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China nuking the yield tonight

I am hit by paralysis because on the one hand I feel like the markets will still go lower but on the other hand I don't trust this admin

To the bonds guy: it was the nips

I keep typing baka instead of smg in the catalogue search

No! I wanted the destruction of anime.
Will Japan no longer be under economic pressure or will there still be some?

DID THE MEDICINE WORK?

tread with ... caution!

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The trade war is hotting up. It'll be interesting to see what tomorrow brings. Any predictions?

Fake and gay market, fake and gay green dildo. At least I put some of my capitulationbux into MSTR instead of going all in on shorts. Leveraged ETFs, never again.

Good time to buy bonds

anyone who bought deep otm 0dte spy calls is up over %2000

Based japs saving america.
I will buy one- no, TWO Nintendo switch2 as form of gratitude

Europoors and Chinese looking at America dominate them once again

Funny how all they needed to do was play ball for 5 days. Independence day was independence from those that wanted to use the US, and they got revealed

B-BUT HE KEKED!

then explain why China is at a now 125% and expanding tariff while Europe's tariffs stayed? You got played by Trump of all people and you will suffer life the bitches that you are. Japan number 1

Zero chance of double tapping that low. Don't sell your dip buying early.

I had a too slow and too safe DCA strategy for this dip and only managed to get 1 buy order done during the down turn, next one was planned for friday. I feel sick to my stomach for missing out on the upside. I wonder how bears must feel right now who actually shorted the bottom.

this was literally

we were only pretending.jpg

except they weren't pretending: reality forced them to retract.
of course trumptards keep celebrating

the next move will be picrel

and the narrative will keep being

we are the victims

china bad

art of the deal

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I don't understand Goldman's recession thing. The 104% China tariffs are still in effect TODAY.

Bitter pill that Europe and China were working together, but a pill that was going to be taken anyway

just keep a tight stoploss

25% up today, chud.

So
Where is the manufacturing

did the madlad wait until europe was closed before doing the announcement?

the orange jew fears the samurai

you better pump nikkei tomorrow burgerbros OR ELSE

I predict another day at the circus

so let me get this right
trump creates a massive loss in stocks, and then japan cucks him and he pauses the tariffs, and now republicans are celebrating all-green because the stocks are...back to where they were a week ago? how is this a win? it feels like all its done is show how cucked the us economy is on bonds and that any country can pull and trump has to abide

That was the biggest green candle dick on the daily chart since 2001

They are hoping Donald folds again

Bears got giga fucked in a way only rivaled by the COVID pump

How long before we start seeing the inflationary effects?

art of the deal

If you are the Federal Reserve Chairman
Honorable Jerome Hayden Powell
What the fuck do you even do in this situation?

It's like trying to play poker with a psychotic naked meth addict with rabies and diarrhea

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art of the deal

Cope

H-HE WAS FORCED TO

MY SOURCE IS THAT IT WAS REAL TO ME

cope, you got bamboozled by a bamboozle. Europe and China did too

If you missed the slurp because you were too busy seething on Anon Babble you are the retard.

Just wait.

It actually feels like he did that just to fuck with wall street bears while devastating main street.

Your president told you to buy and you didn't listen. Why?! Does Anon Babble like missing the boat?

T-THIS PUMP WON'T CONTINUE!!

cope, we are in the golden bull run now

You can still sip

depending on inflation either keep rates the same or raise them
what's trump going to do? fire him? he'll be gone soon regardless and it would nuke the markets harder than this shitshow

don uses ieepa to prevent China selling US securities under the guise of "getting even"

Christ, it's definitely possible. That's a nightmare scenario to even think of

It's like trying to play poker with a psychotic naked meth addict with rabies and diarrhea

You know the answer. The only winning move is not to play, so he gonna do exactly that.

what's actually the point of the tariffs? i don't think he'd actually want 10% tariffs on everyone, and an effective embargo on china. that's just ridiculous and would fuck shit up for us in a bad way.

what was the original reason? the narrative was that there was some "unfair" trade with literally every country on earth, but that isn't true.

i'm trying to understand what he's after. what is a good outcome? what does success look like to Trump?

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Never sell dip buying unless you're a retard and actually need the money short term

art of the deal

TRUMP: IT IS STILL ON THE TABLE

TRUMP: WILL HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH CHINA ON TIKTOK DEAL

They only see that Trump respond to the market
Thats enough for them

translation -

I missed out on the massive pump because I was locked in spamming Anon Babble with ActBlue talking points

Just wait* (*oh god if I do something my ass is done)

The stock market is a device for transferring money from the impatient to the patient

He's literally a tsundere
I finally understand Trump

small rate drop to give him a win without wrecking your strategy

yes -_- it's going to be all fucking weird at opening again tomorrow

im gonna start trading with only 100 bucks
lets see how this goes

device for transferring money from the impatient to the patient

*to the insider

Manufacture, unfair deal, negotiations, deficit, china bad, free money
Depends on the day, it rotate

It was a political move to reveal those who are actually close to china. Only the EU was stupid enough to reveal themselves, and China was stupid enough to give Trump the excuse he wanted to have high by tariffs on them specifically

when the fuck are the pharma tariffs being announced, if ever?

and now republicans are celebrating all-green because the stocks are...back to where they were a week ago

Trump has drawn a line in the sand. You are either subservient to the US empire, or you will be punished. He is waving a gun around in a crowded room, and shows he is crazy enough to fire.

This was a show of force. Over the next 90 days, expect new agreements to whittle down the 10% tariffs to something reasonable, in exchange for cooperating with the economic isolation of China. Previously, countries were openly talking about dedollarization and the multi-polar world. This is an attempt to reverse that trend, and start bleeding China using remaining American leverage.

Will it work? Or will this actually cause a flight into BRICS? Good question, but this is the play.

retards here we're going crazy and screaming and ranting and raving

suddenly we're up in one of the biggest days in years

This place got invaded by reddit I guess

POV: You are an American BVLL taking home your Chinese mail-order bride after bankrupting Xi

Always has been

Dollar hegemony relies on having a trade deficit and being able to print fake green paper. Trump's trying to have the cake and eat it

Yeah but I'm starting to realize that being too patient is also kinda bad and when the VIX is at 40+ you better not take too long to get your money into the market.

Only complete fucking retards are all in day trading, bozo. This shit is all a blip.

WHERE IS THE FOOT ONE???
I KNOW YOU HAVE IT
GIVE IT TO ME

You just paid double for her?

It's just a tax that will bring in more money (from US consumers) to the federal government. Money, which Trump hints could be used to offset income tax. Tariffs are paid by the importer. But a lot of companies, e.g., in the EU, have been built on exports to US, so obviously its also in the EU's interest to protect those businesses by negotiating deals. US tariffs would not directly hurt EU consumers. Indirectly, probably.

back to where they were a week ago? how is this a win?

It's a win for republican politicians because they knew about 90 day thing a week ago. There is a reason that shit leaked into press few days ago, and slurping power was so strong whole week.
Republican party take whole country for a ride with insider trading on self-manufactured crisis. No refunds.

art of the deal

It's all pure retardation and the circus isn't over yet. Some of the tariffs are still on and the nuclear tariffs are delayed but everyone knows he'll just cuck out now. And don't ask about the manufacturing jobs.

This turmoil is starting to make me think about regretting voting for trump.

I just want to find the bottom so I can finally buy in and forget about it

yeah but we can't actually endure tariffs that high on china. we are reliant on them for manufacturing, and it would take a long time (read: decades) and a lot of suffering to make us not reliant on them. so what is the point?

if the goal was to disconnect from chinese reliance, the we should have gotten the memo in 2020 but now it's 5 years later and we're in the same place.

He is waving a gun around in a crowded room, and shows he is crazy enough to fire.

This was a show of force. Over the next 90 days, expect new agreements to whittle down the 10% tariffs to something reasonable, in exchange for cooperating with the economic isolation of China. Previously, countries were openly talking about dedollarization and the multi-polar world. This is an attempt to reverse that trend, and start bleeding China using remaining American leverage.

THIS. I expect Anon Babble to be filled with "T-TRUMP KEKED ON X" cope from Europeans and Chinese shills as Trump reveals his real goals. All of this was mad dog strategy

Japan is literally in DC as we speak. It would be interesting if a deal could be hammered out this evening but I doubt it will happen that fast

kek

Today's posters have been pretty retarded even by Anon Babble standards.

How much will YANG go up when China's markets open?

I wish I could buy some...

Japan is considering giving every resident a stimulus check of 50000 yen.

Trump literally showed his hand to the world, just threaten the bond market and the banks in the middle of the night
China owns the 2nd most debt, whose to say Xi doesn't turn on the faucet

this bald old bitch hasn't lived my reality

Retail investors also bought this dip in record numbers. You don't need insider information to know that it's probably a good time to start buying when we're in extreme fear and the VIX is spiking to 50+.

intel rumour about tsmc partnership

stock pumps

NOO IT WAS FAKE NEWS

stock dumps

fast forward a few days

"yeah we are doing the tsmc deal"

stock pumps again

Spy did the same thing, I guess ill watch out for false rumours because theyre probably fucking true

bought the dip

but didn't buy it hard enough so I'm almost back to break even

Feels batman

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We need a multipolar world. USA, EU, China, Russia, maybe Brazil/India in the southern hemisphere. A sole super power approach used to work but the world has moved beyond that. I was hoping trump would see it through and maybe he still will

Shit is gonna crab all week now
Party is over boys

he's trying to bait the chinese into dumb their bonds

China stocks are up to day. The rally is 100% because of Trump's weak hands.

forgot to buy today

it pumps

if you are one of the retail investors who bought apple during this dip you are a retard

How many elections do you have to lose before you'll realize demoralization doesn't work anymore?

I'm just glad all of the libshit tourists got their lunch eaten. Absolutely shitted up this thread the past few weeks

Fucking with the yield is not a good thing

just take the DCA pill bro
its nearly impossible to time the market under the best circumstances, let alone this clown show

Charts, streams, screeners... beautiful. But while y’all paint lines and dream golden bull runs, Worldcoin’s sketching the foundation of the AI-proof internet. Proof of human = the real masterpiece. No World ID? You’re still in the sketch phase, fren.

Previously, countries were openly talking about dedollarization and the multi-polar world.

he caused that

if the world is forced to choose between the US and China, I think it will choose the US

powell has to watch trumps shitposting on truth social

Blame the absolute utter FAGGOTS on wall street bets on plebbit. They shepherded plebbitors here en masse. I’m happy to see them get utterly raped today too. They’ll stay away from the markets and biz forever now

It's all insider trading bullshit bros

he needs to do nothing it seems to be the only way of matching drumpfs genius. maybe make that face kamala made during the debate

Does anyone have that updated chart? It's a bit old, and I read China unloaded quite a bit in the recent years.

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i forget that wall street bets is super big until my friend was talking about it at work, were they on the short train too?

He is waving a gun around in a crowded room, and shows he is crazy enough to fire.

following that analogy, everyone's gonna put some good distance between them and the retard with a gat. that's the inevitable outcome here.

I'm doing just fine. I admit Trump got me to sell some stuff but my gains easily made up for my minor losses.

Maybe last year, after this shitshow less people will opt for any of them.

delusional
YINN has been pumping since yesterday and china futures are up

offset income tax with what is effectively a sales tax

extremely regressive, will increase inequality & destroy social mobility even further

they gave u literally 3 days to sell yang
i did on monday switched to yinn already
why are you too late

Is there a reason to trade anything else but spy? Other stocks basically mimic spy daily chart

Anon I...
Libshits support free trade. That's arguably the defining economic trait of liberalism. Pausing tariffs is what they want.
I am begging you to open a textbook.

Nigga even BABA is up. AMZN is up. AAPL is up. TSLA is up. All with huge China exposure. Do with the information as you see fit.

It’s been completely taken over by casuals on plebbit. It’s 100% not what it was

b-b-but we owned the libs guys

Holy MIGA cope.

then he gets paid under the table and no one says or does anything

bought Leberkäs

got Leberkäs

should've ordered Falscher Hase, silly yank.

They will choose the US

Trump is too unstable and so is US democracy China won't pull shir like this

WE HAVE POWERFUL WEAPONS

Largest trading partner and world manufacturer tariffed 100%, bonds rising, leadership looks erratic, 90 days of uncertainty.
I just took losses today the Anon Babble crowd would of suicided over. Sold all shorts and moving into VOO. If it crashes great, if it pumps, good.
t. Down 900k this month, 300k I won’t even see back if the market recovers. Just man up, move on, look for the next opportunity. We have 3 years 11 months of this. Something will click brother.

tfw holding onto TSM because I want my one dollar dividend wasn’t an awful decision
still down 50% from being reckless with puts

kek what a fucking stressful job, good luck based jpow

how long for fear/greed to rebalance? I will now simply sell when it's greedy and buy when it's fearful

gets folded by a japanese bank

Bold to assume Trump cares about that

I guess you’re right, I might wait a week and see though. I’m just worried about us going depression levels after I buy but it won’t matter decades down the line if I’m patient enough I suppose

Genuinely asking, what would happen if China decided to stop all exports into the US for, let's say, 2 weeks. What would happen?

4d chess

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we have to be cool

American businessmen wouldn't trust China also you would likely see shortages of key supplies

Well that makes me feel better about my massive losses today. Down ~250k or so. I was beating the market handily until this market manipulation bullshit.

damn bro you are real as hell and i am in awe

not really an option
maybe it will remind them that we're playing to win, but it's all just business

I mean he killed himself because of his crazy equivalent of a President…

They need to do it for more than 2 weeks to have a meaningful impact and stock to end.

kek
thank god for japbros and their tard wrangling skills
free market is back on the menu, boyos

THANK YOU FOR PLAYING
GG WELL PLAYED

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Yeah totally bro

kek

The Monkeys Are Howling.

The Birds Are Screaming.

The Baboons Are Raping.

The Hidden Tigers Lurk On The Savannah

The Hyenas Keep Gangraping

Look At VVIX.

probably actual deaths since they export more important shit like pharmaceutical precursors / equipment than people realize

market manipulation

lmfaoooooooooooooooooo

So what is Trump trade war record at now

0-4

0-5

This retard hasn't done shit

My portfolio is now green, feels good man

God bless the USA

I bought SOXL 12.50 puts
How fucked am I

told you faggots about 550 EOD, stay poor bobos

after all this chaos though, you can see how he bankrupts shit all the time and people just remember the panache

China is now isolated

How?? Their relationship with other countries hasn't changed at all. Nothing has happened to them.

They are getting hit with 125 percent plus that 25 and on top of parts for car at 25 next month and another 125 right now intrested how Americans will survive

Thanks Anon, I needed that today. Still, we are all going to make it.

Just gonna shove everything in spxl for the next year and hope it works out

Yeah is business and this little move means they wont invest in US as much again because they can go stupid anythime. Same shit as what happened with china.
Or at least until don is gone. Most people will delay and reduce to some degree their operation on america. Just like how china was a trap for investors the sentiment will be the same for us right now.

China stock are up, and now they get to route their products through other countries.

You see America proving its a sperg with increasingly retarded leaders will magically now demand the world side with it over China

China will just ship through other countries. And where they can't the end consumer will foot the bill (the alternative is DEATH!).

Unironically easier being America's rival than its friend.

Oh right china can use orher countries as proxy now.
I think thatt is why fears of recesion will diminish.

Yeah is business and this little move means they wont invest in US as much again because they can go stupid anythime.

The goal will be to cripple China to the point that there is no alternative. It doesn't matter how stupid the American game is if there is no other game in town.

holy shit china is mooning
YINN bros we're eating good tomorrow

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trumpbots are out in full force atm

The guy eliminated our trade deficit, brought back domestic manufacturing and punished disrespect in 4 days. Give the man his kudos.

The colossus that bestrode the world! The rock against which the hordes of Asia dashed themselves in vain! He thought how ten minutes ago -- yes, only ten minutes -- there had still been equivocation in his heart as he wondered whether the news from the front would be of victory or defeat. Ah, it was more than a Eurasian army that had perished! Much had changed in him since that first day in the Ministry of Love, but the final, indispensable, healing change had never happened, until this moment.

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Trump didn't know about the EU Tariffs

Holy shit lol what a actual cuck

So what's next? Trump reversed his shit except with China which might reverse too and all of this was for nothing and then we pump 10% more and continue crabbing the whole year?

Im making a killing on calls but i dont think this poomp lasts. 8% intraday swings on spy after dipping into a bear market is a bad sign, not a good sign. Convince me im wrong
And yes, i sold half of these at close

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Trump just said no new china tariffs and he wants to negotiate and meet with xi so makes sense

Some *important* clarification on Mexico and Canada tariffs from a White House official. Seems like Secretary Bessent perhaps misspoke:
- Fentanyl tariffs on Canada and Mexico remain unchanged: USMCA trade is tariff-free, non-USMCA trade is tariffed at 25% (except for energy and potash at 10% tariffs)
- The baseline 10% tariffs did not go into effect on Canada and Mexico on April 5, and neither country is getting the 10% baseline now

Germany and Canada literally got closer to China due to this fiasco
Trump destroyed America's reputation as a stable, reliable partner. China in contrast seems so much more reliable
Just because your portfolio shows green today doesn't mean inflation is not coming or countries trust us all of a sudden
Besides this is a 3 month pause. If he doesnt surrenders again in 3 months, the markets will tank again
But by then we will start feeling the effects of 100+% tariffs on China and inflation, so it may be even worse than it is now
MIGAtard idiots

cripple

Well good luck with that.

The world is a crowded room, what you gonna go to some new landmass with no neighbors?

WE ARE EATING FUCKING GOOD

Lets not forget that we lost some rate cuts for all this bullshit.

Isn't almost all trade with Canada under the USMCA

A key forgotten point:

China never increased tariffs to random countries, only against the US, whilst the US increased all tariffs

China has lower tariffs than the US now

multiple countries are retaliating and closing the door on their side against the US

Trump says he will bomb Iran

Let's go oil bros

I would cut rates

is it over did trump fix the economy?

China in contrast seems so much more reliable

This is still wrong, despite this fiasco

Your getting them later this year kf you and the market behaves

wtf

people that dont trade stocks are unironically like

wow this is the biggest pump since... 2008

this is a good thing

do people literally not understand volatility? they didnt understand tariffs either so i guess not

He only paused the reciprocal tarrifs, he still got the 10% baseline which is what he really wanted

Interesting to see now how the Asian markets react, maybe other than China

I think Europe finna explode (upwards)

all it took was a japanese bank failing for the progress to be undone

Rumao

This is still wrong

Nigger the regime doesn't change every 4 years in America it does and as it stands they don't do epic shit like mass Tariffs on everyone with schizophrenic policy

That is the intent. Will it work? That's anybody's guess. The question is, how exactly does Trump plan to use the 10% tariffs as leverage for convincing other countries to help hurt China? What leverage do they have over China at all in the first place? Where is China weakest right now?

Additionally, now China knows the plan. What do they do, knowing they are the main target of all of this? Was the Bond Market a legitimate weakpoint they can now target? Etc. The next 90 days are very crucial in the multi-polar world saga.

67 (sixty seven) point SPY monthly tail wick

Compared to the current administration?

nobody cares

It will happen when the weather cools. That's when they'll make their move. The plans laid long ago, before the founding of America, and older still, will come to fruition. They're trying to force the gods' hands.
Watch for these signs:

Three branches will become one

An island will drift away

A killing bolt will shine in the night but will not kill

A star will gorge itself on clay

Idols will speak and move about

The black flag will fly above the dome

The belly of the dragon will drip water

Two voices will call out in a silence that all will hear

A rock will stand on seven hills

The ravens will starve

The bear will leave her cage forever

The rod and the ring will strike

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How much will Japan pay for this backstab?

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Interesting to see now how the Asian markets react

nikkei futures are 10% up kek

Anyone In trump circle is going to e a billionaire before years end

yeah honestly the fuck what this? never seen a government act like this, trade will continue but everyone lost trust in the USA

As long as they hold the bonds they will get Scott free and maybe will buy more chiken or some dumb shit from us.

we don't really have an option when china tries to big dog us
trump may be taking a more aggressive stance, but this was the general trend of US policy

anyway, even with the tariffs we're a better business environment than China (more capital, more willing to extend credit with good terms, bigger consumer market, less risk averse, less likely to steal your IP, and a whole host of other reasons)

Nothing because Jypan and Chyna nay dump bonds even more and this faggot will end up like Pol Pot

cut my loses and buy back in tomorrow or is there another a dip coming?

destroys 10 trillion in stock market

EHHHHHH HEH HEH HEH HEH! Just joshin!!!

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The entire move today occurred within a 5 minute windows, humans can't compete with that lol

Probably not at all. They might even get concessions like sexual harrassment training in Okinawan military bases if they agree to making more noise about the Sea of Japan and generally being a headache to China.

yes it is fixed now

you don't have the cards anymore burgerboy

look at this fucking retard

Everybody loves us. You want to be us. You came begging for us to drop the tariffs, groveling like the pathetic non-American you are.

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Gets trillions for himself and his inner circle by pumping and dumping stock and crypto

Yeah that's my opinion as long as Trump is president no one will trade with America since he's

unreliable

erratic

unstable

That's the issue

Volatility is down though.

All that advantage went out the window if the country can tariff all good for 30% put of nowhere. This is what you need to understand. They are as bad as chinanright now.

fuck I love my country
we literally just win over and over again

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

Im so demotivated bros..... i completely botched today....i shouldnt be -13%

buy big tech companies like nvidia and palantir to get more control over buying dips but still invest most of your money into QQQ or SPY

Holy absolute fuck. I cannot believe my port went from being down 60 percent to being up 400 percent on nothing but rddt calls.
Betting on Donny being a retard always
wins

Short manufacturing companies, the tariffs aren't permanent so they won't invest.

If you bought 10k of spy 540c you would have over a million in ur port right now

it's real

seems to be full of botted responses. or are americans lower IQ than AI bots?

And yet you're trading ideas on an American message board. Curious.

PR moment they were shilling Navvarro OPED
You literally just gave everyone 10 percent Tariffs and threatened entire economies

you'll get it next time big dawg

can anyone confirm this isn't what happened this time around too

flag of Yugoslavia

unironically what did they mean by this

yeah. long term im banking on multiple contraction in US firms over the next couple years and just hanging onto solid gold bars till europe chills out at the low because of the potential bond market crash this year

Yeah I'm not touching US markets the entire presidency, it's pure schizo casino hours where the robots who trade headlines win.

bill ACK! man

yeah sure buddy
he single handedly managed to create a worldwide anti-american sentiment, and even leaders who were trump leaning are starting to distance themselves, he is pushing countries to seeks their own digital services solutions and armament to not be as dependent on USA

Subservient to the American empire

The EU did not change their "tariffs" at all, they did not bend the knee.

Well... I previously dug out of a $28k hole
Let's see if I can do $42k

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The tariff on china is gonna be like to 25% in like a week
What i dont get is trump has admitted he likes xi
So why is trump being such a fag

Literally this as well why invest in this America

American

This site is owned by Japs I thank the Nippons for saving us and giving me free speech

I WAS FUCKING WORKING. AT LEAST GIVE ME A FUCKING DAY.

when volatility is volatile you know that everything is well and truly fucked

Literally this as well why invest in this America

Why would you invest when if the tariffs actually go through you can't sell anything manufactured here anywhere else?

Yes that's my Opinion Trump is retarded hes making everyone afraid of America

he said multiple times that you retard
Remember TSLA pump?

Both. Twitter is filled to the brim with bots and idiots.

I was about to kill myself but I didn't! I won!

Yeah I guess so.

You literally just gave everyone 10 percent Tariffs and threatened entire economies

Stay salty, bitch

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, he is pushing countries to seeks their own digital services solutions and armament to not be as dependent on USA

And you love to see it, down with the great satan

The tariffs went into effect last night at 104%.

they should just kiss each other on national tv at this point

Because he's seething at them

cucking him out of Tik tok now

Wants PR win

China hawks are hoping to eat good

China isn't bending the knee he blames them for the crash since they retaliated despite his orders not to

the regime doesn't change every 4 years

china stagnating under xi is not the boon you're presenting it as

vix 30+

vol down

lel

this is why I dip buy dividend yielding stocks, regardless if we moon them bust I still got height yielding stocks for cheap I don't plan to sell

some racist boomer schizo warhawk in DC genuinely believes in zero sum world

Intentionally manipulating interconnected markets

Show you can't be trusted

Less investment in USA markets

Less US investment allowed in foreign markets

Protections in place in foreign markets to inhibit further US manipulation

This is heading for depression whether you like it or not.

do nothing

only down 5% for the entire year

stay salty bitch

I see why the Iranians chant death to America your up there with the jews
I'm reffering to stability Trump is a retarded mong China generally won't do something like he suggested

it went down so i sold

it kept going down so i shorted

now its going back up

what did i do wrong?

Treasury Secretary Bessent just revealed that President Trump laid a trap and China fell into it.

"This was driven by the president's strategy... You might even say that he goaded China into a bad position. They responded. They have shown themselves to the world to be the bad actors, and we are willing to cooperate with our allies and with our trading partners who did not retaliate."

"It wasn't a hard message. Don't retaliate. Things will turn out well."

China screwed up badly.

So EVERYTHING they said about bringing jobs back, the trading deficit and all that was just a lie?
They threatened all their trading partners to 'trick' china and china is the ones that "have shown themselves to the world to be the bad actors"?

trump flinging shit onto the walls like a psycho is really distracting people from xi's mao larp strangling china over the past decade

Everything I did as well

he goaded China into a bad position. They responded. They have shown themselves to the world to be the bad actors

bond yields still at 4.3%

Bad actors

Didn't this retard impose Tariffs on everyone then proceeded to bitch out

US is as unreliable as china for entirely sifferent reasons right now.
That is the point.

nvidia moved half a trillion up, because of trump tweeting

tell me how the market represents reality in any way

Why is every thread crying about Trump?

And its been changing every 4-8 years in america since its conception, and line has gone up. What retarded point were you trying to make?
Yes, despite the trump fiascos, businesses would still prefer to end up in an american court where there is an expectation of at least the facade of the rule of law, as opposed to a chink court, where everyone knows the chinese will fuck anyone to promote china, despite whatever “laws” exist in china

the markets fine actually its good actually we're winning and made in USA maga hats exports will market cap at 20 tril

t. the retards

Yeah ill be honest I don't get why were trying to fuck china over, they literally are killing themselves, they have so many societal crisises its insane

Go move to Tehran then bitch

China has shown themselves to be bad actors

When it was Trump who started the whole tariff nonsense

This is literally Jew logic. America has learned from their masters.

It's going to grow lol China will be dumping big tonight

Ameirca has been changing every 4 to 8 years

Yes but not into retarded mongs and sometimes completely 180 policy look at Russia or Iran under Trump vs Obama/Biden it's completely different

They have shown themselves to the world to be the bad actors

lol

we are willing to cooperate with our allies and with our trading partners who did not retaliate

lmao

I like how hes doing the I ONLY PRETENDES TO BE RETARDED ACT and but fucking caves because t bill dumps were making yields skyrocket

Non-Americans buying US stocks should be rounded up and shot as traitors.

Stocks are up so it isnt that nuch of an issue.
If shit dumps and bond rises then yeah we are gonna see Donald become an origami crane with so much folding.

"This was driven by the president's strategy... You might even say that he goaded China into a bad position. They responded. They have shown themselves to the world to be the bad actors, and we are willing to cooperate with our allies and with our trading partners who did not retaliate."

This is the most delusional cope I've ever fucking seen.
Literally "we were just pretending to be retarded".
How the FUCK does China look like the bad faith actor to anyone with functioning braincells in this situation?
Am I just going crazy? Am I living in some alternative reality where up is down? I can't believe all these troglodytes praising this.

Because that's what those posters came here to do in the first place
sky didn't fall for 3 days straight like they said it would, and now their chink masters are under fire
this is probably the single worst year for globalist lefties in living memory

The markets represent the memetic evaluation of a stock. One sentence from someone powerful can manipulate a stock up and down, by breaking or creating memetic valuation bubbles.
Normally this is illegal, but Trump has noone to stop him as the court ruled him immune.

is it just sentiment analysis?
did some AI read trump's social media and determine it's going to pump?

Thanks for playing.

Iran out of nowhere

brainwashed zogbot

I think what people don't realize is that the tariffs only apply to vessels that left port today, 4/9, or later. Meaning everything already in transit is not affected.

It takes two months for a container ship to travel from China to the US. And it'll take warehouses another 2 months to burn through their current inventory. So we've got 4 months before we even start to notice the tariffs effect on the economy. There is no way in hell that the 125% rate is still going to be on China in 4 months. Even if China does literally nothing, Trump will bend the knee before then.

So is this the ultimate fun money glitch loophole?
I just wait for trump to announce tarriffs, let it drop, buy, then he removes tarriff?
And we get to do this for 4 years?
How much money are we gonna make bros

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Art of the deal.

kek trannie redditors hows orange Wednesday?

he cost me money and im peaved, don't need to get so political cunt

Why is everyone pissed at blatant market manipulation and straight up retarded policy that would get someone fired or landed in jail.

nothingburger

Half of the posters are seething tourists with TDS

What about shit like this happening last month

here's the one simple trick they don't want you to know!

My BABA's going to recover right? Right?

It's for the shills and MIGA crowd

We owned China lol

It was walked back in a day

it only really works a few times before everybody stops taking you seriously
next time he announces tariffs the markets won't drop nearly as much because everybody knows he will cuck out

Explain to me then how when I order shit from a Chinese manufacturer it takes them 2 weeks to ship with FedEx

You do realise the market will just bail from an environment where they are being manipulated into losing money.

Fuck I thought he would keep this retard game for longer.
Only made 12k today. Should've bought more.

The fuck are you talking about, it pumped 6% today, 3% more afterhours

I believe Temu and shit airmails it

Problem is that now the bots will pick up on this and it'll be too late by the time you find out

Air travel?

Sure, I had fun

No you're wrong, it will drop, it just won't go back up, it'll slowly lower as people sell highs and exit the market, leading to less market cap but similar prices.

see you in 3 years when the spx is 7500

US facing businesses in China usually ship via air, because customers don't want to wait 2 months for a container ship to slowly waddle its ass across the pacific. But air shipments make up a tiny minority of the goods we import from China.

trump presidencies are full of money making opportunities

nvm I just realized that it says it's @ JFK

People won't pull out then

I'm down 50%...

there are businesses that literally had to consider closing down forever or firing most of their staff because they saw their tariff bills

This volatility is fucked

lmao

Not touching your schizo shit sorry. Neither will the world.

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"Xi is a smart guy and we'll end up making a very good deal," Trump continues.

He says: "Xi is a man who knows exactly what has to be done, he loves his country".

"We will get a phone call at some point and then it's off to the races," Trump says.

Hooooly shit this guy is cucking out so fucking hard

trump presidencies are full of money making opportunities

If you bought the dip from 610-560 you're still losing a lot
retard bro

dump bonds

huge capital outflows that we have to service with more debt at a higher yield

also have to issue bonds with the "Trump might just default on the debt" risk premium

Can't wait for the hyperinflation version of America.

The EU being so bureaucratically slow at everything played in their favor

Topkek. Kinda even applied "The Art of Doing Nothing" bestseller playbook.

Isnt this gonna happen again? I touggt he removed the duties limit again.

doesn't trade according to trump's signals

loses money

calls me a retard

i made more money buying trump's shitcoin and shorting the market than ever before

LoliKINGS win the final victory

Xi will be an adult and give Trump the "win"
I feel it in my veins

Kek, exactly my thoughts when I saw US tariff the whole world. It's too much, too retarded, too fast, it will blow over

how is that possible

trump presidencies are full of money making opportunities

Only if you selling fent.

Hell yeah
Literally just like me irl

What a cuck Xi won't kneel he's better off sending his own emissary

So basically everything will just keep going up. Tariffs canceled.

are you well America?

removes one hundred gorillion tariffs because China and Japan dumped some bonds

KWAB

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Anon, EU already retaliated. Why is everyone forgetting that?

It's still 10%.

wait, I just realized

we are willing to cooperate with our allies and with our trading partners who did not retaliate."

didn't the EU impose tariffs as retaliation? lmao

Xi will be an adult and give Trump the "win"

How? China has pretty low tariffs on US goods. Should he force thinks to buy American products at gunpoint?

Xi used to call me on my cell phone

Late-night when he need my a deal

Call me on my cell phone

Late-night when he need my a deal

leverage or options trades are a bitch

Donald is gonna fold and xi will concede something minor so Donald can brag about.
Trump doesnt want a repeat of today.
The Bill he had planned wont save from a recession. He needs a deal sooner than later. He will paint it as a win but at the end....the Jobs are not coming back and the trade deficit will remain.

they did not, only in response to earlier tariffs, not the blanket 20%

they're going to ignore that because it's not convenient

He was signaling the complete opposite until he got spooked by Bonds.

He cucked from 30 and might drop those 10 to lower by just showing some shitty deal. Is over.

I, a young person, desire change and chaos in some abstract way

I don't like Trump, and America's arrogant posturing is very annoying

I realise suddenly than lots of people feel the same way, we talk all day about how stupid everyone else is for sleepwalking into this, baffled

a horrible trap is sprung and Nothing Ever Happens, fundus are not safu

I'm going to get "I'm Not Special" tattooed on my hand so when I go to press buy I rember. The orange retard is a lesson

At least he didn't start any new wars, right? Right?

whats the point in making p/e sheets, calculating profit growth rates, listening to earnings calls, when twitter and truth social posts are what make the market crash or rally by trillions exclusively?

"the president's words (which are like a country wide earnings call) aren't really TRUE things that effect the market!"

Yes lol Lutnick tried to side step the question in the oval office

President Trump seemed surprised when a reporter informed him that the European Union had announced tariff increases on U.S. goods today to be effective

Not much a problem when everyone else have the same tariffs. Well no China get much more. This means euro products who have chinese competitors will sell more in the US. With 10% on everything it's just a taxe on americans consumers. They will still buy our wines and shit, they will still buy the switch 2 when it's out. If tariffs are unequals by a large margin then it's deloyal but now we just have to compete with american made products so we will be fine. Plus they will probably get lowered at some point.
What matters is eurostocks are up.

He showed everyone that he can fold, thats why the market is up

bent the knee to negotiate

His budget bill is still being stonewalled by the far right caucus

Literally got fucking owned at midnight by Japan ruining the 10 year and 30 year

Unironically one of the worst days of his 2 terms for his ego ever

Institute sweeping tariffs on every country we trade with and penguins we don't.

Double down by cutting rates

I'm looking forward to hyperinflation America.

Because US stock market reflects reality that exists only in imagination since 2008. This is why every crisis is so volatile, it's very much afraid to face reality and pop insane amount of bubbles, like housing and AI ones.
It's VIBE market. You need to VIBE with it.

Selling. Literally the only thing you did wrong. Everything else you just chalk up to the game.

If Trump queues up a truth social post to send one minute before euro market open saying that as a result of retaliation the tariffs will remain, I will chuckle

He has successfully shown that the world economy relies on whatever the fuck he says. Hail Trump.

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Still ok to buy becaue Europe will open green and push it further up or are we expecting a selloff again?

Its the other way around, he found out yesterday he doesnt have the leverage he expected

Whats the spy target for this month? 550?

the monday rally was pumped by some random guy on twitter with Bloomberg in his account name not the president
i just literally dont know how i can say anything about the profits of any company at any time anymore when everything is changing all the time and nothing makes sense.

It's not much him but the fact that he's at the helm of the biggest economy of the world...and still got folded by japbros holding him by the ballbonds

fundamentals are out
start thinking like a scumfuck rat bastard

in an american court where there is an expectation of at least the facade of the rule of law

You mean in the country allowing the president and his buddies to pump and dump the stock market like a shitcoin?

Good point.

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It was incredible realising that Greer was just a complete empty suit just ChatGPTing his way through responses to senators about their trade policy with no clue what was happening at all

rats jump off sinking ships

If EU doesn't pump on open something is stupid wrong.

the monday rally was pumped by some random guy on twitter with Bloomberg in his account name not the president

The thing is - he was correct about 90 days delay. It was insider information being spewed, White House had to deny it in MINUTES to avoid early bull run.
That thing about "Japan started to dump bonds, so Trump got scared" is retarded. This whole market movement this week was artificially created by Trump and his cronies to milk money from clueless market.
It's pretty normal for US politicians to engage in insider trading, after all.

It's also economic madman theory. The threat of tariffs cause people to make long term businesses decisions with that in mind, while not having to actually implement them wholesale.

Uh everyone was shitting their pants seeing the bond yield skyrocket
That causes overnight bank runs and credit literally collapsing like a house of cards
Our banking system is so fragile its not even funny

you don't actually think this is over, do you?

How do you know that the trump cabinet didn't see what that guy said and went "that's a good play, let's go with it".

it is a scumfuck rat bastard market after all. bulls, bears, crabs are all wrong. this is the time for rats.

I have no financial position in the market but I have some questions, especially after the wild ride of this past week. Is this entire stock market not just completely fake and vibes based? What's the point? Why not spend the money on real things like infrastructure and education. Is this whole system not going to unravel? Americans are getting dumber and poorer, you can't keep printing money, squeezing the workers and also having it all be based on a 100x long on the middle class.

im just moving my money to europe and try to play for profitability rather than having to check what everybody had for breakfast that morning to know if we're gonna enter the bear market or pump 10%. i made good money putting 20% of my portfolio onto european military and am just gonna keep shifting away from this circus.

I do, trump folded, insider market exposed
Its crab time

Everyone will settle with 10% and Xi and Trump will both make concessions

new thread?

trump folded

Wrong

no this is the last one. market's over.

but .......... but my calls

I dont think 10 would even remian.
Every deal is gonna be some shitty concesion and go back to how it was and the gov paint it as a win.

I'm starting to think that someone in the WH actually admitted to fucking up to the tariff rates as well as the effect the measures would have on shit like bond rates, and are now trying to save face.

FUCK TRUMP AND FUCK YOU BULLS

but manufacturing back to us? :(

why did we pump 10% today

I doubt 10 will settle, market expect deals or it will tank again

Wrong

Surely

Why not spend the money on real things like infrastructure and education.

This is why chinks may have their own century ahead. They build high speed trains while in US Elon Musk builds a fucking Hyperloop, a retarded car tunnel, all while sucking government money to do it.

Japan dumped a fat shit on Trump

They are trying to save rates since Trump assumed he was completely finnically safe but instead

Markets tanked

Bond yields went up

Uhh, just 36D chess bro. Trump never meant to bring back manufacturing you see.

we're all in the new smg haha you guys are still here

Not happening since Trump wants his cake and to eat it as well

Reminder that the US market was extremely overvalued even before this fiasco. We'll be back.

memes

You made me look, asshole

China has the option of dumping bonds

-_-

futures

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Jesus. You are a strong man. I kneel.

Covid wasn't a soap opera based around a single protagonist

Youre scaring me, what about them?

it felt like during covid you could actually pick winners from the chaos, like grabbing pharmaceuticals early. with this it's just timing swings

futures

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FUCK CHU MEAN CUH

I bought SOXL $9 puts
am i more fucked than you