Madagascar. A total shithole country off the coast of Africa and a textbook banana republic, their exports are tropical agricultural goods like vanilla, spices, coffee and exotic hardwood. They're basically doing the US a favor selling them luxury goods at African exporter prices, and the US is essentially screwing them over by incentivizing them to keep running a plantation economy.
Of course, they're too fucking poor to import anything from the US, so the US technically has a trade deficit with them. Trump slapped 47% tariffs on them, which will certainly bring the vanilla growing jobs back to the US.

He never specified what kind of stone it was

It's all part of the plan. Give US access to cheap Chinese goods through Vietnam while playing hardball against China by 'negotiating' a deal with Vietnam but not with China. As long as the propaganda machine is working, Trump gets to act like he's anti-China while getting access to their cheap goods so US don't have to pay a fortune for basic goods.

I wonder what the rationale was on that.

TRADE IS BAD

Occam's razor is that he was only left with yes men in his circle after Jan 6th and the Biden years so when he has a bad idea nobody is left to talk him out of it

seemed pretty humble but you'll never miss a chance to be a cunt

didnt he say earlier those tarrifs were set in stone?

Mach 5 Chess

DOGE has seen similar fuck ups so I wouldn't be surprised honestly but he does have some major lobbyists payrolling him and his advisors (and staffing his cabinet) so I assume some measure of competence has to come into play at some point...

Stupid MIggafag Vietnam already agreed to invest in the US, you retards ass senile as your favourite Zog puppet

t. projecting troon who is too hopped up on estrogen and so fucking retarded they can't see the tariffs are just a negotiating tool

Don't @ me again double digit IQ haver

Vietnam

invest

With what money ?