/smg/ - Stock Market General

Crisis averted. It's over, the House won. China lost.

Educational sites:

investopedia.com/
khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiOs3-llXq5CGQPNHf_3-nYZ4d_w7OP52

Financial TV Streams:

watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

Charts:

tradingview.com
finscreener.com
koyfin.com/
portfoliovisualizer.com

Screeners:

finviz.com/
tradingview.com/screener
etfdb.com/

Options

optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
optionsprofitcalculator.com
optionstrat.com/
optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

Pre-Market and Live data:

investing.com/indices/indices-futures
finance.yahoo.com/

Calendars

marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
earningswhispers.com/calendar
cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

Boomer Investing 101:

bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

Misc:

finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
market24hclock.com/
wallmine.com/
fintel.io/
dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
brokerchooser.com/

Previous thread:

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FUCKING PUMP OR DUMP, THERE IS NO CRAB

Do any of you actually gamble in a casino?

up

down

up

down

reminder if trump sends out a truth that kills your positions he's gonna be doing it from the doctor's office wearing a hospital gown

fincel thread

i made 20% on a 0dte TSLA put
i'm finna grow this little 3 fig 0dte account

SEXOOOOOOOOO

DEATH TO CRABS

NO CRYING IN THE CASINO

Chyna is winning! I repeat, Chyna is winning!

Trust the plan fellow pedes

How many internet computers do i need to make it?

Some tard pumped one of my puts for a split second so my graph for today is fucked

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Anyone else trust Trump? I think he's got this under control.

Watch this.

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Don't worry guys soon there won't even be a casino anymore

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Will today be the day?

SO WHEN YOU'RE NEAR ME DARLING
CAN'T YOU HEAR ME SOS

the market is crabbing, but also schizo

also DENN -4.3%

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Fuck you powell

Oh this is why Intel keeps going down, their new CEO is a CCP asset. I'm expecting he'll be given the boot within the next few weeks/months and the stock will drop below $15.

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I'm high confidence that the Cuck Put is in play

I think you meant to say "Fuck you Trump" since this is entirely his fault, the Fed doesn't control the long end of the curve in yields

God I wish I had huge E cups

If I was a dark magician in the administration I'd force (via legal threats or other means) roaring kitty to start talking about how shorts are destroying the market and we need to just buy the dip for america

All three levels.

prostate exam I hope

Gentlemen, I need help. I bought DELL at fucking 117 and I want to get out, but how do I reasonably recover from such a loss? There's no way DELL makes a comeback, right?

CHIQUITITA TELL ME WHAT'S WRONG

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stocks are based on literally nothing but vibes and hopium while bonds and the dollar crash

This is good right

I'm sure how many people here can actually count past ten.

lol, cut your losses already

Crab market is fucking me

I just came here to watch the fireworks.
Don't even own any stocks ro plan on buying anything. Seems like a blood pressure hazard to me.

God I wish that was me

pump status?

sorry i farted so it went up.

At least it means people are totally fleeing the system.
Absolute economic meltdown is if we see stocks, bonds, and the dollar all getting torpedoed at the same time and at similar rates.
Right now DXY is green, stocks are mixed, and bond yields are up. So we're kind of neutralish today. Still, bonds are the gorilla in the room I think, so that should put a squeeze on Trump.

BEGONE SNIBBS I'M TIRED OF YOUR GAMES

If I can get full combo on this before lunchtime the economy is saved

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Cancelled, we’re dumping again

Good for my puts when reality sets in later today.

To give (You) a paizuri

PATRIOTS STAY CALM AND CONTINUE TO PROVIDE EXIT LIQUIDITY

It's...amazing to witness. It's like the writing on the wall is right there but retail is running on pure supply of hopium and memories of the good times.

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lost 11k on an option that expired. forgot that it expires at 12:00 locally

CNBC was noting how the effective tariff rate even at his "walkback" is still 20% ex China, 28% with China included. Historical tariffs was 3%, so in reality nothing major has changed and we're still in a really fucked position (especially with China). They really went into this thinking they could just do this and things would just magically "work"

Still wish I cashed out of my oil stocks three weeks ago instead of deciding to long term hold for dividends. Currently down $4k

Bearish outlook

what should i buy to profit from it if i actually believe dollar will get canned as the reverse currency?

you forgot to redact your previous one buddy

yuan

its trumps fault the chinese have engaged in market manipulation and corporate espionage for their entire history

sure bud

lol

I love how the start to today looks so dramatic then you zoom out to 5 days and it's literally nothing.

LOL

Unironically put it all in potash.

market is way too optimistic again

they had the mandate of heaven for it.

Based retard

I love stability

ADHD zoomer retard

I didn't particularly care either way but felt like I may as well in case someone felt the need to screech at me for whatever reason.

calls a tranny a man

buys it a bag

kek baggies

Absolutely lmfao my hand cramps playing this shit. I need to plug in my pop'n music controller and remap it.

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down 50k in the last month

i sure hope this stops soon
i wouldn't wanna turn screws in a tsla sweatshop when i'm 70

CAD

Don't worry, turning screws in a Tesla workshop will be automated. You'll go to the coal mines.

ah thats fair. however, i declare GOLDEN AGE

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US Collapsing

Russia gaining power

Yeah its time for europe to collapse. Eurofaggots lost while Trump and Putin fucking won

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no

Does data actually support this idea that retail is doing all the buying?

MR CRAB I WANT OFF YOUR WILD RIDE

Can he afford that much plywood?

be trump

4D chess grandmaster

announce insane reciprocal tariffs, refuse to elaborate formula

global markets implode, msm shrieks about trade apocalypse

exactly as planned

china mad, retaliates by cutting off hollywood films imports

woke propaganda machine collapses overnight

unintended victory (or genius 5D psyop?)

PANICANS devastated, patriots get what they voted for

defense spending to $1 trillion, biggest in history

neoliberals crying fiscal murder, doesn't matter

short-term (1 day) consumer pain, strategic sacrifice

tariffs force rapid reshoring of US manufacturing

full industrial renaissance starts. the golden era is real

factories rise overnight, fully automated, AI-driven

trump literally weaponized protectionism into autarky

nations panic, realize new rules: obey or starve

EU and japan run to DC, beg for tariff-free trade deal

elon spams milton friedman videos to confuse more

trump laughs, grants zero tariffs to obedient allies

global trade realigns around america

hyper-acceleration, american supremacy back on the menu

china implodes, yuan collapses, CCP regime in shambles

America starts colonizing the stars

everyone confused, patriots wink at each other: they knew, tariffs were always smoke screen, pure leverage

trump still winning, abundance timeline secured

how does he keep doing it, Panicans?

*blocks your path*

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Is this how the rest of the day is going to go? Constantly alternating between red and green every half hour?

EUpoors are winning per default ever since drumpf got elected cause they need 2 weeks an 40 vote rounds to pass something while we got a monkey that bypasses congress

he can ask shoigu for his strategic reserves

thanks, i hate it

I dunno, there's big losers and big gainers that are cancelling each other out if you look at the indexes. I think mining and cloud compute holding companies do have some reason for optimism.

yes

No, retail makes up like less than 20% of the markets trades

im putting down all my assets that trump doenst know how to play chess

Digging into the strategic reserve is very bullish. I see a bright future for Putin.

Gold, preferably physical cause paper gold is fake

This is algos chopping each other up until longer term money picks the side. If you ever want to see this thing work watch the live ES futures. Retail 2 contract bob has got nothing to do with it.

Thats sound a good response, thanks

USDA gutted

subsidies for school lunches and other programs that purchased food from farmers eliminated

is this bearish (farmers getting fucked) or bullish (commercial farms getting to buy up farmland for dirt cheap)

slowest most convoluted admin

so slow whatever you're doing doesn't matter anymore

it actually save your ass

now you're somehow winning

EVVVVVROPA PATRIA NOSTRVVVVVVV

Yeah, I'm not touching that shit. I'm going to sit this one out and watch.

me taking in that spicy slurperino

US farmers will get subsidies eventually, it's one of the oldest traditions of welfare in this country

The less you do, the more you win.

still down

I WANT TO SNIFF HER ASS AND LICK HER ARMPITS DO DULL THE PAIN

Oracle wants to buy that.

oh no, the goyslop production line has been impacted

The state should have never been paying for school lunches, taxpayer dollars going to pay some retarded ape children

So much this. channel your energy my bros we are about to hit the golden age. Fuck the tranny bobos

children don't need school, children need the mines. they can buy their own fucking lunch.

Feeding ape children wholesome food rather than candy and energy drinks can reduce chimpouts by 75%. You don't understand how to invest in the future of your nation.

Russia

gaining power

zigger detected

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subsidies

from what federal agency? it'd have to be a trumpbucks check because nobody exists to disburse subsidies
goyslop or not, it's still another significant demand shock to agriculture

Casino doesn't close until the 30Y hits 5%

ammo and canned food

Go back

the worst thing about the upcoming recession is that we aren't going to get any floor trader kino. digital truly has no sovl

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Russia literally has a GDP lower than the UK

Trump is Kronii posting

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Not posted on /smg/ in a few years, you did buy Rolls Royce when I told you to, didn't you?

rocking back and forth telling myself the stock market isn't the real economy as politics changes the economy overnight

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what kind of market collapse would it take for the house and senate to turn on him and impeach? or would people sooner pull a french revolution?

Department of Agriculture

None of the above things will happen regardless of what he does

I know some of these people are memeing but it's dumbfounding how many people think education is a waste of taxpayer dollars when high-skill labor is the foundation of our economy.

What I meant to say is more like it's clear that the big beautiful finance institutions don't trust this market, USD and/or the country as a whole. The institutions that hold the vast majority of the money that circulates in the world. It's like there's a game of chicken of pulling out slowly but not alarmingly fast because that would cause a rapid race to the bottom and then nobody gets their expected share back.

the foundation of our economy is grubhub

Ukraine LOST

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oh so it's like musical chairs but with baggies

Buh duh
*recorder noises*
buh duh duh duh

education is almost entirely waste though. 99% of it is indoctrinating people with the national founding myth to produce disposable, identical factory drones, and the rest is gay shit, maybe if you are lucky they will have an algebra class.
the US is not immune from this. if anything they should do comprehensive education reform where all pointless shit - history, literature, english etc - is cut out in favor of math, math, math, math, personal finance, math, economics, logic, and soience.

foundation of your economy is mexicans working for less than minimal wage

Just because you do Grubhub for a living doesn’t mean it’s the foundation of our economy

go back to Anon Babble nafotranny this is a russian thread

woah what the fuck was that

Intel keeps going down because they're not competitive anymore and completely reliant on international trade

Giant green candle wtf happened

I AM HEREBY ANNOUNCING THAT I AM GOING BACK TO SLEEP, THE MARKET MAY FINALLY MOVE AGAIN

Scamwick to liquidate the shorts.

nah that was the 60s, today it's us paying chinamen to outsource to koreans to contract to indonesians for less than minimum wage

stop Anon Babbleoping

How do I short India

Many people who think current education is a waste think that it is because the biomaterial being educated is not as malleable as people think. Personally I'm not this kind of guy (I am a white man's burden kind of guy), but I know you know they exist.

Then there is a nested tier of these types who believe that essentially a soft doctrine of caste should be reestablished via a return to "family professions." Essentially English tier social mobility for the USA. I find this gay but I understand that it is basically the bias-over-variance approach to a stable society for a certain type of boring guy.

/smg/ ukraine war general

russia is basically big indonesia with oceans of tundra instead of oceans of water

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a-a-are we winning yet patriot-bros....

No new tariffs from China

that basically means the trade war is now at standstill and the situation can settle. Expect crabbing to continue until 28 half-days have passed.

Special Military operation General

Go long on toilet futures. US soldiers are going to go in and force them to use the loo

are you retarded? the ramifications of the trade war haven't even set in yet, there is no "settling."

This is ehy I hope the world will one day just literally cut the internet cables that go to r*ssia so we don't have to hear about their shithole and current dear leader ever again

Right, China is the one that's really going to still fuck everything up. Every big box retailer, every small business relying on custom orders, every medium business that needs machines and parts, etc.
And there's only two real choices here: They either buy the same goods as before at these insane rates, or they go out of business.

Be able to read is bad

Holy retard

I love playing craps

see make the woman blonde and the man bald and this is russia.

squiggly line on robinhead omgawd what hapen

put a fucking vwap on a five second candle chart I'm begging you

BUSINESS AND FINANCE YOU STUPID NIGGERS

NOW LOOK AT THIS YIELD

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I hate troons so much

Can't wait for the faggots that support that shit to shit on Kanye because he supports it now

ignore adhd retards

downward trend

it's over

Colorized

Those guys are your great-grandparents, they made money, fucked women, controlled the world, and had retarded grandchildren who thought their jobs should be done instead by spics and Chinese.

uh guys? can we talk about the market?
is this normal?

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0.124 is a pretty wild upswing, I can't deny

People think this way because the education system has failed them. 1/3rd of Americans are functionally illiterate and can't understand sequences of events or identify opposing arguments in an essay. They're not even fit for trade school; all they can do is take the coal mining job. And they fall for the lies pumped out by politicians because all they can comprehend are Tiktok or X feeds.
If you haven't read hundreds of books, you are functionally illiterate, and you will be incompetent because your personal experiences alone aren't broad enough to support you.

How can a stability measurement fluctuate like this? SURELY it would be going up under these circumstances? I know, it goes up when other line go down but it's a retarded system

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zoom out tho

Whoops, looks like America is done

Lul
I wonder if they're looking to put yellen in jail for using the fdic to bail in her personal bank. SVB

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4.59 now

You know I am right. You can either read without the help of school or you were doomed from the start. You weren't reading at a "12.9 grade level" before starting high school? NGMI

You guys are making tons of money on these hundred point swings across the major indexes every ten minutes, right

How good will Sean Hannity be as the next Chairman of the Fed Reserve ? maybe jesse watters would be better ?

Trump needs to post a truth NOW

wypipos cant handle spicy market hun

30Y about to be 5%

cnbc.com/quotes/US30Y
30Y AT 4.99%

30Y AT 4.99%

30Y AT 4.99%

30Y AT 4.99%

30Y AT 4.99%

30Y AT 4.99%

30Y AT 4.99%

30Y AT 4.99%

PREPARE FOR KEKOUT

I'm not descended from laborers but that's sick that your great grandparents had sex. Most people's great grandparents never had sex that's why most people don't exist

that 99% of indoctrination isn't necessarily utility for the individual but it is utility for society. Beyond the relative aesthetic charms of colonial era America, I don't have any great love for the founding fathers (besides pussy hound Franklin, who wrote one of the best letters ever web.viu.ca/davies/H320/Franklin.advice.mistress.htm). But founding myths can be an important unification for people, and when expressed in ultimately benign ways (4th of july cookouts and shit), they can provide a communal baseline.

This is your country

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For the love of god can’t someone do it???? Why won’t someone just do it already?????

Now let's see Germany's yield.

BLACK: 10 YR TBILL YIELD YTD
BLUE: GERMAN 10 YR BUND YIELD YTD

hahahaha market is bullshit
are we not bribing the ratings agencies(warren buffet) anymore?

greek debt/gdp 155% btw
US 120%

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Trump should be chairman and Jerome should be president. Freaky Friday style

Germany will bail Greece out. Who will bail the US out?

Is high yield good or bad for stocks

I do occasionally play blackjack. Literally nothing else.

that's fair, i just believe that the propaganda should be more truthful and less fake and homosexual, and that the core job should be teaching these little shits math instead of teaching them about gay activism in the northern war of agression

XI-DONO PLEASE JUST A FEW MEASLY BONDS
PLEASE JUST DUMP THEM

it's good for kneepads

pointless shit - history, literature, english etc

Okay retard, learning grammar and rhetoric were considered essential components of becoming an educated person alongside logic and numerical reasoning going all the way back to the Classical period.

traditionally it was viewed that in addition to the yield of bonds moving inversely to prices that their prices moved inversely to stocks
however over the last decade it has become clear that this is a crock of shit and bonds actually do whatever the fuck they want regardless of what stocks do

Trump gonna take my healthcare. Working contract or multiple part time jobs is so fucked.

for me, it's harris faulkner.

that's a cope. if you can't grasp grammar before going to school, no amount of help will save you.

I'll have you know my great grandpa was one of the first bitcoin miners, it's honest wage for an honest work, I'll be DAMNED if you try to denigrate him.

nothing is happening

that's a lizard person 110%

Frankly outside of alebgra I think the average kid is better off having a comprehension of language and literature than stuff at the pre-calc calc level unless they desire a career in STEM.

VIX lmao

TWEET SOMETHING YOU ORANGE FUCK I CAN'T STAND THIS CRABBING AAAAAAAAAAA

it's very amusing, US farmers have been HEAVILY subsidized through direct subsidy and guaranteed demand (through USAID, USDA, etc)
and now the person that 78% of them voted for is gutting all of that right before planting season

yeah this is the most boring depression EVER

Currently bullish on Bernie Sanders being elected president.

YOU WILL BE EDGED AT 4.97% UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES

Algebra and math in general gives a good framework for problem solving. I think that would be a better emphasis than mechanically drilling in arithmetic.

He's genuinely too old. He'd be 87 by the time he gets into office.

America can pull itself up by its bootstraps

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Agreed. I'm more of a lit guy and not very good at math, but algebra is a lot of fun even to non-math people if oriented as a problem solving exercise (and not just with shit word problems).

Nobody wants to be personally responsible for what happens next

Yields

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Mike Lindell will give us sub 1% interest rates within 30 days of assuming office.

Currently bullish on Bernie Sander's 20 year old clone being elected president.

He genuinely think he's gonna try to prop up AOC but I don't think she can make it as prez.

He's been riling people up pretty well though

Ironically half the time people say STEM the mean programming and a return to classical grammar (Greek/Latin) for the youth would probably prime the mind very well for that sort of thinking. Of course, STEM == programming is OVER

He's running for Governor of Minnesota instead.

tungsten carbide resistance at 4.97

No I mean literally.
I'm bullish on Sanders cloning himself a young body, mind swapping and being elected.

Even basic logic helps a lot to orient towards programming mindset. There's lots of games that foster that line of thinking too (I was able to get a bunch of STEM dorks I knew in college hooked on Magic the Gathering by describing the layer system and mechanics as if it were a program).

How long is the line of succession to reach him?

AOC is beating schumer in polling for NY Senate. More likely she does that then tries to run for pres.

If you can't grasp grammar before going to school.

Where the fuck else are they going to learn it?

lmao

Mike Lindell

Man I forgot about that pillow fucker, whatever happened to him? Last I heard he was in bad economic straits

Kys retard

I'm a bit deeper on the math side and I received a more classical education on math.
You really unlock new modes of thinking in math when you can see multiplication geometrically and when you think via vectors and linear algebra.

Geometrical thinking used to be a part of classical math education, but they dropped it because it's difficult. I think that's a mistake in retrospect. Calculating and visualizing probabilities becomes so much easier with geometric thinking.

silver

WTFWT

Do you really think the Dems will run a black woman again?

i don't think dems will unroll the china tariffs if elected desu

Why? He's just going to cuck out and walk with your donations again

t. Clone Sanders unbeliever

other countries work hard to make stuff for you

you borrow money from them to buy it

they don't trust you anymore

they redeem the bonds

Who could have foreseen this

They will if they want to slurp the dip

BUY. THE. YIELDS.

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aoc is a sexy mammary-laden latina not black

I hope so. Someone young and sexy with big tiddies.

Not at school

i work in "comp" "sci", and i find my linguistic skills generally at least as important as my math skills if not more. when you build an interface, you don't build an equation, you build a domain-specific language. and building interfaces is important unless others don't use your code (almost never happens in a professional setting, obviously).

Many moons ago when I last did calculus, the prof started the course with a crash course on formal logic and statistics and it made everything click a lot easier. Although I am ashamed to say that despite crushing my two stats classes I remember almost none of it outside of the very basics of normal distributions and standard deviations lol

Buy Treasuries?

AOC is cute, she would have my vote. Idk about her politics but cutie win, simple as.

AOC is a latina, people like latinas

They need someone with maxed out Charisma like obummer and Bill Clinton.

The only black lady they have is jasmine crockett from texas.

The technology for cloning Sanders just isn’t there, now a head transplant on the other hand…

Nose too big

we're vibespumping on SPX

Which means she'll have zero support from women voters.
It's one thing for women saying they'd like to see a woman president, but roasties seethe if she's young and attractive.

If you fall for Bernie's grift again you are literally retarded.

i really really want to see white people's nuclear level of seethe at her winning, even though itd never happen (whites would turn out at reagan levels to stop her)

That would quite a plot twist.

Tariffs can be hard to unravel. We still have tariffs on Volkswagon trucks from the 60's when we didn't want them to compete with US trucks
But these tariffs are so broad and so heavily disliked that I think it would light a fire under their ass

Nowhere. You either acquire it naturally (like most people) or you never get it. Teaching it is a waste of effort. Those in the class who do not already have this information will get no value from the exercise.

German/US 10yr yield spread fucking dumping

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Clone Sanders would fix it.

Yes they will, this is a trade embargo not a normal tariff plan

Why didn't you vote for kamala bro

make more clones, he could fill the entire cabinet

let me exit my positons before noon I have real work to do

comp sci

furry

thinks programming should be interfacing with webs of objects instead of math expressions

kek i cant blame your kind for being consistent

vibescrabbing now

inb4 Trump takes a play out of Caesar's playbook and nominates himself as chairman while retaining his seat as president

I hate to say it boys but the only way to save this country is a cabinet of cloned grumpy jews who are less warm on Israel than Donny (somehow)

There's only one Sanders for the mind transfer anon

Is that due to lobbying?
General whole country tariffs seem pretty easy to undo.

Because I'm frog

i actually used to trust that bastard
slimy motherfucker has no morals at all

why is WMT oscillating rapidly? by all rights walmart should be dumping bc china. and their groceries, while local, hardly turn a profit

I stand by my earlier "zoom out" comments. Today looks even more dramatic than before but it still barely moves the needle on the 5 day chart. What an absolutely crazy time to be alive.

Holy shit. Language acquisition and Grammar are not synonymous you fucking dumbass. Confirmed retard.

reading comprehension

You are part of the problem kek, where did I say that? Oh, I didn't.
Again, you either get it, or you don't. fucking retard.

All their competition for cheap shit are going to go bankrupt leaving Walmart with the market cornered.

Lots of stories out about how Walmart is trying to make the Chinese suppliers eat as much of the cost as they can

Polling would be reliable again of the rebanned robocalls

so it’s raw cope and the second news breaks (again) that china won’t eat the cost, they’re down

Most of those have leads within the margin of error, though. Trump ultimately won by 1.5% in the popular vote so even that is squarely within those margins.

They don’t fucking eat it bro. No one who has any of these “it’s a poverty problem”hippy dippy views understands the wild basketball American because they have never actually lived among them. They live like shit because they want to. No amount of money or community programs or crime leniency or free housing will change anything

you don't know how to read a poll.
3.5 - 4% margin of error is massive and the final results were within the estimation.
secondly, National polling isn't relevant when battleground states are all that matters.

New thread doko

Bonds trading like crypto

I do know actually, and if the polls are wrong by margin of 4-1 they're obviously a fucking failure.

japanese would be a nightmare. Infer the meaning from the context.
Perhaps coding could only happen in english

subject verb object

STOP THE COUNT
STOP THE FUCKING COUNT

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Perhaps coding could only happen in english

No there's romance coding languages developed before English code became the standard.

Ruby is jap

Just because you can speak a language with internalized awareness of its rules doesn't mean you can express that awareness in a systematized way, or that you even have awareness of what the society's standard is. A fucking redneck in bumfuck nowhere doesn't naturally acquire Standard American English grammar, he acquires a set of rules that work for communication in his shithole town. He has to be taught what is grammatically correct for the society as a whole. That's the entire reason study of grammar was ever a subject you fucking moron.

Save us Jerome

i didn't say shit about objects. objects are meaningless, mostly. i can implement a simple object system in like 20 lines of Scheme. i have done it before, actually. objects are nothing special, they're quite similar to lexical closures in terms of primitives. (using smalltalk definition here obv).
OO is not really fundamental. i can pick 1/3rd of an ad-hoc object system and implement that if it benefits a legible interface. or i can go full OO, or not at all. the question isn't whether FP or OOP or "math expressions" (??), the question is fundamentally about language, as i said.

or, in other words:

Our design of this introductory computer-science subject reflects two major concerns. First, we want to establish the idea that a computer language is not just a way of getting a computer to perform operations but rather that it is a novel formal medium for expressing ideas about methodology. Thus, programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute. Second, we believe that the essential material to be addressed by a subject at this level is not the syntax of particular programming-language constructs, nor clever algorithms for computing particular functions efficiently, nor even the mathematical analysis of algorithms and the foundations of computing, but rather the techniques used to control the intellectual complexity of large software systems.

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that's not true, the correct grammar is the one the lardass from bumfukistan thinks is correct. grammars in our age are not prescripive, but descriptive.

NEW THREAD DOKO

They can't haha.

We're going to take away your manufacturing jobs, again!

Literally a losing ticket.

/smg/ dieded...

It's not a universally accepted measure, it was created by CBOE to sell as market downturn protection

good post, but wouldn't it have been easier to admit that fiddling with structures is fundamentally different than (and inferior to) old fashioned FP?

Target for the EURUSD is 1.25 at least. However, I doubt that Trump has mastered "The Art Of The Soft Landing, so there might be some overshoot.

No manufacture is coming, only pain
Realistically, the dems wont be able to remove them because congress will do it first

congress will

lol, lmao

ITS UP

gonna take chinese in school next year if education even exists then...

Public schools are not a real education. It's taxpayer funded babysitting for single moms

*taps the sign*

*points to the parts sourcing*

*now add 145% tariff*

manufacturing ain't coming back

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new thread??

descriptivism

It's true that his grammar is correct for communication in his own community, but that isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about whether grammar needs to be taught in school. And the answer in this case is yes, because the lardass from bumfukistan needs to be taught what the society's standard is, or else he's going to have difficulty interacting within it outside of his small community.

The argument from before was:

you acquire grammar naturally

therefore you don't need to be taught it in school

So here's how this plays out:

lardass from bumfukistan naturally acquires language and internalizes the grammatical rules for his own community.

He acquired grammar so he doesn't need to be taught it in school

lardass from bumfukistan can't understand anything in class, doesn't progress any further in his education

Grammar needs to be taught so the lardass from bumfukistan can communicate and receive information in this environment.
But, apparantly you either acquire grammar naturally or you don't (the societal standard I mean).

The factories are already going up and the job contracts are signed. The time of globohomos selling US jobs is over.

Which ones and where?

Yeah I trust congress to save their political career when reality hit

Based plan truster

intel priming itself for another dump

Hey
So basically I'm just gonna keep dollar cost averaging
I know... UGH I know...
I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's just that I'm gonna buy every dip is all
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAAHAAH

Off the top of my head: semi fabs, Apple will invest $500 billion, ME has already invested, I just read some 80000 South Carolina BMW units in production, Tesla has many factories coming on line this decade, etc. but just look around yourself. And this is only manufacturing. White collar is realizing offshoring and visas aren't so great as well.

Should I buy baba?

no, buy VTI

This is how it was designed from it's inception, to keep kids of the streets.

Who the fuck keeps buying this anyway? When the weekend is just around the corner, at that.

It has to go up at some point, right?

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I was hoping to close out a portion of my puts before the weekend but I guess I’ll probably have to ride on the chance that the market drops 25% next week lol. Doubly painful since no trading on Friday

Well it's made them retarded and youth crime is at decades high

take a lexical closure; you initiate its environment, then you can manipulate the captured variables by calling that closure. in essence, you have encapsulated, local state and a mechanism to send/receive messages. this is already a structure similar to an object. so i disagree they're fundamentally different.

the question really comes down to managing state; if your program state is too fragmented and all packed into a rube goldberg machine of structures, yeah that's terrible and why java-style OOP fails so much. but in the end, you can't reduce program state (unless you have duplicated state, which ofc. also often happens with shit java-style OOP or sometimes because it's an actual good idea). you can only shuffle state around, and make damn sure it's all neat and tidy. FP helps with that of course because of immutability and expressions vs. statements. but you can write object-oriented code without falling into that trap. just not... java-style code. if you value your sanity.

i mean, like i said, i've written Lisp code that included ad-hoc object systems. but of course i was still writing functional code; just with objects. objects are like lexical closures or monads or burritos. all just different abstract interfaces. there's not one silver bullet for the underlying problem of state management.

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Republican consumer sentiment at the peak of the 2020 Covid shitshow was twice as high as it was under a normal year of Biden

lolwtf

Dear God. It's real. The fabled "Programmer who uses objects without fucking everything up". I thought you were a myth...

Yeah but

LISP

Smalltalk

He must be like 60 years old. White people of that generation could use anything without fucking up.

he's not that old, he hasn't even mentioned haskell yet...

i feel like the problem is that most programmers who do OOP just do OOP. like, they've learned java and that's it. they simply never bother to actually learn, well, programming from the first principle. they never ask themselves "what's the big idea behind this?" so they never understand what lead to the paradigm; they simply accept the paradigm is how it is.
lmao no i just have a fetish for dead programming languages. FORTH, now that was a good one.

Congratulations that's a worthy hobby.
I know FORTH, it was a fad in the early 1990s when I was at university. Not ver useful kek.
We did funny exercises like writing a LISP interpreter in LISP (surprisingly easy), or doing simulations with Smalltalk-80.
So my first employment after uni was in a project writing 100.000 + lines of clean ANSI C. It would still be easy to compile and maintain today, and probably outperform any Java you could come up with.
t. 58 yo software engineer

I know FORTH, it was a fad in the early 1990s when I was at university. Not ver useful kek.

beautiful in concept and implementation though. i love it for that. factor is more useful for stack-oriented programming, but i gotta be honest... that shit hasn't clicked with me yet, i'm quite bad with it.

We did funny exercises like writing a LISP interpreter in LISP (surprisingly easy)

yeah, homoiconity makes it pretty simple. LISP is my favorite. it's so very expressive yet simple. i talked earlier about designing domain-specific languages, and that to me is quintessentially lisp. i don't have to worry about syntax or needing to do shit 'pythonic', instead i can just focus on writing a language that describes the problem i want to solve. and that is so damn powerful.

So my first employment after uni was in a project writing 100.000 + lines of clean ANSI C. It would still be easy to compile and maintain today, and probably outperform any Java you could come up with.

not a big C guy, but i can write some in a pinch. and i'd rather do that than Java for sure.

t. 58 yo software engineer

i'm in my 30s... fuck. i'm the equivalent to the guy who gets far too much into golfing in their 20s.

call on stocks of raw hopium
everyone is basically saying

n-no haha he's just kidding it won't really happen

while sweating bullets and praying five different deities that Xi call Orangie

Bobo status?

first fat sex when?

Yelan sexo

F5

it's going down again