Elon is laundering his opinions through his brother now, this administration clown show just keeps delivering the lulz

Elon is laundering his opinions through his brother now, this administration clown show just keeps delivering the lulz

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Elon has a brother?

The whole narrative around lowering the rates to roll over the debt -- the Fed and the Treasury are monopolies. There is no actual market mechanism here, even if they give the appearance of one.

The US doesn't need to sell bonds as a technical requirement, either. There are legal mechanisms that require this, but it's not functionally necessary.

Elon seems to be panicking a bit, his Shanghai plant could end up nationalized by the end of the week.

But what does Elon's toddler larp account say?

A brother who allegedly made some orders off Epstein’s secret menu.

navarro went to prison for trump. kimball went to epstein island for children.

Useless Boer wants off JDPON Don’s wild ride

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Elon and Kimbal have convinced me there is no grand strategy at work here. Trump really is all in on this for the reasons stated. There's no 4d chess. If there were there's be unity in messaging.

There's no 4d chess.

There never was. Trump just does random things then takes credit when something seems to work in his favor on accident.

Nah tesla sales have been trending down in china for a while.

Elon is not part of Trump's advisers. He just helping with DOGE. He has no sway over Trump.

Wait so is the treasury refinance thing real? How is this an America only problem when the whole world borrowed like crazy during covid?

lol yeah just don't honor contracts and it'll work out

It's like when bitcoin crashes all the alts crash harder

If inflation continues and they can't lower rates the world reserve currency defaults.
All the international trade is tied to this not blowing up.
Sure people would like to trade outside USD, but then they get bombed or sanctioned.

So they're walking a tightrope WWIII could break out this year lmao

It's not an America only problem, but other countries don't want to give America a good deal.

We'll see what happens.

If you don't produce and sell anything and have a service only economy then where do you get the money from..? Exactly..debt. Europe still sells. America doesn't..one reason is that they are blocked by the EU to sell

No, they have to honor the bonds they have already sold. And there is still a legal mechanism that requires them to sell bonds to "cover" deficits. I am saying that this process of selling bonds doesn't need to happen and also that the Fed and Treasury can set their respective rates wherever they want them.

So why didn't Trump agree to Zero for Zero tariffs?

Doesn't that change everything though?

Everyone will be maneuvering once they don't honor the contract.

nah, china pulling russia shit like that will signal alarm for other countries invested in china as well and destabilize their credibility. Elon is mostly scared of his losing political influence. Trump isn't listening to him, his close aides in dc aren't listening to him, no one cares about him. Who knew that just fucking ignoring him was the solution.

What are you on about? European economy is a lot more services-based than America.

US mostly buys stuff from Europe, Europe mostly buys services from the US.

Where the hell did you get that idea?

Wrong and Europe hasn't decided to close itself off from the rest of the world and continue trading.

In in Europe and whatever you buy from the US will be held in customs, checked and labelled with taxes and problems, delays. If I buy something from china it will be transported by the national postage service to my hands without ANY extra taxes on it. Tarrifs are just one part of it and trump boiled it down to tarrifs as this is easy to understand and also apply in retaliation. He doesn't want to implement the same regulations, rules and bureocracy that works on stopping products flowing into the EU. If EU puts zero tarrifs on US chicken you still can't import it here cause its not allowed for some good rules (for good reasons or not but you get point)

What do you mean "not honoring the contract"? I am saying they have to pay out existing bond holders. They agreed to pay them, and the government can always afford to pay the interest on bonds because it issues the money. I am saying there is no functional necessity to actually sell bonds to "cover" a deficit. It was already covered when they credited the account, like all government spending. The government is a currency issuer, not a currency user. It does not need to acquire deposits before it can spend. It has to spend first because it is the origin point for currency to begin with.

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nerds getting bullied by chads, we don't give a fuck, eat shit dweeb.

No, we are completely based on exporting. Check Germany. It goes down(China) but that's how we earn. Building machines and selling them. Automobile jobs alone keep this country going.

Why do Economics students always bully the STEM nerds and steal the girls?

No it’s not lmao, people will need to dump treasuries to cover their own dollar deficits.

DAE hate money and business? I am so angry right now and always about the news and especially Elon and whatever else they tell me to be angry about
Hurpa durpa latest thing bad

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my position is simply the opposite of this

doesn't make you any better you midwit

China le smart

Yes the same country who destroyed its own booming economy by self-imposed lockdowns for three years over a cough is "smart".

Places like Andorra, Malta, Luxembourg, sure. Other than that, just incorrect.
If you're looking by pure export volume, you have to remember that EU exports in general are much larger than US exports and intra-EU service exports are often included in those figures.

the entire point is being fed ragebait so you can feel like a hopeless victim

wants to be MIGA chud #1

folds the moment he can’t profit off globalism

How many more weeks till china collapses

nothing is wrong with China unless it looks like a post-apocalyptic wasteland, ignore any and all criticisms otherwise

the 4d chess here is Comrade Trump will make Red Capitalism greater than ever

does random thing

No he does specific things.
He wants to cancel or destroy anything Obama or Biden did because they laughed at him and no one that mattered believed his truther shit.
He does whatever he thinks will personally enrich him(sell out to russia for example)
He also really, really likes Andrew Jackson and Jackson was a retard, so he's just copying half his ideas.
Everything else is hedging his bets by saying whatever shit he thinks the crowd will like, which is where the schizo babble comes from

Epstein gave Kimbal his own girlfriend at the time, who was herself a spook, in order to get closer to Elon.

"things that make you say HMMM"

btw Kimbal is doing one of the only cool things with Web3, called Big Green DAO, where he works with community gardens and urban farms and supports them using blockchain and Web3 shit. and iirc he's big into local food stuff. so at least part of the Tesla scam money is flowing towards something good.

Yah he was close to Epstein

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