US Businesses to SUE American Gov't

Will it work?

LOL no! Trump has the support of over 50% of Americans. America is fucked.

I hope they fail, I have puts.

Deficits are not an emergency

Just start shooting capitalist jews and all this ends.

Idk, trade deficits have been around for decades, and imo and most economist think they're not bad or even good. The fact is they're not. But trump says everything is an emergency to justify anything. And they have a certain amount of yes men in the judicial branch. Its hard to sue a dictator even if the law is on your side.

people are tired of dropshipping parasites undermining actual jobs

"america is fucked"

You're exactly the kind of parasite that needs to be removed.

how is a trade deficit an emergency? why are we sending white collar jobs overseas and trying to get low skill, low margin, low wage factory jobs?

No. The laws are clear. Congress has given the authority to declare emergencies with no reason. They have also given tariff authority.

Those dropshippers all voted for Trump after listening to Jake Paul's advice

Yeah if they try to mess with Trump he'll be certain to win the next election!

this is what i was fucking saying
trump has no authority to even do these tariffs
it's a power grab
hope they win

Jews using the Jewish system to attack their own Jewish puppet.

I'm surprised they didn't do this sooner.
A trade deficit is not a national emergency lmao
The fent crisis doesn't get solved with tariffs and the POTUS shouldn't bypass congress decisions in times of peace.

Legalese loser nerds BTFO. Cry more you fucking virgin dorks lol.

I still don't understand the tariff thing because it's effectively a treaty destroying power and only congress can make binding agreements against nations. It just seems so weird.

communism lost and you will never be a woman, kike

dropshipping parasites

not going anywhere faggot, amazon, walmart, target and every other major chain will continue to sell cheap crap for high margins and you'll like it

dorks

please go back

Congress granted presidents the authority to declare emergencies unilaterally, and they granted presidents the ability to regulate international commerce after declaring a national emergency.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Emergencies_Act
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Emergency_Economic_Powers_Act

As you can see, every president since it was passed has declared national emergencies.

Can't wait to see progressives back corporations to GET TRUMP!

It just seems so weird.

I agree kind sir that tariffs, and tariff man, are weird and therefore bad. And also, a ching chong ping, and a chong ping pong.

AKSHUALLY this graph says...

AKSHUALLY this law says...

AKSHUALLY this judge says...

AKSHUALLY this expert says...

AKSHUALLY this twitch streamer says...

So glad this era of terminally wrong and retarded parasites is finally coming to an end.

dropshipping

Yep, definitely a parasite. Fuck off, loser. You will never be a successful digital nomad.

Angry

yeah but before they had actual reasons

yes and people are questioning the validity of this "emergency". even a retarded cultist like you could acknowledge it wouldn't be valid to declare a national emergency because Trump claimed a space alien abducted him and told him that Serbia wants to blow up the white house.

So all 74 in the past were actual reasons? Like I said, every single president has declared multiple right at the start. The 'actual reason' is for more power.

What actual reasons? You mean like trannies not being able to get free estrogen pills courtesy of the tax payers' dollars?

Why do you retarded brown shitskins always jump in with your "cultist" talk. Everything I've pointed out is factual and informative.

that really is where this is heading, isn't it. trump declaring an insurrection/ national emergency and arrogating to himself emergency powers and instituting martial law and control over industries

No, that's schizo delusion.

Republicans already showed they can literally do anything if they get Trump to say it's an emergency (with no evidence) and get his weird cult constituants onboard so there is no political pressure on anyone in Congress to do anything.

The tariffs on Canada are the most egregious example. Placed first as part of the "fentanyl and immigrant emergency". Something like 48,000 illegal immigrants (ranging from straight border hoppers to overstaying visas) and 50 lbs of fentanyl came over the northern border. Trump said "millions and millions of illegals and thousands of pounds of fentanyl" were coming over and that's why it needed to be tariffed. When asked, team Trump will repeat the lies and then say that those numbers came over our northern, and then very hurriedly and quietly, and southern border.

Trump is literally defying a 9-0 SCOTUS decision, from his own packed court, regarding a man his own administration already admitted was a mistake in sending to El Salvador prison. There are no mechanisms the courts have to do anything, even if they ruled against him.

What is a lawsuit going to do?

not a cult

also you change your opinions overnight if he tells you to

30% of americans didnt even vote

Retarded brown shitskin, which of my posts indicated cultism? All I've posted are facts that inform people. Someone asked how he can do this, and I posted the fact that congress has granted that to presidents.
Why has another random shitskin jumped in?

digital nomad

I don't want that but it's funny how you accept authoritarianism and extra taxes with a gaping asshole when it's daddy trump putting them on.
And yes, even if you put blanket tariffs on everything you might kill the 14yo dropshipper but large chains will continue to sell that crap for higher prices now.

yes im sure you're a totally neutral person who has no strong feelings about any of this and is just trying to post helpful information

Why don't you respond to the facts, retarded brown shitskin instead of spamming politics. Go back to Anon Babble

that man is already dead, that much is clear based on how both presidents blame each other for being unable to return him

China needs to stop the fentanyl. Otherwise, tariff pain continues.
Ping pong!

everyone i dont like is brown

you sound mentally ill

DRUMPF ISN'T ALLOWING US TO USE PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE CHINESIUM FOR 250% PROFITS

You literally haven't made a single on-topic post yet. Why are you spreading the shit from your skin everywhere?

retarded brown shitskin

spamming politics

you are the one who should go back retard

take your meds before posting pls

I answered the OP's question with sources. Go back to Anon Babble, shitskin.
You literally haven't made a single on-topic post yet. Go back to Anon Babble, shitskin.

the problem is that if they try to check it, who determines if its actually an emergency?

congress, senate? bought sycophants or cowards too afraid of a primary to defy maga

supreme court? majority trump appointed partisan picks

lower courts? ignore the order/appeal until it gets to the supreme court, then see above

FTC, SCC? regulatory power gutted, mass layoffs, further questions sic the DOGE on em.

there are no more checks anymore. the brakes have been removed from the train.

Having millions of people swarm the border and losing trillions to a bunch of European faggots in trade is an emergency if you're straight.

You retards never have anything beyond the surface level soundbytes repeated over and over by the corporate media.
Fentanyl precursors were tariffed from Mexico years ago so they got rerouted through Canada. The guy is now under El Salvadorian jurisdiction, a judge in the US can't demand an El Salvadorian gets transported to the US and if he did somehow he would still get sent back eventually after some rubber stamping.

shitskin

shitskin

shitskin

you are clearly a boomer from a /ptg/ thread, just go back please

I don't know what that is, shitskin, go back to Anon Babble instead of spamming off-topic.

of over 50% of Americans

is this the power of american education?

Maybe. I don't think they're really blaming each other though; they're both using it as political theater. Trump paid El Salvador what? Was it 6 million? Something like that to take the prisoners. The people Trump shipped were all black bagged with no due process and like 70% of them have no criminal record. It dust matter if they were "bad ones" or not, despite all of Trump's rhetoric about bad hombres that bonk grandmas on the head. It's all just a mostly hollow show of strength and fear mongering. The Garcia guy is the most visible example because there were explicit court orders to not deport him because he was fleeing gang violence in 2019. There's also the gay hairdresser that they bagged and shipped. It's obvious that these people aren't gang members when the tattoos used as evidence by the administration are images taken from random tattoo idea boards and fucking Real Madrid crowns over a hearts with dad and mom's name.

Trump gets to pay strong man, so he can't back down and admit he fucked up and the El Salvador guy ran his political career on cleaning the streets and sending all criminals to his maxsec prison he made; he can't admit that he's filing it with scapegoats.

They both win with their fanbases by blowing raspberries at legal bodies telling them to bring the guy back. They're not going to do anything even if he is still alive.

your "cultist" talk

Many angry americans in this thread

Stop shopping. Then they don't make money from the tariffs and they lose taxable revenue on the other end.

Kek

You're in a cult, get out

Can't congress stop the payments to El Salvador though?

No, no, it's not a cult, totally normal behavior.

It's only use is encouraging companies to develop at home, but a lot of people don't point enough that usually you only do this in a pre industrial country, not one that has already been established and made thousands of agreements for centuries.
Trying to force a import heavy country to export country is like getting dental work from a convicted murderer high on meth and expecting a everything to be fine.

28%.

I hope so.
We have a convoluted system of checks and balances, to prevent this kind of overreach, from one bad actor that grifts their way into the White House.

congress could do a lot of things but won't because they care more about getting reelected than doing the right thing

What concerns me is just like putin he's put a retard maddog as his second in command so noone will impeach him because Vance is worse.

America PAYS El Salvador to house prisoners there, wtf do you mean by “it’s outside jurisdiction” lmao

Yeah, totally normal

Are you just now realizing why Biden picked Kamala?

We're rapidly reaching the point where the only way of divesting Trump from power in the face of horrific abuse is a successful assassination

I want off.

Then kys

they just rerouted it all from Mexico to Canada!

which is why the numbers from Canada from last year are so small

Dipshit.

Regarding the guy, the courts ruled the guy couldn't be deported in 2019. He was still black bagged.
The courts ruled he should be returned while the plane was still in flight. Trump shrugged and said, "Too bad, he's over international waters. There's nothing we can do."
It went up to SCOTUS and they ruled the administration needs to facilitate his return. Trump's team wheedle this as "maybe we'll give him an airplane to come back if they let him out of prison, but they definitely won't let him out of the prison we paid to use because he's a dangerous terrorist, isn't that right? These are sick people that want criminals out of jail."

I'm surprised you can type such a retarded post from down there between Trump's legs. Take care not to suffocate on his cock.

vance may be worse in theory but in practice he isn't
you have to remember the sole reason trump gets away with the shit he does is because of his fervent maga fanbase who the republican party needs to court to get reelected. vance is a charisma vacuum could never keep the movement alive.

Vance would probably get himself impeached not long after coming into power.

they are arguing that yes, blumpf can declare an emergency for literally any made up reason lol

LOL

lmao
check your congress : x.com/RT_com/status/1888365524704546890

never stop posting this kek

Does he STILL? I don't believe it after the tariff fiasco. When was the last poll.

Now do the same chart with liberals opinions on Ukraine and Palestine...oh wait that would make you look like a hypocrite. Leftists have the mind of an etch-e-sletch

As I said before, there's no pressure on Congress to do anything as soon as Trump's cult buys in to what he says. Republicans have a majority everywhere. You saw some people like Ted Cruz pull back and say they don't like tariffs when all the lines were red and grandma's 401k dissolved by like 20% because it might have angered their voter base, but once Trump does his show and his voters fall in line, they have nothing to worry about. And no incentive to do anything.

People are predicting a lot of stuff is going to flip in the midterms because Trump is drunk at the wheel and his inner circle is comically inept and giving confused, contradictory answers to everything. So you might see some people very slightly pull back on Trump, but that'll depend on whether or not the economy recovers. It's not that bad right now and Trump is doing that thing where he scribbles his name on the previous president's homework and says it's his (CHIPS act ver1.1 incoming), so maybe they'll be fine.

The far right at least talks about this, go up to a leftist and tell them you're sick of funding zelenski and they'll projectile vomit on you like you were a tesla.

People's support gets drummed up when something terrible happens to a place

Canada and the EU didn't change anything overnight. Ukraine was invaded and Palestine got massacred. People went to sleep not thinking about them and woke up to seeing thousands dead, as opposed to going asleep not thinking about Canada and the EU and waking up to see Trump throwing a fit about them.

how about you show us this chart if it's so damning? that's how it's supposed to work, migatard.

yes, so true, as we can see everyday here, miggers are totally resonable people you can talk to without them losing their minds

Most people were unaware how fucked we were on trade, now they know. And the fact they now know seems to make kikes mad

I don't doubt a chart would show a similar spike of support. The issue is context: see

Except it was bullshit. Trump lied to them overnight and they immediately believed him instead of the facts.

He literally still uses the "CANADA HAD 200% TARIFFS ON US!" lie even though you can go onto the USMCA and see that isn't true. And he knows it isn't true because he fucking wrote it.

Oh yeah, they're totally comparable you absolute retard

17

The hell happened to Clinton?

loli faggot thinks he's sociable

Yeah ok..
How are they not?

thank you for speaking out against big palestine and big ukraine these are the REAL issues in america

Anya

loli

you should go back

don't question the hundreds of billions we've sent to prolong a foreign war anon, it's rude

the left would literally vote to go get you blown up in some retarded euro-war than let putin take a W on anything. Personally I'd nuke israel and palestine both just to not have to hear about their shit anymore.

No I think you'd fit in with the pedophiles there, they love that shit. How many pictures of animated children do you have saved?

americans are so fucked in the head, man. so brainwashed...
some of them now celebrate paying more taxes to "own china". like, wtf

pay more taxes

Trump is getting rid of income taxes.

it's literally a cult. there are people who believe that trump was selected by god to save america

He's one of those faggots who think a tariff is a tax, when really all you have to do is not buy garbage lead covered shit from China. Their shopping addiction withdrawls are making them lash out

AKA printing money while other countries are dumping dollars and raising prices

sure he is
where's he gonna get all the money to do that when he still had to raise the debt ceiling yet again just to keep his existing tax cuts?

import taxes are not taxes

lol just changing the definition of words totally not a cult btw

If you don't oay taxes, the irs shoots you. If you don't buy shit from China, nothing happens. How is it a tax? Are you addicted to temu?

Have you heard of these new things called tariffs?

You think the income tax is a tax, when really all you have to do is be unemployed

if you think a 10% consumption tax can replace income tax you are genuinely deluded

Income taxes aren't taxes, just don't make money. It's not a tax. Also lol if you think that cheap plastic garbage is the only thing that gets imported from china

I will never understand Christians love for Trump. No seriously.
youtu.be/ERUngQUCsyE

It's way more than 10% and if you followed the news you'd know he said he was only getting g rid of income tax for like the bottom 60% of earners, the vast majority of it comes from billionaires, combined with tariffs the gov will bring in more than before.

I can't exist without my chink shit

Yeah, you said that already...is that all?

Liberals never gave a shit about Jews. Pretty sure they hated Israel long before the current thing.

Yes please daddy tax me more I love tax.. *cough* tariffs

If your only response is "nu-uh!" then i'm going to take that as an admission that i'm right.

The reason for the tariffs on China and bordering countries is: FENTANYL

Stop the Guo Poisoning, and the tariffs get removed
Yes we know about Gudao
We have five eyes

I know, they got goaded into sympathy for Palestinians the same way they fell for the ukraine shtick. Now they're back to being the pro war party, they even have cheney on their side kek
Pretty gay burn anon, try again
Wait you didn't think you were right when you started this bitching?? You were just bitching to bitch then?

and Santa Claus is real.

I put my 401k, which I had in a slow 4% APY fund my entire life, into QQQ to "buy the dip" a month ago and already have gone from 250k to 210k which is 3/4 what I made in a year.

yesterday it was "tariffs are just a negotiating tactic" and the day before that it was "tariffs are for bringing manufacturing back to america" and now it's fentanyl?

way more than 10% on consumption tax

income tax rate for average american is 15%

wow sounds like its actually a net loss then, great

lol are you esl?

The device you're using to type this was probably made in china.

It's always been fentanyl you dull creature. I'm sorry you don't have access to higher dimensions where such things can be felt. Maybe you should stop taking fentanyl

Qqq is only down 4% from last month though?

1pbtID twitter bot thread

Holy FUCK why can't something be done about this like some kinda bot detection? But in reality it's probably an army of real pajeets who just spam the boards with this nonsense

Christians

more like zogged evangelicals

Overall, about three-quarters of households would get a tax cut, while about 10% would get a tax increase, according to the Tax Policy Center analysis. The percentage of winners and losers would vary by income category, TPC found: “About 86% of middle-income households would get a tax cut” while “about 13% would see their taxes rise.” Among the top 1%, “taxes would fall for about 81%, while they’d rise for 19%.”

Tariffs are a tax on import consumers, which are mostly poor, or companies which sell to the poor.

Pretending Trump isn't helping the rich get rich is ballsy to me idk why people even like like that.

But suing is possible regardless of that being lawful. It's just more of our money being wasted on both sides from frivolous cases

I will literally die without my tiktoks

Yes WE KNOW, stop repeating yourself nigger
We'll be losing almost nothing in tax revenue, while simultaneously making hundreds of billions in tariffs. Where's the loss, show your work anon.

I'm a low-impulse control retard who can't stop shopping for plastic trash on Temu

Literally you. Might as well just call it a "retard consoomer tax" and be done with it. I have no problem with this whatsoever.

Except people are gonna buy less and make less money due to tariffs so tax income will go down

There is no alternative for rare earth, china is the only country that can supply us with enough.

National blueball emergency, hilldawg wasn't putting out and billyboy had a presidential nut to bust. The job was outsourced to a private contractor.

Why are you assuming I'm poor lmao. I suppose you can't face the reality that the US poor can only afford the cheapest products, which sohappen to be chinkslop.

Just say you hate the poor stop lying already.

the american people will be losing money because they will be paying more per your own argument

They'll make more due to tariffs, more jobs in America, less spics and Nigerians fresh off the boat to take them. Whoops maybe you fall into that group and that's why you're upset.
Then go move there and get eaten by an escalator

getting rid of the gov's biggest source of income while facing a debt crisis

lol LMAO even

Is the person with a gun to your head forcing you to buy only foreign goods in the room with us now anon? Point them out so I can see them

Do you have any actual arguments?

its cute you want the tariffs to be enough to replace income tax but also want them to be optional
you can't have it both ways

Continuing, nearly every American producer moved to Chyna to survive, almost every single brand.
The rich do not need to consume imports, nearly all of their wealth is invested, the poor however have a much higher ratio on consumable products per income ratio, and the middle class are mega consumer whores, meaning that tariffs are a much larger direct tax on the poor and middle classes in America.

Fuck em. They have no say either way then

Put down the credit card. It's literally just that easy. Do you know how low IQ you sound?

They'll make more due to tariffs

People are gonna buy less due to tariffs

which is it you retarded drooling mongoloid

PLEASE RESPOND TO ME IM DESPERATE FOR ATTENTION

Have you noticed that I'm actually responding to the other people and not you? It's because your posts are retarded and you aren't worth talking to. Even these other retards who I ideologically loathe are at least saying something worth responding to. You just keep whining about your shopping addiction. This is the last pity (you) for you anon.

I bought it 491, feels like it's gonna be hard to get back

No, but across the street there's a manufacturing company that imports foreign parts that aren't made in the US. Pic related.

You just keep whining about your shopping addiction.

No, that's just some weird thing you keep repeating over and over again because you have no actual arguments. How do you expect to rebuild manufacturing after you double the price of certain raw materials?

fee.org/articles/tariffs-hurt-the-poorest-the-most/
People have to buy things to live retard. Nearly all cars involve imported parts.
You devolve into "temutrash" rhetoric because you are retarded and have no idea how much tariffs end up fuclikg consumers even on "American made (chink imported parts)" brands.

You are actively making it harder for the poor and middle clases by removing income taxes and implementing significant tariffs well above the normal tax rate, and yet these retard goys eat it up as if they're not being taxed while the billionaires pass on all costs to poor consumers kek.

Then sell and stop thinking about it?
Then they're probably currently looking for new suppliers. So?

Again, not a hint of thought or even basic literacy. What's the point in mindlessly parroting this shit over and over as if anyone on the entire planet hasn't already heard it a million times? Fentanyl precursors not fentanyl.
reuters.com/investigates/special-report/drugs-fentanyl-shipping/
The terrorist is now under Bukakke jurisdiction where he belongs and there's nothing a US judge can do to force Bukkake to do anything.

If this does work it's simply a confirmation that there is no such thing as sovereignty for the USA or her people. It would be proof we live in a coporatocracy.

If they were so bad why weren't you outraged when Biden KEPT trumps China tariffs?

Tariffs work short term on specific industries when you are trying to stop uneconomic dumping. In the long run they are good for weathering chink market manipulation, but it does make you less competitive, however, you dont need them for the rest of the world because innovation and local production can survive, but it's not just on chink imports it's 10% everywhere in this scenario, absolutely sabotaging the poor who are barely surviving as it is due to wealth consolidation and wage suppression.

Switch 2 and iphones a few hundred bucks more expensive

OMG this a tax on the lower and middle class!

My biggest discretionary purchases that I buy are maybe a new smartphone and a new laptop/computer once every 5 years at a maximum- a price increase on these is a small drop in the bucket compared to the savings that I will incur on slashed income taxes. My food and other defensive purchases come from the US and will always cost the same. You're not fooling anyone except other low IQ consoomers addicted to plastic fantastic dopamine trinket trash. Fuck off.

It's a cope though, most people aren't buying it.
Also low nutrient slop foods are cheaper than healthy ones, and they're mostly made in the USA, that's why the poor eat it, it's not because they're inherently lazy and stupid though that is part of it, you are retarded.

You said it better than I could. Picrel could be applied to these people today and it would still be 100% accurate

Do you even read the shit you post?

"durr they're coming through Canada see"

atrticle is about how waves of fent and fent precursors come through legal ports of US entry from China and Mexico, Canada mentioned what? Once?

Fucking dipshit.

"The terrorist (no criminal record in either country and Trump's admin already admitted they fucked up publicly) is under El Salvador's jurisdiction, there's nothing Trump can do!"

literally has leader sitting in chair next to him and could ask to let the one innocent guy the media cares about be released from the prisons Trump paid for

does nothing but call him a terrorist over and over and shame anyone that wants to let him go

You must be a bot.

anybody who is agaisnt tarrifs is not a biznessmen. This is an opportunity to make anything you want and invest in it.

Once again reducing the issue to goystuff rather than appliances, cars, sofas, utensils, plates, clothing, things people need

You are not arguing in good faith faggot. The poor consoooom the least because they are poor.

New cope just dropped

I'm obese. And that's like...YOUR problem man

I hope you have a heart attack tonight you whiny fuck

Investing locally for just 4 years of 10% tariffs

Not even worth waking up for retard, and your advantage died when the Blue wave rides a tariff depression meaning you invested in production for nothing

low nutrient slop foods are cheaper than healthy ones

100% bullshit. Bananas, onions, potatoes, etc... ate so cheap to buy in bulk, just because you want slop food doesn't mean it's not expensive. I can buy a bunch of chicken breasts and onion, flour, potatoes, eggs etc for WAYYY fuckin cheaper than a bags of chips, cheap candy that actually costs a lot for the amount you get. Then the price of fast food has skyrocketed, no fucking way is it cheaper to eat sugar crap than buying ng vegetables ables and fruits in bulk, portioning it out and freezing things.

Ohh but it takes so much time

Good, you should spend time on nutrition. It's literally your fucking health.

well the implementation is shit but its only been 3 months...

won't even have to be a blue wave when midterms come around, 2 years of these tariffs will even have red candidates saying they will vote to get rid of them

I guess you must know more than Tim Cook and Wei about business then, they just invested a trillion dollars into the US you should go give them some advice in sure they haven't thought about this as much as you.

I'm sorry what cope. Provide an argument.
Tariffs are a primary tax on the poor per wage earned.
Tax cuts primarily advantaged the rich since they import barely anything expensive with most costs going to service and assets.
Trump is screwing average Americans directly with higher product costs for no economic gain due to the tariffs being too short and the goys slurp it up kek.

The left as a party are polling at their lowest in decades..

appliances, cars, sofas, utensils, plates, clothing, things people need

Yes because a single person living within his/her needs must make large purchases like furniture, appliances, utensils and plates every other day of the week, and not once every 5 to 10 years.

The poor consoooom the least because they are poor.

The poor live financed lifestyles on credit with high interest rates well above their means, which is why they are poor to begin with.

yeah, and they've just been handed one of the biggest possible free wins despite that

Yeah, kek too true. look at the post right above you trying to say slop sugar crap food is cheaper than budgeting and buying healthy foods in bulk. It's insanity

tariffs work BUT...

You're starting to slip anon. Just stop buying chink shit, it's literally shrimple as that.

They invested trillions to control more of the market for when it turns around after the presidency.
So no, probably not, but also you certainly have no idea what you're talking about.

They make up a larger percentage of their income you slow brained mongol.
You didn't read the fucking article I linked did you.
Nonsense. Nearly all of those are imported by the way, the cheap goyslop you cry about isn't affected by tariffs.

two weeks

I'll believe it when I see it. Most of your voters just got sent back to El Salvador though

you probably think chinese shit isn't integral to all sorts of industries, am i right

They're gluttons in every sense of the word

It is. Because you can buy cheap goyslop in bulk too.

the simple fact is if these tariffs are going to stay during trump's entire term they are going to cost republicans the next term, there is no ifs and buts about out, thats how our political system works, the guy in office does something people don't like so they vote for the other guy
its circle of life, believe what you want, but its how it always goes

You didn't read the fucking article I linked did you.

Nope, I didn't. I know what I say to be true based on my own circumstances and the circumstances of nearly everyone around me. I'm done with you people posting propaganda from "experts" that turns out to be wrong at best, and an insidious trap that plays in the favor of a select few at worst. Tried to listen to you people during COVID and I will never make that mistake ever again. See here...

Nope, I didn't.

I'm not reading the rest of your shit then.
Argue in good faith or fuck off.

They're imported....from Idaho you stupid fat fuck, you really out there buying Chinese potatoes? Wish RFK would declare a national emergency on obesity, give citizens 100 days to reach a normal BMI or get sent to guantanamo

Christ is King or something

I can survive in potatoes and onions

Lmao I hope you do as you enjoy malnutrition. They're as low in nutrients as you can get they're basically goyslop but with no calories.

buy whole chickens. way cheaper than buying specific cuts, larger breasts, bones for broth, etc. i like to reduce the broth down and then freeze it in ice cube trays. you can fortify plenty of dishes with it.

Nonsense. Nearly all of those are imported

Kek, that's a huge lie as well. Most of the groceries I buy are from California farms, beef and chicken from America too. You're just retarded and don't understand how to budget and eat healthy. Like I've said youve been conditioned to be retarded and eat like shit because you bought a huge lie. Next time I go shopping I'll post a receipt and where the products came from. Most of them will be from America. It's not even hard to budget and buy some stuff from superstores then buy a bit from farmers markets. I mean unless you have to pay off a new car, mortgage, cell phone loan, etc... like a true consumer zombie buying outside of your means. Since when did Republicans(me) become the new left? Wtf is happening

And Hillary is going to beat Trump amiright xisters?

ah yes, delicious idaho bananas. almost as good as north dakota vanilla

lol i asked him about rare earths and he started screeching about chinese escalators

let me build my TV fab real quick

ad hominems don't change reality

shifting the goalposts as soon as he's proven wrong again

Shocker

nigger mad his banana will go from $1 to $1.25

Dont your EBTs cover that for you though?

no bros. you invest in the tv fab.

Why would I want to change reality, I won, and you lost

The poor live financed lifestyles on credit with high interest rates well above their means, which is why your entire financial system will implode and you'll keep seething for the foreseeable future as you'll build phones for your chinese overlords

it's not happening

ok it is happening but it's a good thing that it's happening

Guess I'm actually siding with corporate america for once lol

again, you don't understand the american political system if you think its that simple
most of these changes will be undone in 4 years
enjoy it while it lasts, because it won't

the way out of a spending problem is.....spending MORE!

Keynesian economists get the wood chipper

The thread devolves from "tariffs in imports are making everything from farm equipment to cars more expensive for every poor and middle class person, because theyre being taxed indirectly"

To

"Why are they struggling maybe they should budget and buy in bulk better haha"

Heaven forbid the richest country on the planets poor has any disposable income kek
I hope you're not struggling when you get older.
YOU WILL EAT THE BOILED ONIONS

You are being indirectly taxed by Trump despite his love of lower taxes, but you defend him, I actually kek.
I repeat again, the entire supply chain for the machines that make your food requires imports, such as tractor parts and raw materials, regardless of how frugal you are and how much you think the poor are bad money managers, this is still a tax on you and them.

the entire american diet is built upon bananas and vanilla bean espressos

The absolute state of fat faggots.

You think you can keep this cope up for 930 more days? You're already feeling pretty low energy as it is

Heaven forbid the richest country on the planets poor has any disposable income kek

What part of Trump is getting rid of income taxes do you not understand?

What did you eat for breakfast today anon?

I don't have to keep anything up because I know how the system works. Its a seesaw, for better or worse.

shifting the goalposts as soon as he's proven wrong again

You shifted them from tariffs causing everything to go up to food for some reason enjoy it nigger.

You are being taxed because all the farm equipment that makes your home grown food requires imports, all products require steel or resources imported from abroad. Everything you buy has roots somehow abroad, be it production line machinery to parts of cars that move stuff around to everything.

You are being taxed indirectly massively and you accept it because you're a cuck.

The deficit will be paid off of your backs. It's not magically paid off, the money comes from somewhere you economically illiterate freaks.

YOU ARE BEING TAXED.

I'm just trying to think of what happened the last two times dems were confident they would win...let me see if I remember....oh yeah they lost kek

YOU WILL EAT THE BOILED ONIONS

Who tf boils onions? This is a testament to your ignorance of cooking and health. Making onions rings at home is not hard. They don't need to be deep fried on oils to taste good. You're an absolute mongoloid. Same with fries, you can cut potatoes into fries and microwave them with a bit of salt and pepper if you don't have a stove for whatever fucking reason. You're whole argument is null

Again, you aren't seeing the big picture. trumps wins were part of the seesaw. Everything is functioning exactly how it always does.

What part of prices for everything going up because of tariffs on everything do you not understand.
The entire chain of everything requires imports. Yes, everything, if the manufacturing chain involves a car at all, you pay for it, if it involves bearings, you pay for it. Steel for rails? Pay for it from imported coking coal.

The costs will come to you directly when you buy everything. And you will buy it like a cuck.

Actually anon it's because your brain imploded and you said we import our potatoes...do you not remember that? I'm being taxed massively? Why are eggs and gas cheaper?

Deflecting to a onions meme and taking it seriously while ignoring the main point

Kys.

Blueberries , strawberries, bananas, apples, oranges all come in bulk packages and cost 5 bucks or less, unless you shell out for co-op stuff. 80% is from America, and if we stopped exporting so much food, it'd be even cheaper to buy them here. And for the record YOU shifted the conversation because i mentioned budgeting and eating healthy, which is a huge part of Americans budget, FOOD. You're fucking retarded.

The supply chain that digs and transports potatoes up requires machinery and parts that you import nigger. I also didn't say potatoes specifically. Go back and find the quote mentioning imported potatoes, I said nearly all, meaning "good healthy foods", potatoes was not directly references you made that connection yourself.

Enjoy defending higher prices because you are cuckolds, I certainly won't.

You're right that the pendulum is shifting back towards the right, what you're wrong about though it's thinking it will be quick. There's about 40 more years of Republicans winning elections. You might be too young to even know this but we are only just now exiting the most left wing society in at least 100 years. Trump is actually a center-left president by historical standards.

I accept your concession

oh I see you are actually delusional
carry on

And when the supply chain as a whole gets more expensive and your food prices rise you can thank Vance and Trump for it.
DO NOT MEMORYHOLE IT you fucking faggot. I hope you accept your cuck tax every time you look at your shopping bill.

No, you'll be in a prison in El Salvador or something.

Weren't you the one talking about seesaws? Did you fall off the monkey bars during recess?

I only want cheap prices from slave labor a roos seas so I don't have to think about it

That's your whole persona. Potatoes are a staple and they have double the potassium than a banana. We don't need to import machinery that farmers use to farm potatoes. It's part of trade, we have the abilities to stop sending our steel overseas and make competitively priced machinery here.

Not brown. So no.
Not poor either, but I don't like hidden taxes and economically illiterate retards that think they're going to be magically better off somehow while paying off a years worth of GDP in debt while "somehow" lowering taxes.

You are as retarded as they get, absolute tiny brained niggers.

Kinda like how on Bidens first day of office he signed two executive orders that led to gas doubling in price in just a year? Like that kind of paying for it? The kind you were fine with?

I already addressed that. We are one of the largest exporters of food, specifically to places that pay us less for that food than Americans pay. If we stop doing that, prices come down on America made food and more food is available. We already throw away so much fucking food as it is. You have no argument

has to change the subject and start making up strawmen to argue with

LOLLLLLL

So I'm sure you were cursing Biden during his administration for all the inflation as well? Or did you just now get programmed to care about that?

gas doubles under Biden, I sleep

trump makes some tariffs, I mad

Nigger tier logic

you invest in the tv fab

theregister.com/2020/10/20/wisconsin_foxconn_factory/
kek

Biden was your candidate for the last election, then kamala when the leftist puppet handlers told you he was unfit for presidency. Kamala said she was going to continue bidens policies for the most part, that's a huge factor in his reasoning.

Do you get paid for each post

Only the ones you respond to

I will never understand Christians love for Trump. No seriously.

Americans are not Christian, they are ''Christian''.

Whataboooot

How are you going to pay off the years worth of GDP deficit with no taxes on consumers anon
Please explain your reasoning.

I feel like someone is testing their bot or their trolling skills ITT

These people have no intention of having honest conversation.

i never voted for biden or kamala. you have resorted to arguing with a fake person in your head. miggers are fucking insane

I didn't approve that counterargument! Mods! Ban him!

You must be illiterate because I've already quoted trumps admin on this, income taxes are only being canceled for the bottom half of the country (which basically only pays 10% of the total amount of income tax recieved). That will be more than made up by amount of money tariffs bring in even at today's current rate.

How are we ever going to pay off the debt we've amassed because people like you who want us to keep on taking on deficits, year after year? It's going to take a long fucking time no matter which way you slice it. Id rather it happen through studious policies and cutting fat in the federal government.

If we just stop exports Farmers will lower their prices

HAHAHAHAHAA
No. It's those exports that keep it cheap actually, due to the sheer scale of operations. Last time prices got too low in the US they started dumping millions of tonnes of food to rot in the fields.
Profits will stay the same, but their equipment costs thanks to imports will increase and your food costs will get higher.
Also most of your exports to China was onions, I hope you like onions.

quoted trumps admin

Why would anything believe the turds ejecting from their mouths?

non american detected

I hope the tariffs kill your shithole country.

inb4 yo onions American

No, you aren't

Then why use shit tactics to deflect? It makes you sound like you did. There was no other realistic choices. You either got trump or Kamala. But I don't believe you anyways, your whole schtick has been moving the goalpost then coming up with a red herring when you can't defend your original position.

Why yes let me just lower taxes some more that'll help

Actually taxes are good (tariffs) and we need to pay off the deficit with them

Prices will go down somehow

Please make it make sense. Because it doesn't.

I'm american. I don't vote for either of the jewish parties.

nu-uh!

This is all you can say everytime. Someone tells you something and you just scream "no!" over and over again like a child.

Projecting your scat fetish, fresh take

I never said anything about voting, what the fuck are you talking about?

Non citizens can't vote anymore hombre

dogshit twitter screencap

no argument

government cocksucker

Fuck off to Anon Babble where the scum collects.

Mostly Venezuelan prisoners yes, but he's an El Salvadoran national and isn't being imprisoned under that specific agreement. That's why we're able to see Bukele basically tell the scotus to fuck off.

Being right about troons is not a justification for the retardation that is his current economic policy

Those were government subsidized farms that were under contract to not sell their food. Which was bullshit, I agree. It doesn't help your argument though. If we are selling to Americans anyways, they'd be forced to sell cheaper or at the same price. Youve yet to give any real on most food.

your meme personally targeted me and it made me MAD

I'm sorry anon, won't happen again

You brought of bringing up Biden as a deflection, which is disingenuous because it would've been Kamala continuing his policies as the opposing choice. Simple logic, moron. Lolololol

People don't work for free. Farmhands get fired if they can't sell for certain prices.
Farming is already a rather brutal industry with a tight bottom line, it doesn't get much cheaper, especially if all your parts prices and machinery you imported just went up.

Youve yet to give any real on most food

Any real reason why prices would go up on most food*

Your OTM calls aren't the economy anon. If you had a car I would point out crude oil prices dropping 20% in a week. If you weren't a limp wristed vegan I'd point out eggs are down 75%. In your own words, tell me what you think the economy is.

That's not remotely what I said

Ok but the discussion wasn't about biden or kamala or voting.

True it was about how you're butthurt over trump when Biden fucked you raw. Now you're blaming your bruised anus on anybody near you

lol fuck em then

Based and common-sense pilled. History will remember this glorious quote for millennia to come.

In fairness the US used to be an export nation, but being the world's reserve currency almost forces you to be an import nation or else you can't maintain that privilege

Eggs are down from 9 dollars thanks to European imports and a collapsing demand for both eggs and oil due to a depression market
Thank you for showing your economic illiteracy and that you get your opinions from fox and/or bloomberg.

Again, a lot of those foods are sold cheaper than they would be sold in America. You really think food is more expensive in Mexico and China than here? Wtf? Canada maybe, but that's not where we export most of our food. Again, you have no argument. Farmers would get paid about the same as they are now if we completely cut off exporting food, but I never said we should completely cut off exports. I said we need to balance out our deficits, if that means less importing crap, so be it.

Yeah sure let me just invest in 500mil factory that takes 2 years to get running and would require 10 years of stable 10% tarifss to just make even. And after trump is gone in 4(?) years, it becomes unprofitable and has to be closed again.
Nobody with the kind of money to actually bring back industry to america will do it with the current chaotic and directionless state of things. You need long term stability and trust in that stability for those people to realistically consider actually investing. Which is about as far away as you could possibly get from compared to the current administration.

Oops forgot image.

I don't think you understand the concept of a floor cost for manufacturing. People don't manufacture for a loss.
I am talking to a retard.

I never said anything about biden, you're hallucinating posts again.

We do manufacturer for a loss, when we sell our products to countries where said products are cheaper, instead of selling them here, where they cost more to buy. Fucking midwit

did i mention the implementation is shit?
Also what im afraid of is him using this opportunity for insider trading.
But really its been a month since the tarrifs went up and i think theyll figure it out.

Also what im afraid of is him using this opportunity for insider trading.

It's been happening literally nonstop

We manufacture at a loss

Thanks to subsidies. So not actually at a loss.
Are you intentionally too stupid to understand my point.
There is a floor cost, prices only dip below that when competing, but on average they will always need a floor cost or they stop making things.
Thanks to imports of steel, raw materials tooling, tractors and machinery now being 25% more expensive, food prices will actuslly increase.
You're lucky oil prices are low right now or you'd be even more fucked.

On both sides too. So much market manipulation it feels like tariffs are just a ploy for all governments around the world to make money off of retail before just things going back to normal.

As I said before, we don't need to import steel, we export steel too. I also said we shouldn't cut off all trade. You're arguing with an imaginary person at this point.

avian bird flu isn't real if I don't think about it

Egg prices are lower now than under Biden

You're lucky trumps plan is working otherwise you'd be FUCKED

Great argument

They're a tax on consumers, and you have people in China, US and Europe cheering for it despite it only making prices higher for all of them.

And we've gone full circle to

if they were so bad, why did Obama implement tariffs on China, why did Biden keep Trumps tariffs on China

And then you'll go back to saying

WELL ummm AKCHEWALLY THEYRE ONLY GOOD SHORT TERM

That kind of BS. You aren't saying anything new.

Egg prices are lower

No. And they're expected to be 4.17/12 in 12m, possibly higher. Pic rel >Plan
Oil will rise shortly and you will be squozed.

Yeah, it's fucking insanity and we're not insiders so we get fucked. All those people cheering it on are making money from it. Or they just hate America that much, probably both

Egg prices went down almost 4 dollars where I'm at... But I usually buy from farmers

6.99 in stores, 5 bucks from farmers. It's an easy choice for fresh eggs in my case

Tariffs are good short term for protectionist reasons, they are not good for the economy and especially not on such a broad scale you numb nutted faggot.
The fact that you lack nuance when I've been pretty clear about my opinions since the beginning is the biggest indicator of your retardation, trying anything for a gotcha so you can dismiss my opinion, well I won't let you.

They were 1-2.99 during Biden
Or is the egg prices graph I posted too hard for you to read, are you a fucking bot.

ummm actually, even though prices are cheaper NOW...in TWO WEEKS they won't be. How do you feel now chud?

America has the most untapped oil of any country on earth. Oil only cost more because Biden would rather let it rot than use it. Your calls are going to expire worthless and that's a good thing.

They're cheaper than the bird flu pandemic, not before then, are you memoryholing reality.
You are bot, you cannot read images like

No they weren't. They were around 5 bucks where I love for the last few years then they skyrocketed when the bird fludemic caused a ruckus. Which did affect main egg suppliers in the US. I live in Northern Cali everything is more expensive here, just because we are tied to southern California.