/smg/ - Stock Market General

Really tempted to dump my giant euros on nvdia when it drops a bit more... even if it tanks I can make much more than the bank just by selling covered calls.... but everyone says to keep 6 months of wages in reserve...

Guys, you really need to coordinate your baking a little better.

gold KEEPS going up

Should I buy gold mining stocks?

We already have a thread

How will this affect the markets?

I hope you understand that Spy is going to hit 400 soon.

This is almost perfect inflation
I still dont understand why we want to undo this

not at all because tariffs are going to spike that, we need to see the effects before the fed decides

Because you need to manufacture 6 million shells in a year like DPRK

For me, it's Scout.

delist SPY
no more problems

My gut tells me that I need to short everything, but I got burned so hard yesterday that I don't think I have the balls to do it again.

2% inflation

perfect

dirty kike hands typed this

Why the fuck is NOBODY talking about gold?
It hit ANOTHER ATH while the stock market cratered.
Gold mining companies are going to be releasing their earnings and it's going to be insane.

Top losers

3 of them are oil/energy companies

What did trump mean by this

Would you rather 20%?

Any good ones to look out for? I've been looking for places to put my savings and calling it quits on this clown market for some time.

China effectively under a trade embargo

illegal farmers and hotel workers can stay (lol)

biggest bull run didn't even get back to the top it was before, already bleeding

removing overdraft fee limit on banks

killing the value of petrodollar

mass insider trading

lost control of /ptg/

the plan is there is no plan

still wants rate cuts

Truly, 16D Hyperborean bagatelle.

come on enough of that muh gold standard shit, this is smg and the stock market could not exist without inflation to encourage investment and grind the dispossessed deeper into highly productive poverty

Now I am in cash and clawed back my liberation day loss I am sitting enjoying the show. Will it be black friday or black monday for the next leg down?

He said he was going to restart energy in America he forgot to mention it will be

BIG

BEAUTIFUL

CLEAN

COAL

My decently wealthy parents asked me if I want 100k euros to day trade with, because some business friend told them it's a good period for investments.
Said they don't mind if I lose it all.
What the fuck am I supposed to buy now

I have a meme economics degree btw

Private nuclear plants en masse

The CCCP invasion of Taiwan?

They're losers and we're tired of winning

After a couple days of reading bone runes, I have come to a conclusion that china is dumping treasuries and Japan plus large private equity firms are slurping them just enough to keep the yield below 5. China is buying euro bonds, and because nobody else does, their yields are crashing.

In exchange for dropping tariffs, jav will be fully uncensored and soap land will open up locations in the United States.

BIG BEAUTIFUL COAL
MOST BEAUTIFUL LUMPS OF COAL
COAL SO CLEAN, I LOVE LOOKING AT BIG BURLY MEN MINE COAL

In all seriousness oil has been tanking for weeks

Agree fuck teh gold standard but gold has performed very well in the last year and a gold ETF the only thing I am holding aside from cash

lost control of /ptg/

Real?

fucking snowline before their MRE in the next few weeks holy fuck

they're probably going to get bought out

But what about H? Will H be uncensored? Inquiring minds need to know.

Doge is halping guis

a slide doesnt imply a crash

Not now, but severely increases the chances of one

Hedge funds overleverage on US treasuries to increase the yield on a relatively risk-free asset,

that asset suddenly depreciates

it'll get them margin called

which they can't afford unless they sell other assets

We’re playing 24th dimensional Finno-Ugric backgammon now kid, you’re just along for the ride.
Trust the plan.

Why the fuck is NOBODY talking about gold?

/smg/ has been talking about it for months. The gold price has been pushing upwards for a while. There have been Bloomberg headlines about it. It's a big topic at the moment.

it's a good period for investments.

It is not. We are nowhere near a bottom and you defnitely don;t want those Euros in shit like the dollar while it is falling..

I moved shit into silver instead, fucking stupid move, even with 10k in there I'll be lucky to make 100 back

We must secure the existence of our people and a future for European children.

Jesus Christ lol what website is this? Time to make some MAGA merch and advertise the shit out of it on there

Unironically, how soon will war with China be? Will the ChiHawks force it through using this economic fumble? 6 months? Will the ChiComs wait until Trump is on his way out to maximize their naval prep?
Try to de-couple their economy from the US to avoid the massive SHTF situation that war will cause?

EU defence ETFs

CCCP has been dead since 1991 anon

EVERYONE HATING ON A BOOLY

Are you fucking retarded your orange nigger literally threatened the global economy because he thinks trade deficits are bad

fair trade rates

Are you retarded he literally won't even commit to get rid of the ten percent on countries with surplus Singapore tried and was rejected

respectful fear

Yeah bro definitely crazy lunatics threatening to literally blacklist Chinese stocks

Buy volatility index

Market goes up and down

Somehow going up after going down isn't volatile.

I know, but I don't want to burst their bubble (and I want to take the money).
It isn't exactly a long into SPY time.

I’m tired, boss

the petrodollar is ALWAYS destined to lose thanks to the fact you can't refill fossil fuel caverns
it is the epitome of a slurpcoin, not long term investment

Like a single tiny drop of rain pouring on a raging inferno.

Check that poster's image on the archive.

Buying some shares then, thanks. All this clownery around the tech stocks is making me stress out. Just want some stable stocks for once.

lost control of /ptg/

Qrd

morningstar.co.uk/uk/etf/snapshot/snapshot.aspx?id=0P00006Q0O

Holy fucking shit your shitty memes made swedish news

petrodollar

What fucking year did you just wake up from?

Chinese made it they are actually confused

everyone but China at the table

You were calling Europeans third worlder slaves until yesterday, and now you want them at your side? There's an entire planet to trade with.

Fair trade rates

The US has the highest tariffs on the planet, above shitholes like the Congo

Respectful fear

MIGAs look like clowns worldwide

Yes, but not in the US.

And this also forces them to exit their short positions, causing bull traps.

>lost control of /ptg/

fucking what? did shills take over the general or did Momiji finally remove her maga hat?

Yeah I was wondering about that. At this point what even is the difference between shorting the market and longing VIX?

uh guys, what do i do? i'm all cash and USD
im scared

we need to move from petrodollar to pedrodollar

That sucks anon silver is great fun for collectors but if you do gold do it in an ETF so you can get rid of it fast and cheap and make sure it is somewhere well regulated and physical backed.

"Gold Bullion Securities (GBS) is designed to offer security holders a simple and cost-efficient way to access the gold market by providing a return equivalent to the movements in the gold spot price less the applicable management fee. GBS is backed by physical allocated gold held by HSBC Bank plc (the custodian). Only metal that conforms with the London Bullion Market Association's (LBMA) rules for Good Delivery can be accepted by the custodian. Each physical bar is segregated, individually identified and allocated."
morningstar.co.uk/uk/etf/snapshot/snapshot.aspx?id=0P00006Q0O

check out /cmmg/ on bant, fren

Confirmed bizraeli.

removing overdraft fee limit on banks

Please say sike
This is a hacking nightmare if so.
Leaked or stolen card numbers mean a malicious person could purposefully rack up overdraft fees on top of robbing you. And the bank probably won't reverse the overdraft fees because at scale they'd likely be reporting the sums to shareholders as real profits.

i would say it's easy to hodl other currency, but i don't really know how bad it will get for greenback chan

Buddy get the memo, we are entering another cold war that could turn hot with China.
The US is basically strongarming the entire developed world to chose sides with these tariffs.
You can be angry and seethe about it (GRRRR ORANGE MAN REEEEEE) or realize what is happening and profit off of it. Either way I don't give a fuck, your insignificant life choices will not affect me. I kinda hope you don't profit off of it, you both seem like shitty people and shitty people should stay broke.

feeling cute, might sell more treasuries
t. xi

Its the petroeuro century incommig anon, do keep up

you are slurping up bait nigga

Anon believe in MAGA Vietnam will remove its restrictions on fucking apples, nuts, and berries and then this will supercharge the economy they will still get a ten percent Tariff

know what you're buying
VIX effectively tracks options activity spikes
ai image generation is truly just democratization of the propaganda apparatus

If we have a countet after 4 years, we're losing the energy race because DUMB NIGGERS in shit holes like West Virginia still think BURNING COAL FOR ELECTRICITY is a way to live. You know the form of nonrenewable energy companies have invested decades into fucking off from because its retardedly expensive

PLEASE THINK OF THE 30 YEAR OLD BLACK LUNG RECIPIENTS

It's the usdebtclock.org
I didn't notice they updated the site with a DOGE counter

LMAO

i would say it's easy to hodl other currency

how do you do this? aren't exchange rate fees a pain

Are your parents interested in adopting some new adult children?

In general, day trading is a terrible strategy for retail investors. I'm not sure it's a better strategy now compared to any other time. But medium/long-term investing seems promising at the moment because stock prices are down.

Consequences of the US taking back the Panama canal?

Not my problem, burger.

What will tesla end at tomorrow?

EU winning bigly?

Wowza

ai image generation is truly just democratization of the propaganda apparatus

It is doing to memes what the Ford assembly line did for automobiles.

i know what you're saying and I agree, but I'm just saying it's not wise to try to profiteer of of the timing of it. What's happening right now is like playing Mahjong and your opponent discards their honor tiles. It tells you something, but not enough to be decisive yet.

doom loop

He republican'd retardedly across the room.

I'm telling you no one wants a war China has only retaliated against you but it's clear you want war with them they will not stop and will not give up until forc comes to shove

beautiful. poetry.

But medium/long-term investing seems promising at the moment because stock prices are down.

Are you kiiding me? A bear market has just started. It won't end until the mid terms at earliest.

consequences of something happening

Don't make me tap the sign

This kills the oil industry.

He niggered murderously across the room.

Constant maintenance headaches.

Nobody is dying in China for MAGA bro

They might use it to deny Chinese shipping as part of the trade war but that'd be retarded.

usdebtclock.org/
you must be new friend.

this guy too, if you started floating after you jumped out of a plane your windspeed would decrease even though your altitude increased.
Think of it like RPMs in a car, you can redline in neutral.

Nothing because Trump just destroyed global trade to own the libs and CHICOMS

EU winning bigly?

Its coming up lederhosen and ode to joy

I don't work for the state bud. I am a little fish in a big ocean. All we can do is react to what is happening around us.
You can stay principled and seethe all you want, I want to make fucking money.

If there is a draft you won't have a choice little zoom-zoom
I ain't your bro either kiddo, I wouldn't even piss on you if you were on fire.

correct, you are getting nuked instead

depends if the nigger jarheads he put in there to guard it can maintain it and operate it

Based globohomo neolib mommy

Oil's been dropping on recession fears. Trump's trying to get oil lower so the fossil fuel industry can experience some of the layoffs, too.

NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT 10 YIELD SHIT. TDS IS BRAIN ROTTING THIS PLACE.

Pretty much nothing. The US let Panama have it because they felt like it, now they're taking it back because they feel like it. There will be some strongly worded letters and some european diplomat will say something about how we're in unprecedented times, then the news cycle will switch to something else in a few days

wir betreten feuertrunken, himmlische, dein heiligtum!

I have around 1k EUR, should I buy crypto or buy more shares?

A bear market has just started. It won't end until the mid terms at earliest.

That might turn out to be true, but how do you know that? How are you able to do this market timing?

Holy fucking cope

I hope Cheetoh Man sees this post, bro.

DEINE ZAUBER BINDER WIEDER DAS DIE MODE STRENG GETREIT

The world is picking neither. Why join a war between two lunatics?

its all that magatards were talking about the entire biden presidency
(bannon, zerohedge, etc..)
you dont get to ignore it now buddy

Mr. Bessent please stop posting here.

S3 Partners, a data firm, said that the vast majority of recent short trades were profitable with 97% of every dollar shorted making a return.

Buy 20x leveraged shorts into indexes

Again, it's cute that you pretend you have a choice.

The S&P mooned 10% because of bond yields. How the fuck can you not care

I'm not buying anything soon, lel
I've been selling in batches ever since August
Not buying anything with this much uncertainty

Is TDS an actual insult from Republicans these days still? It seems like Trump Enslavement Syndrome is more appropriate for those projecting retards

And yes, we do care about the 10 yr yield you fucking moron.

its psychological. ask any investor whats happening and they're all scared and going conservative. thats the defnition of what a bear market is. its possible because of conditions, but inevitable because of emotions.

Based globohomo neolib mommy

Just aryan things. I bet she has to pinch the back of her hadn to stop nher self from screaming about ppurity of European WILL UND BLUD! Ein Europa! Ein Reich, Ein Ursala!

This thread is strong, your thread is weak.

I still don't understand why we can't chill and trade with china like everybody else.

ALLE MENSCHEN WERDEN BRÜDER WO DEIN SANFTER FLÜÜÜÜÜÜGEL WEEEEILT~

It sucks

You should care about the 10Y Yield if you use a credit card

Cultists can't have anyone talk bad about the dear leader.

VIX effectively tracks options activity spikes

And currently it's mostly driven by institutions hedging their bets.

ai image generation is truly just democratization of the propaganda apparatus

Plus, it's proletarianizing independent "artists"

BOBO BROS ?

what's that?

i think we agree on everything then.
i just dont wanna see the bearish people here get fleeced on puts before the real growth potential comes back into the markets.

>A bear market has just started. It won't end until the mid terms at earliest.

That might turn out to be true, but how do you know that? How are you able to do this market timing?

The average length of a bear market is 17 months, longest is 27 its a reasonable probability and it is also the earliest that congress may take Trumos tarrif power away and make teh USA economically valid again

Based retard, SOXL all the way!

look and act pleasantly

don't go full retarrdo

win

It was that simple, I kneel

are you willing to buy at these prices

Could a bigger war actually start popping off if oil prices drop below 50$?
Like, oil prices dropping that much would demolish the russian economy, other than a full on war economy what else could they do to prop their production up?

China already began building beach landing vehicles in autumn 2024. The last I heard it was speculated for 2027, but maybe this trade war will move the schedule up.

I wonder if like some anon said, the NYSE indexes will actually hold up better than either US bonds or the dollar due to being internationalised

LMAO Bobo has been eating good

Europe, the place where God kissed the earth, will become the dominant force in the world once again

youtube.com/watch?v=Jo_-KoBiBG0

Here's to blonde women and genocide.

You know it is actually insane that Tesla only dumped 7% after a 22% pump. If we have a small retrace tomorrow then Tesla is definitely dumping next week.

The US is basically strongarming the entire developed world to chose sides with these tariffs.

And if the EU is now in talks to expand trade and remove EV tariffs with China, whose side are they picking?

but that'd be retarded

So high likelihood of occurring?

ask any investor whats happening and they're all scared and going conservative.

Perhaps that's true of many investors, but definitely not all of them. And anyway, animal spirits can change rapidly. Remember 2020.

everyone has to bend down

she simps for jews even more than trump

the country of europe, 2028

I reckon at the rate we're going, probably like 2 more weeks until we've crossed the Rubicon.

What will be the post-hoc justification when we really are in an undeniable recession?

its 4d chess to control the state like epic hitler and tnd

NAVARRO: YIELDS COMING DOWN IS GREAT NEWS

Good news senior economic advisor is here

OG German version just hits the best.

undeniable recession

we have been in one since 2008. mayhaps longer

um bros who is selling?

brb resuming to my German studies in preparation to working more efficiently with EU partners

me

Summer 2028 at the latest. They'll want the rally-round-the-flag effect in time for the next election.

But they arent
The 10 and 30 haven't stopped climbing

coming down

I mean I GUESS

fucking kek

1. "The numbers are cooked. The crooked deep state wants my administration to fail."
2. "Fake news. My people tell me the economy is very good, the best economy in history."
3. "This will all pass quickly."
4. "Eh, sometimes you just gotta bear it."

im learning danish and its hard to pronounce the words.

Exactly, we can only talk about averages because it's uncertain. You originally expressed certainty that stocks would be in a bear market for at least 19 months — an unjustifiably precise prediction.

Cant they just print money to lower the yields

China and Japan likely China you basically have embargoed them and if Trump goes full retard and has SEC delist them I fully put my money on them causing a massive hacking attack and activating the torjan horses they've planted inside the US power system

For the current situation in the US we might say the following: "Alles hat ein Ende, nur die Wurst hat zwei."

Chinese economy is shutting down and the US is going bankrupt. It actually feels like we're on the edge of the apocalypse.

Yeah dude let's turn on the money printer which is why the yields have been sky high since 2020

print money

Tried that before guess what happened Anon?

These landing vehicles might also be developed to quickly take Taiwan in the case of a defensive war. Cause till now they just want stable growth.

Nothing ever happens

YOU WILL NEVER BE MAD MAX

B-Bull run? Extra golden breadcrumbs?

what's it gonna do tomorrow

Fuck off chink lover

are you guys literally retarded
Yields have to outpace inflation or they aren't worth holding. Inflation up, bond up. Thats why deflation is so horribly bad because your currency explodes and shits and farts and everyone dies

They would have cut interest rates today if trump had stuck to his guns.

the country of europe, 2028

"I found the title of superpower lying in the gutter so I picked it up with my motherly smile and placed it on Europa"
Europafuher Ursala Von der Leyen
-

Viele Nationen
Viele Menschen
Ein Lächeln

Well no, I'm not Australian. I'm in a major US city, so I get the privilege of being vaporized without any prolonged suffering.

The fed doesnt even have anything to say until May

Yes but it also led to inflation plus government debt spiking and a economy being held thogther with nothing

Brother I'M holding your bonds, Americans are not

I know, Scandinavian language is supposedly easy if you know english, but it's a damn lie...
lol

Chinese economy is shutting down and the US is going bankrupt. It actually feels like we're on the edge of the apocalypse.

New European century. A reversion to the norm.

Von Der Lynn

She destoryed the Puma program as long as Women run the EU it will never succeed

Thats why deflation is so horribly bad because your currency explodes and shits and farts and everyone dies

I remember some MAGA posts earlier that deflation is actually based and was the Trump plan all along.

Can Canada join in? We have lots of resources and love diversity.

Well for the consumer it's nice but destroys your government

This, we yuros have complete cucks in charge

How is the chinese economy shutting down
I feel like every year theres a new issue that doesn't amount to much

Demographic collapse
Infrastructure collapse
Economic collapse

Which is it

Holy shit. 10 yr going vertical. Fucking christ tomorrow is gonna be another -5%

The Americans will invade us
Tbf I've seen vids but China is massive so I may see 10 factories shut down but turns out it's nothing

We need coal ash and particulate capture to offset the loss in rare earth metals that a war with China would bring. Our military industry would be completely fucked even in a full rationing economy otherwise.

We have seen what peer and near peer war will be like in the future, and it is grim world war 1 or second sino japanese war fuckery if there's no immediate overmatch and capitulation. You can't bet on it anymore.

No point manufacturing product that you can't sell. They're probably shutting down factories at least temporarily, but that will eventually means layoffs.

dunno if this makes it better or worse for you, but you have a pretty good chance of surviving. currently US heavily outmatches CN in nuclear warheads; has the most capable layered missile defense system; and the most advanced first-strike capabilities.

see, your German ain't all that bad if you got that. and in terms of humor you already have a genetical advantage over us Germans :^)

she also was the one pushing the 800bn. Euro Re-arm Europe act into policy. some here some there.

Can Canada join in? We have lots of resources

YES

love diversity.

How much barbed wire and megaphones do you have in stock?

Look. At. The. 10. Year.

The consumer wont have a job to pay for anything

You bet your entire sum on the index going down while effectively borrowing 20x the amount you buybwith. that's get paid back if the index goes up by by a few percentages over your original bid. Upside bring you do 20x moves on the down so a 5% drop means double your money. Roughly speaking.

Trust me bro, you can't lose.

See how airports are handled these days? Now imagine that but with 10x traffic and more important
Yeah, you're looking at Evergreen events every week.

honestly CA is either going to be the first domino to fall in an US chimpout, or it will be sorely needed by EU due to, as you said, resources. we do lack those.

Holy shit. 10 yr going vertical. Fucking christ tomorrow is gonna be another -5%

Yes and monday for those that missed the selling tomorrow. We are due another 10% drop just to reflect the current tariff costs

Cyberpunk timeline
Eurobucks are world reserve currency
Pacifica Confederation secedes from the US.
Asian influence via foreign investment takes over the West coast
Collapse of rural America due to climate change and water shortage and the establishment of megacities
Cyber mommies

pushing the 800 billion rearm act

As long European MIC can run scams like selling leo2s at 30 million a peice the money is worthless unless they target rebuilding ammo stockpiles burning Ukriane also knowing her she for some reason tie Green subsides to the bill like when she complained the fire extinguisher wasn't econ friendly she also didn't like how pregnant women couldn't drive the Puma ifv so overall I have more faith in the IDF finally destorying the Hams tunnel network then her

Yields have to outpace inflation or they aren't worth holding.

That's not true. Some investors — especially insurance companies, pension funds, and other financial institutions — will hold bonds even if they expect negative real returns. And speculators will buy such bonds to bet on deflation.

no hegemony?

You're just mad your ship is sinking. Good luck working in the factories.

What are you doing for Financial Literacy Month this year, Anon Babble?

rebuilding ammo stockpiles burning Ukriane also knowing her she for some reason tie Green subsides to the bill like when she complained the fire extinguisher wasn't econ friendly she also didn't like how pregnant women couldn't drive the Puma ifv

what did he mean by this

is tomorrow going to be green or red rn i have weekly calls (in the money)

you're right, sorry.
i should have said the price follows inflation tends becasue what i actually said was wrong.

Ironic coming from a Soros banker who pretends to not see the markets everyday

I don't trust her also I would say the EU is better to attack fundamentals also I assume for some reason their is a bonus if a army switches to EV vehicles for logistics

I have a finance degree. It has cost me far more money than the price of tuition. I should have just been a vibes investor.

See how the absence of a murikan or israeli improves the entire composition of the photo.

,,,,,,,,,,,,,................
here's some punctuation put them in your sentences from now on.

army switches to EV vehicles for logistics

Are Euros really this retarded?

financial literacy

Is this good or bad anon?

The 800 billion rearmament act which is continually being cut and has no real finances backing it, as well as no plan forward for actual realized manufacturing for like 5 years at best. Same shit as their shell manufacturing growth and whatever. They'll have a functioning MIC again in 10 years when it won't matter, and be cut immediately afterwards when their welfare state almost detonates trying to keep an expeditionary army around.

So will Peter Navvarro be attending with his made up source or no ?

You know remember the 2022-2023 bear market, where bonds AND stocks dumped hard both in unison, an event that was thought to be basically impossible other than maybe GFC or 1929 times. Something that theoretically shouldn't happen. We're witnessing it happening again just a mere few years after. 2022-2023 already destroyed the conservative Boggleboomer portfolio having its set % of bonds and stocks, now it's about to do the same.

so deflation is actually based

All memes aside, Canada's entire security situation is completely dependent on the US. If it ever even comes to military posturing, let alone actual action, their only move is to completely fold. The recent moves to look assertive and independent are just a domestic political move, they saved the liberals from getting decimated in the election.
Plus they're also betting this is all a bluff and not really taking anything seriously. It's like FONOPs in the northwest passage, they think they can just talk it out despite having no navy because none of this is really serious and nothing ever happens. If/when the US actually goes to war all the polite fictions get shredded very quickly.

Are you saying that soros is bad at being a banker? lol

Germany now has potentially unlimited amounts of money to spend on military and both Merz and Pistorius seem to want to use that to its full extent.

college is good for filtering stuff you DONT want to learn but you still have to figure out all the stuff you DO want to learn on your own either way so dont go to college if you cannot afford it or its a waste of your time DO go to college if you need to move out for four years while you find a wagie job and then end up paying your loans off later

wait they don't have a shipmaking industry yet it'll be there in 90 days, Dear Leader promised

It's very based...if you have lots of cash that hasn't been confiscated by the state, you have lots of tangible physical items you want to buy, and the inventory of said items doesn't run out because production was halted earlier

10 year yield still pumping. Why is it bad for stocks? Is it because it looks like a better investment so people take out their money and put it into bonds?

No i don't mind Soros from a financial standpoint, hes extremely intelligent. Its more a slight at faggot Bessent and his LARP of how he doesnt care if your 401k is fucking negative

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The EU is prepared to deploy its most powerful trade measures and may impose levies on US digital companies if negotiations with Donald Trump fail to end his tariff war against Europe.

European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen told the Financial Times that the EU would seek a “completely balanced” agreement with Washington during Trump’s 90-day pause in applying additional tariffs.

But the Commission president warned she was ready to dramatically expand the transatlantic trade war to services if those talks failed, potentially including a tax on digital advertising revenues that would hit tech groups such as Meta, Google and Facebook.

“We are developing retaliatory measures,” von der Leyen said, explaining these could include the first use of the bloc’s anti-coercion instrument with the power to hit services exports. “There’s a wide range of countermeasures...in case the negotiations are not satisfactory.”

ft.com/content/fba18bd9-46f9-4736-89f3-976afe3abf7a

The usual playbook, "It's because of Canada/Europe/Chyna/Samurais/Penguin Empire". And then stupid ass wars. A History has shown time and time again.
And they will gulp it down like they always do. They're already doing it, gulping down their fabricated opinion. They'll call you a NPC, by btw.

+ somehow magically you time your purchases perfectly where your cash has the most value and everybody else is still waiting on their purchasing power increasing

Navarro, Retardo and Ron Nava are all three different guys, dumbass

ukraine is very rich in resources, that's why the US wants them, and that's why Europe must not let the US get them

I would be a lot wealthier if I just got an engineering degree. I dismissed a ton of meme investment because of fundamentals, but we live in a meme economy. I had the chance to mine bitcoin back when it was worth cents. I would have invested in all sorts of meme garbage like tesla if I wasn't held back by my finance knowledge.

files.catbox.moe/abqrhj.mp4
I think its gonna be green tomorrow

it's gonna get spicy for sure, even more spicy if they get rid of the last sane man on board, jpow

Have you ever seen Navarro, Ron Nava and Retarrdo in the same room together? I thought so.

higher yield means the US govt has to offer higher interest because people are selling or not willing to buy, decreased purchases of US debt is usually correlated with decreased investment in US companies

BYD 7th highest gainer on the market today. All American tech stocks down. Am I a genius?

You do know that yield curves and bond prices are inversed, right? Investors are removing money from the US bond market

I’m Swedish and yes we are

really makes you think

Yes. And this is also happening as they drop tariffs on BYD and kill their EV manufacturing. They also killed their launch market over green deorbit shit on the second stage of the ariane 6, that doesn't work, and despite them having an equatorial launch site right on the coast.

Europoors are impoverished because they live in a fantasy. It's not in money, but ideas and actually carrying them out.

i thought you used toyotas as your military vehicles over there

excellent trade analysis

Say Jpow does get the boot and Trump activates the 0% rate infinite money glitch. What is the best play, buy euro/dollar since the dollar is about to become a banana currency?

LMAOOO which one has the best Plan™ going forward?

Europoors are impoverished

if you say so

I bought in as well, almost as a revenge trade because I was sick of Trump's bullshit. Also expecting stimulus though.

Can we even be sure this supposed “”Navarro”” person is real?

Why is it bad for stocks?

Lending more expensive = less profit = lower value
Also,

usually T-bills are a safe haven

but the yield is only rising

because the underlying asset is decreasing in value

So that means everything is getting dumped, and that's a bad sign for financials, especially hedgefunds overleveraged on treasuries.

10 year yield still pumping. Why is it bad for stocks? Is it because it looks like a better investment so people take out their money and put it into bonds?

It means people are selling bonds aon. They are selling US bonds (how the US givernment borrows money) because they do not think US bonds are good anymore because the USA does not appear well governed and Donald Trump is being allowed exercise power unilaterally without moderation from congress ,senate, judicary or the executive branch. He appears incompetent because he held up a board that conflated balance of trade and tariffs in front of the world and made a fool of himself Why would nations who have had tariffs paced on themlend money to the USA. Think hard. The US dolalr is in trouble, the US national debt is in trouble and ten trillion of it has to be refinanced this year. Do you think China or the EU will lend the US money while the USA is putting tariffs on them?

I'm just sticking with the simple reality because maga generally can't keep up with how badly they have destroyed the USA.

line gonna be green tomorrow because i said so

Buy bitcoin

i'm glad the majority of Americans will never take us serious until we have built up enough militarily to deter the US.

dystopian but kino. cyber mommies alone would make it worthwhile though.

The 800 billion rearmament act which is continually being cut

nope, it passed. the money is through.

and has no real finances backing it

the EU economy isn't real?

as well as no plan forward for actual realized manufacturing for like 5 years at best.

plenty of hardware has already been acquired, factories are being built and expanded. EU is already in the process of re-arming. right now, not five years.

Same shit as their shell manufacturing growth and whatever

EU is currently supplying more shells than US to Ukraine.

Germany separately has deactivated the debt brake specifically to pump 900 billion Euros into defence and needed infrastructure. with the 200 billion from the previous years this makes a nifty ~1 trillion euros. we have been chronically under-spending so our economy can eat it (and NEEDS TO for fucks sake, the debt brake is retardation in its current form -- this will be great for our economy).

Canada can't stand up to the US militarily for sure, I agree.

as it's going, i can't see Ukraine entrusting themselves to the mercurial whims of the US. concessions like negotiating mineral deal and peace deals are at least as much stalling as actual will.

yeah I guess, invest in euros and ammos cause it's about to party

I think its gonna be green tomorrow

If it is green tomorrow (iunlikley) it will be down 7-12% onn moday. Less painfull to spread the selloff over a couple of days and then have another little suckers rally

As an american, honestly same. It's terrifying how skewed our military power to intelligence ratio is.

Did something happen? This thread has been incredibly civil and insightful compared to previous ones.

the debt brake is retardation in its current form

I think the current version is good enough. It allows for an one-time payment for the military and infrastructure but also permits high military spendings in the future without giving way for left wing social debts.

The market closed and most people left

Did something happen?

Tourists fucked off again when the (You)s weren't juicy enough

Did something happen? This thread has been incredibly civil and insightful compared to previous ones.

A cosensus has emerged and the maga spammers left.

Potentially unlimited amounts of money to spend on the military

requiring entirely private investment to finance still after unhooking it from their debt

I'm sure they'll focus on decoupling their orbital market from the US, being able to build Leopard 2 hulls again, and being able to build artillery, just as long as they do it by building an environmentally friendly time machine. That would be quicker and cheaper than rebuilding their ability from scratch while major finance and relevant material is in the hands of those they wish to decouple from.

normies think it's over and market is closed so degenerates are sniffing fent to offset the meth

Yuro tourists are going to bed.
Real American Hours start now.

Their market of ideas has been in the red since the late 90s. Please do read the entire post.

Ariane 6 worked you dub fucking nigger. And it worked well. On its second maiden flight, they placed a French military satellite in orbit, all while playing with the second stage do do its 3 re-ignitions, as it's designed to do to place 3 satellites on 3 different orbits in a single launch. Ironically enough, it happened just when Trump raised the white flag and cut off intel sharing to Ukraine, with said satellite's use being redirected towards them.

You guys remember SOUNnigger?
Did he go to jail?
SOUN has dumped hard lol

After hours smg is unironically comfy

we've just been chronically under-spending, there's a lack of stimulus to develop the economy. i think it's good policy in principle but needs reformation. running on half-austerity all the time is just retarded, we should be able to spend if it makes sense from a market perspective.

youtube.com/watch?v=fKJDAVvs_JA

I dont want a bear market...most of my imagen are bulls

Lines.
Hold em.

since cyberpunk has been mapping onto reality lately, investing into biofuel might be the play. if international supply is disrupted short term energy generation becomes an extremely valuable asset and biofuel requires less supply chain interconnectedness than solar or nuclear or wind.

Real American Hours start now.

Let the owning the libs commence and may much shit be flung randomly in capital letters and many decarations about who needs moey and what ia an economy and why should a true patriot care about such things when they make their own maga tesla engine parts from real American wood

ASMB stock ladies

Dubs
Check em

people are dumping both stocks and bonds, that’s the problem

biofuel

Based Yarvinist

US Shale in particular becomes unprofitable at the current price ranges.

plenty of hardware has already been acquired, factories are being built and expanded. EU is already in the process of re-arming. right now, not five years

Yeah, you will just spawn factories now just like we will because of the tariffs. Are you mentally deficient or just european? Even rheinmetall isn't claiming they are spawning industry from the void. 1 million shells per year coming 2027 at the earliest, and the other industries you melted the tooling down for will just unmelt.

bro is just saying shit

hydrogen might be even better than biofuel and only requires electricity and water to make

Tourist here. How did you guys do during all this? Did you manage to make money out of this shitshow?
Just curious.

Totally, he's a financial genius with a 13 inch cock

Bring back the other girl

fucking kek

buy GEVO, longer term look into algae stocks (not just for biofuel either, lots of shit can be done with algae and wastewater).

people are dumping both stocks and bonds, that’s the problem

dollar denominated assets are no good here anymore friend. You can't have areserve currency and apply tariffs at the same time you see.

Around what value is the tipping point of yields, after which it becomes unsustanable? 5%?

Managed to take no loss and get out of the dollar asssets made a bit on gold etfs but nothing major.

ASMB STOCK BHENCHODS

I did nothing

i mean, i definitely think hydrogen has the potential to offset petrol as a compustion source for things like ships and airplanes but at the end of the day

takes electricity

hydrogen doesnt actually create energy it just stores it, while biofuel is basically scuffed solar that harnesses and stores in one go. you're going to have to use another energy source to generate hydrogen tit for tat. Perhaps strategically building hydrogen plants in the desert and not needing to rely on wire power loss IS the more likely future than ion batteries, but that just offsets the problem into solar production by one degree

It's already unsustainable but there's a difference between "this is a problem for the next president" and "oh my god"

No, I sold everything and am giddily awaiting the Multipolar World

seeing this graph is what really fucks with me. and now if the US economy tanks and there's appetite for a quick win and a need to get money, as well as the largest military might in the world..... fuck, this is exactly the kind of scenario empires get nasty in. we've seen it plenty of times here on this continent.

just let our tanks eat enemy combatants. it's green!!

which is why we have 400 bln. Euro earmarked for the infrastructure needed. and we're retooling car factories for example. of course it will still take up to a decade to become strategically as independent as we like. denying that would be stupid. but it would be even more retarded to just not do it because it takes time. so i'm not sure what your point is? "it takes time" no shit it does. luckily you yanks aren't trying to fuck with us militarily yet.

just got paypaled 40 dollars from a facebook data lawsuit

Is this bullish

there's no time like the present
who the hell knows
you can calculate the interest the US will have to pay really easily, but the question is when will people stop buying US debt to pay off US debt. That's a matter of psychology and not hard facts.

what I meant is that making hydrogen requires just water and electricity. Then to turn it back into electricity, you just need oxygen (from the atmosphere). The electricity to make hydrogen can come from solar panels. This way you have a high energy fuel than doesn't require vast extensions of crops to make, unlike biofuel.
I think to make biofuel you need fermentation plants anyways, so might as well go with the cleaner and more efficient fuel.

just let our tanks eat enemy combatants

Nuclear power plants, problem solved. By I can only see hydrogen being used for transportation when it comes to planes and ships. In cars it's suicide, every car basically is a bomb. In the hands of retards barely able to drive.

China has only retaliated against you

America forced technology transfers, banned Chinese businesses, and committed endless industrial and technological espionage against China for decades?

Bonglands 30Y are 5.4, which is a big problem but not catastrophic

Around what value is the tipping point of yields, after which it becomes unsustanable? 5%?

Well you see the fed does not actually set interest rates, the bond markets do. Imagine if US interest rates rise agin. What happens to stock markets when interest vrates rise? Here's the fun bit you ALSO get inflation from tariffs and all those dollars that were locked into international trade that revert because trade volumes fall.

TLDR Maga has fistfucked Americas economy and its about to pass out and choke on its own puke while the president says he inteded to do that all along. So no one wants to lend America money any more.

Pretty sure there's cars with hydrogen already, seems safe?

Ironically enough, it happened just when Trump raised the white flag and cut off intel sharing to Ukraine

I hope it's also flying all of our early warning radars and rivetjoints along the border too. We didn't cut off shit, and one satellite wouldn't cut it. We launched more than a dozen of yours in the last 2 years.

it worked flawlessly

After being delayed for years because it didn't work, and then failing first time around. In the meantime, ariane 6 payloads went to spacex, and your launch market is effectively dead. It's now too expensive, too unproven, and incapable of the cadence necessary for your continents own needs for just military payload, much less everything else. Inbetween the first and second launch, spacex sent nearly 100 to orbit with 6 boosters.

seeing this graph is what really fucks with me. and now if the US economy tanks and there's appetite for a quick win and a need to get money, as well as the largest military might in the world..... fuck, this is exactly the kind of scenario empires get nasty in. we've seen it plenty of times here on this continent.

yep let's hope they just chimp out between themselves and do a remake of Civil War while we stay comfy

Quick question how are Euro and UK Bonds looking anons?

yeah. im saying the same thing. I'm just saying 83% of polysilicon is produced in china, and a lot of rare earth metals we can only get there. I don't know if the SRAS on solar materials is reliable compared to biofuel. But at this point in time I would really love to hear what energy experts are thinking about the market.
The problem is distance from the plants. You have to build a lot of small nuclear plants to get that system off the ground which we dont really dont have an economy geared for now. I've been deep into nuclear and made my bags with 20% in it but i dont want crazy exposure, especially because sourcing fuel becomes a serious political issue when the world is warry

i hope so too.

Bongs are fucked at 5.4 for 30Y, frogs and krauts are looking popular and improving

we have rare eath elements around europe too but the cost of extraction is way higher than those in china so there has been no interest nor effort put into it. Ukraine has trillions in rare earth minerals, spain has plenty too. Many geosurveys are very outdated too, some by decades, I'm sure that if people surveyed europe again, now looking for the minerals we need today, we would find many sites. But for now, getting them from china is cheaper

hydrogen is a scam because you can't store it long-term.
at that point just invest into algae biofuels or co2 -> methanol processes because you won't have to worry about hydrogen leaks; with algae you can get tons of stuff out of it as well.
probably by 2030 as secession movements gain traction.

Arent futures supposed to be open by now?

but we wont be able to get mines and factories running in the next few years just because we want them to. if we get a based and efficient bueraucracy hard pushing energy theres a chance but thats a lot of faith

the markets over, we gave up

at that point just invest into algae biofuels or co2 -> methanol processes because you won't have to worry about hydrogen leaks; with algae you can get tons of stuff out of it as well.

thats what i initially suggested
algae has the potential to fix the air fuel crisis and offset potential in a world with low exports.

Nothing was forced. Companies did it willingly as a condition of investing in China. And businesses were not banned as long as they obeyed the law.

we can rely on china meanwhile, we have good relations with them. And if that fails, Brazil has the worlds second biggest reserves of rare earths too.

In exchange for dropping tariffs, jav will be fully uncensored and soap land will open up locations in the United States.

5D chess

So when investors sell Treasury Bonds before the due date runs out on them, are they selling them back to the US Treasury for their current market value, or selling them on the market to other investors?

those are yuros. donald despises them; he wants beautiful manly 15% like daddy vladimir.

Look at the axis, retard.

I'm thinking China is buying Eurobonds

extrapolate into the future, retard.

I think everyone is honestly

Trumps calling Xi next week

they are selling them to other investors on the secondary market. Treasury also sells their bonds on the primary market so they have to increase the rate for the newly issued bonds to be competitive with the secondary market which now has lower prices due to increased supply. (not an expert in the area, this is what I grasped from other retards over the last few days)

VIX already back at 40

lol
lmao

extrapolate

t. professional investor

Btw, I like how it says "unfriendly OR an enemy". It also doesn't say desire to invade. Imagine getting psyopped so hard.

are the majority of us doing leveraged or unleveraged ETFs rather than individual stocks? the only actual stock I have left are two TSM shares because the dividend drops today and I want my $1.07, and 102 shares of SMGTY because of the SMA Solar anon

NO FUCKING WAY HAHAHA

boo, thats linear, we need exponential

I only do unleveraged stocks and ETF becasuse I'm a coward

I knew it was a bad idea to hire vampires to handle trade.

I buy stocks for long term holds, ETFs when I want to go short, it all drops together anyways.

new

The idea they smartened up is unfathomable to you?

youtube.com/watch?v=2FDNQWnLx6g

having a small amount allocated for gambling is fun.

Tbf that was because the plan was actually retarded

gambling in a casino roulette would be more entertaining than in this clown market

Tits or gtfo

Yeah that's why i'm convinced Trump is trying to recreate the conditions of Hitler's rise to power. He needs a good economic crisis to really spark up the hypernationalism. Problem is he jumped the gun on the kristallnacht shit and started doing that early.

i don't think he's that clever. i think he's sleep-walking into it. (which i see as worse -- less predictable, possibility he makes similar mistakes RE: setting fire to the world.)