/smg/ - Stock Market General

Financially speaking what is the point of tarrifs?

Look outside the window

Starting to have doubts about DCAing through this dip. I'm gonna run out of cash before we get near the bottom

it was even higher in the 40s/50s iirc
like 85% or some shit

Nominally it's to tax goods from other nations and make them create jobs in US. Realistically it's taxing companies who in turn pass the loss to (You). Trump claims tariffs will make this country lots and lots of money, but what that will accomplish is beyond me. Maybe pay off the fake and gay national debt that the country can print money for to begin with.

omw

simply exchange your choices for bear ETFs. it isn’t too late. you KNOW this orange fuck will pull some horseshit over the weekend or surprise tariffs on monday

Thankfully you walk by 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

fundamentally to promote domestic manufacturing and job creation for an export economy
but the US is one of the biggest consooomers so it kinda just ends up as a consumer purchasing tax
trump probably just sees them as leverage for negotiations or something, it's hard to tell what they actually want to do with them because he's been all over the place with it

i lost money gambling therefore other people deserve to get it

do weak-willed people really be liked this?

Yes. By a lot.

Elon Musk announces XAI has acquired X in all-stock transaction, valuing XAI at $80B and X at $33B.

what oes thie mean

Fuck donald trump for ruining the stock market.

x.com/elonmusk/status/1905731750275510312
SEC would have 100% blocked this any other time right

So what is the actual timeline when these tariffs are supposed to pay off materially in a way to justify the market hits that are resulting from them and everything that resonates off of that? I'm willing to endure some draw down if there's a clear estimated duration of pay off and the reward for the suffering is actually meaningful. The problem I'm seeing is no one on the right is holding the administration's feet to the fire at all. So the end result is this "well, short term pain, long term gain, the entire economy was fake until Trump came along, but soon we'll have a REAL economy!" That's all vague horseshit. When exactly does this start hitting the bottom line? Every bit of uncertainty I have is squarely on his followers who seem to just rationalize and make excuses. It's not professional in the slightest. It's actually like junkie behavior. "I'll pay you back soon maaaan." When? "soon." That's how you end up floating face down in a river.

just looked it up, was in the 90s

why? other faang type companies have that sort of spread already

SEC would have 100% blocked this any other time right

Why? they're operating in two completely different markets

BEARCH

BEARPRIL

BEAR

BEARNE

BEARLY

BEARGUST

BEARTEMBER

BEARTOBER

BEARVEMBER

BEARCEMBER

It’s to force manufacture to be US based.
Foreign car makers for example are already moving their factories to US so they can avoid the tariff.

businessinsider.com/us-manufacturing-production-boom-economy-made-in-america-trade-war-2024-10
The whole point is their hands have to be forced and we are decoupling with China.
It’s about time production comes back to the States, regardless of who you think will fill those jobs. A country that doesn’t produce is waiting to be picked off.

Anon Babble is a leddit colony and you should go back

What we're facing is a "we'll get there when we get there" approach. In order for this tariff gambit to pay off, it needs to:

A. Create a meaningful number of manufacturing jobs

Which will only start when factories are completely built to working order, and that's going to be at least couple of years down the line.

B. Bring in significant level of revenue through the tariff itself

Once again, as Americans almost exclusively import and consume, this translates to additional tax on services and goods. This means Trump's "billions and billions of dollars" effectively comes from your wallet, increasing inflation from the increased spending on necessities and discouraging discretionary spending.

Prove me wrong, someone. I wish I was wrong on this.

10 years later and we'll say

gosh we sure learned something from the tariffs from the '20s. that was a bad idea ended up causing a global depression! we'll never in 100 years make that mistake again

Then in 100 years we'll do it again.

It means that Elon Musk personally values the X grok at 80 billion.

Don't forget the part where millions of h1b visas are given out to staff the new manufacturing facilities.

Just so fucking annoyed that I only decided to enter the market in late 2024. I was unable to take full advantage of most of the bull run because I had no idea what I was doing or enough money to throw around. Through sheer dumb luck, I stumbled across GRRR and PDYN while they were both at their bottoms, but I fucking sold early to chase more flashy stuff.
I've managed to make more money than in 2024 now that I'm slightly better at trading and have more money in the market, but it still sucks.

Buy TSLA put at $240 strike price with a $270 contract value & April 4th expiration

In the red by $50-60 a few days ago

Check brokerage account today

Contract is worth almost $130 more than original price

TSLA is still ~$20 away from hitting the $240 strike

Can someone explain this to me? This was literally baby's first option buy, and I'm confused why it has risen in value so much when the stock still needs to drop $20 to reach the strike price. Is it just market sentiment that the stock is going to continue to eat shit after it shot up from $220?

My portfolio just keeps getting deeper red but I don't have the slightest inclination to panic sell. Maybe I'm just retarded at this point.

What you've said is factually accurate. The only exception that might have some plausibility, but it's firmly in "trust me bro" territory and is convoluted as all Hell making a long shot, is if everyone in the administration is bluffing currently. The textbook use of tariffs are for temporary protections on emerging industries OR temporary policy tools to nudge behavior in other nations. Either way, they're appropriately used temporarily and in the case of the U.S. it would seem they're best used in the latter sense. You apply tariffs to get people to the table. But here I am writing up something that is borderline fantasy and justification with minimal basis in practice because we're talking about the United States here.

If they want to get you to the table, they don't need tariffs to do it, so again it seems convoluted that they're being used in that matter, which only reinforces what you've said which is, as you seem to be aware of, a shoddy use case. I want what's best for America if for no other reason than a selfish sense of it benefits me when America prospers, but I find it very hard to believe that throwing a spear through the market's face is what's best for America when other approaches are/were seemingly available and what we're paying for is just nebulous and vague promises that are ultimately indistinguishable from incompetence until one day they are supposedly going to spontaneously manifest.

That's an ancient line of bullshit. The rescue ship is coming type stuff.

Close to the date. Both time and strike matter to the value

No. No reason to.

The pope will die before 2027 causing a leadership crisis coinciding with the start of the downfall of the vatican. China will officially own taiwan before 2030 without war. Between the complete fracturing of computer chip production between different economic spheres and the vatican being exposed along with trumps tarriff wars the economic downturn will make people lose faith in christianity at a faster pace lining up with isaac newtons predictions of apocalypse in 2060. Apocalypse starts when the rapture ends, rapture started in 1914. The economy in the middle east will be the next to take a major hit due to loss in oil demand from tarriffs effecting global trade. Between secularization of muslims in the west and muslims questioning the greed of their royal leaders islam will start to fail along with judaism fracturing from atheist movements in the west challenging orthodox leaders that don't challenge bibi's war actions in israel as jewish youth become more liberal and less conservative. There will be a big interest movement in buddhism as shown on Anon Babble but over time the movement will fail as it provides no answers for increasing wars in mainland europe calling for mythic heroes to battle the army of darknesses coming from beyond europe. Society will start openly practicing paganism as the major religions come to their end, even the bible had its end written down as isaac newton analyzed and assumed. Nature will return to the west and the great quest past the ice wall will begin as the magnetic pole shift creates global climate shift and sends the internet and AI to the void.

If your bills are covered, you're not on leverage (or able to service the debt), and you're in structurally sound companies or products, there's really no reason to panic sell. Some guy who is 3x leveraged on Turd Eaters Inc. with a rent, credit card, and car payment due is in a lot deeper shit than someone who owns a sector ETF and isn't hurting for working capital day to day. That's just how it is.

The pope will die before 2027 causing a leadership crisis coinciding with the start of the downfall of the vatican

Funny but there's no way. Vatican is harder to kill than the British monarchy. It will persist doing nothing but shitpost for centuries out of the local sentimentality.

Death to america

is now a good time to buy VOO or will it go down more? if I shouldn't buy VOO what should I buy and why?

If you are buying in to an index fund like that the time tested winning method is to dollar cost average. So yes buy now, buy next month and the month after and again and again and again. Just don't panic sell.

The Bogle cult will tell you to always buy VOO no matter what because line eventually go up. However, true patriots will buy INTC, PLTR, and TSLA.

For me, it's SKYT

true patriots buy Intel Aviv

truest truer words have never been spoken

USA does not have employment problems though. Why not leave those low paying jobs overseas and enjoy cheap products?

Is it ever a reason not to use a trailing buy order rather than just trying to time it manually? I feel like you buy too early far too often.
Sure a stock could spike up and hit your buy order and then dump but looking at my stocks not one of those sharters have had a decent pump in recent times, a trailing buy order would have saved me so much FOMO.

The tariffs aren't even going to make them as much money as they forecast because consumer spending will drop like a rock, meaning less goods are purchased overall. The current forecast is basically "Yeah but what if consumption stayed exactly the same but we were making 25% on the top of that?" Tariffs will drive some goods to the balking point.
So then we get what tariffs actually cause when implemented widely: stagflation. Everything costs more, yet spending and economic activity drop.
Now will we get absolutely earth shattering levels of stagflation like the 1920s or 30s? No, I think we're going to see more of a 1970s style, where shit just kind of sucks in general.

We aren't going to get the massive investment and spinup of manufacturing like Trump wants. First, because that kind of pace isn't possible, and second because they'd rather fire a lot of workers, reduce output for 4 years, and hope for a non-retarded president on the next go-around. Even if you thought Trump would try for a 3rd term illegally, he's still a 78 year old man and will be 82 by that time, so life expectancy has a pretty solid chance of catching up to him. It'll be a repeat of the tariffs from his first term.

Checked. Yeah, this move seems to be firmly in the "trust me bro" territory. Maybe we'll see the benefits of the increased manufacturing about 10 years down the line, provided that the tariff isn't nixed by the Democrats after they realize all they have to do was nominate a milquetoast white guy for 2028. Honestly, implementing tariff is such a large departure from what worked for the US so far (being the reserve currency and taking advantage of an Econ 101 concept of comparative advantage by, well, not imitating North Korean self-sufficient isolationism) I don't see it coming to its intended fruition before someone comes along and pulls the plug on it. What's more, by that time, the damage will already have been done to the economy and the international relations. It just seems like an ill-advised move that nobody close to Trump ever told him "no" to.

I need a fucking drink. And the guy at the top of the thread who's supposedly out to kill people for looking at him funny still hasn't come to put me out of my misery.

TRUMP EYES TAX HIKE ON THE RICH TO FUND TIP TAX CUTS: AXIOS

Were you a vegetable during COVID? Did you not see how disrupting the supply chain caused massive problems for countries that relied on China?

I wouldn't mind the emergency tariff power getting wholesale removed from the president. Yes, it's only supposed to work with an actual emergency, but we saw how easy that was to circumvent. Its too dangerous to have one man be able to pick winners and loser in the market.

So it's not about jobs and economy but security?
Also, most COVID problems were caused by the lockdowns and mass hysteria, not supply chains

BUT /REDDIT/SMG/, WHY ARE MY 200 PE TECH TRANNY STOCKS GOING DOWN???????

ALL THOSE LARGE NOSED INVESTMENT ADVISORS ON CNBC SAID THIS WAS THE GENERATIONAL BOTTOM??????

HOW COULD DRUMPF DO THIS TO ME??????

X at $33B.

How much did he pay for it again?

33b

BEARTY BEARTY SIX

Addiction and lack of meaningful employment go hand in hand
This is what happens when you shipped all the jobs to somewhere that pays cheaper. You let a portion of people in your country rot so you can soak the benefit of the so called “cheap products”
bc.edu/content/bc-web/sites/bc-news/articles/2025/spring/income-mobility-and-opioid-overdoses.html

how much did Musk owned xAI pay for Musk owned X

Does he just wire himself the money, or what?

More like SKEET haha gottem

And speaking of lockdown. China was notorious for extending their lockdown in the most authoritarian method possible.
There are no benefits to keep depending on China if they can go full retard and lock themselves up even when most countries have begun opening up and returning to normal.

What makes you think that tariffs will bring back high paying jobs and cause upward mobility? USA already has one of the highest GDP per capita.
Ok, then what about Canada, Mexico and Europe?

sold some $3 puts on FUBO and got assigned, going to sell some out of the money calls 7-8 weeks out

I think they’ll pump when once they get the green light and the disney deal goes through

Having more manufacturing jobs in United States offers workers more options and more mobility and bargaining power.
Not everyone can learn to code and get a cushy white collar job. When you have a robust manufacturing economy people have more avenues to apply themselves. This in turn gives them stable living, lets them spend and save.
Canada and Mexico will be partners and we’ll keep negotiating USMCA. Europe is too far away. We are keeping things in this continent because god knows what those bloodthirsty Europeans will do to themselves.

If you really want to see what tariffs are all about. It’s already happening before your eyes.
axios.com/2025/03/26/hyundai-trump-tariffs

That assessment is pretty much where I arrive at when I think about it practically. There's a lot of what ifs, but they all arrive at a conclusion where the optimal strategy seems to be to pretend like you're going along with the tariff stuff, while just waiting for someone to come in and switch them off because they're not really an orthodox economic policy for a country like the U.S. So the most likely outcome is someone is going to come in and drop them in the future because it's the obvious signal of competence and as a result building capital policy around them being a 20 year thing when they are a 3 year thing at best seems to be a mistake.

The tariffs either don't work or they work and if they work, they have to work in a way that makes it politically inconvenient to come in and dismantle them. That means they'd need to be home runs which there is nothing to indicate they will be. If they were going to be home runs, you could trot out actual facts, evidence, and timelines (even approximate ones) instead of "we're gonna have more money than we know what to do with!" So given that, the strategy is to just be like "oh yea, tariffs, cool, we'll move manufacturing back here...give us some time...sure we're working on it...oh okay, Trump's gone...tariffs are gone...fuck that bullshit, back to business as usual."

Yep. Completely agreed. It's the complexity of human interactions at play. You don't piss on someone's car, apologize or even clean off the piss yourself, and it permanently erases the memory of the incident. The event changes the dynamic going forward. It seems like a big mess and I'm only seeing rationalizations and mental gymnastics on the scale of "she's sleeping over another guy's house, but they're just friends, heh, just friends."

I need a fucking drink. And the guy at the top of the thread who's supposedly out to kill people for looking at him funny still hasn't come to put me out of my misery.

Lol.

US is almost 80% service based economy. To change to manufacturing would take a huge number of jobs that nobody wants. We've been offshoring this shit for decades. It's not good but it's going to take decades to change. Learning to code is irrelevant, we need a bunch of low skill cheap labor

There is no doubt that Mexico will do some of the dirty cheap labor. The bottom line that I sensed in a bipartisan manner is that our relationship with China has ended. (Biden never lifted tariffs on China)
It’s a healthy and sensible goal for US to be in control of its destiny as opposed to leaving it up to countries oceans apart that want to take advantage of us and secretly despise us.

more options and more mobility and bargaining power

Unemployment is already low. Factory jobs are not going to start paying like crazy just because a bunch of new factories open up. If they do, the increase in pay will reflect directly on the increase in prices.
It all feels like trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. The US is in a heavily privileged position but somehow convinced itself that it's the opposite and other countries are ripping them off or something.

Most of those projects were already in the pipeline before Trump started dangling the threat of tariffs — indeed before he even took office for a second term.

There absolutely is a problem. Again, COVID demonstrated it. Are you so confident about China’s policies and their standards that you want to risk another black swan event to crash the world again? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different result.

You keep going on about China but most of the tariffs gone out yet aren't directed at China.

AMD was doing very well, it was about break even at my avg price when some faggot named Jeffries made a lot of noise and sent it back to 100 again. Thanks a lot you nigger Jefferies. If your name is Jefferies or Jeffy or Jefe or even Jeff, you better stay indoors today. You do not want to cross paths with me.

I just fucking love this administration, this year, this planet. It's the fucking best ever.

Don't worry sweetheart, I'm coming for you.

nvda is going down more next week isn't it? 90? 80?

We already implemented additional 10% to China on top of what’s in place.
Nobody knows how much the WH is bluffing atm but all previous attempts to get other players to sit down and negotiate fairly has failed and it has led us to this point where increasing tariffs slightly on Canada can cause their economy to implode.

Yes.

Trump is a mental midget who thinks prosperity is everyone except him in a factory earning $60k/y making stuff. I mean this fucking retard bankrupted a casino. And unfortunately the last old guard of the GOP that kept him in a lane last time is gone. He's surrounded by sycophants and Yes Men like that turd Vance who rims him every morning.

None of this shit will ultimately go anywhere; after he's done cratering the stock market, poisoning crypto and pissing on our trade agreements, he will lose the WH to a Dem. Most likely they'll have Congress to, since republicans will get fucked up in the midterms on this shit.

NVDY unironically looks like a superior pick over NVDA. If the underlying goes down they can sell a shitton of ITM calls and wait until they're OTM. Fuck worrying about NAV erosion. Imagine the dividend.

Google says 44 billion

How much did he pay for twitter when he bought it originally retard

it was the 33B + ~12B in debt = 44-45B, same as its current evaluation
this was learned a couple weeks ago when some Saudi Arabian investment firms published fractional evaluations of X on their balance sheets publicly (X is a private company so there's no way to know their evaluation otherwise)

bloodthirsty europeans

It's a russian shill trying to spin trump's disastrous policies as beneficial

bros i made almost $1.5k on a bear put spread on SPX
could have been $2.2k if i held till market close (i sold 4 hours early) but this is my biggest win to date

congrats anon
ready to lose it all next week?

Are you a weeb with Jap locale or are you cally a Jap?

Truth, when the cabinet picks came out you could tell this 2nd term was gonna go nowhere, Scott Bessent might be the one with an almost level head and hes a massive cock sucking cum guzzling faggot

really*
Did I mention earlier that I was tired

no
i work in japan, this is almost my monthly salary kek

He won and there isn’t a thing you can do about it.

the best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago. The second best - there is no second best. You missed the boat, simple as.

did chatgpt come up with this response too

portfolio heading toward zero

failing at job

will probably be unemployed soon

holy fuck my life is collapsing again

Was looking back at 2018, the last time we had all this tariff noise from Trump. Sharp sell off into another one right after making essentially equal lows (where we are right now). Guess what the date was in 2018 during the tariff noise then, that the market bottomed? April 2nd. Guess what we have this coming April 2nd?

Also, next week on /smg/

INTC dropped 10 cents in after hours I wanna believe it'll go below $20 next week so I can rebuy.

smile through the pain :)

I honestly don't think I've smiled since 2018

I work at an automotive manufacturer and we just had a round of furloughs announced today because of his fucking tarrifs. How is that building american manufacturing?

2 more weeks trust the plan

just turn that frown upside down, it's that shrimple

therein lies the rub in that the US is mostly an import economy, so *if* Trump is serious about tariffs being permanent, it's an extremely long term play where companies are going to gut losses (or cut labor to cover losses to maintain le infinite growth face) until domestic production has migrated back into the country, factories in all

the problem is that trump might just be memeing with the tariffs
he might be using them just to negotiate
he might half ass them
he might make exception
he might just not do them lol

So it's hard to say what his goal is because Trump's word is about as reliable as his morning bowel movements.

why even buy so much different crap if you're this poor?

I turned 25k into 12k
Fuck AI Memes
Fuck HIMS
Fuck WATT
and most importantly, fuck my ass

If only you plebbitors had posted in Anon Babble you wouldn't be losing your life savings right now. Sucks to suck. Now go cry some more about how orange man made you buy the top of a massive bubble lmfao.

I can't fuck your ass without HIMS bro

you guys told me to buy tesla

I turned 50k into 80k by going all in on DJT pre-election and selling it right before he won then putting it all in Intel post-crash.

You were supposed to buy in October, Sell in January, rebuy early March

Ukraine has REFUSED to sign the minerals agreement in the current version presented by the Trump regime.

Damn, my $1m date is now pushed back to next July
Assuming I even live that long

Unironically people should be investing in Leaf mineral stocks. The Ukraine shit is just part of Trumps efforts to pressure Canada and get a renogotiation on the deals there for Aluminum and other shit and once the election there ends end of April a new deal will be announced and those stocks will rally. Unless Carney wins because he's a WEF shill that wants to quadruple the industrial carbon tax.

Carney

he's going to win i bet

he's going to win i bet

There is zero chance.

lol

Disregard the shit polls. He got a ton of protestors in the atlantic provinces when he tried to campaign there thanks to the carbon neutral bullshit actively attacking small fisheries and is refusing to do the french language debate. Also every time he does a speech he says something retarded and unpopular because he's a WEF Central Banker and not a properly trained talking head.

thanks trump

polymarket is never wrong

I'm honestly scared that Trump's liberation day will trigger a black swan. Thoughts?

all that just means he will be more likely to be elected, have you learned nothing from drumpf?

I have to believe that Poillivere will win because he's the only one promising (probably lying but still) to deport the millions of Jeets overstaying or breaking the terms of their visa.

I do not see any meme stonks on the list, I like to gamble on meme stonks

WKHS used to be a meme

Invested 10k in January

Down 20%

Should I just hold or just cut my losses and buy dividend stocks? I'm happy just putting money in and forgetting about it.

I absolutely loathe the braindead redditors that have infested Anon Babblesmg/, but I feel bad for any wayward anons like MANyVNYI who are still here, so I made this:

Fear and uncertainty has been priced in and then some. Next Monday and Tuesday will make sure of that if that's not the case already. My guess/wishful thinking is that Trump will backpedal enough on his tariff threats that his list will be a lot shorter than what we expected. Despite him claiming that he's not worried about the stock market, he knows midterms is going to be a bloodbath for the Republicans if his retarded saber rattling heems the economy. All in all, we might see a tidy bounce before we crab until the market decides how badly the tariffs will affect its bottom line.

>portfolio heading toward zero

cash it. tonight. if you even can.

>failing at job

your INCOME is your greatest asset. get your shit together.

don't click this it's a virus

dont be scared... uncertainty is your friend.. maybe.

What's in your port?

Well, I already am mostly cash. My portfolio is just my (now) $70k gambling account.
But yeah.. the job thing isn't going well. I don't think it's recoverable.

Sup nonewsnigger. How have you been? Still trying to financially ruin anons?

don’t lose it all. sell everything

fuck off

do you not see GRRR on Monday? top of the list

How is that building american manufacturing?

If you destroy it you can claim its better now then under the previous administration.

i am financially ruined

Realistically it's taxing companies who in turn pass the loss to (You).

Companies always try to make the consumer eat their loss. If the consumers stop buying their goods that are priced for loss (like eggs, for example). Then companies will lobby for some sort of socialized bailout. If that fails they will fire EEs to make up for the loss. And if that fails, they will eat the loss.

Thankfully, I own everything that I need, I have nothing to buy. I love my clothes with holes in them. I love my BIFL home gym, and heirloom-quality cooking supplies.

oh did not see it, but its still too high for me to gamble on. I like the $1 - 10$ when looking for retarded pumps

Best picks for dealing with deflation/stagflation/recession/whatever the fuck is happening next?

It's a danger to Our Democracy™ if you don't lose your life savings to be exit liquidity for big banks, goyim.

The DOG portfolio has historically performed well during red cycles. Just buy the dips on:
DDOG
WOOF
CHWY
TRUP
BARK
PET
PETM
DOG (ProShares)

what's wrong, admins not letting you russian pedophiles post your child porn signaling images on your kremlin ran generals across the site, even they're getting sick of your child porn pandering operations, woah

If Monday or Tuesday have a noticeable bounce back, by Allah I'll YOLO my account into puts. It seems like a once in a lifetime opportunity.
I'll do it, inshallah.

deflation/stagflation/recession

look to booze, chocolate, ice cream, candy, prostitutes

RUSSIA IS *LITERALLY* HACKING THE STOCK MARKET!!!!!!!!!11111!1!1!11111oneoneelevenone

Mental illness. I only post good shit in the real /smg/, which is on Anon Babble.

German anon? Is that you? It must be.

just don't sell the bottom and short it for good measure, hey?

No, that is tayanon

He's a confirmed Turk

why is everyone here so dumb? literally all you have to do is buy puts on the fake green days when markets are up 1%. the bubble popped you retards its only going down until it reaches fair value

What's fair value?

At least the NVDY divvy still hits

How much do you have in there to get that much divvies?

germanon. im sorry our VP told you to elect Nazis. please don't destroy Europe again in response. thnx.

surprise invading Russia again is OK tho

since Russia isn't Europe

yeah i think im gonna short Novo Nordisk, those pharma tariffs are gonna fuck em up

I need to sell MSFT and AVGO for the renovation we are doing on our home. I've already lost $30k in those, and $20k in crypto. With capital gains taxes I'm in trouble because I didn't figure for a 20% loss. I haven't sold yet in hopes of a recovery. How screwed am I?

that's not how you greentext, dumbass
stop posting your faggot child porn and just lurk

hire a good CPA

Judging by what I got, he has about 50-60k in I'd say.

I'm gonna post this again for all the fags hyperventilating over this "crash"

Reminder that the S&P was up EIGHTY FIVE percent from Jan 1, 2020 to Jan 1, 2025, giving an average return of 17% per year. As if that's not insane enough, reminder there was an entire 2 year bear market in the middle of that, and still, the average yearly return for that 5 year period was nearly double the historical average.

As if that's still not insane enough, reminder that, as of March 28, 2025, the S&P is up ONE HUNDRED NINETEEN percent from March 28, 2020, giving an average yearly return of 24%.

This performance has been batshit insane, continues to be batshit insane, and if you bought any time before approx. August of last year, you're completely fine. Nobody has anything to complain about, unless you bought the top like a fucking retard. There was never a more obvious bubble in history.

if you lost $30k what gains are you referring to?

I'm gonna post this again for all the fags hyperventilating over this "crash"
Reminder that the S&P was up EIGHTY FIVE percent from Jan 1, 2020 to Jan 1, 2025, giving an average return of 17% per year. As if that's not insane enough, reminder there was an entire 2 year bear market in the middle of that, and still, the average yearly return for that 5 year period was nearly double the historical average.
As if that's still not insane enough, reminder that, as of March 28, 2025, the S&P is up ONE HUNDRED NINETEEN percent from March 28, 2020, giving an average yearly return of 24%.
This performance has been batshit insane, continues to be batshit insane, and if you bought any time before approx. August of last year, you're completely fine. Nobody has anything to complain about, unless you bought the top like a fucking retard. There was never a more obvious bubble in history.
you're welcome

for all the fags hyperventilating

And another reminder that if your investment size is this small, you are completely LARPing as an "investor" and no amount of gains or losses matter because you are destitute regardless. Whether the market is up 100% or down 100%, your amount of money is still inconsequential, so it's frankly absurd for you to lament the swings of the market.

No, his is better to read. I don't care about your illiterate, academia-hating culture on 4chins.

the only ones who are suffering are the retirees drawing down their 401k who are somehow not rich enough already.
basically retarded boomers who failed by never having a pension, never saving in their retirement, and expecting social security to be their main source of income....

So....

Every trump voter.

captcha

XRPKS

the only ones who are suffering are the retirees drawing down their 401k who are somehow not rich enough already.
basically retarded boomers who failed by never having a pension, never saving in their retirement, and expecting social security to be their main source of income....
So....
Every trump voter.
you're welcome

Im gay

inb4 BUT MAH STONKS
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