I don't really get how gold can have value if its only value was being backed by the dollar...

I don't really get how gold can have value if its only value was being backed by the dollar, and if that doesn't exist doesn't that 1) mean gold has no value and 2) the dollar has no value besides the intrinsic value society gives it?
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You have it backwards. The dollar's only value WAS the gold backing it. After they removed the gold standard it has been a societal contract, which has been destroyed by jews occupying the federal government.

Gold is the OG fiat currency. In a time where the stability of modernist paper fiat is being brought into question, people are naturally retvrning to tradition.

Neither of you have it correct. EVERYTHING is valued in terms of ANYTHING ELSE. You can compare the values of eggs vs. bacon, dollars vs. dinars, or a pile of dogshit vs. a pile of gold. (Dogshit actually has its uses as fertilizer and for leather tanning.)

People use dollars, euros, dinars, gold, silver, etc., as common references since they are abstract compared to the value of eggs, bacon, or dogshit. Whereas one person might have no use whatsoever for a pile of dogshit, and might be a vegetarian and hence have no use for bacon, that person still might value eggs. Likewise someone else might have no use for dogshit and might be allergic to eggs but may still love bacon. And the occasional gardener might have some use for dogshit for fertilizing a garden but might be a vegan and be horrified at the thought of eating eggs or bacon.

But all of these people can make use of reference prices in dollars, or dinars, or gold, to decide how much to pay for their eggs, bacon, or dogshit, and to get paid in turn for productive activities that they perform (programming, shitposting, gardening).

Your arguments of "but fiat is worthless!" and "but gold is an outmoded relic of history!" are as stupid as you are.

Computer, check if this poster is jewish

what does "the dollar" have to do with gold?
Are you talking about the canadian dollar?

This.
People are retarded and we all came together and said "yes this metal that is scarce will represent the value of our labor because it's shiny and doesn't afraid of anything" and then we constantly compare its value to the value of the paper that we also decided represents the value of our labor now "yes this paper with the funny looking fag wearing a wig on it represents the value of my labor because it's cool and doesn't afraid of anything"
I can't wait for the meteor to come wipe us all out and scatter our collective fucking brains across black empty space.

The dollar is useless now as it will not be used to protect Europe. Nuclear weapons are rapdidly being developed and tested in Northern Europe. The world is changing.

France and Sweden has made a deal.

Yeah not the best time line but it is what it is

You just outted yourself as a retard zoomie with this thread. The fact that you thought paper trash gave gold value is so laughable. There is a reason people refer to Bitcoin and ETH as "Digital gold and silver" instead of saying "digital USD"

fiat is worthless

It has worth now, but it has the highest risk of becoming worthless. That's what most of Anon Babble still doesn't understand.

go put gold in your hand somehow, at least 20 or 30 grams. I know it sounds stupid in 'the digital era' or wahtever the fuck people think we're living in (we're still living on earth/reality), but you need to actually touch this material to understand it a bit.
Also it's essential for literally the basic survival of our way of life now, lmfao

It has value because people like gold in jewelry

antisemites

caring about economy

They just want gibs, they don't care about this stuff

gold is in all high tech electronics meaning it is extremely valuable to the global economy as an electronic component

Gold is the OG fiat

You're a retard who doesn't know what fiat means.

Gold isn't fiat because... it just isn't ok??? Look at how shiny it is! That's inherent value!!

inherent value

See

Yes that's why ancient civilizations used gold as a store of value. Because of its use in electronics.

Electronics use it in trace amounts, and it's a lot easier to extract than some other rare minerals. It's only scarce because people (well, mostly governments) keep hoarding it.

working as a janitor might more your speed.

they knew things you wouldnt even dream of

Henry Ford said the following about gold:
• That gold is wealth is a FICTION [1]
• jewish power rests on THE FICTION THAT GOLD IS WEALTH [2]
• The belief that gold is necessary GIVES JEWISH CAPITALISM MORE POWER [3]
• If we destroy THE FICTION GOLD HAS VALUE, then we leave the jewish financiers sitting forlorn on heaps of USELESS METAL [4]

[1] exact quote: "the fiction that gold is wealth"

[2] <- exact quote

[3] exact quote: "the unthinking world has been made to believe still more strongly that gold is necessary, and this belief gives Jewish capitalism another hold on the Gentile world"

[4] exact quote: "Destroy the fiction that gold has value, and you leave the Jewish International Financiers sitting forlorn on heaps of useless metal."

Note that in the sentence

"the unthinking world has been made to believe still more strongly that gold is necessary",

Ford is saying

"has been made to believe BY THE JEWS still more strongly that gold is necessary".

He says the jews caused the increase in that belief through their Bolshevik Revolution in Russia:

"That is one answer to the question, why the Jewish capitalists support Bolshevism. The Red Revolution is the greatest speculative event of human history … Jewish capitalism knows exactly what it is doing. What are its gains? 1. It has taken a whole rich country, without the cost of war. 2. It has demonstrated the necessity of gold. Jewish power rests on the fiction that gold is wealth. By the PREMEDITATED clumsiness of the Bolshevik monetary system, the unthinking world HAS BEEN MADE TO believe still more strongly that gold is necessary, and this belief gives Jewish capitalism another hold on the Gentile world."

Picrel: Henry Ford receiving the Grand Cross of the Order of the German Eagle, 1938
OY VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY

Gold's historical value is it's antimicrobial and antirheumatic properties. Same with silver. They kill germs so the people who had them lived longer. That's why the wealthy are off silver platters. Copper is antifungal. That's why these metals have value even before industrial uses.

its only value was being backed by the dollar

Ridiculous premise. Gold was used as currency for thousands of years before the dollar existed.

Ford isn't the only great anti-jewish thinker who was anti-gold.

"I've explained to the GOLD-PEDDLERS that I have absolutely NO INTEREST IN GOLD."
— Hitler, Nov 12th 1941, Führer Headquarters

"The rest of the world still hasn't grasped this. They'll face such crises when the war ends. In the meantime, we are building a completely solid crisis-proof state behind which there is NOT A SINGLE GRAM OF GOLD."
— Hitler, Nov 12th 1941, Führer Headquarters

"To their own detriment the English industrialized India. The result is unemployment rising in England and their workers becoming impoverished. And there are millions of unemployed in America. They need a completely new economic policy: to BREAK FREE FROM THE GOLD STANDARD and foster internal production."
— Hitler, Sept 25th 1941, Führer Headquarters

"America can only be paid with GOLD. A business based on the exchange of goods is not possible with America; it has an excess of raw materials and production capacity. If they receive GOLD in return for the application of human labor they store it in a cellar and are convinced the world will conform to THAT ECONOMIC POLICY, that HAS ITS ROOTS IN JEWISH THINKING."
— Hitler, Oct 13th 1941, Führer Headquarters

"Christianity was utterly destructive Bolshevism. The Jews had the insight that through the teaching of Jesus they could collapse the Roman state, which they hated. The Romans confiscated THE GOLD the Jews had amassed in the temples, and thus by doing so the Romans attacked THE THING MOST SACRED FOR THE JEWS. And Saul-Paul realized the Roman state could be collapsed if they enforced the teaching of the equality of all humans before a single God and exalted their own allegedly divine concepts above the State, and that if they established a man as the representative of God on Earth then that man with his commands and teaching would stand above all state laws."
— Hitler, Oct 21st 1941, Führer Headquarters

A GOLD-backed currency and such concepts I can never regard as venerable. For me, money is nothing more than a token for work performed. Money has value only if it represents work."
— Hitler, May 19th 1944, Führer Headquarters

jew got btfo in his last ford btc advertisement thread that he 404'd it when i pointed out that Henry and Hitler paid their countrymen in silver

The latest jidf psyop is to claim that Hitler and Ford would have loved the "digital gold" while hating the real gold, but while also omitting the fact that they both implemented a degree of currency printing to supplement liquidity, a huge difference between jews digitally minting infinity tokens to rugpull everyone. The Ford.btc poster is a jidf loser jew that blew his life savings on january 18th om btc then spammed threads for everyone to buy into it. Crypto is a jewish ponzi scheme. Ponzi was a jew.

jew nuked his thread after this post exposed crypto as judaism because he was scared someone would read it and then see right through his jewry.

THEN THE FED COMES SND PRINTS 200X THE SUPPLY AND YOU REFERENCE IS ALL FUCKED IN THE ASSHOLE BECAUSE YOUR MODERN MONETARY POLICY IS ASS AND MADE UP AND FIAT IS LITERALLY UNEQUIVOCALLY ONLY BACKED BY THE UNITED STATES DIVERSE MILITARY OF BLACK LESBIANS AND HISPANICS COMPLETE WORTHLESS DOGSHIT THAT WILL DIE THROUGH PURE POLITICAL HUBRIS

your arguement makes no sense yiu are obviously a glowie pushing nonsense

The btc code is alterable by jews who control most of the networks and nodes. Its much easier to change a code than it is to do real work, which is what jews are trying to avoid in the first place, any tangible work. They want to steal your wealth

^ I hope your handlers aren't paying you much to post, because your posts are pathetic. It's so incredibly low-effort and targets the most dumbed-down low-IQ audience possible.

Hitler was broke and fiat printing himself. Around 1938/39 everything in Germany was almost fiscally collapsing from their policies. Later during the war they kept inflation in check locally within Germany by importing everything from the occupied territories.
Ask AI how well their vampire economy and Mefo we wechsel were actually working. Cody this post into AI if your choice and it will give you a highly associated beyond PhD level black pilled answer.

Sorry for my spelling errors but I was tied off this gold critical shit

Yeah you're right, and also people didn't use gold as a store of value thousands of years before fiat was even introduced to this world.

Kikes literally freak out whenever people use silver as money or the notionis even mentioned. By the way Henry Ford was paying his workers with silver and cash. Hitler issued Silver coins in Germany because its an excellent form of money. jews use crypto to manipulate and steal wealth via cold wallet deletions or seed phrase expiration due to hacks. Bitcoin is a derivative of fiat currency.

You are a jew.