Will Trump tariffs on Europe make american wines great again?

make american wines great again?

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nothing can save american wines
the great day of Californian wines are already over

What went wrong?

What went wrong?

not a single reason

overproduction

tastes like shit if you don't thin out
currently happening but only because of economic pressure not because of declining quality

less domestic consumption

young europeans still drink wine, mostly domestic ones
US domestic demand is back to ~2013 levels, trend is shrinking

no strict origin protections in the US

so way more competitive and sometimes scammy
EU has really strict wine region (and some quality) regulations
which makes the market more stable / predictable for wine makers

and the biggest one

climate change

some regions will really profit, like most wine regions in Germany with sunnier and warmer weather
some will / are already in decline, like parts of Spain or California

I heard American coffee is pretty good

wine regions in Germany with sunnier and warmer weather

in the middle ages even southern england was a wine region

Champagne producers are now buying land in the UK as it has the climate of the Champagne region 300 years ago. Denmark next. In 30 years Swedish wines will be a thing.

not because of declining quality

American wines have fared poorly at international wine competitions over the past years. Australia has completely eclipsed the US

How bad is the US doing and how good is Australia doing?

US competing with France, Italy and Spain in winemaking

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Even in Poland, wine production is increasing as I'm seeing myself grape vines of various strains faring better and better every year. Recently, even watermelons started to grow properly.

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Decanter Awards, biggest wine tasting competition hosted in the UK. Each year more than 17K wines from all over the world are blind tasted, and only the 50 that get the best average grade from the judge panel get a "Best in Show" award.

These are the 5 past years results:

France: 57

Italy: 37

Spain: 33

Australia: 32

Portugal: 16

Argentina: 10

South Africa: 8

New Zealand: 8

United States: 8

Germany: 6

United Kingdom: 6

Greece: 5

Chile: 5

Switzerland: 4

Hungary: 3

Austria: 3

Georgia: 2

Moldova: 2

Canada: 2

Japan: 1

Slovenia: 1

Serbia: 1

Australia is catching up to the big guys and is as of now one of the best winemaking country in the world, in the same breath as Spain. The United States are competing with Germany, the UK and New Zealand to stay in the top 10. Now keep in mind the US is the 4th biggest producer of wine per volume in the world.

wine pants themselves are pretty resilient
you can grow and make wine in a lot of place
but wine from most places will also taste like barfed up shit, so...

also wine in the middle ages was typically drunk diluted with water
drinking straight up ~12%.alc wine is pretty modern

i meant that they thin out not because of bad quality but because of overproduction

their wine is bad either way
but more aggressive thinning could improve quality - just not their priority

No one gives a fuck about American wine, including Americans. In general booze is falling out of favor with younger generations even in Europe. Narkets like France, Spain, Italy, German are always going to favor local wines and the same for other European nations drinking brands of beer like heiniken or carlesberg or Guniness, the same for spirits people wat Irish and Scotch whiskey French Calvidos, Portugese Port.

America needs to sit down and think about why they add titanium dioxide in foods for children before they try exporting posion, let alone actually suceed as an exporter of quality food and drink. European beef is not produced by injecting cattle with growth hormones as in the USA. People don;t trust food and drink from the USA and UK due to the amount of disease and additives and GMO rampant in both. Its actually amazing people sit down in America and go
"I have a great idea lets export wine and cheese to france!" Why the fuck do the french want an inferior product that has additional shipping and logistics costs? Its nothing to do with tariffs or being 'unfair'. If people in the US wantt o drink piss like Bud Lite and give their kids candy laced with titanium dioxide fine but don't scream like toddlers because other nations go no thanks. Feel free to cover the US with genetically modified plants but Europe has every right to go no thanks. Monsanto can fuck off. The American perception of what is 'unfair' should be directed back to what is 'unfair' on their own children and young people who have soaring levels of bowel cancers. Even simple once good chains like McDonalds deliver tiny portions of shit food in a dirty dangerous enviroments by staff who don't speak the same languages and despise the customers in Europe. I am old enough to remember when McDonalds was actually clean, safe for kids and quite good value and enjoyable. America exports in food and drink are failing because they are poor quality and poor delivery and value

droughts, they're currently chimping out at Mexico because they need water, after tariffing them. Fun part is even if Mexico agreed they don't have enough water.

France: 57

frogs frogs frooooogs

For reference this is the Okanagan in Canada which gets down to -30C yet still has a wine industry.

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Buying American wines in Europe? LMAO

The "greatness" of American wine is measured in carbon footprints, not flavor—a violent performance of petro-masculinity.

Tariffs weaponize neoliberal scarcity to privilege bourgeois ‘organic’ aesthetics while BIPOC farmworkers inhale pesticides for $7.25/hour.

The **carceral logics** of tariffs criminalize solidarity with Palestinian vineyards bombed by U.S.-funded apartheid.

Trump’s tariffs reinscribe **cisheteropatriarchal capitalism** by fetishizing American exceptionalism, erasing the migrant femmes of color whose exploited labor sustains Napa’s vineyards.

The EU’s **earthbound solidarity** in climate policy shames America’s fracking-fueled vineyards, where profit eclipses **queer ecological futurity**.

Trump’s tariffs are pinkwashing imperialism—diverting attention from ICE raids that displace Latina femmes working California’s fields.

Trump’s "great again" is a HETERONORMATIVE DEATH DRIVE—austerity for the marginalized, champagne socialism for the settler elite.

American viticulture’s "revival" relies on NEURODIVERGENT EXPLOITATION—corporate vineyards profit while autistic pickers endure sensory violence.

This is cope. Just use lambrusco grapes, as it should be for the whole of Americas.

the problem US wines face is that most wine drinkers just go by region/grape
if they drink a bottle of wine labeled as Californian and it's swill. Their perception of all Californian wines goes down. So after a few bottles of swill they simply won't buy those wines any more.
As already pointed out the US doesn't have strict wine region regulations or standards. So you get more swill wines that get into general circulation and thus people giving up on Californian wines in general.
having a new boom region isn't going to fix it (altough there are some regions that could make some killer wines in the US) because the swill tankers will just follow.
all tariffs will do is push Australian and south american wines more. But wine drinker in general have the money to pay a dollar or two more on a bottle and will do so. If anything tariffs will give European wines a bit of a more high end "I can afford it" image. I'd bet my left nut that's what the The Comité Champagne are planning right now.

wow an actual bot above, just like in the memes
mods should close this thread
as a winemaker it insults me
so much nonsense per sq meter

Anything with a substantial amount of labrusca genes tastes like labrusca and consumers don't particularly like it.
Not going to look it up but I can't imagine concord grape wine being the most consumed US grape wine.
Maybe there's a market amongst furries. Tastes like their stunted childhood and what you can tell them is "foxes".
Million dollar idea right there, Anon Babble.

If people are used to French and Italian Wine then a 20% tariff probably wouldn't put them off. 10% won't. People tend to like their brands and if pushed will just drink less often.

What about 100%

Again?
California already makes superior wine than France or Italy. They literally lost in several blind tasting contest with European judges.

California already makes superior wine than France or Italy.

lol lmao cope seethe dilate

fails to be chique the most advertised american wine in my euro country has snoop doggs face on it and costs 2,5€ looks like trash

argentinian, chilean, aussie and south african wines are better

French can keep their wine and whine about it.

US winemaking has fallen off a cliff because you produce a vast amount of slop and a little amount of decent wines. You're barely competing with South Africa, forget the big dogs like Italy or France

American wines are very hard to find here

That would just give french wine "this is expensive so it must be good" -aura, sort of like apple crap has in electronics.