US is a a service economy built on high-education jobs

i stopped cause i got on neetbux and college was gay and retarded

The revenge of the idiots cutting off their noses out of spite.

Kind of weird but... seriously, how does America work?

AFAIK college is expensive as fuck and not a lot of people get a degree, right?

And manufacturing was lost, since American labor is way too expensive thanks to the powerful dollar.

What does the average American do for a living if they are not in manufacturing nor in a job position that requires a degree? Not trolling, genuinely curious

most work in the service industry for poverty wages

There's no such thing as the "average" american
There's the uber wealthy
There's the wealthy
There's the C-Suite fags
There's doctors/lawyers
There's middle managers
There's tradies/cubicle cucks
And then there's the underclass of baristas/illegal construction workers/janitors/shelf stockers/uber drivers

Well for one, what those jobs pay can't meet the cost of living in the America of 2025 even if adjusted for inflation.

That wasn't the promise though. The promise was "factory jobs", even if they were the states minimum wage, the promise would be fulfilled.

How is bringing back manufacturing a pipe dream?

Trump is doing it all wrong. Tariffs don't work. Trump already gave richfags and corporations a massive tax cut and he plans on giving them a bigger tax cut. So to them, they will just weather the tariff storm.
What he should have done is INCENTIVIZE bringing manufacturing back to America with things like massive tax cuts/credit for x amount of factory workers, matching government funds, giving companies the land the factory is built on, etc, etc.

Problem being that even minimum wage is too high for production, while at the same time not enough for living(at least for non-mexicans). And factory jobs can't really rely on tips to cover the difference.

Unemployment is at 4%, everyone who can live on minimum wage already is
The bigger problem is that there's a lot of people who are effectively checked out of the economy because they can't afford to move out/own a car and thus just play vidya in their parent's house waiting for them to die

Manufacturing jobs may push up low-tier wages a bit if they actually materialize and the megacorps don't just eat the tariffs, but it's unlikely since the tariffs will just make the cost of living even higher.

It's quite literally all motivated by resentment.

And who the fuck is going to do those jobs when Walmart pays $15 an hour to fucking start, genius?

The percentage of American degrees would have been higher if education was free or affordable like it is in the rest of the world. I would've gone to college but wasn't able to because I couldn't afford it and I'm not gonna pay $60,000 a year just to put myself in debt. The government should provide higher education for all citizens.

most dropouts i know were trying to make school and a job work at the same time and when that doesn't pan out well you quit the one that isn't paying your rent.

And who the fuck is going to do those jobs when Walmart pays $15 an hour to fucking start, genius?

Exactly. The factory will have to raise wages. But in some areas, there are no Wal-Marts, or those jobs are filled. Market adapts.

Because wanting to stop progress to go back and sell bags of potatoes is retarded.

It sucks for them yes, but they got into a field with essentially ZERO fucking prior training or experience necessary for pretty decent pay.

Maybe invest that money back into yourself, and go to school to learn a more desirable skill.

they're gonna import people from poverty countries to do it
just look like haitians in ohio
thats the model

very few jobs meet the cost of living in 2025, why not add manufacturing back into the mix?

Problem being that even minimum wage is too high for production

In theory, that's how the tariffs would work. The foreign product + tariff would still be more expensive than USA made product without tariff. Trump should be doing things like removing/reducing payroll tax (not just a blanket tax lowering on companies)

Do you realize how much these products will cost for resale if done domestically by a human employee? You’d be paying20-30 USD for a single cotton T-Shirt. US labor is too expensive. It’s not feasible.

Do you realize how much these products will cost for resale if done domestically by a human employee?

That's why I keep saying INCENTIVIZE tax cuts.

government wants us to buy electric cars

"DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST?"

government gives tax breaks/credits for buying electric car

SIMPLE.
USA made with tariffs + tax incentives can be cheaper than foreign made + tariffs.

USA made with tariffs + tax incentives can be cheaper than foreign made + tariffs.

it really can't bro

The factory will have to raise wages

Then the private equity fund that owns the factory will be slightly less profitable and that is deeply anti-Semitic.

very few jobs meet the cost of living in 2025, why not add manufacturing back into the mix?

This. I've worked fast food, restaurant, and retail. How much worse can a factory be?

why not add manufacturing back into the mix?

adding more wage-slavery tier jobs is definitely worth making the CoL double for everyone else again

it really can't bro

T-trust me, bro!
If Trump said to Apple. You will pay 25% in corporate tax OR 10% if you open 2 factories in America, they would fucking JUMP at that.

muh incentives

WHO"S GOING TO PAY FOR IT RETARD

inb4 ur not mad at the electric vehicle credit/farm subsidies checkmate
I've been yelling into the void about this shit for decades
The government should not be paying people to buy shit

I actually work manufacturing, these jobs start at $25-35/hr dude, and they’re in super low cost of living areas. I’m talking $150-250k houses.

WHO"S GOING TO PAY FOR IT RETARD

The tariffs.
OR, less tax cuts for rich kikes.

The government should not be paying people to buy shit

Yeah, better to just let kike corporations get all the tax breaks, tax cuts, and things like bankruptcy protections and assurances that the gov't won't nationalize their businesses, all the while they send jobs overseas.

That’s a fair argument
You sound like a jeet retard

just stay dependent on your enemies to produce your stuff

progress bro

Because the point was to bring back good-paying jobs. We have plenty of shit-paying jobs here still, it's why people don't take them, they pay shit wages.

this argument about tax incentives and whatnot

It didn't need to be so complex.
All the US needed to do was balance its budget.

Cut gibs, get a budget surplus, no more Chinese money flowing into US treasuries.

Instead, US surplus money now goes to fund other countries' debts. (as it was during the Cold War). Now the US dollar drops because money is flowing out instead of flowing in.

No more trade deficit. It would have taken a year of austerity which would have been less painful than this insane "let's destroy world trade" shit.

>The factory will have to raise wages

Then the private equity fund that owns the factory will be slightly less profitable and that is deeply anti-Semitic.

This is the real issue. They'll kill the golden goose before they stop vampirizing their host nation for even a second.

Because the point was to bring back good-paying jobs. We have plenty of shit-paying jobs here still, it's why people don't take them, they pay shit wages.

I don't disagree, but you have to start somewhere.

get factory open

job openings $15/hr

no one shows up

factory has to raise wages

The "one factory job can buy a house and feed wife+3 kids" is decades away.

The tariffs.

Ah so consumers, the very people you're trying to uplift with muh manufacturing jobs
Genius

If Amazon is struggling to hire enough people to work in a warehouse job that flip boxes. How would any company hire enough people to do factory job?

Further reading if you don't know what I'm talking about.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_deficits_hypothesis

Sustained budget deficits cause trade deficits.
Trump putting the cart before the horse.

Yup migatards are uneducated poor freaks

Ah so consumers, the very people you're trying to uplift with muh manufacturing jobs

I'd rather have a job and buy less, then have no job and have things be less expensive.

no they wouldn't you idiot
the costs of manufacturing here would be astronomical

Amazon has had to raise wages/benefits to get and retain workers.

Amazon is terrible work conditions and lower than standard pay, manufacturing facilities have great benefits, pay $50k-75k starting, unlimited OT, and like 2 hours of down time a day. You think I’m joking but I’m not.

It isn’t, why do retards always say this?

t. guy who owns zero factories and has no idea what he's talking about

Cut gibs

Whichever party touches medicaid/medicare or social security loses every election for the next 30 years, it's political suicide. They know they HAVE to do it one day because it's the biggest drain on the system, but no one wants to be the one to do it.

It would have taken a year of austerity

Europe tried austerity and it was a fucking disaster, America does not need a David Cameron situation.

You seem to be under some delusion that products must be produced at any cost so wages must go up

That's simply not how it works, if it costs $100k in wages to get people to show up to a factory to make a corolla, the corolla has to cost more than $100k and no one buys it, so it doesn't get made, and no one is employed.

This is basic supply and demand

The "one factory job can buy a house and feed wife+3 kids" is decades away

Lol, it's a week away if you restrict the labor market hard enough.

But we don't have to ban women from working, we can just close the border and throw out the illegals.

Capital will pay a premium for labor if we force them to.

the costs of manufacturing here would be astronomical

Uh, how do places like McDonald's survive when every one of their employees in America? Based on your logic a burger should cost $50. The burgers aren't made in China then shipped to the restaurants.
Again, you aren't thinking.
Big tax cut + other incentives + no tariff can be cheaper than foreign made + big tariff.

US is a a service economy built on high-education jobs

No it’s a fake economy built on money printing

>t. guy who owns zero factories and has no idea what he's talking about

Yeah, how many factories do you own, faggot?

Unemployment was at 4%, if you didn't have a job that's on you anon.
If you can't get hired at walshart for $10/hour what makes you think you're going to get hired to work in a factory?

Whichever party touches medicaid/medicare or social security loses every election for the next 30 years, it's political suicide. They know they HAVE to do it one day because it's the biggest drain on the system, but no one wants to be the one to do it.

Global Depression is gonna be more painful.

Yeah it's the working poor who are ruining the economy. Great thread 1pbtid shill

That’s with colleges turboboosting graduation rates with meme degrees and easy as shit classes too.

That's simply not how it works, if it costs $100k in wages to get people to show up to a factory to make a corolla, the corolla has to cost more than $100k and no one buys it, so it doesn't get made, and no one is employed.

Don't American car workers make more than that? Isn't the Ford F-150 selling like hotcakes?

Unemployment was at 4%, if you didn't have a job that's on you anon.

Believing those fake numbers....
Those numbers don't calculate people not looking for job. Most of those jobs are also going to non-americans doing Uber Eats or Doordash.

Drug dealing and gibs

Well by definition yes, they produce less value that's why they're poor
If they produced more value the economy would be better than it is now

Unemployment was at 4%

MUH OFFICIAL STATISTICS

They get paid to assemble them in the US yes, but if you'll notice all the "american" automakers are screaming right now because all of their inputs/subassemblies are going to be tariffed

Why didn’t you try being less detestable?

The education system is fucking broken. I make 100k working in investment banking and dropped out of highschool. Everything that you can find in a textbook you can find online cheaper and easier with better teachers. College is a scam to fund football players and underwater basket degrees and subsidize corporate R&D. Intellectualism is incorrect but that isn’t a pass to be proud of ignorance. Fix the fucking education system.

I’ve actually built out 3 factories in an exec role
Not every industry has gone overseas (thanks government regulations)

They get paid to assemble them in the US yes, but if you'll notice all the "american" automakers are screaming right now because all of their inputs/subassemblies are going to be tariffed

Screaming doesn't matter.
Now you are getting into where the parts are made. That's important too, but it doesn't change the fact that American factory workers are getting good money, making a good product that sells and the company is healthy and profitable.

The rich generate growth and, in turn, wealth. That's why they're rich.

A T shirt from shitty mall brands made in Cambodia costs that much retail

making a good product

Ford

Ok now you're just shitposting lol

Ok now you're just shitposting lol

It's literally the #1 selling car in America and Ford had a great fiscal year in 2024. I don't know what else you want.

turd worlders.
you're arguing for communism with extra steps. take the REDpill.

If you get what you want and all manufacturing is done in China, eventually Xi & the CCP will nationalize ALL OF IT and leave you with fucking nothing.

Think about that you Boomer kikes.

you're arguing for communism with extra steps.

So you want Trump give these globalist corporations massive tax cuts for doing NOTHING? Funny how them taking advantage of everything America offers to them isn't le communism.
kys retard.

90s and early 00s fords were peak truck, not even meming. Between them and toyota the 90s were the best era for trucks.

Between them and toyota the 90s were the best era

Fixed

no, i want him to nationalize these industries and use them to benefit Americans. all illegals and h1bs are to be enslaved and then killed when they outlive their usefulness. i volunteer to run the death camps.

i want him to nationalize these industries and use them to benefit Americans

Won't happen, you sound retarded.

all illegals and h1bs are to be enslaved

No mass deporatations and Trump wants more H1b visas

i volunteer to run the death camps.

You sound and probably look like a fat retard.

The problem is as follows:
If you are in the top 1/3rd of educated people, you have value.

If you are in the 2/3rds of uneducated people, you are economically only useful as slave labor...but you can't actually compete with illegal immigrant slave labor.

So 2/3rds of the country has no reason to exist.

If you are in the top 1/3rd of educated people, you have value.

Wrong. Lots of educated people can't compete with H1B visas because they do the job for peanuts.

Educated people in the US are actually on average more useless. This will piss people off but it’s true

The growth is all from money printing though. The rich just have access to the dollars earlier in the cycle before the value is inflated away.

It's insane that people still say this, jobs have contracts, hiring a postdoctoral researcher from france or even india doesn't pay them less retard. it just increases competition for jobs obviously

Stfu jeet, we all know you sub 80 iq inbred stinky retards all fake your credentials via diploma mills

hiring a postdoctoral researcher from france or even india doesn't pay them less retard. it just increases competition for jobs obviously

Are you fucking RETARDED? This his how it works dumb dumb

H1b visa program exists in America

this allows companies to hire foreign labor for much less than the going rate with the promise of getting a permanent visa after 5 years of servitude, I mean WORK

said H1B visa holder gets paid little, but sticks it out for 5 years to get his visa so he can stay and bring his family over

corporations take advantage of this by putting up job postings with insane requirments that no candidate can fulfill and then saying "there are no qualified candidates in our areas, so we need H1b visas", which the government grants them

US tech was like 5% Indian in the early 90s, now it's 70%.

Increasing the labor supply always lowers wages if holding other variables constant.

The counter example they anyways point to is Miami in the 80s. The cheap labor people jizzed so hard over that one they gave out a Nobel prize for it. But that was during the cocaine boom, lmao.