/smg/ - Stock Market General

Orange Technical Indicator edition

Educational sites:

investopedia.com/
khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiOs3-llXq5CGQPNHf_3-nYZ4d_w7OP52

Financial TV Streams:

watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

Charts:

tradingview.com
finscreener.com
koyfin.com/
portfoliovisualizer.com

Screeners:

finviz.com/
tradingview.com/screener
etfdb.com/

Options

optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
optionsprofitcalculator.com
optionstrat.com/
optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

Pre-Market and Live data:

investing.com/indices/indices-futures
finance.yahoo.com/

Calendars

marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
earningswhispers.com/calendar
cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

Boomer Investing 101:

bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

Misc:

finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
market24hclock.com/
wallmine.com/
fintel.io/
dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
brokerchooser.com/

Previous thread:

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Ezy Money, bitches

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the mere thought of professional investor's with MBA's lurking on truth social to find out if annoying orange posted anything stupid is quiet amusing

Standing desks are the future yes

Sexy women liking me back on tinder is a bear signal. They’d only swipe right on an ugly bastard like me if they really need money

Assume Xi doesn't call and Blump doesn't flake, but he doesn't add any more tariffs to Mexico or anything and he/media moves on to a different story. What's fair value for the S&P

to find out if annoying orange posted anything stupid

he is pumping the markets with tweets and news conferences, if you cant make serious money based on his pumps you have no business being in this thread

based
well at least you signal wealth!

well at least you signal wealth!

meant for :/

I have taken to perching on a pilates ball for part of the evening. I think it has improved my lower back strength or something. Feels better anyway. I don't sit at a desk at work so that's a non-issue there.

barting and bouncing

buy the dip sell the rip. choose a good company whose stock is volatile and if dips again after you buy you still got a good price, hold a little longer and it will rip soon.

crabby bear market with a clown tendency

#
my parents are mostly fine people who have never done anything but support me. they are unfortunately members of the worst generation in American history, one that managed to squander the most historically advantageous position for any nation in the modern world out of sheer myopic self-interest at the expense of all other generations younger and older than them. It brings me great joy knowing that they'll die in a state of panic as their entire world crashes around them, the rational summation of their buckleyite reaganite thatcherite greed come to roost in the form of a fat fucking spray-tan queen they all overwhelmingly cheer for

Excuse me for soliciting stock discussion in the stock thread but I need to know what kind of meme to stock up on

Can this shit hurry up and collapse? I'd rather be impoverished than be stuck staring at graphs worrying myself to death

WE WON

Were you not around in '08? This takes months.

Are there professional Trump readers out there, like Trumpologists that specialize in forecasting Trump? I need help with my trades.

not investing into guns and manufacturing

Anon Babbleness is gonna BLOOOOM

ISHYGDDT

check out qanon

investing in manufacturing

i have a bridge to sell you and a few tunnels too

I mean gun manufacturing dummy why do you think I put guns first?

Investing in guns under a Republican president

World's worst investor

I was 6 years old, man, all I remember is bakugan

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no no no NO THIS CANNOT BE HAPPENING IT WAS OUR TURN

AIIIEEE STOP MUMU SAVE ME

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meme lines and astrology

do reddit tards really?

Trumpical Analysis is the corner stone to any modern investment strategy

You guys do realize that if no deal is made and the trade war continued, the Fed will HAVE to raise rates in order to preserve the dollar as a reserve currency?

I want you to understand that.

dxy crashing

bond yields spiking

markets crashing

A total flight from dollar assets means the Fed HAS to do this. It is their mandate. The bond market is on the verge of total US death mode.

professional investor's with MBA's

dont make me laugh

What, you invest in guns under a Republican president so you can sell them for twice as much under a Democrat president

Fed will HAVE to raise rates

that will crash the US budget by making the debt payments too high. This stunt was supposed to lower the interest rate so Trump could refi to reduce the debt expense, but it backfired.

Wouldn't a dollar flight mean Jay cuts

economic depression

huge military budget cuts

ammo surplus flood the market

bullet prices start to free fall

why would you invest in guns ATM? are you stupid?

me when I make shit up

My plan is to kill rich people and take their shit. I'm not a communist but you can't claim to be a capitalist under rigged markets. And in the end, everyone gets what they deserve, because life demands an equilibrium to your insanity

Lower dollar means prices go up for Americans

The threads are so comfy late at night. besides the namefag

we do need more luigis

who are you killing first?

slurping trash that doesn't match earnings expectations

do a little research on the debt and deficit tard

Everyone woke up from the lie this week.
Economists have been overstating how safe the US economy is for a long time.
Now everyone sees the risk and that spikes the risk.
Its time for a death spiral handing off bags till nobodys left in the casino

post list of names

Your mom's pussy

Based moderate

Oh ya you're right. I was using the shortcut that he's usually supposed to keep bond yields stable but that's not part of le dual mandate

A respectable bi-partisan

I know plenty about the debt and deficit. Can you cite a source that the whole reason for the tariffs is to force interest rates down so the debt is financeable?

Nobody has physical cash anymore, what are you going to steal, their copper wiring?

this image made me remember to put the tea in the water, thank you mr. president

Can you cite a source

M. Yass

Their house, their land, everything on it, drain their bank accounts and kill anyone who tries to stop me.

futures pumping

shitcoins pumping

yields dumping

yep, and just like that, the generational bottom is in

but you can't claim to be a capitalist under rigged markets

Nigga. You get that capitalism (very dumbed down) is the rigging of markets so the rich can further accumulate capital, right? The insanely rich becoming even richer at the expense of the middle and lower class is not a mistake of capitalism, but the intention of it

Totally BTFO instantly

how far back in the archives do I have to go to find more replies of yours that says tariffs are for such and such reason? I bet maybe only a week

Damn cat bounces

drain their bank accounts

don't you need bank verification to do that?

egg prices hit a record high average of 6.23

It's over...

what the fuck happened at 1am to trigger this pump

lel
i am become meme!!!!!!111!!!1!1!

I'll have access to their computers.

Yesterday was red so todays gonna be green

don't they have passwords?

Buy it all. Today.

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the ball landed on black, so its gotta land on red this time!

What props these slurpes sometimes?
Just some liquidations?

this happens in every time of turmoil, and then afterwards napoleon shows up when they're sick you (you)r chaos, they find you, and you and other looters are tortured to death (as you deserve).

how far back in the archives

start digging fag

Whoever copied my FUCKING POST SHOW YOURSELF

nah

Is it pumping because the dollar is crashing? Does it work like that or am I retarded?

If you have access to someones face/finger, you have access to their phone. If yopu have access to tehir phone you have access to their bank account. Simple as.

I'll be dead from old age by the time you show up.

Yeah. Losing money makes people sad so today were gonna make money

It’s pumping because Anon Babble shorted

so you are essentially saying every computer is unsafe?
i sure hope you didn't buy crypto, then

no

SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPPP

Saved on their computers for easy access. But also what this guy said

Literally nothing ever happens. The kikes aren't leaving the US.

How fucking sad is it that that adorable kitty is the highlight of my evening?
Thanks though
t. Rekt Leaf

answer this:

biz shorted

We don't have enough active posters to generate enough short power unless there is a billionaire here

I am very excited to introduce you to this new financial instrument called short selling

It doesn’t matter, even if only one Anon Babble poster is making a move the market will react in the opposite direction.

Man I really need to delete my brokerage app. Just realized it's a huge liability, you could literally drain my account if you had my hand and phone

Can you cite a source that the whole reason for the tariffs is to force interest rates down so the debt is financeable?

Trump ReTruthed a tiktok video that said he was crashing the economy for that reason

TRIPS OF TRVTKE

Get ready to be represented as a Chudjak

whole deal depends powell bailing him.out.

Even assuming any of these was his plan so much can wrong by missing timing it might as well be suicidal. He also wouldnt have paused tariffs for 90 days

"Bessent, in two interviews this week, said the Trump administration wants to focus on lowering long-term interest rates, which are largely influenced by the yield on the 10-year US Treasury note. The Fed’s decisions, on the other hand, have a more direct effect on short-term interest rates, which control borrowing costs for Americans. "
You really too stupid to see what he has been saying all over the media

Just don’t use biometric login for your phone and/or your app

eh, if it happens I give it a few months
opportunistic looting is pretty common but as you well know lefty-kun the american public is pretty bloodthirsty when it comes to revenge-justice
i imagine at some point something like that will go on, folks like you will be euphoric forgetting about cameras like the london looters did, and then there will be a lot hangings.

we're only in sulla and cataline times rn. caesar is a long way off leftykun,

I like to think there is some kind of protection against this built into the law. I mean, banks already refund purchases made by people who skimmed your card.

Except there isn't a flight to treasuries you dumb fuck.
They're dumping treasuries on the open market CAUSING YIELDS TO SPIKE. This is unheard of during market crashes. Its catastrophic. It signals a total loss of trust in the US economic system. They don't see them as a save haven during economic instability. They don't see the dollar as that either.
MONEY IS LEAVING THE US ECONOMIC SYSTEM AND GOING INTO OTHER AREAS, LIKE SWISS FRANCS.
you
STUPID
MOTHER
FUCKERS

WHY IS Anon BabbleSMG SO RETARDED

How can someone win if winning means that someone loses
-scatman john
Today were gonna make the negative nellies perk up and smile a bit more :)

Just smash the phone if someone is going to rob you

big if true
no you said he wanted to tariff to lower interest rates to refinance the debt. show me where he said thats why he wants lower interest rates.

Chicken go BBBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRap

HOLY FUTURES!!!!!!

I like this joke

It's true. The billionaires will not relocate their cocaine and child rape to Europe if they can just wait for midterms.

sometime medicine is necessary

Plunge protection

It's as safe as you make it (not accounting for inherent backdoors and CIA hacking). Let's be honest, most people are about convenience, especially the rich.

come to think of it doesn't hyperinflation usually end in deflation(weimar germany, yugoslavia)? the Anon Babble schizo might be right, trump will cause a deflationary spiral in the end

wouldn't it be most convenient to let someone else handle your money for you?

ANYWAYS
As long as Trump and Poobear both cuck in the next week or so, the financial apocalypse will be avoided.

Odds of that happening?

but you can't claim to be a capitalist under rigged markets

Lmao

Mmmm, STINKY GREEN FVTVRES... Time 2 SLURP!

You really expect me to be able to destroy Corning® Gorilla® Glass with my bare hands?

hey retard, go back and see what was written in the original post I was responding to Poster was talking about the Fed raising rates, I responded that raising rates would crash the US budget by making debt payments too high and you went full retard talking about tariff. Your reading comprehension is zero.

I say high but depends on the humor of Trump.
Today he looked awful.

What's going to happen in 90 days?

Bonds are fucked

idk if china wants to back out of this. it seems like they have the advantage strategically.

thinking too far ahead

OOF!.... you sound like a troon
come on anon, stop the TDS!!!

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let me predict, in 3 days trump will say he made a good deal with trump, lower tariffs and say taiwan belongs to china while china says they will let america take greenland

I mean is either he caves in, fed baile him.out or just implode the dolar.

Have you seen the amount of hacks done on major institutions? Most people assume they're more likely to get hacked online than hacked up IRL

that will crash the US budget by making the debt payments too high. This stunt was supposed to lower the interest rate so Trump could refi to reduce the debt expense, but it backfired.

This stunt was supposed to lower the interest rate so Trump could refi to reduce the debt expense, but it backfired.

This stunt

so Trump could refi to reduce the debt

yikes

I haven't tried it but apparently you can just stab your phone or hit it on a corner of furniture to tge screen

I fail to see how trump acting in a crazy way will convince the markets that the US is still a safe heaven

so you are essentially saying you cannot trust anything digital? like bitcoin is already hacked?

It would be a good start

multi millionaire trust fund

twink body

qt3.14 face

going to max security

famous

That boy is going to get them cheeks BUSTED.

china says they will let america take greenland

china isn't in the way of US taking greenland...

>qt3.14 face

not really

China the country is fine cucking, Trump the man is fine cucking, but Xi the man cannot easily cuck as Trump loves phone calls and it's apparently a huge deal domestically if the CCP general secretary comes back from a one on one call with nothing. But Trump will spontaneously cuck if the markets dump again

Nothing

The only thing that could bring some semblance of trust back would be congress forcing his hand.
Him backing off is meaningless since he could at any second for any reason decide to do it again. It's not like he doesn't have a history of doing just that

They're dumping treasuries on the open market CAUSING YIELDS TO SPIKE

be china

sell bonds to fuck over U.S.

use liquidity to short dollar

say you're winning

be U.S.

faggot chinks throw temper tantrum

they sold their high yield bonds?

buy back your dollars

squeeze their shorts

re-issue lower rate bonds

use strengthened dollar to issue cheaper debt

chinks have to capitulate and buy back at lower rates

walk away a winner

I mean... Trump is over here talking about other countries manipulating their currencies against the USD, and he was probably taking a dump when he came up with this idea to do it back kek.

Good morning /smg/

like bitcoin is already hacked?

Theres already been multiple exchanges that have been hacked.

the us bond market is a zeitgeist.
people could just choose to continue seeing it as valuable even if it logically doesnt make sense
some people on an island traded using stones and one stone even sunk in a shipwreck but they still traded it.
asking about bond market collapse is asking a question of faith in the US hegemon
society is run by boomers, just because you're blackpilling doesnt mean that everybody has abandoned the system yet.
the spirit is leaving the body but who knows how long itll take

he's 100% gonna be the prison's waifu

They're making fun of us on bant

sure but he isn't cute. he's very average

/pmg/ won

just say it

You should go back nigger

Good time to buy treasuries yet or should I wat for 7%?

Trump already looked ready to cuck today. He sounded much more dovish not only on China, but on all tariffs. Even talked about being open to extending the 90 days.

He's going to jail in NY where there's real criminals, he has a big attitude and sense of entitlement from his upbringing and fame, he's a lefty so naturally effeminate, and he's 5'7".

It won't happen now because he'l' be in protective custody. But in 5 years time he'll be slurping shot caller semen at shank point.

I have no idea what that is

What do you buy your dollars with?
How are you going to squeeze their shorts?
How are you going to finance your debt with low rate bonds that nobody will buy?
You need to at least think 1 step ahead.

you arent doing enough trumpology
too many people are saying he's weak for backign down
he needs to fuel his ego so he's going to double down over the weekend.

see

5'7"

he should just transition

surprise fed cut tommorow judging from the future movement

They're not saying he's weak though, everyone he's surrounded himself with can't stop kissing his ass.

nigs and jews with their rape fantasies

sorry, he has conviction. not going to happen

due to financial disclosures Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene went all in on stocks hit hardest by tariffs according to AP

Lululemon, Dell Computer, Amazon, the parent of Restoration Hardware and a few others hit hard by Trump’s tariff threats were down 40% on average late last week when she pounced.

True but he wants to cuck, in his heart of hearts he likes line go up more than he hates trade deficit. But like a tragic hero he cannot grasp the accounting identity twixt the two

I'm betting on closing red today because xi and friends want max pressure on orange menace so he doesn't get to relax at the golf during the weekend
not financial advice, I'm probably right or wrong, it'll probably crab, or even moon, idk nothing make sense anymore, fundamentals got raped

he doesnt like not being in control. he has to fuck with his supporters to remind them who the boss is. my astrolabe says additional tariffs on denmark and a greenland buyout offer

depression happens

multiple legal precedents for confiscating all your gold, in fact its a legal certainty

COME AND TAKE IT FEDS!!!111

they do, and you die, and also they take all your money

there's nothing more retarded than hoarding gold like a greedy dragon.
at least hoard something the courts haven't already ruled the government can confiscated.

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Bullish, Denmark is economically inconsequential. He may even wrap up his China deal to focus on it.

That's good to know, I searched it online and the closest thing I got was a Pokemon MastersEX General in Anon Babble kek

just do nothing and watch the money in your bank account vanish

nice

Pm what? You need to go back.

he doesn't have his gold in swiss vaults (genuinely easy and cheap to do)

he's the type anon. little guys with big attitudes are the ones who get made into someones bitch. prison isn't a kind place. especially not ny state prisons.

wwhy would anyone want to have a bunch of shiny rocks in an apocalypse? at least steal will be useful

zestie niggas will be blowing him

shes a gambling addict.

I'd rather be buried with shiny rocks than live like a slave

its a mystery

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Dell Computer is a really questionable choice

even if Trump wants to cuck, I don't think Bessent and other will let him. I think Bessent and Navarro want to fight China until the end, and Lutnick wants a crash

Whispering into Trump's ear while he sleeps to trigger a nightmare and make him announce more tariffs tomorrow

gonna use another sheep's liver
EU is going to put retalitory tariffs on America for targeting denmark at 20% and THEN trump will cuck out on everything besides a 20% tariff on stereotypical european things.

Its a wonder she works in the same building as america's best stock market traders. She always has the losing bet. Good thing she has that giga-salary and bribes to keep this going

If the big man cucks the jesters do the needful

Gold acts as a neutral trade item. Say you want steel but all the shit you have no one wants to trade you for. That's where shiny rocks come in.

and neutrality is back on the menu boys

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*sacks lips*

mmmmmm

*sucks teeth*

hmmmmmmmm

buy physical gold, put it in an acid proof, long lasting box.

before death bury it and in your final moments show a picture to your remaining family and tell them the last one alive gets to have it

Yeah, it seems like Dell would be especially harmed by the trade war. It combines computer parts from China and sells the computer for thin margins, right?

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tsla put expiring today -80%

rip my 11k

ask chatgpt

but gold serves no use if there's no economy while something like grain would do well when trading items

hahaha i KEKed pretty hard fair play leftyfaggot reddit anon.

How thing looking btw?
Is it just crab day

my bets are either crabs or starts green like Tuesday and slowly slides down hard

Denmark is economically inconsequential

bro, your mærsk and novo nordisk?

uh oh stinky

Denmark has a really hard language

Each % lost today is height of the ledge I'll jump off.

What. If there's no economy and no currency then gold serves in its place. How hard is this for you to understand? You act like gold hasn't been a common trade commodity for all of human history.

On one hand this reeks of the same sort of conspiratorial thinking that every retard tries to apply to every major chain of events
On the other, it makes sense and sounds like exactly what Noam Chompsky has been saying for 50 years

I guess we'll all find out soon.

their toddlers speak better english than the american president

Some top brass Siemens dude died

Sure, but grain is perishable, you can't be sure one bushel of grain is worth the same as another bushel, large payments would require transporting huge amounts of grain, etc.

Probably crabs again

Should I post as a perma bull or perma bear tomorrow?

So 5% down is 5cm?

why not both?

pump rates to save the dollar, endure a massive depression in the stock market

cut rates to avoid bonds from death spiraling, become Weimar

Which way, fed man?

slowly slides down hard

I think my option is still a lost cause

what purpose does gold serve? in a post-apocalyptic world peple would want goods that would satisfy their immediate needs, say matches, bullets, canned food etc not a pretty rock.

crab it is
ngmi

As a millenial I unironically voted for him and he is the first politician I feel a connection with in 30 years. He is willing to upend the entire global order just to ensure Average Joe has a decent job and that is so out of ordinary that he's probably already a contender for the top 5. He is doing exactly what I feel he should be doing to fix this country

What happens to the debt if the US ends up in deflation?

4/10 bait

Heh heh heh. Yeah, maybe it does sound like Chomsky.

You're gunna get cucked. All uncle has to do is hold his hang out.

Everyone who predicts a crab tomorrow is a Republican.

EO6102

i really hope this happens

What happens to the debt if the US ends up in deflation

Decrease in money velocity, dollars exiting the economy, fear, reduction in productivity and GDP makes the debt burden heavier, death spiral.

A post apocalyptic world is no different from the world the way it was for thousands of years before industrialization. Gold has always been a store of value throughout all human history. If you can't understand that you're literally retarded

Everyone that slurps is negative iq

imagine the implications of the government taking peoples assets (including crypto and stocks)

what purpose does gold serve?

There is some unwritten rule in humanity's social DNA that gold will remain valuable no matter what, and it's far more universally accepted that silver, platinum, or even gemstones.
Aside from goods immediately necessary for survival (food, water) and what can be used for low level barter (ammo, cigarettes, medicine) everyone will accept gold as a store of value that can be exchanged for goods anywhere at some point in the future

these niggers REALLY expect me to believe she disclosed thesse financial statemets immediately after purchase instead of waiting the full 45 days permitted??

not like shorting is any higher iq. Too many normies doing it

If u have no relatives and leave no instructions the government takes your shit

Somehow, ancient humans found the time to cherish gold jewelry.

But the more important point is that humans already think of gold as a default currency. It's a powerful meme in most cultures today. So in a collapse scenario, there's a good chance we'd standardize on gold.

stocks no,
but EO 6102 provides all the precedent you'd need to confiscate crypto, and any other asset that can easily be used as alternative currency and challenge the dollar.
trump could without fuss confiscate all shitcoin wallets in a weeks time if theres a run on the dollar.

Boring finance Republican - crab
MAGA Republican - comfy +2%
Boring centerleft Democrat - -5%
Schizo laborleft/antitrust/sinophile Democrat - giga bull

I have 5,000$ what do i do at 9:30 tommorow

real maga patriot spotted.

It's listed in the government trades section of benzinga. I can't see it cause no account tho. Also her trades have been reported by multiple news sights so I'm leaning towards true.

Gold has always been a store of value throughout all human history.

pretty sure the the natives in north america and siberia didn't think much of gold and bartered fur for guns and booze

sleep

the spirits be restless mon
we're gigabullish tomorrow then monday opens to a butcher shop

How do (You) save the bond market?

shizos will lose it all, don't they?

Tell your boss to fuck off and then retire in Monaco.

fro r/askhistorians(reddit, yes i know)

For people living in eastern North America prior to the arrival of Europeans, gold wasn't one of the metals they utilized. There just isn't much of it in the area, and what gold does exist is hard to extract. There are some gold artifacts made by the Calusa and their tributary communities in southern Florida, but none have been reliably dated to the pre-Columbian. The most likely, these items were made from gold salvaged from Spanish wrecks - something that the people of southern Florida are known to have done regularly according to the historical record (they'd also rescue the survivors of the shipwrecks and bring them to St. Augustine for reward / ransom, depending on how optimistic you're being about the relationship). That said, the Caribbean islands would provide a potential pre-Columbian source of gold and we know the Taino were making copper-gold alloys (one of the southern Florida artifacts is only 60% gold, the rest being copper and a bit of silver; though the silver would indicate a salvaged source again) and there was contact between Florida and the Caribbean islands. While the potential exists, there's nothing yet to confirm it.

Elsewhere in eastern North America, when Europeans showed up asking for gold, Native Americans generally lumped it in with copper. When Cartier asked the people of Hochelaga (now Montreal) if there was gold in the area, they pointed him westward, presumably in the direction of great copper deposits of Lake Superior.

from reddit

Copper was the most important metal used by people in the Eastern Woodlands. In ancient times (between 6000 and 3000 years ago to be more precise), the Old Copper Complex fashioned copper into all manner of tools, weapons, and ornaments, including knives, spearpoints, and awls, fishhooks. Here are some examples. The Old Copper Complex didn't smelt copper however. Since they were situation near those large native copper deposits around Lake Superior, they could easily mine raw copper directly and process it as needed. In this post I discuss how they went about mining that copper. Around 3000 years ago, there's a major shift in the copper industry in the area away from utilitarian purposes intended for local use and toward export (generally as raw materials that would be fashioned into ornamental or ceremonial items elsewhere). The Scioto Hopewell in Ohio (about 2100 - 1600 years ago) wore copper earspools and in at least one case a antlered copper headdress. This copper bird is another notable Scioto Hopewell artifact, because it has stylistic elements that would continue to be prevalent for centuries. Copper with these Mississippian copper "plates" and note, in particular, the >-shaped markings around the eyes. Here's a good look at what those markings are referencing. Both the Hopewell and the Mississippians had copper axes, but in both cases, they seem to have been ceremonial since there's wear patterns don't indicate that they were actually used for typical ax-related activities. The Hopewell also used copper to sheath their panpipes, as well as a few other miscellaneous uses. They also made silver earspools and iron beads and chisels; the silver came from Ontario and the iron came from meteorites.

increase corporate tax rate to 30% and add value added tax
sign a treaty distributing nuclear weapons to all US allies across the world and then disband the military besides a few ships to protect trade lanes
nationalize healthcare treatment and restructure it for less money than medicaid
ask for a cancellation of a lot of the bills in congress that are a lot of policy but no real impact, retain only the important infrastructure.
demand a stake in companies that receive subsidy or cut them off for good, use that money to increase revenue.

Copper would continue to be an important trade resource into the colonial era. But while it was valuable, it wasn't valued in the same sense that gold was by Europeans. The most important difference is that it was never monetized. When, due to European influences, the Native societies of New England adopted an indigenous currency, it wasn't based on copper. Instead, they used standardized lengths of color-coded wampum beads, which for a time were popular with the colonists too during the early 1600s; the colonial governments established set exchange rates and allowed colonists to pay their taxes, up to certain amounts, in wampum.

goldkikes BTFO

Dollar collapse will start will start WW3 100%

please go back to /pmg/ or reopen /cmmg(

fuck you guys are stupid
gold is incredibly hard to counterfeit that's why its a store of value

And we're green

Eurobulls win again

Hey folks, I’ve been doing some deep dives into what they aren’t telling us about our pre-colonial history, and boy, are you in for a surprise. So get this: apparently, long before Europeans landed here, native American civilizations were running a full-scale, covert precious metals trade that would put modern banks to shame.

I stumbled on what seems like irrefutable “evidence” (don’t @ me, it’s all in the underground sources on obscure forums) that tribes all across North America were mining massive deposits of gold, silver, and even platinum. Yup, you read that right—platinum. They supposedly had secret, state-of-the-art mining operations hidden in the Appalachian Mountains and deep in the Great Plains. These weren’t just small-scale panning operations; I'm talking elaborate systems with what must be thought of as ancient smelters that refined the ores right on site.

And here’s the kicker: these precious metals weren’t just hoarded for ceremonial purposes (like we’ve been led to believe); they were used as a currency for a sprawling trade network that linked tribes all the way to distant lands. Rumor has it that some Native groups even traded these metals with ancient Europeans and Asians, way before Columbus sailed the ocean blue. The idea is that cultural exchange and commerce happened on a scale so vast that modern economists would call it a “pre-modern global economy.”

pretty sure the the natives in north america and siberia didn't think much of gold and bartered fur for guns and booze

Yes well when you become a real man and can hunt and produce furs and find someone willing to trade for that then you won't need gold I guess.

I know it sounds straight out of a conspiracy thread, but think about it—so much archaeological “evidence” has been conveniently ignored or misinterpreted by mainstream academia. Why would indigenous peoples hide such valuable tech? Perhaps to protect their sovereignty from external powers or because the metals held secret ceremonial properties that we just don’t understand today.

Before you dismiss this as another history myth, consider: has anyone ever taken a close look at the inscriptions on ancient mounds and petroglyphs? Many of these symbols resemble modern trade logos (I know, it’s wild). Combine that with oral traditions passed down through generations about “the great rivers of gold” flowing beneath the earth, and you’ve got a puzzle worth solving.

TL;DR: Pre-colonial Native Americans were not only sophisticated in their social structures but also masterminds of a vast, secret precious metal trade network—mining gold, silver, and platinum in elaborate hidden operations and trading it globally long before Europeans showed up. Mainstream historians aren’t ready to admit it, but the clues are all around us!

I know this sounds out there, but sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction. Feel free to share your thoughts or any “evidence” you might have come across. Let’s get a good discussion rolling!

The dollar will commit sudoku if Trump goes full Erdogan, sacks Powell and revs the money printer again to cut rates.

For people living in eastern North America prior to the arrival of Europeans, gold wasn't one of the metals they utilized

So what you're saying is, that I may not like it, but that this is what the savy wasteland investor looks like?

For people living in eastern North America prior to the arrival of Europeans... and what gold does exist is hard to extract

Weren't there a lot of gold rushes including people just dipping a pan in water?

>/pmg/

Schizo laborleft/antitrust/sinophile Democrat - giga bull detected.

Makes sense. Pre colonial north america was quite cozy, atleast thats what EU4 leads me to believe. Not alot of fighting just tribal people living on a breadbasket. Excluding the aztecs and incas i mean the people above the riogrande

Now show proof of sub africans doing it bet you can't

may i introduce you to the comanches

akshualy its more like a /cmmg/ topic

let's sack the Fed Chair and cut rates in an inflationary environment, that'll show the libs

Slow down Erdogan

They happily genocided each others

and cut rates in an inflationary environment

Sir, I've been assured by the most trusted experts on Fox that tariffs are deflationary

pre colonial

comanches

retard

you sure aint the macro kind of guy, eh?

it was cozy except when you got caught by a war party

0% chance this guy was walking in a forest

money.org/money-museum/virtual-exhibits-hom-case6/

Sub-Saharan Africa is one of the last regions of the world where traditional money was still being used into the second half of the 20th century. African traditional money ranges from numerous forms of iron and bronze objects to cloth, cowrie shells, salt, cattle and ivory. Unlike most traditional money from other regions, much more is known about how African types were used and how they were valued since many of them were used into recent times.

The diversity of metal objects used as money, especially iron, reflects the importance of metal-working for trade, tools and weapons across the continent. Iron and copper were used as money in the shape of spears, knives, rings, ingots and wire. Some of the more exotic examples include Katanga crosses, throwing knives and kissi pennies.

Many other natural resources were used as well, ranging from cowrie shells and cattle to elephant tail bracelets and salt. Some items were used locally and had value based upon difficulty to collect or produce; others were used as currency in long distance trade. Most had dual uses either as a form of money or as jewelry, spice or food. In most areas modern coinage and paper currency have replaced traditional forms but, interestingly, traditional money is often depicted on the modern currency, providing a sense of economic continuity and stability to its users.

goldsisters how do we cope?

You're retarded for assuming there weren't always conflicts for resources.

The U.S. budget deficit has grown to more than $1.3 trillion in the first half of the 2025 fiscal year — the second highest six-month deficit on record

we getting crabs today?

>/pmg/

I'm not sure the MAGAtards who votes so "inflation goes to zero" will be happy about this.

Even puts, odds call at open

Rolling

please go back to wherever you came from

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perma bull
let's make a big, beautiful bull trap for the afternoon dump

Small JP Morgan's analysis on why, beyond tariffs, the market is losing confidence in the US economy, the redacted parts are mostly about law firms.

wake up excited for another day of watching the idiot carousel

nothing fucking happens

all he had to do was pause the tariffs huh

they don't reply to me

lurk 10,000 years

Saars, why pump? Trump not say anything meaningful.

you can stay

complete babby here.

Bonds are just a fixed term deposit essentially and having a higher rate on them means they expect inflation during the term period?

I have a fixed sperm deposit for you.

and you should consider self inflicted death

New ID

witnessed
how to profit off that?

Wew dollar dumped bigly. Really makes you think.

waaah we totally didn't elect a fucking retard who ruined everything its THEM

Time for foreigners to enjoy a cheap holiday in America.

Lots of countries have issued travel warnings due to shitfuckery happening at the borders

Kek

calls on ropes I guess

Mediocre bait

I've been to US a couple of times and they always treat you like a criminal at the border. Probably doesn't help that I flew to JFK desu.

low effort comment
post tickers of rope manufacturers
preferably us based

You buy bonds for 100. After x time govt gives you back 105. So the yield is 5%.
If lot of people sell bonds the price goes down but the govt will still pay the same 105 so the yield rises
The fed raises rates so borrowing costs rise and the money circulation slow down. But rates can also go up if people lose confidence (or don't want to invest) in the country's ability to actually pay back the bond so the govt has to give higher interest to make the higher risk worth

always treat you like a criminal at the border

true same experience even if I'm whiter and richer than them TSA agents

Thank you.

Sex. Sperm. Cum. Cum in your belly. Deposit of cum inside your belly.

Look at the 10 year.

They don't treat you like a criminal if you're brown at the border. The female TSA agents finger your asshole and fondle your balls. I dripped my precum all over one of the TSA agents' latex gloves. That was my introduction to USA.

based and cum pilled

Look at the 10 year.

boring

damn browns trully experience the american dream

Burgers and BBC wasn't an internet meme?

My job wanted to send me to the US to do a software implementation this summer and I flat out told my boss I absolutely do not fancy gambling on a chance of a trip to El Salvador and I simply will not travel to the US because it is not safe. His fucking expression was priceless.

DUMPING

ERPing about SHITTED unprompted

Turdworld Shitskin's Law

Why are we growing? Bobos?

your information is out of date I'm afraid

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I said the same thing to my boss kek. Wanted me to travel to USA again but I refused because of the situation. Despite how great the TSA was...free female attention doesn't outweigh the risk of getting sent to El Salvador randomly by the authoritarians. We've struggled to find engineers willing to travel to USA lately.

shrimp, dodos and bobos yes

jewish magic tricks

Trump-sama pls.., my portfolio..., it is very ill

its green

NOOO MY TESLA SHORTS

125% TARIFFS ON AMERICAN GOODS TO CHINA

30yr t-bill yield: 4,911%

eurodollar rises 1,50% in a day, again

US debt default when?

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Literally meaningless.

BREAKING: China says it is raising tariffs on US goods to 125%

When a credit company moves the US to AA i expect to see it crumble that season

It means our glorious leader Xi doesn't back down! Very good leader, lots of rice!
Take that, american devil.

Unless you're a certain cheeto

Trump will retaliate and we crash.

NEW

That shows the rate being higher in January? Don't recall things being doom and gloom back then.

125% instead of 145%

So he's okay with the 20% he got from fentanyl or whatever it was to begin with?

arr but my treasure is buried in an undisclosed location, ye will never find my gold

This didn't age well

What were they like last week?