/smg/ stock market general

state of the market edition

Educational sites:

investopedia.com/
khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiOs3-llXq5CGQPNHf_3-nYZ4d_w7OP52

Financial TV Streams:

watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

Charts:

tradingview.com
finscreener.com
koyfin.com/
portfoliovisualizer.com

Screeners:

finviz.com/
tradingview.com/screener
etfdb.com/

Options

optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
optionsprofitcalculator.com
optionstrat.com/
optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

Pre-Market and Live data:

investing.com/indices/indices-futures
finance.yahoo.com/

Calendars

marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
earningswhispers.com/calendar
cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

Boomer Investing 101:

bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

Misc:

finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
market24hclock.com/
wallmine.com/
fintel.io/
dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
brokerchooser.com/

TKD

Saved for the sake of posterity lmao

As a unemployable European I don't understand why Americans did this

Trust the plan

The stock market belongs to lolicons

I can see all of your souls at the edges of your eyes. Its corrosive, like acid. You got demons.

Down 0.66% today, how is everyone else?

Why is BABA up but AMZN down

Bear market tomorrow.

Really wish I was more irresponsible and went hard with WMT at 85

I agree.

excusatio non petita

the very fact he felt the need to underline it is extremely telling

futures

Pls no

Line went up because infinite congress budget and kicking the can down the road since 2008. We still havent paid the price of new fiscal policies put into place after the last crash, and covid money printing and low interest rates have kept it alive far longer than it should have. You need a downturn every 5-8 years to flush the bad companies and malinvestment out of the system. This is why you have +200 PEs on a lot of companies that bear little or no profit.

So yes, the market had record gains, but its not sustainable and needs a little reset.

To be fair, women are pretty retarded, naive, and childlike at best

lol

I would making bank if I kept my long positions last week but I sold them to get rekt by trump pussying on tariffs.

I haven't bought back in because I'm scared of him playing another round of hokey pokey and this time maybe he keeps them. Whatever I do the market will do the opposite anyway.

Elaborate

if we ignore the 25-30% of the population who are just outright miga cultists that have no thoughts of their own:
tens of millions of voters were ignorant retards who either didn't hear or deliberately ignored everything trump said during the campaign and figured this 2nd term would just be a rerun of his first, so good economy vaguely generic republican policy wise in most respects etc. the people (a separate 10-20% of the populace) that won trump the election while, they deserve to be mocked relentlessly for ignoring the obvious, did not vote for this insanity.

That's why I'm investing in non-US companies, they had proper recessions.

We need a strong statement to re-establish trust in the USD

Dont worry mr. president, I have an idea

kek

Bessent: "I don't want to make market calls but I think the Vix has peaked"

Retvrn to the gold standard, retvrn to common sense economics. Fiat is Death.

bullish for VIX

He's correct. To be a global reserve currency, you need to run a trade deficit. Which currency do you propose people switch to?

it's okay bobos I bought some calls on NVDA so go ahead and place your jorts

well time to buy Vix I see

What happened for the market to pump at 14pm only to dump at close now be red in AH? kek

Total value of already mined gold in the world: ~$15 Trillion.
Total value of goods+services trade in the world in a year: ~$30 Trillion.
Just mine more gold.

Return to Normal Volatility

Crabs are the reffies of Anon Babble, we always win.

I wish I knew who can move sp500 2% in a matter of minutes, its probably who did it

What are these giant scam candles on tqqq 1 minute mean. I've noticed the price always goes to where the wick peaked if you wait long enough.

I rather meant if there was some very specific news. Or earnings which is news.

It means the instrument is not liquid and some big player solded

Some hedgie swing traded, its the same volume on both candles

Fartcoin

why is dow trading so similarly to nasdaq since the whole tariff shit started when one of them in industrial and one of them is high tech

$Trump and $Melania

How does it get bought up or sold off right away though

Market has been so resilient that i think noone cares what orange man says anymore

Yeah, this I wondered too today. SPX was 1:1 with NDX today for a moment. At open AAPL and other tech was high, then they dumped but SPX was able to hold, so they pumped the money into other sectors. Some kind of contagionpump in hopes other sectors get exemptions too maybe and in the end I think Trump also said something in regards to cars again

Welcome to the wonderful land of market manipulation and cope.

Both of them are in vibes

motherfucker I dumped my TMC last month. and it pumped today. I bought that shit in January because I figured Trump would do some deep sea mining stuff, but then he went batshit on Canada. Dang it.

Another green day for my GOLD MINING STOCKS

What the actual fuck is wrong with you people?
Why aren't you buying?

I know, I've seen these moves other times. Even when there was no apparent reason. But this time I wasn't trading so I don't know if there was "no news", which is why I'm asking if maybe there was some news or it was just a retardpump into dump again

Same thing happened on futures today

There really wasn't much today that would justify that particular move.

The second I buy anything it'll dump.

For my gold position in my portfolio I am 40% miners, 50% spot price, and %10 leverage spot price (Too expensive due to vix to buy calls)

ATH and forever bull run resuming any day now

I've managed to time an entry into both TLT & FXI without dying. I expect that to change soon.

The orange boomer is just the tip of the iceberg imo.
Also uncertainty is not good for business.

US is Intel/Nvidia territory exclusively. They will just play with TSM, don't bother with the gooks and put money on Intel.

t. someone who lost money on TSMC.

I hate BABA stock, I keep trying to do weird options but there is no fucking liquidity. I just want to do a bull call spread but it never lets me I wasted an entire hour doing that because I can't find one that isn't a damn 40 dollar spread I just want to pay 36 and so I can afford to get life changing money shit its frustrating.

I realize that HEM I think it is was a insane buy but I just felt like buying January 2026 70C was so boring. You are right though because oil prices are crashing which makes mining gold really cheap and this will cause earnings to beat and deals to get made for sure. Would definitely say good call anon.

I refuse to buy mining stocks after falling for a certain jeet shilled silver mine here. I realize they're not all scams but it left a very bad taste in my mouth.

PSA: Even though we ended green, the market rejected its resistance point of 5445 like 3 times.

If it can break past this in the next 1-2 weeks, it'll be a rocket. If it can't, we'll dump back down and test ~5k. Final resistance is at 4700, if it drops there bottom is anyone's guess (probably 4k). Even the most optimistic bulls are setting price targets of 5800 this year, which is dogshit and won't even beat out a falling dollar. Liquidity crunch still isn't off the menu. Bears already got liquidated, so any hope of a "short squeeze" from ballsy bears is probably out the window.

I highly doubt there will be a new ath with trump in office.

Also 2nd PSA:
Nobody, not even CEOs of companies releasing earnings give a fuck about earnings. It's all about guidance.

Tons of companies already pulled 2025 guidance. Even if earnings come in waaaay above expectations, it's already priced-in since most people expect a "panic buy" as these tariffs were hitting.

This has gotten too dumb.
I'm out for the next couple months.

who are just outright miga cultists that have no thoughts of their own

whatabout the libtard cultists that have no thoughts of their own? At least they will take up weapons and molotovs and get out there and do something, the trumptards just stay home.

See you tomorrow.

No Ozen, it will be another crab day

When I overheard the kids working valet discussing their stock picks I knew the market was too popular for its own good and got out. The only question now is have we bottomed or will the bottom fall out.

I swear the worst thing that could happen to me right now is an IV crush (which is happening).

I would almost welcome another 15% green market day at this point, because at least that's a chance to open some more puts for the inevitable dump a day after. All my puts are bleeding heavily even though they're dated 9+ months out.

I kek'd irl

The watch bubble popped in 2023 and it's interesting how their stock seems to trade in sympathy with Rolex prices

Why are we still dumping in aftermarket, soxl turned red

Why is this place swarming with tourists?
Trump die hards and tranniecores.

What about making money?
How can I come back from Anon Babble like this?

checked holy digits

still.

There's more sellers than there are buyers

Haven't you noticed we've entered the point of no return into the clownworld? Now trump's tweets is what your deposit entirely depends on.

Anyone buying Oil?

not TSMC, TMC. the mining company

It's even worse on the weekends. Dedicated teams to shit up /smg/ 24 7. I have no clue what anyone has to gain from it either

I think America will be the reserve currency by any means. My prediction is that Trump uses Bitcoin reserve to undergird the dollar. All it needs to do is not go under DXY 85 because it has been that low before and nothing happened. The boom that causes in Bitcoin will work. My second prediction is China will hurry quantum computers and focus down narrowly on hacking BTC, this will finally take USA down into the shitter.

I already have a bunch of Exxon and Valero, anything else I should invest in?

Anyone else trading 0dtes on spy? Ive had very good profits catching daily trend reversals on sp500, I didnt know its that easy. Its only been a month though maybe its just luck

Check out the price appreciation and dividend on EPD

My net worth was 98k before the tariffs struck
Now it’s 90k, and it would’ve been 89k had I not received my last paycheck and saved it as cash

I trade close to expiry tqqq options

People can easily afford to pay 20 bucks for a polyester miniskirt that used to cost 10 bucks.
They're no big deal.

Then why did Trump win an entire election about eggs that normally cost $2.99 costing 3 dollars more than that?

He won because the competition was a black woman

TGT and BBY are looking quite scoopable at this level, might have to wait a year or two but could be a double bagger

If only we only had to buy a single dress and nothing else in life

Muh cheap chink shit

Net worth is meaningless
People put their garbage car and house that isn't market ready and think that is their total value. I prefer just liquid assets.

what are the chances soxl hits 30 again? I'm getting tired of buying and selling for losses trying to time the bottom, I just want to hold, but there's also no catalyst like the AI bubble to bring it back up.

negates your gains

Don't time the bottom. Just buy 50-100 per day and average it out

lmao

You've been hit by, you've been struck by

the catalyst is the tariffs ending for fucking good, but since there's supposed to be new ones announced this week, no point holding SOXL for longer than a day

I want off this wild ride

Holding leverage ETF in this environment

SPXU today was at 25. It was at 25 when SPX was at 5642. It pretty much decay by 200 points in 2 fuckn weeks. Yes, bear etf are worse, but damn. All those leveraged etf might get fucked hard.

SPXL also lost like 4$ since April 3rd, meaning it was 4$ higher 2 weeks ago at the same price of SPX.

With how safe El Salvadore is now, shouldnt people be investing more there?

Prepare uranus tomorrow bulls.

Most of them will be insolvent. Literally every single leveraged ETF has a disclaimer saying they’re a product designed for intraday trading by day traders, and not to hold them long-term or you WILL lose money. The fact SOXL baggies exist in this general should tell you all you need to know about the type of people you post with here.

Leverage is a great way to go broke when a madman controls the market and you use a wish machine from the movie Big.

mine more gold

Total of goods and services produced goes up

Nice plan genius

Then arent puts on leveraged ETFs free money if they're destined for insolvency?

production != international trade

Yeah the draw downs on down movements HURT.

It could turn shit again just as fast

Not for the next four years at least, El Salvadore is providing an essential service to the current administration and I doubt they will send glowniggers to overthrow one of the most popular presidents in the world.. But I mean I also invested in Indonesia and took a fat fucking dick down because the russel started kicking a bunch of their companies out of the index because they had too much insider ownership.

why'd futas go red

I could ask you why the birds have stopped chirping.

I could ask why the monkeys have stopped howling.

I could ask why the baboon ran back into The Cave.

All of them have the same answer.

I'm in tqqq with $45 average price. I buy more if it goes below that. I will make 50-100% within 3 years

tr*mp

You need to short both the long and short ETFs to collect on the volatility decay (so both TQQQ and SQQQ). And that would have high borrowing cost too, so you might be able to get it to work, but it's not a guarantee of mega profits or anything. Also, if one of them goes on a run of going the same direction for multiple days, then it actually beats 3X leverage over time and you lose.
There are some ETFs that will do this for you already.

GIVE
ME
STOCK
TICKERS
RIGHT
FUCKING
NOW

Yes but I'm afraid.

Saudi are now putting pressure on keeping the oil price DOWN and trying to diversify into manufacturing

Economy does not look healthy and likely we're risking stagflation or even significant dollar devaluation

Ukraine War will end at some point this year

Trump might actually puss out with Iran with everything else on his plate

The divvies will be nice I guess. BP is a mess at the moment but I can see it as a buy on how low it's sunk.

For sure. Definitely wouldn't mind maybe buying a home out there if it begins a full-on Singapore/Dubai boom era type of expansion. If things continue I could definitely El Salvador becoming a Dubai or Singapore of Central America.

snowline gold

I like to think that's all been priced in recently.

Another canal there could be beneficial there since the Panama canal is already having problems

Average IQ in El Salvador: 85
Average IQ in Singapore: 105

Canal to where?

Yeah, that's the problem with darker skinned areas. Average IQs are typically ass.

But with as long as their ruler has an iron fist and retard wrangles them, things will continue to improve.

I sold everything and staying in cash. Trump obviously doesn’t have the chops to keep out. Previously booming, economy healthy.

oh i'm retarded, I thought it was Nicaragua. Yeah they're limited. At least they can better support a service based economy and more primary resource extraction.

The US should have never given up the Canal, what a stupid fucking decision. One of the stupidest fucking things in our nation's history. Giving the most important trading shortcut in the world to a bunch of sub 85IQ, disloyal retards.

wasn't the reserve status idea that you don't have to worry about these things and can just make more debt to cover whatever needs

Cute. Now post the IQ's the Arabs in Dubai. Either way, most third world country capital cities are nicer than Democrat controlled shithole coastal cities anyways (eg Bangkok and Da Nang in Southeast Asia vs US Democrat coastal shitholes like Los Angeles and NYC).

SPEAK ENGLISH

The US should have never given up the Canal, what a stupid fucking decision.

Blame the banks and the Fed. Ultimately that was their fault. Banks made giant loans to Panama, Panama got itself so deep in debt it can't pay it back, gotta save the banks or else we'll see the financial system collapse, hey if we give Panama the canal then they can pay their loans back using the canal earnings!

was an incompetent, ratarded black woman

I’m European sorry

I’m European sorry

Why yes, I speak european

Vance dropped the ball (trophy)

If tomorrow doesn't dump hard I will be financially ruined

Violent crabbing maybe

protip in case it does go down: don't get greedy

orange nigger raped my puts in the ass with the 90 day pause

we're screwed

I still can't believe he walks around in brownface all day.

It's literally over tomorrow isn't it bros
youtube.com/watch?v=2A6hG6Xg6zQ&ab_channel=Don'sTunes

what is the market going to do

Gold holders will stay comfy i think

checked
disgusting

unironic whataboutism

is this the brightest Anon Babble has to offer?
biden faked gdp numbers to prevent mass sell offs.

I hope by hold you mean you keep your ingots buried in the yard rather than in the supposed custody of some sheister

Dollar denominated crabbing amidst rapid inflation
Bitfuck will go down with the market until it suddenly rockets toward infinity against USD

Doesn't matter either way, I intend on going balls deep back into bitfuck at a certain crucial moment before the big final rugpull

I had a weekend away for trading for my birthday, and came back wiser.

I bought 40k of leveraged ETF's last week and they've been green for suspiciously long. I'm going to DCA liquidate within this week. Starting with YINN and LABU.

Destroy "FOMO" and the house-money effect. Secure profit.

The rest of my portfolio is in Metals. I've had enough of this ride.

Yeah i went long CVX a decent chunk

gain from it

distraction and narrative control

invested in it and commodities in general under the assumption they'd do well due to the tariff bullshit going-on. I was half right.

Nope, stinky green futes.

Stinky?

Another green day for my GOLD MINING STOCKS

looking good Graeme

they got confessed to by their senpai

How low could it conceivably go, if the worst fears come to pass? 50% haircut? Collapse of some foreign countries? How bad did it get in the great depression?

because a little exit liquidity was secured from people getting excited over a literal 1-2% increase and now comes the priming for a morning pump before dumping hard.

BAYHORSESIES
SADDLE UP
WE GONNA RIDE AGAIN

I think anything goes really at this point. People were getting hyped about "the biggest increase in the stock market EVAR" (which came after it dumped, and it still hasn't recovered to the high it dropped from), then they were jizzing themselves about nothingburger moves today, plus general uncertainty overall. To me that says a lot of cope and delusion, so if things go down big, who can say.

Is the market just disconnected from reality?

dumbass

50% to reach fair valuation.

another reminder I bought at the top of that jeet shilled mine. I keep the shares as reminder to not get fooled like that again.

I love this image so much. Dinosaurs was my shit as a kid lol

Red like puru eyes

that would have high borrowing cost too, so you might be able to get it to work, but it's not a guarantee of mega profits or anything. Also, if one of them goes on a run of going the same direction for multiple days, then it actually beats 3X leverage over time and you lose.

There are some ETFs that will do this for you already.

That's what I've been doing, could make about 1k a day if I could sell the same day I buy them. Still collect 100-300 per day doing this. Watch out for decay, don't hold for too long. Also got around 30 shares of each, being % Base the loss on SQQQ is lower than the rise on TQQQ so owning both shares and holding/selling at the peaks also yields 3-10% per swing.

ecuador is a good example of a "safe" latin american country spiraling fast
but I don't really see the conditions for a fast spiral yet in el salvador

Im sitting on 100k of cash just waiting to get some buying opportunities. I would get a boner that would last fora week if S&P500 went to 2500, i would mortgage my house and buy more.

running on hopium that trump will change his mind

A lot of insane TDS in this thread.

trumps keeps cucking just enough that the hopium supply has been neverending
I may disagree but it's not that crazy an assumption

Some of America’s biggest banks are limiting the sharing of information with the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency because they are concerned about potential security risks to their computer networks following a major hack of the regulator’s emails.

JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Bank of New York Mellon Corp. have paused sharing information with the agency electronically, according to people familiar with the matter. The moves follow a major breach of the OCC’s email system where hackers spied on more than 100 accounts over the course of more than a year, Bloomberg reported this month.

The OCC and the US Treasury deemed the breach a “major incident” that gave hackers access to highly-sensitive information about the financial health of federally-regulated financial firms. As well as standard financial information, the material banks regularly provide to the OCC includes reports about their cybersecurity protections, vulnerability assessments and even the content of National Security Letters which often include highly-confidential information about terrorism, espionage and other investigations, some of the people said.

from bloomberg
bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-14/jpmorgan-bny-limit-information-sharing-with-occ-after-hack?
bearish or bullish?

OH NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Trump slapped himself in the face and is desperate to find a way out

The US economy cannot withstand Trump's high tariffs.

Trump must compromise with reality, but he must also take into account his face and prestige, so there will be a lot of pretentious behavior.

udn.com/news/story/124438/8673178?from=udn-catebreaknews_ch2
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new Trump statement

"I don't change my mind but I'm flexible."