IQ TEST - RETARD ALERT

Apptronik is who I'd be investing in heavily if they were publicly traded.

Why? Their last videos are 2 months ago. They could easily showcase sim2real progress but they haven't where Tesla have

Robot company

Hasnt sold a single robot

tell me where i can buy a tesla robot. Tell me if they have even sold a single robot. You are a retard and it shows.

implying BYD can't get into robotics and mog Tesler

did you play with nvidia isaac? any retard can teach a robot to walk these days, the hardware is not rocket science either

Okay you've clearly done your homework, but for non accredited plebs our options for investing in Ai and robots is a joke.

buy tesla, buy nvidia

Let me know when I can actually get in before hundreds of billions in MC

No, he's right, YOU are totally retarded. Not him, you !

would

Not sold a single robot

Claims to be a robot company

Lol you retards are getting worse and worse every year. Go ask chat GPT before you spread your retardation.

If you aren't accumulating TSLA you're ngmi

Nobody wants human shaped robots except to fuck, humans are useless. Everything is robotic, my fridge is a fucking robot.

Know a guy that's been given tours of their facilities.

1. Robots with human form factors aren’t needed in industrial settings. The human form factor isn’t particularly useful in these settings unless it’s performing extremely high dexterity actions (similar to those done by technicians), engineers design and program industrial robots (think robot arms) to perform all the tasks necessary for a factory setting already, or they redesign industrial processes to fit existing robotics tech. This technology is already extremely fast and flexible, a bipedal robot is slow and clunky by comparison.

2. Places where a human form factor might be necessary (unloading groceries, washing dishes, folding laundry) are still high dexterity environments where these robots will never succeed. Nobody wants to share their 500 square foot apartment with a 300 lb, 7 foot tall hunk of metal that will be clanking around, bumping into things, accidentally breaking things. The technology has an extremely long road ahead of it before it’s useful in these environments.

If you can provide responses to these two points I will consider it.

but elon said we would have fsd in 2017 and robots in 2022 and roadster in 2019.

Just buy Google, MSFT, NVIDIA. They're too big to fail and have too much of a head start.

When it comes to AI endgame (super intelligence/mass AGI servers), there will be a Cantillon Effect but for intelligence. In the same way that being a large bank and having early access to Fed printed money allows you to take advantage of the capital prior to the resultant inflation as the capital distributes.....

Being a leading AI tech conglomerate and having access to the most cutting edge models will provide unparalleled competitive advantage in markets/business craft with corporate partners having significantly more competitive advantage than those who don't in their respective sectors. They will be analogous to world banks. Imagine Google having a corporate AI model, trained on existing internal data on all of it's existing products, markets, relations w/ various vendors/countries, supply chains, R&D, etc. The ability to direct their massive compute infrastructure towards strategic planning, corporate streamlining/optimization would be paralleled only by those with similarly massive compute/next gen models (eg. MSFT).

The craziest part is that this Cantillon-like effect in this context is domain agnostic. Want to beat your competitors on R&D of a new pharmaceutical drug? You better have access to the best versions of AlphaFold/pharma models available. Want to optimize/streamline production of your cars to beat your competitors on price margins? You better have the best factory automation omniverse money can buy (eg. NIVIDA).

This is like in competitive gaming/sports when new meta is discovered, those that adopt it the earliest gain the most advantage as the rest of the field is suddenly at disadvantage. Slowly as the meta becomes more ubiquitous the advantage fades. But in the context of corporate AI provision, the ultimate winners are the ones providing this necessary tool...Google/MSFT. To not partner with them is to lose to those who do.

This is a great post that I am also interested in seeing responses to.

dont care. just want to fuck a robot like in Detroit Become HUman

Robots with human form factors aren’t needed in industrial settings

nam.org/mfgdata/facts-about-manufacturing-expanded/

There are roughly 13 million manufacturing based workers in the US. Any human currently employed in a factory is replaceable.

What do humanoid robots bring that ABB style arms don't? Interoperability. Something falls off the conveyor belt? Need someone to pick it up. Need to replace a part? Technician.

In the perfect world dark factories with zero error run 24/7. Humanoid robots will bridge the gap by allowing replacement of the human workforce. What's insane is the interoperability of said humanoids. They can be jack of all trades workers, capable of using cloud based AI models to perform various tasks of varying difficulty/expertise. Need an engineer one second and a technician another? No problem. You just replaced two workers with one. They don't sleep, don't tire, don't need vacation/benefits/insurance. You OWN a fucking perfect slave for less than the annual salary of a human worker.

these robots will never succeed

literally read the fucking OP.

youtube.com/watch?v=4MvGnmmP3c0

youtube.com/watch?v=WoXCHr1IaTM

Human workers are competing with slave versions of themselves that will become better than they are.

people should use specialized form factor robots instead of humanoids

The long game benefit of humanoids is that they're plug and play into slots that humans already fill. Just order the same generalized robotics platform, train all the models in a couple of days, and then deploy.

Already have 2k NVDA shares

I think the real question I'm more interested in is how do I use this thing to make me rich? Its 16k as of now and available for purchase on their website.

You think if I just buy one and make it like a waiter that the novelty effect might drive customers short term?

attach fleshlights to it, so incels can fuck it.

That’s fine, but increasingly humans don’t have a huge role in industrial settings anyway. In manufacturing the idea is to go as fast as possible with high precision in most cases, and slow, clunky human form factors aren’t suited to that.
Think of a CNC lathe vs a humanoid robot with a manual lathe. Both utilize “robotics” but one replaces the human being with a robot to work a manual machine while the other reworks the lathe into something that can be controlled with existing tech, resulting in much higher speeds, tool changeovers, and throughput. That’s not to say humanoids will have no use cases, but that form factor isn’t conducive to going fast and high throughput, even if you had a theoretical human that never got tired and never wanted a break and never had motivation problems.

That brings me to point 2, which is human centric environments like a house or a kitchen. I could imagine some sort of service where, using your phone, you “scan” in your apartment or your kitchen to some sort of service, you give a text based request you’d like to see happen (put the dishes in this cabinet, fold the laundry and place it here) and a robot gets shuttled to you at some designated time to complete these tasks. I don’t foresee the first adoption being individual ownership of these robots like Roombas have been adopted, but that doesn’t matter that much.

It does look like Google is trying to solve this problem based on this post

1x.tech/neo

youtube.com/watch?v=uVcBa6NXAbk

youtube.com/watch?v=Z3yQHYNXPws&t=53s

youtube.com/watch?v=p3uBMqCPSDk&pp=ygUGMXggdGVk

You need to understand that currently there is a lot more capital to be unlocked by replacing the majority of the human workforce as opposed to getting consumers to spend the equivalent of a new car on a 1st gen home humanoid.

That said the home market is already in R&D.

These technologies are obviously not market ready yet, but big tech and partnering industries/companies are telegraphing their intentions hard. It's interesting the general lack of media coverage/public awareness considering the implications.

These technologies are obviously not market ready yet, but big tech and partnering industries/companies are telegraphing their intentions hard. It's interesting the general lack of media coverage/public awareness considering the implications.

The larger investors don't have their full desired allocation yet, we won't get a huge push till they have.

You gonna just ignore my reply? Theres gotta be some kind of low hanging fruit to take advantage of them to profit outside of investment. What are your thoughts.

shit this was for OP but still. I'm sure theres more then throw money at a company and hope number goes up in a soon to be crowded market to profit off robotics.

Unbelievable, may I ask your background sir? It's rare to see this kinda of highly intelligent take on humanoid robots even inside the industry let alone on this indian shit flinging site.

I have been preaching this: humans started the industrial revolution by replacing human workers with machines, now companies are trying to revert that by replacing machines with inferior versions of humans (humanoid robots)

Nobody seems to realize or accept that the reason we still have human workers in factories is not because we need the human form factor. Like if it can be automated, it will be. And the fact that it isn't automated? Because it can't, the technology (actuator, sensory, controls etc) simply aren't there yet for any machine to automate the task. Clowns will look at this opportunity and be like this is why you need the epic humanoids! Bitch a humanoid robot is just actuators on a stick, and it is an extremely inefficient machine, it will lose to specialized robot every task and no factory will use them outside marketing

As I said before at current state they’re useless gimmicks for the consumer.

IMO for the near future their utility in large part comes from their ability to function as a hivemind/part of a system and will require specialized training (see BMW/Figure’s partnership) in factory/industrial settings. This application is also heavily reliant on digital twin/omniverse-like platforms being employed by the factories.

You’re not the target audience for these tools as of right now.

Low iq. Imagine being spoon fed this much and still managing to drool on yourself this hard.

To piggyback on this comment and provide proof of concept.

youtu.be/lC0QLivuRgw?si=0fwicDPfRK9QVTob

I've been paying attention nigga. Tesla Optimus is probably the leader right now

LMAO Optimus is less impressive than Honda's Asimo from 25 years ago and Asimo wasn't just a remote controlled scam product used to hype investors like Optimus.

When will FSD go nationwide?