ELI5 how he has the authority to do this

ELI5 how he has the authority to do this.

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Watch shitlibs will suddenly be pro big pharma. Oh wait, they already are lol

Cmon faggots, come out and shill for some of the most evil cunts on the planet

its dump bullshit nigger
his whore wife made him do it nigger

gender transition meds -80%

everything else 0%

How would you react?

Just got back on Facebook after taking a 15 year break.
All of my old school annarcho hippy friends are are now deluded shitlibs, that have been hypnotized into raging for the machine.

Drugs prices are artificially high in the US due to very stupid laws big pharma lobbied for, he's probably trying to do away with those as opposed to doing price controls or whatever else

liberals getting mad at this is actually insane

Where is this happening?

What is this psyop on this board that kicked in immediately pretending libs or progressives are somehow against price control for drugs? This is something Biden literally did, but Trump reversed partially when he got into office.

Just skimming the board, there's so many people preemptively creating memes about how shitlibs are definitely against this and will die defending pharmaceutical companies. This is shit that they wanted for like the past 8 years.

very stupid laws

trying to do away with those

I don't think an executiv order can un-write congressionally passed laws
I just want to know if this is going to be a lasting policy or if courts will quickly overturn it. Tomorrow might be a good day to buy the pharma dip

Directs cabinet heads to think about it

Demands science people to make em cheaper

Tells business people to come up with tax credits/incentives for cheap drugs

Has state department people have it on the agenda for tariff negotiations

Has army shoot any expensive drug dead with a sidewinder missile

Winning bigly

im in support of this, even though im liberal. Lets hope he actually pulls it off and not half ass it to make it worse.

The fact that the posts declaring libs are so mad so quickly after the announcement, and the fact that none of these people have backed it up, just implying it's true, makes me think it's actual bots.

It is a fucking weird psyop though.

he has the authority because most of those drugs are imported.

Like usual, watch what Trump does, not what he says.

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I welcome the downfall of society and embrace the sweet dream that will consume the mankind

Actually now that I think about it, didn't he say pharma tariffs were in the pipeline? How is that gonna intersect with this?

Isn't USA largest pharma producer in the world? Does not really seem like putting tariffs on chink paracetamol or some shit would do much.
... unless Trump is unironically thinking putting on export tariffs on US produced drugs

I don't think an executiv order can un-write congressionally passed laws

That used to be true. Not any more.

I mean it's still not. Trump's illegal EOs last for like a week before they get stuck in legal quagmire.

fires half the federal workforce

cuts benefits for poor, veterans, students, elderly

destroys trade costing everyone biggly

illegally threatens anyone that disagrees with him

does one good thing

this asshole thinks we're going to complain about the one good thing he does and not the 700 illegal things he did

And that's the root of my question.
Will pharmaceutical stocks only temporarily suffer before a court strikes this down? Or does this policy have actual potential to stick?

the president of the US doesn't actually have the power to tell businesses how much they can charge

that would be socialism

isnt this what the republicans call "communism"

Or does this policy have actual potential to stick?

0% potential. Simply totally wrong attack angle if trump actually wanted to do something about drug prices, so it is just fellowship of trump doing insider trading again and backing down soon enough.

I’ve been tuned out. So you’re probably right about the Biden / Trump reversal.
Which is exactly why I tuned out.
I’m sick of the headlines saying one thing and the truth being a different matter.

But I can say with certainty, that trump pulled the old ’rabbit season’ bait and switch trick on people I respected and admired.
Now they’re all anti-Tesla, pro pharma, saber rattling, chicken hawks.
They literally shitpost all day and night about how we should give the military industrial complex more taxpayer money to arm nazis.
And praise the environmental damage of firebombing teslas.
They’re even arguing for neurotoxins in kids cereals.

Republicans don't have any consistent values anymore, just blind support for whatever Orange Man does. Kamala advocated for price control in her campaign and they called her a communist, now Trump does it and they're calling it fair trade.

wtf trump is a democrat

government subsidizes it I guess like other civilized countries
what people are missing is he said companies will raise their prices everywhere else to compensate which isn't gonna happen and he has no control over that

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I don't think an executiv order can un-write congressionally passed laws

It already has, or did you think congress authorised him to ignore all those spending bills?

These ARE the pharma tariffs

no, usa exported most of its pharma manufacturing to europe and china. he wants to move it back and this will effectively accomplish that.

congress authorised him to ignore all those spending bills?

Congress actually did just that. You're too stupid to understand the explanation but a simple way to understand it is that Congress is supposed to pass a budget that says "spend XX dollars on XX project." instead they are saying "you are allowed to spend XX dollars on XX project" but just giving the President a pile of money. he can't spend it on whatever he wants but he's not required to spend it on the things they suggested.

Have you been in a coma for ten years? Shitlibs got psyopped by the cable TV in 2015 to replace all of their values and policy preferences with new religion of anti orange man. That's literally all they care about or talk about

this happened also when freedom loving patriots got brainwashed into sucking orange mans tiny penis

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Yeah but I live in a big city of shitlibs so all the psyopped retards I interact with are decadent shitlibs not penis patriots

The only thing I can think of that even remotely resembles replacing all their values and policy preferences with anti-orange man practices is the Ukraine situation, but it's hard to argue that supporting a country defending itself from an invasion is a reversal of their values. Ukraine is as much of a Nazi country as the US is. Hell, we even banned providing the Azov battalion with US supplies until they underwent Lehy testing in like June 2024.

What else would be considered a reversal of liberal values? The other anon mentioned being anti-Tesla, but that has nothing to do with their EV business, it has everything to do with Musk doing Nazi salutes, being a right-wing troll by trade now, gutting social services and regulatory bodies with DOGE. Tesla is pushing him out or at least muzzling him because they realize that Musk's pandering to conservatives - a group that doesn't buy EVs - while alienating liberals - the group that buys EVs - is really dumb.

I still haven't seen any evidence that libs are pro-pharma despite it being tossed around Anon Babble right now. All the posts about "can't believe libs are seething about this!" have literally nothing to back them up. Which is going to look weird compared to the mountains of material where conservatives have been calling price control communism and disastrous.

Watch it be challenged in Court, watered down to nothing, or gaming of any rule by Pharma. He’s trolling you yet again, Anon Babble. Please, keep up with the growing trend of obfuscation

The first really absurd collapse in shitlib values was when the TV conned them away from Cesar Chavez's position and into Koch Brothers' position on the open borders/ WTO stuff. All because orange man is racist to point out the same thing about illegal migrants getting raped like 80% of the time as huffpo pointed out a year earlier lol

The average chud exists entirely in the context of hating libs. He believes nothing, and so being convinced the libs believe the opposite of something is the #1 psyop technique for getting chuds to believe something

I think you're right. Libs won't complain about this EO, but they will complain about Republicans being hypocrites for suddenly cheering on price controls while previously calling it communism. The idea that "libs are pro-pharma" comes from liberals being generally supportive of modern medicine, just not liking it being a for-profit business that price gouges people. Conservatives, on the other hand, don't like the medicine itself. They think big pharma has some kind of sinister, ulterior motive other than just maximizing profits. Even after Trump funded development of the COVID mRNA shot, he got booed by his own supporters for suggesting they take it (the one time I've ever seen them disagree with him), and they started treating ivermectin as a cure-all. Now they're even bigger on anti-vax and alternative medicine with RFK Jr. and Dr. Oz being part of the White House.

from 44% to 12%

collapse of values

I don't get it. Democrats were lukewarm to it the entire time. Liberals were even mad at Obama for his border policies since that's when putting kids in cages started. Libs wanted comprehensive and efficient immigration policy so people wouldn't spend months or years hanging out on the border wading through a legal quagmire to decide whether or not they could stay. Your graph already shows opinion on a physical wall diverting pretty steadily.

Orange man bad mentaility started in part because he started running on "Mexico is sending drug dealers and rapists to our country and we gotta build a wall that Mexico pays for." Of course they're going to sour pretty hard on the idea of the thing they're already tepid on when it's now affiliated with all the other stuff the other party wants. And of course libs don't want to be associated with anything that could be perceived as racist.

Do you know who Cesar Chavez and the Koch Brothers are, what they were on about, and which of them drove around the border with a gun shooting illegal migrants?

Neoliberalism has been a blight, yes, but that had very little to do with our Orange Man conversation since I figured neoliberals are who we're talking about when we discuss shitlibs.

REEEEEEEEEEE DRUMMMPPFFFF AHHH IM GOING NUTS

If he was a democrat you'd be shitting yourself over his crimes but since you voted for him it's all good.

get used to it, even his supporters are turning on him now.

Come on lol you know there's literally no other reason that almost every democrat cable news watcher simultaneously became wildly anti border wall.

Almost like the increased coverage made people realize it was a stupid fucking idea.

I feel like yeah 90% of people actually had no opinion whatsoever on border walls until the TV told them it was a stupid fucking idea. Not by arguing against union principles but by sparking the insane anti orange man cult. Lol I'd be at dinners and boomers who used to talk about fun stuff suddenly all started injecting these catechisms the TV pushed into their brains, real crazy evangelical style two minutes hate

He is absolutely required to spend it on the things congress designates the funding for per the appropriations clause in the US constitution amd several courts have already ruled decisively on the matter
The moment congress failed to impeach him for this they lost all power as an independent branch of government and are effectively no longer involved in running the country
One down, one to go.