Let the fun begin

Normies are stupid as fuck and I wouldn't trust 9/10 random people on the street to have anything going on in their head worth knowing.

YOUR TEAM DOES IT BUT NOT MINE

God brainlets are so tiring

elon bought it and according to an x post he replied to it seems his plan is to add it to X within the app as a separate tab/icon

36 hours

the countdown has finally begun

We just wanted to be left alone

you mean 3 hours

Believe it or not high level academia does have a pretty good idea of what's going on and is documenting and analysing this historical moment as we live through it
But no one cares what they think anymore, after all they're only qualified experts

Unbelievably, but the 6 second limit for Vine was a good idea.

104%

Why not just implement a full fledged trade embargo at this point?

I think that'd be like war or something.

too quick even for a chinks standards , xi gotta act slightly tougher than that to save face so 36 hours are perfect not too chicken but not too
suicidally retarded either

My team didn't crash the economy for no reason, and until they do something similar, both sides are not the same

There will be a group of people that think Trump's official mugshot is political propaganda cooked up by partisan historians

your team literally put the us into a recession and changed definitions so they could pretend they didn't so sit this one out

tfw bought yang before close

oh yeah.

how much of online "discourse" is fake or manipulated

The manipulation exists but it can't do much if the will isn't there. Sorry anon, humaniggers are just THIS retarded. You, me, and everyone else.

the entry will just be

Socrates was right, the people are too stupid for democracy

That's what I want to know. At some point tariffs reach the point where you effectively have just banned trade with that country, and if that's his fucking goal then just do it.

Last I checked we've had Cuba embargoed for 60 years despite never being at war with them.

Trump is a retard who somehow always gets his way.

He thought Xi would fold, and now it's gonna take massive economic consequences for him to realize how retarded he's been.

Pretty sure that was Aristotle, unless that's the joke

Nah, I was on-board with alot of trump stuff

Deport illegals

restore law and order

take troon programming out of schools

DOGE

But Starting a massive global trade war isn't something I will support. If he ruins everything he's gained for conservatives, it will be because of this singular issue.

Because it just a bluff, US literally imports all of their raw material from China, they would be fucked first if it's a full embargo

Historians won't exist by around 2060, civilization will have collapsed.

208% BY TOMORROW MORNING.

You don't know the first thing about economics kid, back to your safe space

He has been saying he will do this since his first term. It only took 3 assassination attempts and a massive lawfare campaign to make him go cross the rubicon.

ah yes the mighty cuban army

Yeah, a huge chunk of humanity is genuinely retarded which is why the manipulation can work. But that's always been the case. But the fact that there are new tools available for manipulating them in new ways makes a big difference.

Typically with bluffs you don't actually let the rate go into effect. Pretty sure he's using China as an example to other nations to make a deal with him or else because he is willing to totally destroy trade with any country for real. He does not care.

It isn't a bluff if you actually do it retard.

Why don't he just put an embargo on china then?

Tariffs will be passed on as much as possible, just as corporate taxes, sales taxes, income taxes and payroll taxes are passed through as much as possible. Key words there: as much as possible. In a market with elasticity SOME of any tax will come from pinched margins, and in the case of tariffs some of the cost will also be eaten by foreign debasement.

Over 80% of fed gov tax revenue comes from taxes on labor producers (income, payroll taxes), whose margins are currently being squeezed? Workers.

Keeping total tax burden fixed, explain your opposition to normalizing tax rates such that domestic labor producers are no longer at such a steep tax disadvantage.

It doesn't do anything, China was already unable to export to the US with the previous tariff. Might as well put the number at infinity +1 and call it a day.

So…does Trump think he’s punishing China?

if theres no plan why is everyone quiet?

It’s not just a matter of tariffs being passed through. There are a lot of US businesses with contracts with Chinese manufacturers/production facilities that are rigid. You can’t just make changes or cancel. It will cause many of these businesses to fail.

In a sense he is because he's making it so hard to import Chinese goods that China loses out on a ton of revenue

This is why top down policy from one man should not be allowed. Tariffs should be as they were the purview of congress only.

Plato’s point was not people are “too stupid for democracy” it was that democracy selects for those skilled in winning elections and that skill rationally has no inherent overlap with ability to rule

hes not making it hard, hes making it expensive, and american companies will move the price to the consumer as there literally is no alternative suppliers for a lot of the goods

buckle up, buttercup and dont forget to thank your local maga cultist for the price hike ;)

And themselves too because almost all of US goods are make in China and moving an entire supply chain is going to take longer than a year or two.

What major goods will be affected?

We're talking about Socrates, not Plato.
They are two separate individuals with drastically different approaches.

I predict prices of basic essentials will rise drastically in approximately two weeks

hes not making it hard, hes making it expensive, and american companies will move the price to the consumer as there literally is no alternative suppliers for a lot of the goods

Sure but eventually it becomes so expensive that it's not worth importing at all.

banger factory pumps out another one

Food is made in China? Electronics and clothes, sure, but food?

Your side couldn’t beat Donald fucking trump. Twice. Hey good job running Biden till two minutes before the election then blaming “racism” for not getting Kamala elected. Way to go on Bernie too. You people can’t stop winning, which is probably why you’re obsessed with saying that to republicans.

And here you are still spreading easily disproved lies and fear mongering. The economy is crashed? Lmao. Two more weeks amirite?

I would love to vote for a Democrat but you people are all fucking insane and blame everyone else for your incompetence. You seem honestly perplexed that calling people nazis because they don’t want open borders doesn’t get them to vote for you. You just keep doubling down after every time you get your shit pushed in too.
Oh look, here’s another one.

You honestly better hope these tariffs go seriously south. Massive risk for the republicans but if it doesn’t got completely to shit, you’re gonna be even more miserable than you are now (if that’s even possible) come midterms and in 2029.

Some businesses have no choice. There is nowhere else to commission the product other than China. They will basically fold and close up shop.

US literally imports 60% of their seafoods from other countries

Americans are notorious for their heavy consumption of seafood, especially poor Americans. And I predict the prices of seafood will increase by 200% in roughly 1 fortnight

That's seafood. I don't eat that. I'm talking like bread, cheeseburgers, pizza, etc.

2 weeks to flatten manufacturing and raw materials back to the US. Then they can drop tariffs.

Awesome, more American fisheries are inevitable.

You have to be a wizard to move all of factories back to US within two weeks

Are you so young you don't even remember Covid memes?

bullish for indoor shrimp farming

I'm working at hospital, so i don't really have a time to looking at the internet during covid

moving an entire supply chain is going to take longer than a year or two

and 99% of us businesses won't survive that long

rigid contracts

They prohibit importers from raising prices? Please.

businesses will fail

And? Normalizing tax rates increases the efficiency of the economy and greatly benefits American workers given the ridiculously unequal taxation they faced

Why are you linking Xitskin posts and calling it a "banger factory"?

deepseek really likes that phrase

We shouldn't be at all, China is literally raping the sea to the point that the fish in the world may drop to unrecoverable levels.

That's funny. There's dozens of tiktok videos from hospital workers dancing during covid.

Incorrect. You are referencing Socrates the character from Plato’s republic, specifically his Ship of Fools analogy. No texts of Socrates the man survives

I'm pretty sure Socrates was just Plato's self-insert in that book. Reads too much like a plebbitor "I totally showed that guy" story for my liking.

Even military have a dancing tiktok video and leaking their super secret intel in process. It can happen to any profession.

He campaigned on lowering the cost of living, and he's about to do the exact opposite.

left: country that went completly apeshit because a cop kneeled on a black man and is still seething about wearing muh masks during the coof

right: literally bolted their people inside their house without major disruptions and continues to grow and surpass the west in everything they develop

I know who I'm betting on

thats going to kill it lmao zoomers hate elon

really?
'The American elite drove the working class into poverty, the working class reacted angrily & irrationally'

There, explained.

Why the fuck is he so autistically obsessed with mashing the tariff button as his answer to absolutely everything?

It's "china china china"
The whole tariff thing is a decoupling from China, which he attempted in his first term.
Now we have re-elected him to FINISH THE JOB.
And that's why this site and board are lousy with Chinamen right now.
They are zerg rushing us

All this feels like a poker game where every player is calling the bluff, the difference here is that they are gambling your money