/smg/ - Stock Market General

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Educational sites:

investopedia.com/
khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiOs3-llXq5CGQPNHf_3-nYZ4d_w7OP52

Financial TV Streams:

watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

Charts:

tradingview.com
finscreener.com
koyfin.com/
portfoliovisualizer.com

Screeners:

finviz.com/
tradingview.com/screener
etfdb.com/

Options

optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
optionsprofitcalculator.com
optionstrat.com/
optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

Pre-Market and Live data:

investing.com/indices/indices-futures
finance.yahoo.com/

Calendars

marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
earningswhispers.com/calendar
cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

Boomer Investing 101:

bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

Misc:

finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
market24hclock.com/
wallmine.com/
fintel.io/
dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
brokerchooser.com/

Prev:

first for buying female natural gas

REMINDER: THIS IS ONLY DAY 2 OF THE 90 DAY CRAB MARKET

woman stops talking

pumps

no tarriff news

market pump

HUH
WAT

I WAS ABOUT TO FINALLY BUY IN

BREAKING: TRUMP SIGNS EXECUTIVE ORDER DECLARING THE SELLING OF STOCKS TO BE AN ANTISEMITIC CRIME

dodged almost all of the important questions

tariffs stay

China still not interested in calling them

still believes that tariffs will save the US

says that consumers have a lot of optimism right now

"trust Mr. Trump, he knows what he's doing, this is a proven economic formula"

over status?

600tons/220grams (iphone weight) = 2.5m iphones

apple sold 100m iphones in the US last year

less than 1 month worth of pre-tarriff inventory

ahhhhhhh its moooning
how did you guys know to slurp yesterday

DEAR XI

I WROTE U BUT U STILL AINT CALLING

I LEFT MY PUTS, MY BONDS AND MY TARIFFS AT THE BOTTOM

I SENT TWO AMBASSADORS BACK IN AUTUMN, MUST NOT HAVE GOT EM

PROBABLY WAS A PROBLEM AT THE EMBASSY OR SOMETHIN

SOMETIMES I DRIPPLE PISS DOWN MY LEG IVE ALMOST FALLEN

somewhere near the top for sniffing female natural gas for free

ahhhhhhh its moooning

how did you guys know to slurp yesterday

Holding 10,000 SOXL 4.5% in profit.

PICK UP THE PHONE Xi!!!! I need you baby

Any want to start a 0dte challenge with me?
starting balance is 500
today i made 100 bucks

Well that was a waste of time

PUMP

Guess I gotta hold my fucking puts over the weekend, Jesus.

Europes BTFO

Let me guess this straight

Yields going up causes Trump to fold?

All her pressers are useless
Trumps social media account is his own presser

It's amazing how retarded this administration is. Lutnick and Navarro are some of the biggest retards I've ever heard speak, they're so full of shit lmao

go time

PR whore stops talking

said nothing relevant

market poomping

clown world

ITS PUMPING ARGHHHHHHHH BOBO IN THE GROUND

US CUSTOMS ANNOUNCED!!!!!
System for tariff exemptions on freight ships is glitching the fuck out
cnbc.com/2025/04/11/customs-reports-glitch-in-system-used-by-freight-for-tariff-exemptions.html

What do we call this market? Clown Market? Orange swan event?

seriously its just a shitcoin exchange controlled by a cheeto dictator, and whatever he says makes dumps or pumps

unreal

why the fuck are we pumping
also i got tiger balm on my shaft, feels kinda good ngl

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what did OP mean by this?

what did the orange clown say for it to be pumping this much?

ORANGE FOOL
IM FRUSTRATED

lmao it is glitching on purpose? like as long as no one can checks them the dow stay affloat

got tiger balm on my shaft

Gotta get it on the bit between your dick and your sack.
That really hits the spot

kek based.
pay up whitey

Just wait until they actually have to process tariffs, we're going to get so backed up at ports nothing will be in stock

"Europe Considers Lifting Tariffs On Chinese Cars In Favor Of Fixed Minimum Prices"

Elon sharting bricks

Back in your hobbit hole Townsend
Bake me an onion

to the moon

This will be about 90% of the posts itt

I honestly don't think I've ever seen the market being THIS retarded. And that's quite a feat.

50% of TSLA's international output comes from China retard

Pump on no news

Dip on no news

Everyone at the whim of the orange clown

to the moon

good
no way these boomers wouldn't just bail themselvles out.
don't forget how deep their decadence, greed, need for comfort goes

printing more money

yields are already high as fuck

Powell and yelled should both be tried for treason

I honestly don't think I've ever seen the market being THIS retarded.

Last Tuesday for me

I was referring to the last two weeks in general. Pure madness.

don't forget how deep their decadence, greed, need for comfort goes

boomers are vile subhumans. many have x2 leverage. I just wish this market would tank 50% wiping all boomers out.

They said they're super duper close to a deal for the umpteenth time? Yeah, I'm thinking we pump.

Name comes after dust settles. It's too early. For now I have pencilled in '2025 Tariff Tomfoolery'.

I think hundreds of millions crypto-tards jumped into the stock market when trump told them to buy, and they are now making it a shit coin exchange

okay what fucking happened now

God bless President trump. Some Black Friday huh guys

say sorry or ill give you the Volckner treatment, nigger

i cant imagine working in supply chains or customs the past week
id hate the orange retard on making my job a living hell on that alone

NEW

Just hours before China unveiled new retaliatory tariffs, the Trump administration had quietly warned Beijing against escalation and encouraged President Xi to initiate a call with Trump. But by morning, Washington was met with new Chinese tariffs—and silence from Xi.

we're barting. just let it play out.

15 offers

no offers from UK/EU/Canada/Australia, countries that actually matter

so just a bunch of poorfags offering nothing

zero deals finalized

he didn’t buy $22 SCHG

retard

im glad chinese girls got cuter

Donald's Duty Disco

and encouraged President Xi to initiate a call with Trump.

I hope this is fake.

What is this 4D chess move called?

So has trump actually fucked us long term with countries dedollarizing or is this reversible? Should I be saving money/prepping or will things return to normal? I'll have an a&p license by the end of the year, hope i can do something before the bottom falls out

stabilize market

Uh they can't print money though last time they did that inflation spiked amd had to rely on the world not exploding which wasn't a good plan

if they mean buying bonds

I don't think that will stabilize the markets right now the issue is the reputation of America is dreadful

I mean logic went out the window.

Pump makes no fuckin sense. No new news— it’s literally pure hopium.

bulltards and beartards look for normal market indicators and signs

Are you telling me the penguins called in to make a deal? That's cool. I didn't know they could do that

It isn't mind you source is CNN Trump is desperate for a win

The UK, Canada and Australia are just poorfags. None of them export anything to the US

Went all in bros...my last 20k dropped it into XEG.TO was going to put it into VFV just hesitated....I could have gotten into XEG at 13.8 two days ago but just didn't click the send order button....I know I got too many positions but my XSP I have 7 more months in the market than VFV but I am still debating selling XSP and dumping it into VFV while it's still at a decent discount.

I still like 'Trump Dump'. Nice, simple, and a clear part of his legacy.

We knew this, China also said this is the last time theyre raising tariffs and every other time they're just going to ignore it

Penguin chads will not cuck.

Price action chads, we can't stop winning!

Trump is desperate for a win

he might need to speed up the win though. I can see the "hint" being dropped potentially.

As anticipated, it turns out the administration are not, in fact, true believers in the Ron Vara philosophy, and, in fact, are readily embracing of ideas of negotiations and deals and can kicks with all. That the f.e.d are also on board to bucket water out of the boat as needed and when needed forthwith.

So they were really betting on China folding, but it turns out China has been prepared to fight a trade war?

Well the question is, could Trump make it worse until the end of his presidency or this is the peak?

During every previous crises, the administration was somewhat competent enough to reassure markets that everything would be done to keep the economy afloat

The market is running off of pure copium at this point

Blonde lady told us to trust Trump and that most consumers are optimistic?

Surely everything will be ok then, I need buy right now!!!!

Kek

I honestly think they're going to 25th him out as mentally incompetent at this point. no fucking way he's staying for the full 4 unless he becomes another placeholder president like Biden.

They've already said anything past 50% isn't worth replying to.

What's missing from the headlines is that they ALSO said they will look into other options to strike back, including US treasuries and equities.

A non-copium answer is people saw how Canada + Japan + EU bitch slapped Trump into line with the bond sell off. Gives people confidence other countries will keep him in line.

puts that i bought when SPY was at 527 are up 20%

an actually decent way of putting the shitshow

This Anon'd do better than hag

1 in 3 americans has an iphone

Huh, that sounds a little exaggerated to me.

"......dump it."

Im starting to think there is no 4d chess only bingo at the parish hall

He's gone full schizo.

What are the chances of this passing through?

So when's Powell stepping in?

OOOoooOOoooOoOo

Trump hates bobo

like 57% percent of americans are iToddlers

Any Fidelity mutualfund fags here? How you liking them? I think I wanna DCA into their growth fund

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO FUCKING WAY

As long as the bill is just about DST then it has very good odds of passing even with bipartisan support. The question is can the republican keep their dick in their pants and pass an honest bill or will they fuck it full of pork and democrats reject it for that?

Precisely when he is needed.

all the big boys seem to recession casting, this is all retail rushing in to try and buy a dip

imagine being in logistics right now yikes, so glad I stopped working as a shipper

?

Bingo at parish hall

There is a plan it's called the 2nd coming of Mao

full schizo

Have you never heard of daylight savings time? Which site is that filename from? Reddit?

Trump is going to contract Stupendous Man

Bullish AF

This is what happened during Brexit too. People underestimate the level of paperwork and customs checks that go on for importers.

removing DST is actually the first non-retarded proposal he's made

They were prepared from the start. Trump's administration, being the 5D chess players, probably thought they're bluffing. Pic related is from a month ago.

he didn’t start a burping onlyfans

NGMI

He's gone full schizo

Unironcally this debate has been ongoing foe a while

it's pumpin' pumpkin

Take their fund and equity management fees into account before opening an account

Last times line went down was because of real reasons. The COVID pandemic and the housing burst were "real", unlike this time where the entire problem is the orange retard being a retard. I think investors are just hoping that Trump will relent. As soon as Trump relents, everything goes back to normal.

We don't yet know if the tariffs are going to stay, or if they're going to go. It's a slow-burn kind of problem and the markets don't yet know how to react.

But generally speaking, if things are bad? You buy. Things good? You buy. Things crabish? You buy.

There is still hope that the US will be worth investing long term. Barring the US completely cratering, the line will keep going up.

your puts have been obliterated, haven't they

Staring at a line for 15 min and this is all it does

Market only moves when I blink

you cant buy stocks with shitcoins

He doesn't want to remove DST, he wants permanent DST

supply shortage

even before the lack of Chinese import kick in

Lol

Evropachad here. Daylight savings is fucking retarded and should have been abolished a long time ago.

They've been prepping for the past 3 decades
It's called the BRICs network

Why mutual funds over
80% VTI
10%VXUS
10% BND

China spans further than the US east to west and they have only one time zone

china has all the cards and can afford to wait until trump comes to him to beg. they can rape his precious bond market and much more

Have a brokerage acct already, I also get to waive sales charge. Right now im all in SPAXX waiting to pull trig

None. It was stalled in the House when the Senate passed it.

i believe that this is going to work

Nah Trump's right, China doesn't have any cards. Problem is, they're playing Uno.

Mao is with Trump now unironcally

With this administration you gonna get both economic recession AND more retarded and less capable federal government.

Why is it pumping?

it lets you buy long puts for cheap

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS

Even if Trump relents, he soured relations with his main trading partners by trying to be a retarded bully and seriously fucked up US credibility. Weren't world leaders lining up to "kiss his ass for a deal" just a couple days ago?
This is just the beginning.

Anya Forger for press secretary
There was a provincial election on this matter in Alberta and it narrowly failed. I am still mad. I hate the clock change either way.

There's no difference in that. The discussion is about swapping back and forth.

it's crab day anon
every gain you get you will lose to an equal counter reaction

Daily reminder this retard wanted less daylight at the end of the day previously, wanted us on standard time 24/7 so it got dark early in the winter

they're literally worth more now than they were 90 minutes ago when the market was lower i have no idea wtf is going on

kek who needs NOAA anyways I just tune into FOX news for the weather

He's closing the guys who do the weather

Uh don't these guys also do sats as well I remember these guys from mw2 doing sat tracking

why are they closing down their weather stations that's actually in greenland lol

damn really?

Now try selling them kek

The big clock lobby has done irreparable harm to society, Trump is the only one to go after them and leftists still seethe.

The only one actually worth it's weight is China. Everyone else is just a resource vassal.

IV bro, learn it, love it, hate it

it means the market is going to dump hard dont sell

I dont care that much compared to Trump fucking nuking my retirement and any chance of getting rich

The last hour of daylight every day must be devoted to praising Israel.

Why is anyone surprised
The admin that jerks off coal hates climate change

No real difference. Both are good for people on one end of a timezone and less good for people on the other.

why in the ever loving fuck would i do that?
these are weeklies a for the next few weeks by the way, not 0dte

*taps the sign*
*points to the parts sourcing*

Why are people optimistic for deals? He made one deal already, Israel came cut their tariffs, said they'd 0 the trade deficit, and they still have reciprocal tariffs. Any future deal is going to involve tariffs unless that country literally pays tribute to make up for America's decades of trade deficits.

Underrated post

no i lied

Mortgage rates surge over 7% as tariffs hit bond market

White House optimistic China wants deal

China already winning the trade war and Trump just praying he gets out of this mess somehow

kek

all green

Trump won
Xi lost
America won
China lost
Kamala lost
Trannies lost
Ukraine lost

Except he doesn't want to abolish it, he wants to make it permanent, essentially pushing every timezone off sync with reality by 1 hour. Russia did the same, it's retarded

damn...

You should probably learn a bit more about options if this is confusing.
1) Check the cost spread. Could be someone just put some at a really high price, and there is really no sell action at that level
2) Options are priced on demand. If lots of people think the market is headed down, they will hold up a lot better even if the underly stock is going up. SPCE or any other dead in the water stock see this all the time.

fucking lel

Anyone else tired of it all? 4 more years of this at least, if we're lucky.

Imagine going from working at NASA to working on a coffee gulag in Alaska.

The Federal Reserve is absolutely ready to help stabilize the market if needed

Good thing we don't need it right now, we're still in a correction

okay but what does NOAA actually do in any way more comprehensively than several other meteorological outfits both public and private?

What is the vibe today. Do we hate Republicans and white chud milkbreaths or not.

Very accurate forecasting regarding hurricanes and tornados
Most weather people get their information directly from NOAA

considering the USD lost quite a bit of its value, US markets are getting relatively cheaper. See the Nikkei when there are important JPY movements, in dumps if the JPY rises, and pump when the JPY is weaker. US will now experience this.

they do all the chemtrails
got to spice the skies

Would it be completely retarded to try a covered strangle right now?

China just needs to wait foe a recession since China will bail them out again in trade for a trade deal

Have any of you guys said thank you today

And somehow the deficit will go up.

guys if everyone else shoots themselves in the foot I won't look bad for limping

The vibe is that Trump is still a fucking retard

10-year Treasury yield tops 4.5% after surge this week that’s worrying Wall Street and the White House

Imagine the 10Y hits 5% in the coming weeks

This

Anon. We have daylight savings 9 months of the year.

I'm confused why America hasn't responded to the Chinese Tariffs

this is a a milkbreath supremacist website chud
stay in the forest until you can tell me why it's so quiet

They provide meteorological data for free and have done so for over a century

10-year Treasury yield tops 4.5%

What am I supposed to do with my euros for the next 4 years? EU defense and China tech ETFs?

What the hell can they do about people not wanting the dollar anymore?

wypipo dont season their skys

Sad!

all trade barriers

haha never happening

EU banks maybe ?

my last post was meant to convey 'surprise' that the pump is so seemingly transparent
frankly i'm insulted you tried to explain bid/ask to me. what the fuck do you think i'm trading?
look where we are and reevaluate my comments in that context

I made quite a few bucks being a bobo last week, I'm mostly sitting out on cash because the market is 2 retarded 4 me rn, I only have a few wild TSLA puts expiring in september.

How do you cope with two days without the casino

Japan might agree to go 0/0 with us for tariffs but there's 0% chance they're raising tariffs on China.

quiet

I can hear the rumblin, fren

what if all of our allies were as retarded as we are?

How the hell would this fix anything?

Then we tariff and bomb their communist shit hole into the ground and do business with the roaches that crawl out the rubble.

trade barriers

That would require Trump to remove the Chicken tax much to screeching of congress and the senate

This guy is a fucking retard like Navarro

WHAT IF EVERYONE ELSE TOOK A SALES TAX BULLET TO THE FACE TO PAY MORE THAN DOUBLE FOR EVERY INDUSTRIAL PRODUCT EVER NEEDED IN THE WORLD

WOULDNT THAT JUST BE SO EPIC DUDE

The fuck is wrong with this cult anyway?

files.catbox.moe/gvammq.mp4

The only way the 10yr doesn't hit 10% is Trump's team clearly outlining what the fucking plan is so there won't be so much uncertainty

COMMERZBANK, TALAHON

iphones are a status symbol here, a lot of poorfags think only poors use android.

About 6.1 million Americans are behind on their mortgage

Why would any country go all in on a US led economic war when they just saw the US rip up the written trade agreement with Canada and Mexico?

thats just my tummy cooking one up
fart of the deal and all that

China tariffs go up three times this week to 147%, apple still up 12% this week

Japs are literally seething when they dumped US treasuries. Asia is more united than ever against the US. These people are delusional and completely culturally unaware.

stay in the forest until you can tell me why it's so quiet

Lol. He thinks the forest is quiet right now.
Lol.

As soon as Trump relents, everything goes back to normal.

Put yourself in the shoes of an investor, leader in another country or someone looking after a pension fund. Do you seriously believe any of them are going to see the US as a reliable partner in the world?

Even if Trump is dragged out of office now you still have the problem that the US has allowed the presidency to accumulate unchecked power and there's a motivated base of Americans who want to bring in Trump's policies. Britain is still on shaky ground from Truss and there was a system in place to quickly remove her followed by inserting the candidate the markets liked most.

i like nordea for divvies

Fuck you! It should always be on DST

You're not supposed to think, you're expected to obey.

Well well well. First we get shat on by the US and now you're crawling back to the EuroGODS after you destroyed your economy

if trump agrees tariff free trade, then WTF was this all about?! External Revenue Service another joke.
Does he want Globalist free trade or does he want to bring manufacturing back??

i hope we fuck gina this weekend

Anyone else slurp single digit SOXL?

Because the SS medicaid medicare problems keep getting worse, plus the interest on the debt doesn't help

why green

Anya Forger for press secretary

k i n o

Man I'm really not looking forward to hurricane season

Do you seriously believe any of them are going to see the US as a reliable partner in the world?

Yeah, it’s not like they have a choice in the matter.

His plan is he's running the country like one of his businesses which means playing hardball even when it makes zero sense

I'm confused why America hasn't responded to the Chinese Tariffs

Yeah I was up late last night posting on smigger with my cock in my hand when the 125% tariff news broke from Beijing. It's like 10 hours later and we haven't upped the tariffs on China to 6 gorillion percent yet? What the fuck? I thought we were witnessing the ART OF THE DEAL

EU offered 0:0 and was told to get stuffed

the US has allowed the presidency to accumulate unchecked power

WE CAN’T LET HIM GET THE NUCLEAR CODES Anon BabbleSISTERS!

Trump fucked the fundamentals and the dollar is getting dumped. But the US is top of the pyramid. It's still worth trading with the US over 10% tariffs. Countries are not going to stop selling to America over that (though they may start looking other markets to make up the difference). The American market will (hopefully) survive Trump and that's what matters. The only people that will suffer will be Americans, and countries like North Korea are proof that a population is going to suffer what they will and that's it. Only way Trump is going to pay for this is if the people get angry at him, but that won't happen because half the country is captured by Fox News, and the other have their leaders fucking suck at messaging or trying to make Trump look too bad.

The point being, tariffs aside, the US is still an inherently strong market to do business with and the fundamentals are huge. It's going to take more than one orange retard to scare the markets off.

China said theyre not playing a game of inches anymore and dont care and it got got leaked Donnie is begging them to call him

just build your house of stone instead of cardboard

repeatedly insult and bully euros and nips

think this will help choosing you over china

peak retardation

I was about to write a wall of text about everything with wrong with this post but why even bother
Good luck ameribros you're gonna need it

Because anything past 50% is just for show.

art of the deal

He wants ummm yeah, it's gonna be great though

well did ya get rich off the happening?

I'm pretty sure that keeping the treasury yields lower and taming the bond market was an EXPLICIT goal from the Trump admin (I think Scott Bessent said this).
I genuinely cannot see how this can be misconstrued as a victory in any way shape or form as long as the bond market stays like this

+1, +2, +3, +4
LET ME HEAR YOU SCREAM IF YOU WANT SOME MORE
LIKE AAHHHHH~
PUMP IT PUMP IT
WATCH ME WORK IT
I'M PERFECT

EU banks maybe ?

Made some good gains on Greek banks, but had to realize profit to get cash to buy a really good commercial space on bankruptcy, then it pumped 30% more
Wish I had gotten a loan instead

We really are on the most retarded timeline possible, with people actually thanking the admin for their kids dying of measles and this shit

"What if Europe and Japan just fuck up their relationship with China for literally no reason and also rape their own economy for our sake?"

Lol?

It is Bessents word
For like 2 weeks the yield is also the faggot could talk about

What a delusional retard

Other countries are calllin america bluff.
People are confidente the tarifs will be removed one way or another still.
There is abtter sense of optimismo that will only be crushed when results or consequences of this tariffs start to be felt.

is GEVO a good buy?
fucking why
bongland is going to have a civil war within the next 10 years.

well did ya get rich off the happening?

Yeah of course. You got rich off The Happening, right? I mean imagine being the retard who didn't get rich off The Happening.

yes, i love them
other anon has a point: VTI (and VXUS for ex-US) is really all you need but FSKAX (and FTIHX for ex-US) is great.

sell put

stock pumps

realize I'd rather own the stock outright

My average cost is 9.50. 400 shares, sold 2 calls at 11.5 for 50$ each. I'm ready for the PUMP

The process has started and there's no turning back. You're about to enter the find out phase pretty soon. Nobody can trust someone as erratic and arrogant as DJT, and the US by extension, as a reliable trading partner.

Yea, this was the MIGA copium originally to excuse the massive blunder it's been. Now its not even working the way they thought it was supposed to with the bond market calling Trump's bluff. Worse yet, the 10Y spiking is really bad for everyone, interest rates on home loans will go to the moon if it doesn't stop

gebaseerd

niggers

Posting old Donny tweets to see if the market reacts

after losing a lot of money on previous happenings i'm just happy to have not lost any money on this one

the plandemic was "real"

lol, lmao

someone finally not caving to china's unreasonable trade barriers and patent theft is retarded

lol, lmao, sum ting wong, mr wu?

I'm not gonna lie, I understand buying puts and buying calls, and I understand selling calls, but I just don't see why someone would sell puts. You have to set the money aside anyways, and like you said if the stock pumps then you'd be better off owning the stock.

The big news is Japan + Canada + EU all worked together to sell off bonds as leverage against trump.

What is up with these retards and IP protections like the US doesn't steal tech all the time?

They all work from NOAA which itself also has to draw on data being freely exchanged around the world. You can't model climate without a global system of data centres (with some of the most powerful computers in the world), analysts, sensors and calibration (the latter is especially important) - people have spent their entire careers trying to develop a private sector model but you can't because the system either breaks on scale or your international partners say "well why the fuck would I give you our readings from Siberia for free if you're going to sell them?"

We can now as a planet expect worse forecasting which means less predicative power for natural disasters, poorer infrastructure planning, worse agricultural resilience and more problems with air and maritime traffic.

fuck you, DST is evil. rip arizona if they make DST mandatory (arizona doesn’t do DST)

I'm not saying the US hasn't lost social capital. Long term, the effects of this administration will result in the US being much, much weaker than it would've been without the orange retard in charge. If there was a line that said "things that could have been" we would be in the red. But there is no such line we can see. All we can think of is the US slowly becoming more and more retarded until the floor caves from under them or China jumpscares them from behind the couch.

Japan + China are the biggest owners, so they can definitely do it. China has been selling US treasuries before this started, but now Japan has started too. From CNBC:

The move marks a stark reversal in how investors view Treasurys. Traditionally, investors have turned to U.S. debt as a safe haven during tumultuous times. That doesn’t appear to be the case this week as China and Japan appeared to be selling Treasurys amid the heightened trade tensions, traders speculated.

Yes but he could've easily kept it at 125 or 104 instead he raised it to 145

R U loadin puts for the weekend?

is any of this confirmed

thats the risk free way as you wont hit any stops and can just wait it out

His plan is he's running the country like one of his businesses

this will end well

Do we believe this?
To me everyone is dumping US bonds because US carry too much risk, doesnt look coordinated at all
But maybe I'm a dumie

Im literally not invested in the market apart from retirement plans. im just here to scream and shout on Anon Babble.

INTC, we need to talk... Why are you such a piece of shit? -3.6% on a bright green day.

why hasn't he upped his 140% tariff

he'll set it to 400% when he's good and ready, dont worry

Oh no… not muh forecasts! How will we fight climate change?!

If they make DST mandatory I legit think we would riot in Arizona.

Japan seems to be confirmed based on Trump cucking

Yeah it will crash then, the only reason trump isn't bankrupt is because his jewish friends bailed him out.

nah thats when he will say he surrenders to china

shitty euro style houses would immediately evaporate from american wind you dolt

Unironically this.

Causes a big ruckus

Crazy demands (he knows won't be met)

Other countries cave in just a little

"We made a deal!!!"

Literal nothing burger and markets pump.
Eventually the markets will stop reacting to his shenanigans the same way the crypto markets stopped pumping after every dog coin Elon tweet

How embarrassing!

very sneaky

everyone dumping treasuries cause everyone know US broke ass niggas can't pay lmao. especially when one of your demands is literally "write us a check bro" ahahhaha. you gotta be an idiot as a leader to sign up for another around for 10/30/50/100yr.

Will this be an issue for hurricanes and other disasters?
Or is that different.

I don't know bros, Trump's team is pretty adamant about doing policy on working mans terms. He might seriously not care about stocks

SHIT IT WAS YOU

My thought process was 'if I don't get assigned, I can just keep doing it; if I get assigned I can sell it later', but if the price keeps going up, I'd have to put down more collateral to do it again or find a different stock.
Yeah it's fine I guess.

It'll be an issue for hurricanes because NOAA funds the people who fly directly into the hurricane to give them strength data

do you honestly believe trump can resist the urge to slurp up these cheapies?

Art of the Deal. Trump says he's going to call Xi but he won't to leave him hanging, and Xi will get mad and call Trump asking why did he say he's going to call him but didn't thereby making Xi call first.

The weatherman is already wrong half the time anyways. All the forecasts of the climate reaching humanity-ending levels since the 70s have all been wrong. First it's an ice age. Now global warming. All the predictions overstated what really happened. The best climate indicator to look out for is when obamo sells his house in Marthas vineyard

bad news all day

pumps

What is wrong with people
Is it just algos that can’t read the news?

Other countries cave in just a little

We dont even have that, a bunch of countries offered a 0 tariffs deals wich were always on the table but so far we have zero concession despite the alleged phonecalls ringing at the white house

Are these the kind of calls that ends war in 24h?

hmm, should I buy calls or puts? If they work something out it's going to go to the moon.

DONT BE A PANICAN DONALD YOU ARE OUR RETARD IN CHIEF

Vomma swaps.

Tariffs will be lifted by the end of today.

It's the Proven Economic Theory of Mr President hahahaha just ask for money and promise tax cuts to your citizens HAHAHAHA

She tried to warn us. Why didn't you listen to her Anon?
files.catbox.moe/65qn8t.mp4

idk im seeing a pretty positive vibe on todays news

Damn may need to buy in

LMAO guy is even more stupid than I previously thought

Yea, losing several trillions on the markets, having the US lose its status as a safe have, and home loans going above 7% sure was worth getting literally nothing in return, wow art of the fucking deal

what a fucking retard

Not officially, but the signs are there
reuters.com/markets/japan-canada-agree-cooperate-market-stability-2025-04-09/
Search "Carney’s Checkmate: How Canada's Quiet Bond Play Forced Trump to Drop Tariffs"

why would i listen to a woman?

What did Jim mean by this? Is it good or bad?

And with our aging infrastructure and plans to shitcan FEMA the next Katrina we experience is going to get ugly

bad news for TRUMP= tariffs more likely be lifted

That is it. Chall it hopium/copium or whatever. People expect him to cuck out again

Trump is going to cave imo i'm 60/40 on it this whole trade tarif thing was massive fiasco

People are buying because they're betting on another random tweet about another tariff pause. Best to buy than to sell if Trump is indeed doing market manipulation.

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has won literally every time

still calling it cucking or caving

lmao when will you learn

it means jpow is about to raise rates

Might go with the Vanguard shit since it has a dividend and it’s basically the same

The biggest thing no one mentions is that the countries do not pay them tarrifs, the IMPORTERS do. The leverage is non-existent because it hurts the US companies importing shit more than it hurts the country exporting it

China raised tariffs again

I'm seeing positive stuff today

Is your news channel set to Bluey today? Did Bingo announce the end of the trade war?

What if they simply won't pick up the phone?

fucking why

Trump never got over being told the hurricane wouldn't follow the path he made with sharpie.

Does anyone on here actually make money or just permabear post 24/7?

there's no point in replying to maga tourists, they're incapable of independent thought and will defend their idol no matter what.

china relies on selling the fruits of their slave labor to the largest market on the planet more than the US needs to buy their cheap shit. Tariffs slow trade

China has said for weeks theyre open to talks but Retardo got asshurt they call his bluffs

Ok let's say it's negative, markets are still up. Imagine when there's actual positive news? This the best Bobo can offer? Pathetic.

We have the weekend too now for good news to happen. Basically if it's shit or the same we crab and then if a phonecall is made then we pump

bull markets are bad for posting imo the whole biden bullrun 2022-2024 almost killed /smg/

made money but lost all yearly profits when trump untariffed

Trump will bomb them

making money

/smg/

you know the drill

We must solemnly tell the US that a tariff-wielding barbarian who attempts to force countries to call and beg for mercy can never expect that call from China

Pic is bullish as hell

I hate this market

boboposting is more fun

Exports to the US consist about 5% of the Chinese GDP, though they do have 10-20 million jobs dependent on them. They can survive longer than the US companies can (no product = no sales = no money). The US companies can't just make a factory and workforce pop up somewhere else magically either. It's just a retarded policy doomed to fail and its also hurting everyone without actually fixing anything (except maybe getting Trump and his cronies rich from short selling the market while it dumps, then buying calls when it pumps)

based orange nigger making /smg/ great again

the art of the hold

permabear

you been reading the news?
when it was BVLL, I just accumulated VTI and fucked off this whole board and general. now I need to see what the crazed retards are doing.

S and p is up over five percent over the last five days

Kek Bobo get fucked

well he did get Zimbabwe and Vietnam to call, show the tariff-wielding barbarian some fucking respect

Many small businesses depend on chinese imports, some small businesses are literally shuttering their doors until this tariff shit stops because their tariff bills fucking tripled their costs

called out the bluff of usa

no reteliation of usa from Trump

usa now the one calling.

That is overall good news because it means Trump can cave in

Sell SOXL today
Buy it again monday when everything crashes again
Market goes up because stock market is joke
Repeat??

He's always said he wants trade surplus & tariffs & tribute. That's what he means when he says 'deal'.

gold STILL going up

all forex STILL going up

It's not crabbing, it's just falling in a different way.

I'm suspicious.
Nothing happening over the weekend might be enough to switch most people back to default mode because of the small attention span the average person has.
Which means the default of number go up on average might return despite the world having been hysterical over the past two weeks.

Why are you spamming your grifter xitter account here, Browner Shitskinian?

youtube.com/watch?v=Fz3tSzAmyCs&rco=1

It'll just re-route through vietnam.

Decades of trust that no matter what the US does or whatever retard was elected president

invest in their economy

it's almost risk-free

treasuries especially (also municipal)

and they'd wouldn't fuck you over

Now they made a massive risk premium for securities that almost had none

Anon Babbleope

thinking the market will do exactly as you think

You know how many times I've seen the market crash after 'good news'? If there was any good news Trumps press secretary would've mentioned it

screenshot for my cringe collection, thanks faggot

Im selling before close kek

Which defeats the purpose of tariffs if China can still re-route their goods through a third-party country.

Who is this man, ?

Yeah, same

But Trump still gets to tell his supporters he's winning versus China.

im doing both

This man I meant

just woke up
what's with this fake and gay market why's it pumping

Def a Anon Babbleoper here
Ukraine lost

ruined, save it for next thread

But why does he need to do that? Not like he can run for another term.

I'm hoping if I call Trump a retard enough that it becomes a mind virus that spreads across the internet and this fucking retard's "legacy" is forever ruined

Yea, and even if this somehow wasn't allowed, it still doesn't make jobs/factories magically appear over in the US. Companies have to pay the tariffs, how do they have the cash flow to build new megafactories from scratch and then also find the people to work in them? Do they expect them to also train the people from the ground up in a week? A few months? Years? It's so god damn retarded that I've lost all respect for Trump over this

china cucked

No reason really. People are pretty sure Trump wants to cuck with China

Trump leaked to his insiders hes rolling down chinese tariffs

Trump folded and had one of his team call china to ask xi to call trump

What are the chances Trump completely folds on everything?

(((Marvin Minsky)))
God damn I can spot them from their words now. I don't even need to see a nose or genetics. Just a simple derision of objectivity.

It's a group of Ukraine/NAFO shills from reddit, they've moved on from raiding Anon Babble to raiding Anon Babble.

You can tell because they talk like prissy faggots and are always talking about their "European arms stocks" and how amazing the EU is doing.

They are paid either by Zelensky or the EU not sure which, but it seems to be an influence operation against Trump.

This
Fake news

I've lost all respect for Trump over this

same desu
was a big fan of the border security and doge stuff but this tariff shit got me missing big joe

At this moment I think the 10 stays recession or not

we're gonna need to see retail stock dwindle to really see the shitshow of the tariffs, so i'd say a month or two before he gets really scared

Bait

This thread reeks of onions

check back in june

I'm actually expecting the first deal to be with UK or Australia, who the US have a trade surplus with, where they remove some random bullshit trade barrier and we drop the 10%. Easy deal for them, easy win for Trump, and markets would moon almost as hard as seeing a China deal because it would signal that even the 10% is up for negotiation.

Him being a retard is the fun bits. The way he's living in your head is ruining this thread. Be a good little redditfag and go rage posting there.

This is 100% true. These yurotrolls sound exactly like the ones on Anon Babble

You are all very transparent and annoying.

Market expects Trump to fold.

China is playing a very sophisticated game against a very stupid opponent. We're about to get our fucking asses handed to us.

I learnt two things this week:

1) Trump is a retard.
2) But also a cuck.

He's stupid enough to fuck over the United States, but not brave enough to go all the way. He is indecisive. And I'm afraid this chimp-out will leave us in a worst position with nothing to show for it. I was sure we were getting Greenland, manufacturing jobs, and a third term. But that's not going to happen. Trump is too much of a pussy and too much of an idiot, and the rest of the world has too much leverage on the US for Trump to make their move.

I doubt long-term things will get better.

This article is a good read about it: cnbc.com/2025/04/11/ceo-trump-china-tariffs-are-doomsday-scenario-for-small-businesses.html

With policies shifting quickly — the Trump administration has publicly altered its China tariff plans four times in 10 days — Rollens is temporarily holding his products in China, hoping to wait out the budding trade war between the two countries. He has enough inventory stateside to last roughly until June, he says.

His options are limited. If he brings in a new shipment of products under current policies, he’ll pay a tax levy of 145% of their total declared value, paying up front to access products he hasn’t sold yet. Doing so would likely force Rollens to raise prices by at least 50% — a jump that could dry up consumer demand and leave him with unsold inventory, giving him no way to recoup the import costs, he says.

Small businesses are going to get destroyed by this, and I think bigger companies will also eventually run out of inventory sooner or later

This is the person telling you to stop posting politics btw

This is the worst /smg/ ever

lul newfag

CHINA PRESIDENT XI TO PAY STATE VISITS TO VIETNAM, MALAYSIA, CAMBODIA FROM APRIL 14 TO 18 - XINHUA (mktnews.com)

Hahahahhahah not only is he going to lose the game of tariff chicken, he's also flipped trade partners against us to favor China

This

Quick reminder that when your money devalues 2%, your stock market instantly goes +2% more or less. Nothing changes. As a Venezuelan and Turkroach stocks holder about it.

Isn't he saying that he wants a third term?

Successfully made china popular in SEA

Art of the deal

boomers are vile subhumans. many have x2 leverage.

seriously? that's crazier than I could have imagined
Do you know this from interacting with them or something else?

all asian country harbor hatred in their heart for the US, having been invaded in the past or having GI blows raping their women currently. they only deal with the US because pragmatism of money. this tariff nonsense only united them together.

whoever is in charge of the foreign policy, some idiot from the rust belts probably, completely misread their culture kek

Trump does sincerely hate trade deficits, maybe he could be convinced into something like that but the only reason he'd accept is that it'll pump the markets. Or maybe UK would have to buy our shit, line with the China deal in Trump 1. So maybe you're right, idk.

Vietnam will never hedge against the US with China.

He also raised China's popularility in Europe, compared to the US.
Maybe berating and insulting your main trade partners isn't that much of an art. Especially if deals are involved.
inb4 mad Anon Babbletards trying to tell me I'm a tourist

all asian country harbor hatred in their heart for the US

And still, in the past, they'd rather do business with Americans than with Chinks

XI PLEASE CALL

all asian country harbor hatred in their heart for the US, having been invaded in the past or having GI blows raping their women currently.

and let's not forget there's a load of non-military, non-retired "digitial nomads" (rebranded sexpats) all across Asia now too

I'm posting this from vietnam where I've been living with a filipina. When I first visited Philippines in college in 2014, it was so chill. I think that's because there was enough tight pussy to go around for everyone. Now that every girl down to the deepest, jungliest, poorest province has a smartphone the pussy game is much much more competitive.

I mean...imagine if you had a 3.5" penis, made $180 per month, and had a 90 IQ (top for your family) and a remote "data analyst" showed up to your town, pumped your sister while you are now living a ricecel life?

Your scent has been detected

forgot to add the key contexts: the stares and interactions have swung WAY less friendly since 10 years ago. I mean...I guess I don't have the same hairline, but i'm only early 30s now. I really attribute it to just how many excess males the planet has + super competitive pussy market for all of them

Arent most of the factories in Vietnam are owned by Chinese people?

lul rebranded sexpats.
passportcells so true.

Was gonna go short TSLA because of green day, but it looks like it's actually down today.

Yes number 1 investor in Vietnam I'd China

do it anyway

So the time to buy an oled tv is now, before the retard tariffs hit?

Probably now before import shock hits

guarantee you supply chain is fucked at the moment

The tariffs will never hit

Fucking retard

Arent most of the factories in Vietnam are owned by Chinese people?

either chinese, small vietnam elite, or some other variant of foreigner.

i made two good TSLA put trades with $150 profit each. the stock is more volatile than crypto. still down on average for today overall- made good options trades, but they mostly canceled out losses from earlier horrible options I held far too long + bear etfs losing value.
MSTZ achieved another 52-week low today

why is meta dumping today?

Not sure if genius troll or most retarded poster alive, have a (You) either way

So have you come to the realization that nothing ever happens?

Donald and Xi in a shouting match

Meanwhile all the trade just get rerouted through Vietnam/India

Baby-tier volume today

Stick to the plan!

In 3 months, the tariffs will be rolled for another 90 days and the dump will be slurped.

It will also be summer and you will not have a gf.

x.com/smalls2672/status/1910663855274869158

Chinese guy: China is fully prepared to fight to the very end. If the US wants to completely shut itself out of the China market, be my guest

Interview lady: Yeah, China will lose the US market, which is 15%

Chinese guy: We don't care

Kinda based, ngl. The amount of people who think China will bend the knee need to lay off the copium though. Either Donnie bends his knee first or both countries go down.

China literally won't kneel especially considering the last time they kneeled it generally called the century of humiliation

annoying scam pump

I also still wont have a job

easy for the china elite guy that will be comfy no matter what to say what his overall society is willing to bare

"china existed for 5000yr, mostly without USA"
ya but not in its current form. in part of that history they revolted against people like him

anyways, it's easy for both sides to chest pound before the match is really a few min in.

well they say you should keep the good things to yourself but instead the tards decided to make a huge deal out of it and ruin it for everyone

I'm holdin my stocks over weekend, YOLO

Kinda based

Not really, it's the same stance as magatards in the US who claim they "dont care" when they have no idea what's about to happen
Both economies are about to get hit with a reality check
Everyone is loudly writing checks without understanding they will have to cash them

Whole world's rallying against the US anyways

well they say you should keep the good things to yourself but instead the tards decided to make a huge deal out of it and ruin it for everyone

what spoiled it was people not willing to work a real job and instead turn shilling the lifestyle on youtube/blogs/wherever into their "career"

cultural revolution is still in most chinese people's living memory. they're fine with it. they're a country that's gone through '30 million dead' disasters before. no biggie.

Not really, it's the same stance as magatards in the US who claim they "dont care" when they have no idea what's about to happen

exactly this lol

china ain't budging. people should watch their news sometimes now that fast ai translation is a thing. they're posting shit like "chinese earn 100, puts 50 in the bank, no problems". meanwhile americans earn 100, spends 95, puts 5 in the bank". they can outlast the US.

Fuck this, it literally needs to be the opposite. Get rid of DST and go back to permanent standard time. The only part of the year that feels normal in relation to time, are the winter months from October to early March when we "fall back" to standard time. Whole rest of the year feels fucked up. Getting up for work before the sun is up is torture

I'm almost all cash because the market is too retarded rn, but I'm considering buying some puts.
No volume, this pump is fake and gay.
Monday is going to be another bloodbath unless something big and very, very beautiful happens over the weekend, which seems extremely unlikely.

Alternatively, I hate going home when the sun is setting/down.

the TDS seethers now confirmed to be ricecel chinkshills

cultural revolution is still in most chinese people's living memory

calling huge cap on this.

median age in china: 39

culutral revolution ended: 1979

2025 - 1979 > 39 (46)
that and chinese zoomies have internet/smartphones allowing them to peer into the lifestyles of comfier humans around the world during every waking moment of their "eat shit to save face" decade.

While I think they're more resilient than 1st world westerners, I don't think it would be this ezpz cake walk

Getting off work when it's dark feels way worse. Like your entire day has just evaporated.

China will let donny say whatever he wants as long as he saves face and doenst seem like a cuck

seems like we're not getting the giga crash.
Orangemondayweek has been canceled.

you are a nigger, and xinnie the pooh is a fratricidal maniac.

Why are you so desperately sucking off chinky Xitskins? It's the same purported stance as anyone else. Words are meaningless.

Getting off work when it's dark feels way worse. Like your entire day has just evaporated.

particularly awful in Chicago, where it is also dangerous.
A double REVERSE DST would actually make way more sense than this current nonsense

we'll see, i think them being closer to a generation of hardship is likely to make them more comfortable going to ground if shit hits the fan. it's gonna suck either way though.

The Chinese don't really have a choice. They're gonna take it if they like it or not

that's a serious misreading of chinese relations with the party
people aren't really "fine" with the cultural revolution, even the party itself admits that whole thing was a hot mess of a mistake even if they take pains not to highllight that fact. post tiananmen the deal between the populace and the party is that the party would lead the country to ever better living standards/economy and the population would remain supportive of party domination. it's why the past few years with the economy slowing down, the job market being meh to shit for new graduates, and the debacle of the harsh covid lockdowns (for all the whining of westerners the chinese lockdown was genuinely dystopian) have called this arrangement into serious question.
with that said I think the CCP has a lot of leeway in this particular fight because it's so obvious Trump instigated it and clearly wants to knock China down a peg

Have you said thank you bros

maffs

this is not a serious economic forum if political/ideological bait gets this many replies

Remember they still have the great firewall

Anon Babble

serious

Very likely it'll all tone down next week.

If anything a fresh middle class after such hardship is probably going to make them a bit more anxious. A lot of young Americans have accepted that they'll probably never see social security, or own a home or otherwise have things economically improve for them, China on the other hand has a generation that feels the opposite, things are going up and they're one generation between mass starvations and millions dead, living in utter poverty, to middle class with luxury and leisure.

this is Anon Babble bwo

JFC I'm getting rekt on SOXS. Sell before the weekend?

JFC I'm getting rekt on SOXS. Sell before the weekend?

I keep posting that I hold 10k+ shares of SOXL yet you counter trade me lol

Not anon but

calling huge cap on this.

Who do you think is teaching the actual China zoomies? That >40 years old that lived when the cultural revolution was relevant

that and chinese zoomies have internet/smartphones allowing them to peer into the lifestyles of comfier humans around the world.

Pretty much all the chinese social media is censored by the party, and almost everything goes through them, they've been censoring a lot of stuff since the beginning of the internet, the party decides what is relevant to the average chinese citizen, this includes the economy, so yeah the chinese have a better chance against the americans on that regard

It's not like there's any way for citizens to express their dissatisfaction though. What are they gonna do, run a different party candidate? Try to stage a protest in their 1984 surveillance state? Start an activist movement by putting emojis in their Bio and tank their social credit score?

where_do_you_think_we_are.jpg

there's a difference between on topic memes and off topic shitting up the board

serious economic forum

both countries go down

Please. Please, this would be so profitable you would not believe. So opportune. So glorious and epic.

biggest green weekly dildo since 2022

most volume since 2011

yeah im thinking we're back

NO VOLUME. NO BUY.

Who do you think is teaching the actual China zoomies? That >40 years old that lived when the cultural revolution was relevant

that's why I give them credit that they'd be more resilient, but it's a straight up false fact that the "average person in china has that time period in their living memory".
And that's still before we exclude people that were 1 to 5 years old during the end.

I'm just not convinced avg chinese zoomie who will be young and have to work through it will be diehard bought-in about the situation

Seems like an easy short today, the hard part is calculating the orange risk.

Even the commenter's on cnbc are confused
The exuberance doesn't match the numbers

cant short if your money is in a short that is negative

Even the commenter's on cnbc are confused

probably why he's a cnbc wagie and not a retired options trader

Should I sell mu yinn calls or are chinx gonna pump their market

what happened to smg, where is everyone?

It is absolutely still relevant to anyone but the youngest zoomers. Why do you think their savings rates are so high?

im dead

I'm not making too much today

outnumbered about 20 to 1 by tourists

Are they pumping it on purpose?

you thought it was serious?
are you stupid?

We still have a whole season of the trump show to go and are nowhere near the finale. Making a few small trades, but this isn't the long term stable growth everyone is looking for.

someone bake, no one wants to ding post in a stale thread

they're celebrating passover anon. 95% of biz is jooz and their shabbos goys and 100% is absolutely retarded.

I GOT OUT OF YINN YESTERDAY AT 26 FUCKING CHINK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Baking

the market is right

Which market are you looking at?

NEW THREAD

I'm talking about the calm market today which I take to suggest that a deal or "deal" resuming trade with China is forthcoming

This board is for shitcoin gamblers and posting pink wojaks

90% were bears who sudokud