/smg/ - Stock Market General

I’m selling everything tomorrow for around a $150,000 loss, down from just over a million. All of this shit seems to have no sign of dropping and I’m leveraged up and tired of seeing that ratio creep higher as things fall more and more. I expect shit to plummet tomorrow to make this as brutal and difficult as possible to accomplish.

nothing really

TSLA can make a functional, shitty car

Powerful people like zuck held to their mag7 bags and if this continues I think Trump might accidently fall out of a balcony pretty soon

The Business Plot but woke.

Why? He's fleecing the poors and boomers by getting them to panic sell so they can buy everything up for cheap.

What is the difference between imagination and the physical world?

Eazy money bros, when market green again? I miss the rips

so they can buy everything up for cheap.

With what money? All the rich have are assets like stocks that are going to become worthless if this tariffs clownery continues

I bought soxl and will never financially recover

PPT hasn't made an appearance yet

I now have to wait till September next year to be a million
goodnight /smg/...

the rich have assets

the rich make tariffs that will make these assets become worthless

Uhm?

It's not the same rich people anon, there is a rich civil war going on in the background.

All of this shit seems to have no sign of dropping

we're in economic turmoil, a bad one, no one knows what the fuck is going on. i want to recover but its just gonna be another trap and money loss.

things like this just dont magically recover the next day/week/month

like I got off a phone call with a financial bro I know, and he's like dude its gonna take 18 months plus for things to return to NORMALITY. and then you start gains.

maybe in the summer? falls? but this year is potential done.

Yes I have lost a lot of money. Just put a fraction in and recover.

NOT SOXL, WHAT THE FUCK

So how to profit off that?

By being on the winning team

I maxed out my Roth IRA before the massive dip. Fuck me.

that sucks...i took out a 401k loan to fund my roth and didn't buy anything, so i preserved my 401k and now get to buy the dip in both

To be fair I'm too stupid to figure out how 401k loans work let alone how to use loans to my advantage. I just wagecuck and throw money at shit hoping it goes up. Usually just goes down.

but this year is potential done.

not every stonk went down, there are always winners to be had

Even Jim Cramer hates these tariffs, which is crazy, since he hates free trade.

ok
a few days ago
i told u
niggers
and faggots
that it was going to bottom
at ~5100 in may
bounce in june
rebottom in july
then climb to a ~5800 christmas 2025
and ~7800 christmas 2026
but that was before troomp tariff specs were known
so i am giving you
the update

now it is going to bottom
in july at ~4600
and climb to a ~5100 christmas 2025
and ~6700 christmas 2026

u have been
informed
and warned
thats ok
there is still
plenty moar dip
to come
and u wont be missing out
on any major poomp

UNLESS

unless

UNLESS

unless

things change
agin

kek at SOXL baggies

Shut up dude it's not funny

whoops

throw money at shit hoping it goes up

buy us treasury ETF or directly through your broker, at least you make some money instead of losing it.

Yeah down 11% is funny but down 88% is sad.

futures

Unironically, orange man bad.
Seriously fuck this guy. Imagine tanking the markets this badly on purpose

treasury ETF

Honestly no clue what that even is. I buy VTSAX if it matters.

AMERICA'S FOR SALE
AND YOU CAN GET A GOOD DEAL ON IT
AND MAKE A HEALTHY PROFIT

Yeah I don’t know how long things will be until they start to recover. This feels like a 6 month sort of thing and that would put the duration of this to about 9-12 months in total duration. I’m just pretty sure we aren’t at the bottom so I may as well get out and re-evaluate. If things pump and stabilize I can probably reduce that loss to $100,000 or so. I’m not risking an account blowout though. This doesn’t feel like a standard correction.

maxed out my Roth IRA

Who gives a shit. It's only $7000
I put £20K into my ISA in February. Now that hurts

which brokerage do you use?

You have to buy one now. Keep it in the wrapper and don't connect it to the internet. When it is cracked, it will likely require a low firmware version

Vanguard

Anyone else thinking about buying SVIX rn?

Fuck

no
because
wat does that
have to do with
NATGAS AND OIL

nothing
nothing at all

so do u kno
wat that means

probably not
so i will tell u

it means
that it
is
GAY
A
YOU R GAY IF U TRADE
THINGS BESIDES
NATGAS AND OIL
futures price BASED
ETFs

I'm thinking that svix and uvix are the only tickers worth trading

From the Vanguard website, the pic shows low risk short term ETFs where the investment is various short term bonds. You can read more about them and select various mixes of only US, US and repo agreements (I would not touch those), and international debt. I am not advising you to buy, just suggesting you consider putting some of your money in 'safe' ETFs that pay a decent APR while the turmoil is ongoing. Being an ETF you can buy and sell like stock, but its a little slower to settle (a day instead of seconds). You can also buy specific US treasuries (1 day, 3 days, week, month....) so you do not need to lock up your money, but you can also sell the bond if want. Just be sure you stop losing money and start making something. The ETF you listed VTSAX has some good years, its just losing at the moment, depending how much you are down, when you bought, you might consider holding or buying a little extra if you think its closer to the bottom to DCA. Selling at the bottom is generally not a good idea. Most of your money should be in safer investments, then gamble with a little here and there, but learn to keep and grow your money over time.

Okay so what are you trading then Mr. Smarty Pants?

I forgot the pic

how do those
get taxed

commodities futures price
BASED ETFs
get taxed 60/40 long/short term hold
no matter how long or short
u hold them

BOIL KOLD UCO SCO

Futures are heading green we are back bulls we are so back

what happened

Does it even matter anymore?

Futures arent real

just a few
paper hand shorts
covering

Don't care
We are back bull bros

JD Vance tells the American people that they are going to have to deal with inflation.

HHAHAHAHAHAH

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Have you said thank you yet?

trump is the best thing to happen in my lifetime

We are back bull bros

We are SO back

If we are back why is asia und europe red?

We are back bro. I spurped lovely cheapies and we are so back

Ok show us your stock if we are back...

That's what being back looks like

Bros, ignore this negative fool. We only accept good vibes and positivity.

Bull run 2025 is back on bros

because dey cant compete wit us.
America numba one

Europe hasn't opened yet

Premarket is red though

Oh so it's real now? Huh? Huh?

Premarket and futures arent the same

Huh? Huh?

We are so back bull bros

dax is green

Can't tell the difference between Pre Market and futures. lmao

The reason the Switch 2 seems expensive to you is because you´re a grown ahh man and you´re going to beat that Mario game in 9 hours. You´re not a retarded kid anymore that plays one bing bing wahoo game 20 times through.

Bros, we are so back!

Bros? Bros? BROS?

How many of you fucking losers have even said

THANK YOU TRUMP!

even once in this thread?

This market is so boring. Why is nothing ever happening?

What stocks should I nibble on? Bought some DVN yesterday

European stock is OPEN and it's all fucking red
FUCK

You'd have to be a dumb gorilla to have slurped yesterday. Tomorrow at close might be a good time to buy however. Better to risk being early than to miss the retard strength turn around.

If the Euro rises more I might just start buying American stuff desu.

Sucks to be a Europoor right now, Americans however live like kangz. The economy has never been better in fact Tesla is about jump up to the moon at any time now. God bless Trump!

I bought INTC calls when it was down 4%

My europe trip is gonna be more expensive this year, but probably still cheaper than the US because fuck tipping.

mars

American

KEK
I hope you fell for this shit. You deserve it, buddy.

Love all the low IQ retards scammed into selling their SP500s for EU stocks lmaooooo

Stocks will be green by the end of the day

Just dumped all my American stocks. Sitting this shit OUT

BUY EU STOCKS!!! EU IS THE FUTURE!!!

My EU stocks are up bigly. I'm +15% ytd.

I ain't buying shit for a few months nigga

When is the bottom? (sissy

Local bottom next week. Bear market bottom at the end of the year.

DOGEd

For me it's being a monthly invester. Dollar cost averaging. Each month I put money into a few ETFs. Yeah, so right now I'm increasing my contributions and will increase further if it continues to fall.

Trump can suck my fat one

Since the thread is a bit quieter now, can someone explain to me why having a constant trade deficit is a good thing? I've been reading people stating yesterday how there's nothing wrong with a trade deficit, but what's good about it? Surely more money leaving the country than entering is a bad thing long-term?

I cannot believe an institution as Jewish and glowing as the PPT would ever be vulnerable to a DOGE cut.

Local bottom next week. Bear market bottom at the end of the year.

what makes you say the bottom of the market is at end of year?

Crypto has already bottomed. Likely tomorrow will be the bottom.
Trade is complex. We have to get dollars out of the country to maintain reserve currency status. We can't have the reserve currency without running a deficit, and since it carriers so many benefits without us having to do much work, its a tough sell to try and change it.

Because bear markets take about a year, but it's my optimistic guess and we might also bottom out next year.

Since the thread is a bit quieter now, can someone explain to me why having a constant trade deficit is a good thing? I've been reading people stating yesterday how there's nothing wrong with a trade deficit, but what's good about it? Surely more money leaving the country than entering is a bad thing long-term?

I think it's pretty obvious that you don't get rich by spending money

If I buy a book at my bookstore, then I have a trade deficit with the bookstore

yeah, but if you have less money coming in from your job than your money going out, you will eventually be homeless

but what about the value unlocked by enjoying that good or service?!?!

Yeah it's not like you get nothing in return. You get the shit you bought, and you lose the money you spent to buy it. We aren't just handing money away, but I don't think it's a good idea to run up such a large fucking trade deficit for so long. It's trillions of dollars at this point. We built china, which was very stupid, and now they are a near peer foe to us. We built them. What did we get? Did trading with china transform our economy? Did we get 10% GDP growth for two decades and blast off into the future and just get more ahead? No.

No one ever got rich by spending money at the grocery store. I think it's pretty obvious that the person profiting the most from any business is the business selling their shit, not the customer buying it. Otherwise the business wouldn't be selling their shit cuz they can't make a profit.

America needs to get back in the business of making money, not spending it.

Because bear markets take about a year, but it's my optimistic guess and we might also bottom out next year.

fair enough
If the problem with tariffs gets handled, the markets might recover in a few months (After that the problem in solved)
And if it takes a couple months to solve the problem, and a few months after that, then that puts us in about 8 months. which is close to your end of year estimate
Best case scenario, market comes back in like 3 months. 1 months of negotiating, everything is perfect, no even better than ever, and 2 months to recover after that. That's best case.
And it will probably take a lot longer than that
so yeah, end of year is a pretty good estimate, unfortunately
does clarify my strategy about buying the dip though.

It's not really good or bad, it just is what it is. We're the wealthiest country in the world, so we buy more than we sell. There may be some exceptions, like you want to keep a manufacturing base for certain critical goods, but everything has an opportunity cost. More manufacturing means less other stuff like financial services or IT.

My guess for the near future, which is based on nothing more than intuition, is that after the initial shock the popular narrative will change to how the tariffs will benefit the US. And, like you posted earlier, there is a strong argument for that. That will cause the next leg up, which is just due because we have been effectively dumping for two months. After that, who knows. At some point bad data will start coming in, US inflation might pick up, which will start another downturn. Summer is typically not bad, so that could happen early autumn.

Trade is complex. We have to get dollars out of the country to maintain reserve currency status. We can't have the reserve currency without running a deficit, and since it carriers so many benefits without us having to do much work, its a tough sell to try and change it.

is it really the reserve currency status that fucks the trade deficit? I had been hearing about that, and how we switched from the gold standard, moved to the petro dollar system and became the global reserve currency, and how ultimately that has a lot of benefits (though having a gold back currency does have a certain charm to it)
but is it really impossible to get a better trade balance if we are the global reserve currency? How much of an obstacle is it, to that goal?

Bros, why does the line keep going down. What the fuck. Is this the end? It's over.

Better go all cash before you lose it all.

The BIG one is coming, hehe, get it?

eu defence still going up

Trade deficits do not matter. They could be an indicator of something bad, but it is not bad in itself. It's not the same as a budget deficit.

If you're watching delayed futures I have a prophecy from the future: line shall rise an smol amount in the next 15 minutes

Bros, why does the line keep going down. What the fuck. Is this the end? It's over.

it won't hit bottom until the tariffs are all handled
those negotiations and policy changes will take months
and then it might take months to recover
I used to think the bottom would be at april 2nd, thinking trump wasn't going to go crazy, and this would all blow over
I was wrong, just like the market was wrong. That shit was not priced in, and they were quite surprised
so this is not over yet. Not by a long shot

Is this the end? It's over.

But no, it's the end. the market will recover. It will just take time.

Trade deficits do not matter. They could be an indicator of something bad, but it is not bad in itself. It's not the same as a budget deficit.

that doesn't really answer my question, about the global reserve currency status causing the trade deficit

They got someone inside WH already.

It's foolish to try to get a better trade balance in the first place.

anyone else crying and shaking rn?

AND THE RAIN WILL KILL US ALL
THROW OURSELF AGAINST THE WALL

I NEED A FIX NOW.
THE PILLS I HAVE TO TAKE,
IT HELPS ME LIVE A LIE.
AND BLINDS ALL MY MISTAKES.

Slurping some cheapies at the end of the month.
Market keeps tanking ? Slurping some more at the end of the month after.
Still tanking ? Slurping.
Always slurping, never selling. My greed knows no bounds.

also it's going to turn around and head straight back from whence it came

Friendly reminder that if you are not making gains you are falling behind.

Can't decide whether to close my short before market open. The tariffs are still nowhere near priced in because the market thinks they won't be implemented, but the faggot dip buyers will crawl out of the woodwork at some point.

Yh
Lol

At least the sum of money lost during the daily 3% drop gets smaller as your portfolio evaporates

Can't decide whether to close my short before market open. The tariffs are still nowhere near priced in because the market thinks they won't be implemented, but the faggot dip buyers will crawl out of the woodwork at some point.

depends on how far down your short is
but I think the market will just keep going down for at least a week, if not months (with some dead cat bounces along the way)
as long as your short is reasonable you should be fine

At least the sum of money lost during the daily 3% drop gets smaller as your portfolio evaporates

it's only a loss, if you actually sell
buying the SNP500 or QQQ or whatever is a smart buy, because they will almost certainly recover, eventually
individual stocks might not
I'd still be doing DCA as the market goes down and buy the dip. Absolutely no selling. Don't be stupid, don't panic sell. That's how you lose money.

unless it's individual stocks, then that might be smart

S&P is the benchmark, you just need to lose less money than everyone else.

Over the weekend Blumpf might announce the tariffs have been such a great success that he's suspending them for the time being. The man's a fucking lunatic.

So it's all about the reserve currency status? I've been seeing a number of posts over the past months and years about how the American dollar is too strong, so wouldn't this weakening not be a good thing?

But how can you stay the wealthiest country in the world when money keeps going out? Like if Apple keeps spending more than it earnest, it make have billions in the bank now, but in years time it will eventually be bankrupt.

Glad to see i am ahead of the curve.

Based slurping chad

Apple is not giving away money for nothing, they get something in return. What you're talking about is closer to a budget deficit, they are separate issues. I could buy a productive asset like a magic money printing machine and it would still count as a trade deficit.

suspending them

They haven´t even been enacted yet. Market is still coping. I swear the actual blood in the streets moment will be April 9th and yesterday was a nothingburger in comparison.

BIG U.S. BANKS EXTEND PREMARKET DECLINES

Do they know a recession leads to cuts in spend especially military ones literally in every country

Good news one country is losing Tariffs

"Trump will inform Netanyahu next week at the White House that he is lifting the tariffs on Israel," - Menachem Koldetsky, Israeli journalist for the far-right Haredi outlet 'JDN'.

Congrats everyone greatest ally is the new hub

Trump : the market is going to boom

Never know what to think about this. The tarrifs are obviously extremely bearish but hes not going to want to be wrong, so either he's right about it all or he'll cope somehow and make some changes and line goes back up. He's said it now, if he had said yeah the markets are fucked for the next few years deal with it, I'd understand

Best ally status secured

His plan is his hope this will revive America back to the factory it was in ww2

I'm down by 5%

Whelp, if european stocks were considered to be cheap before, they'll be practically free at this pace. I need a break, this is not healthy.

Next step: completely destroy Europe and Asian so there’s no competition

When has Trump worried about what he said was right or wrong? This is dumb

futures look grim. I should just sell and eat the 10% loss and sit out the next two years.

You think he'll get away with this if it goes wrong?

That's the plan

Gonna try to give an example now that thought through it a bit more.
Chinaman can grow apples while Joe America can build cars. Joe wants to eat an apple. He can buy an apple from Chinaman for $1 or grow it himself. The time he spends growing a $1 apple could have been spent building a $40k car instead but then he would have a $1 trade deficit with Chinaman. What should Joe America do? China has what you call a relative advantage in economics.

No I am just telling you in words literally what Trump thinks. Which is nothing

He's 80 years old, has been a milionaire for the entirety of his life, and is a slightly deranged megalomaniac. I don't think he cares. There's only so much to the human experience, and he's had it all.

Got my new maga merch in for trading tomorrow.

Not to mention that his casinos ended up bankrupted

I understand that, but I can't see how it is good to buy 40,000 apples from China and China doesn't buy one car? Instead, all the money is going to China and nobody is buying the car.

there's no risk for him, either he makes this his legacy or it's yet another failed project he can casually walk away from because he's rich. he doesn't want to be remembered as a president that sat in the white house and did nothing. he's going to go big or crash in the process. that's why he's trying to annex canada and greenland.

fxtwitter.com/SecScottBessent/status/1907620204005216499

Say thank you

Big words make my head hurt real bad so i don't understand much, but i trust the plan! God bless Trump

Finnish stocks at literal freefall because all the boomers are shitting themselves. Stuff that was like P/E 9 taking -20% in the face. So fucking bleak.

he fell for le "buy ze dip" while market will be still crashing for the next week

ngmi

Bessent is a fucking hack

We just consume more than them. Chinks have lower standards of living. Some would say we consume more than we should, but trade deficits are not the problem.

Futures falling off a cliff lmfao. Dipfags are getting raped again.

EU DEFbros... Not like this...
Welp, yesterday was too good to be true.

fuck

I still have 10k in cash, I can make this work

stop making fun of me... a sub 100 Nvidia is looking like a real possibility.

fxtwitter.com/SecScottBessent/status/1907620204005216499

Economy looks great desu not even going to lie about it

But uhhh it looked great back in 1928 or something lolz so let me crash the economy to avoid our economy getting crashed

MAGA logic

Obviously this is going to be shit for everyone, concerntroller kun. Adjust axis and add S&P500 line

Still doing pretty good when you consider that even gold fell.

Crashing this economy with no survivors

The boomers always wake up a day late. Shorting even yesterday is easy money today.

they are? they are LITERALLY crashing the same as the s&p. I own both and they are both in the red by the same amount.

US markets are going to finish green

Check them

Yeah I'm coping

keked and checked

did you slurp the dip yesterday by any chance?

Finish green if green means red yes

trade deficits are not the problem

That what I'm trying to understand why, but I guess I just can't get it. Thanks for trying. As for over-consumption, I guess that will be corrected a bit with the tariffs making everything more expensive.

Starting to think if there's no bounce in the coming hours before open, there won't be early morning rally before the selloff continues, and it will be just capitulation from the start instead.
I think it is still possible, but even if it happens it doesn't look like it will be a strong one.

lmao have a little self respect, man

Oh god what happened now

HOLY FUCK

CHINA ANNOUNCES EXTRA 34% TARIFFS ON U.S. GOODS NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

its over

There will be marginal gains in local manufacturing, but there are diminishing returns because every additional manufacturer has to pay more for the same labor pool.

admit it, you are in china

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Even if I'm bleeding all over the place this is pretty entertaining ngl.

BUY ZE DIP!

AHAAHAHAHAHAAHHHAHHAHAHAH
AAAHAHAAHHA

NVDA below 100

youtu.be/VKMw2it8dQY?si=7TknnqqlrVS87v5O

HYAAAAAAAAAH MUSH! MUSH! MUSH! GO MY CHINAMEN GO NUKE THIS FUCKING MARKET

How long do you guys figure until prices return to normal? 6months? 6 years?

volatility chads, our day has come

depends how long the war lasts

buy the dip! SLUUURP!

KEEEEEEEEEK AHAHAHA

REMINDER THAT THIS IS UNRELATED TO THE UNIFIED TARIFFS CHINA IS GONNA MAKE WITH KOREA AND JAPAN
THIS IS LITERALLY JUST THE BEGINNING

WE ALSO HAVE THE EU ONES TOO!

why you didn't listed mumus

Thanx America, very cool

TOTAL MUMU GENOCIDE

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
This is why I set a trailing stop instead of taking profit. God bless you comrade Xi!

GGWP

+ All the remaining countries on the planet.

how much longer you guys think it will fall? Im thinking its got further to go after the China announcement today.

want to buy the dip on amazon and apple stock but dont wanna blow my load too early.

SOXL going to tank another 30% today

over it is

AHAHAHAHAHAH
But really, based chinks. Now wait for next week where EU trashes the Mag7.

According to the NBER, the average recession since 1854 has lasted about 17 months.

sell now even at a loss, buy in later. things arent going to change for the better anytime soon.

I'd wait for layoffs at least. Retail is still too greedy. They won't be greedy when they fear for their jobs.

yep, i thought this was be short term pain but it looks like its going to be a longer haul.

im selliing my amazon and apple stock at a minor loss.

Holding onto my game's workshop stock tho, because 40k literally always goes up long term.

and wallah!

SHUT THE FUCK UP

Thank you for the copium about selling my Apple yesterday, im a fanboy but it seems like they might be totally fucked after this China tariff so 10ish percent loss seemed actually fine

Priced in status?

Crashing this stock, with no survivors!

Thought they were gonna target swing states, but I guess they're trying to push a recession this time.

I'm in SOXL at $10. Just a small play for fun.

burger SOXL baggies are gonna rope themselves when they wake up, kek

Looking for the best lube for getting ass fucked. Any suggestions?

How do tariffs make domestic manufacturing more appealing? Nobody is opening a factory when the market is crashing

id say buying rare metals stock would be the way to go, but i saw an anon yesterday saying even silver is going dow

how does shit like "opening a factory" even work in an actual real world scenario? these things take several years before they can be run. by the time a factory is open, america probably has another democrat as president and he will reverse most of the current changes.

We're opening all the factories and we're gonna make Mexico pay for it

Every GOP seat in 2026 will turn blue lmao

aight it was fun for a while but this is getting too far
someone smack the orange retard in the head already so he snaps out of it

Come on Europe. Deliver the final blow.

One thing we can guarantee about a Trump presidency is that it will never be boring.

How long do you guys figure until prices return to normal?

How long will it take for castrated Republicans in congress to depose Trump? Oh, never you say? Well then never, get ready to learn Chinese buddy.

Yeah Trump is getting impeached for real this time

China announces rare metal controls, imposing export controls on samarium, gadolinium, terbium, dysprosium, lutetium, scandium and yttrium

Holy shit bros its so over

pre-market

It's fucking over. Trump is the worst president of all time

holy mother of vix

What happens to a put if the stock drops below the target price? Do you just inverse into a long position and start losing money?

kek
Goes to show how much you can rely on "analysts".

Republicans ever doing anything against Trump

China already won. Even if he reverses everything right now, the US has lost all credibility. Why would anyone trust America when it even reneges on all its commitments and deals. Trump signed USMCA just to dump it on his 2nd term.

after a long time we finally get some decent buying opportunies and stockpicking shines again.

I meant when the republicans get slaughtered in mid terms but them turning against him wouldn't surprise me either

Thank god I got rid of my bags.

what about the eu?

Oh god what the fuck, italians on track to loose 1/10 of their stock market in one day.

People are still holding onto the hope that Trump will walk back his tariffs. When reality sets in that Trump is a fucking retard, stocks will drop further

EU/JAP/KOR tariffs are not even on yet

China to impose export controls on Samarium, Gadolinium, Terbium, Dysprosium, Lutetium, Scandium and Yttrium

vix almost 40. maybe time for some kind of bounce

things are so grim in europe even telecom, groceries and utilities are plummeting

this is gonna be black friday in the us lmfao

This is mostly a trade war between the US and Chyna.
The rest of us just have to bend over and take it

Holy shit
This is a super falling knife

SOXL is single digit now

Orange nigger will find a way to make it worse. He always does.

Ah fuck, just realized it's Friday. Who is going to hold over the weekend?

mfw Intel is my biggest position

I'm going to hold but I'm going to hate it

SOXL baggies will defend this

I meant when the republicans get slaughtered in mid terms

Republican politicians literally only care about their primary, nothing else, and primaries are dominated by the MAGA base, not moderates or centrists who vote in general elections.

We saw this in 2024 state elections, where several batshit insane Republicans candidates raced to be the most Trumpian of them all, won among the hardcore Republican base, but then lost to sane Democrats in the general election (even though Trump won on those same ballots).
A perfect example of this is Kari Lake in Arizona, she's election poison, yet Republicans keep voting her as their candidate, even if it results in them losing a seat over and over.

is it really the reserve currency status that fucks the trade deficit?

Yes. The constant demand for dollars makes it impossible for a trade surplus. What retards don't seem to understand is that this is ultimately irrelevant because all other currencies are measured against the value of the dollar, much like in a gold standard. Trade deficits would only be a problem if too much dollars were being printed and other currencies ditched the dollar due to inflation being excessively exported. Donald might have the right idea (bring back some high-tech manufacting to the USA, don't rely too much on services alone - that's what tangible goods and an healthy economy is all about) but for the wrong reasons.

Okay I'm starting to hurt now

crooked Donnie needs to wake the fuck up so he can rage and sperg out to further commence the decline

My fucking money what should I do bros?

I invested into eon like a fucking retard hoping big funds would move money into safer stocks before the weekend, instead they pulled out altogether, this is an actual crash we're experiencing

Run to the bank. NOW

all the incels in here who voted Trump

lmao

threadly reminder: the markets still think that the tariffs aren't gonna go through

when premarket open?

The US market's reaction to Trump going full retard is completely justified but I think European and Chinese markets are overreacting. The US economy is large, yes, but it's only one country and tariffed countries can trade with each other to offset the loss to their American business.

Is it still time to short? US is still asleep after all. I can see the open being worse than the futures

they probably wont

I don't think they do anymore, europe is blowing up right now and the us will be much worse than yesterday for sure, hope they shit themselves in the weekend and back down a bit

the US is almost half of all global trade, you can't just replace that by trading with each other lmao

how is everyone doing? I am glad I started to hedge yesterday and I am sitting on cash, so should be alright. I wouldn't want to be all in right now that's for sure.

forever young I want to be forever young

During covid I had to sit holding the bag for 2 years for it to recover. I also had a bad time 5-10 years ago with T stock. Recovery too a whole year.
Essentially you can't sell and you will recover eventually.
People who trade for a living may cash out some stuff to have liquidity and make up the difference but it's very dangerous.

This is like losing 15 E6 characters in a single day *sigh*

remember how there were a bunch of europeans fleeing to the DAX a few weeks ago and it was having a big run up?

yeah they all just got rugged, nowhere is safe

I mean trust in the US is already completely broken but I hope so
Israel and Argentina already bowing to trump and removing whatever tariffs they had may embolden him though who knows

they had may embolden him though who knows

Star Rail or Genshin?

That would be true if the US actually provided anything of real value to the world in return for the goods it imports. That's not what it's doing though. Basically, the US has had a privileged position for decades in that it controls the world's reserve currency. It provides the world with a stable medium of exchange and in return it gobbles up ungodly amounts of the world's products and services by printing money and exporting the inflation overseas. American consumers aren't actually producing enough to justify their high consumption, they just lucked out and where born in a country that shaped the global economic order to suit itself after WW2. Now guess what happens if countries band up and find an alternative to the US dollar?

-1211 on djia
-615 NAS
-165 S&P
Implied opens

Don´t think the East Asian powers and the EU will go sicko mode on Dons D like Milei and the Israelis have.

You just made me feel bad about my losses, it was just a number to me.

You should have voted for the black woman

youtube.com/watch?v=bbxjTzEbLmI

thats what you learned from covid wtf?
no unless you got millions you cant liquidate in a snap, you need to use your advantage as a poorfag that you can liquidate your entire position instantly and also buy back in a snap

it s such a radical fundamentals change you cant be asleep on the wheel while big funds are liquidating over several days

oh no whats this

I AM FINE WITH THE EVENTS CURRENTLY UNFOLDING

youtube.com/watch?v=glf8sbuECJo

might be trying to cover his ass legally (lol as if that matters anymore) since his whole power to impose tariffs come from the super filmsy national emergencies he's called
yeah don't think so either but he already got his talking point that his strategy works

I bought a fat bar of gold back when the price dropped a few weeks ago and most of my savings are in a fixed interest deposit in a big bank so I'm fine, but still I'll probably lose 2-3 weeks worth of wages in the stocks which pisses me off because yesterday I said to myself don't fucking buy and the first thing I did when I woke up was fucking buy

this is why he keeps trying to fuck them over all the time?

of course it's not safe, euro economy is highly integrated with the american market

It was tempting to buy yesterday but closing at tge lows was a bad sign

Holy shit.

it's only a beginning, anon

china/japan/korea already met to discuss a united front against trumps trarrifs. these countries hate each other. they also haven't met to discuss economics in 5 years. we just can't stop winning

panic bought SOXS last night

up 18% since then

Homy shit

cars, machinery, pharma and banking were obviously going to get fucked no matter what, but fucking electricity companies collapsing is where you know this is serious

this is the most retarded financial crisis of my lifetime

Trump is old. What is the chance that he will get a heart attack and drop dead, saving the world economy?

Yo chat, is this real?

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Palace coup is practically impossible anon, say what you want but America is a functioning democracy and republicans will ride and die with him until republican voters ditch Trump which they won't.

It's gonna be fun 4 years until blue wave hits and *fixes* everything

it won't bottom out until mid-april at the earliest, and might just keep going until may.

BOBO PLEASE SPARE ME
MY RETIREMENT MONEYS

I'm actually considering cutting my loses at a few hundred bucks, this shit is not going to go back up in months and I don't want to hold this dead weight

The Switch 2 is going to cost 700 USD here. I can't take this much longer.

you already got a couple in the senate who shat over some of the canada tariffs. If this shit keeps going, we might see a real party split.

kek SOXL BAGGIES

WHAT THE FUCK DID I WAKE UP TO????????

JPMORGAN RAISES RECESSION RISK TO 60%: WSJ

NONONONONONONONON

ShortingVIX was a mistake

Holy fuark. Are we hitting a circuit breaker today?

good morning, america

double down

SOXL about to hit $8

how low will it go, back to the 2022 $6 lows?

Kek brace for 25% inflation at the bare minimum. If I were Powell, I'd give my resignation now, say fuck it fix your shit yourself, and fly away to the sun.

thought trump would cuck so I slurped

he is dead set on continuing this war

WHATS THE FUCKING PLAN? SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT HIS PLAN IS!

Vix over 45 now

We should see a minor bounce pre market in the coming hour, I think.
After that there may still be a non significant bounce right after open, but I'd say the pre market bounce is going to be the last reliable stop before a total collapse.

This is legitimately the Great Depression 2.0 and we are going down 90%. So far down about 8%

but America is a functioning democracy

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
The current shitshow even being a thing should tell you it's fucking not. Emergency tariffs, my ass.

Trump has been a secret Democrat operative this whole time.

Everyone is already begging for Black October and a Government of National Salvation to happen

We're speed running this

Please add a link to suicide hotline in the next general. Our SOXL sisters don't need any more I-told-you-sos, they only need someone to listen.

it's gonna come back

Kek, got a reassuring email from my broker.

A regime that thought it could be voted out of power wouldn’t have done this. You’re in it for the long haul amerilards.

Based and kys pilled.
/vig/ had this at one point and it saved many lives.

Boomers have the seething so fucking hard right now. Their 401k's are getting raped beyond belief. GET FUCKED FAGGOTS.

He's a fox news boomer anon. Cramer might as well be his economic advisor.

s&p500 is going to hit 4800 over the next few weeks/months.

This is the plan. A completely isolated protectionists US with no imports or exports whatsoever

BUT THE VOICE OF THE PARTY WAS LOUDER

I am reminded at this time of the Monroe Doctorine.

This is how communist revolutions happen guys. Get ready.

There is no market crash in U.S.A.

they still will vote trump

Give it to me straight biz
Is this a short term blip or the start of a recession

okay shan't be touching stocks again until we reach the dip, the good thing is we'll either make a lot of money or be so fucked money won't matter anymore

XOM to $20

Dow futures are not looking pretty after China's response.

wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-tariffs-trade-war-stock-market-04-03-2025/card/jpmorgan-raises-recession-risk-to-60--clWSymXLSyvXZ7fPu6g6

Literally a recession.

if there was any truth to the idea of 'muh hidden powerful elites', they'd have him snuffed out ages ago

it's all so boring

Something is actually happening for once

Nononononono this can’t be happening

we have to wait for the US markets to close and for the weekend's announcements but if they don't back down this has the unironic potential to be worse than the great depression

Apparently he's already standing dangerously close to windows.

but if they don't back down

if what doesn't go back down?

Republicans need to get over their obsession with isolationism. It is a failed policy.

months

at this rate give it a week

The Elites are real, people just forget they are ego-midwits who you can flatter, take their ngo money, then hang them with the money they gave you

Some of the funniest seething I have seen is from Billionaires who went all in for Trump last year and only *just* realized Trump was serious about tariffs

Hitler also took all of his local bankers for a ride by pretending to be a rational leader in a suit while meeting them then took their money for his meme shit

So I guess the shakedown was yesterday, the shitting your pants and running happens today

they the american government, aka trump and his bootlicking stooges

But anon, America is a democracy and 2024 election is the best indication of that. Millions of people voted for Donald Trump against their best interest and the interests of big business. Rule of people doesn't necessarily produce best results. Remember 2008? TARP barely passed and the fallout of saving the US economy as a whole spawned the tea party. Meanwhile in Europe measures taken by politicians mirrored the public opinion, the will of the people and resulted in 15 years of lost economic growth due to austerity. Europe punished banks and big businesses, we can see how that worked out in the end.

Americans are getting the taste of real democracy and the bitterness that comes with responsibility. You guys love to dunk on lobbyists but they're the unsung heroes that keep the economy churning and prevent regulatory fuckups, clear useless red tape and make things more efficient.

Lobbyists are the heroes Americans don't deserve, the ones they need right now.

RUBIO SAYS `MARKETS WILL ADJUST' TO U.S. TARIFFS

hmmm

It wasn't their obsession until like 7 years ago, it was Trumps obsession. It's solely because the party prostrated themselves before Trump and their voters have become braindead zombies who follow his every word and will vote out any Republican who advocated for free-trade or sound foreign policy.

Wdym worse? Trumps depression will be the greatest, the best.

oh sorry, i misread

PG green

Yes the es piss 500 will adjust 1-2k points lower accurately reflecting the less efficient economy

Americans are about to find out Democracy can't cope with the demands needed to be relevant in the 21st century

You need to have 5 and 10 year economic plans. You need planned economies. You need long term thinking. You need mass anti-corruption campaigns. All of this is structurally impossible in America's system

soxl premarket -17%

Did...did he just tell us to dilate?

chinaeducenter.com/en/learnchinese/lessons.php
Y'all need it

I think I might change the password on my brokerage account so I don't sell OR buy anything for a few months.

most beautiful depression you have ever seen

Look it at go

is trump trying to force the US to try and mirror China? their system seems to be extremely successful so far

BREAKING: California to ask countries to exempt it from any retaliatory tariffs on the US, per FOX

AHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

God i wish there was a viable, moderate third-party that won't do retarded shit like this. The closest we get are a bunch of idiots larping as some meme-shit from Europe.

You can also adjust to a gunshot wound by dying.

trump trying to force the US to try and mirror China?

Yes, that is exactly what they are doing. However China's system is structurally impossible in the US unless there is a Maoist revolution that kills and resets the US for one or two generations first.

Luckily, democracy was fake all along

HAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

IT BEGINS

please Cali, just secede

The problem is, nobody knows what the fuck this demented orangutan is thinking. He might come out tomorrow and say lmao no tariffs. People act like he has a plan because he's using human tools. He's just a fucking monkey sawing wood.

final blow

you wish, now the eu will make a move, then he will retaliate on the chyna tariffs, then he will start threathening a more serious conflict with the canucks/danes

Yes, but their fake system also can't do it either

The absolute fucking state. Does California not have a legal team to tell them they literally cannot do that.

Stockuck bros..... Gold and Bitcoin are holding up well while our "safe" portfolios are dying

kek

new bread

You need to have 5 and 10 year economic plans. You need planned economies. You need long term thinking. You need mass anti-corruption campaigns.

This. Tariffs could work if they came together with solid plans to reindustrialize the economy. Instead you gonna have 4 years of retardation until orange retard is out, no one gonna follow along knowing that dems will be back.
US needs to be turned into dictatorship like China to survive, too bad right wing retards will burn half of the country to prevent something like that from happening.

they already do that by doing targeted tariffs (also known as normal tariffs a couple months ago) on products made on red states, ie bourbon

imagine not making money with puts, thank god for this generational shitshow by donnie.

And that’s what’s happening

''Ok if you join the European Union''

Bro...
Next week Euros will hit back at the US services sector where America actually makes a fuckload of money off of the Union with its software, consulting services and all sorts of professional services in a move specifically tailored to kick lil' Donnie in the nuts. You haven't seen shit yet.

rip the fuckers buying vix puts