/smg/ - Stock Market General

It gets 1 Pinocchio, It's slightly misleading, while the statement is true prices will increase in Europe but its mostly due to the standard inflation bullshit and not anything Trump did.

I got 151 dollars of buying power. Which penny stock should i gamble on?

FUCK that was ezy money - thanks Trump. Im going to make enough to be poor after all.

I got 151 dollars of buying power. Which penny stock should i gamble on?

none of them, because they are all garbage
it's pump and dump schemes, followed by insane stock splits, over and over
If you really do want to buy a penny stock, look at its price history. Check and see if they've been stock splitting into oblivion, just to make sure it's not an obvious scam

I got 151 dollars of buying power

Buy 105 shares of KULR and dump it after earnings later this week, its already moving in anticipation. Or dump it just before earnings if you are not sure.

sell

We buying eToro ipo tomorrow?

$DAVE

whens the next red day? october? 2027?

why

Crude, Crypto, & Mega-Caps Soar On CPI, Saudis, & A Giant Short-Squeeze

archive.md/ULLGb

Which penny stock should i gamble on?

ignore my KULR comment, I think I tarded out on the earnings date, never mind

where is GOOG heading
be honest

To the shadow realm

$222

Bought 1 MSTR out for tomorrow.
Bought 1 TSLA put for tomorrow.

Hoping I can sell tomorrow market open. I can’t believe it’s literally this easy.

Start a trade war, especially focus on chyna

Pretty much lash out on everyone, even your own allies

End up with one "deal" that is useless because no-one wants to buy your goods because you lashed out in the beginning

Have to "pause" tariffs for a "deal" which does not address the original problem of trade imbalance, just resets tariffs

Trade imbalance will most likely grow even more now

Somehow stock market is green again

Like nothing has changed, if anything it has gotten worse now. Q1 trade imbalance grew even.

I just made 1,500$ today all realized gains.

Inb4 muh taxes

Under the threshold bitch, they're not taking shit.

Saudi’s signed a 600 billion dollar deal with U.S.

Trump is a smart man.
Long term stock market looks healthy but ofcourse short term when stocks pumps it’s smart to make money on the pullbacks when possible.

If Trump jerked off onto my face I wouldn’t fight it.

If he pumped my ass I wouldn’t say stop.

This is what it means to be on the winning side. Just ask zelensky.

That cropping

I didn't know Bessent actually posted here boss.

Does the market really think we are in a better position than we were at the start of the year when it was pricing in multiple rate cuts and none of this reciprocal tariff nonsense?

Yes, the market is so much better now. If we get shit job numbers, we get to price in rate cuts boss.

wizard of WallStreet over here. half the monthly mortgage payment is on you next month boss.

the market is composed of people, the average person is a dumbfuck like you and me

time in market is the most important thing by far so yes.

As long as the money printer is running the market will pump hard and fast. Trump said it himself “we’re gonna go higher” and I believe it. He’s said it 3 times and it’s gone up on all occasions.

Fuck I love Trump so much.
Easiest money I ever made.
I pay young black men to kick the shit out of me for 2 minutes once a week.

It feels good and gets the blood flowing.

Literally proved my point, none of these deals actually solve the underlying problem (atleast as Trump has laid it forward) of trade imbalance and lack of US manufacturing. Most of these deals are incredibly vague and probably will just fade into obscurity in a sea of corruption.

Does the market really think

the "market" is part of national security complex and fully controlled.

So you admit you’re a globalist?

top kek

now i am really regretting not being soxl tranny. What is the next 2 bagger?

soxl

I wonder what tomorrow will bring for 0dtechads

I assumed we were all globalists here, I'm hoping if I stack enough Blackrock shares they'll take me in

t SocialDemocrat97

Intraday 0dtes

I dont believe that a single person is profitable on these. The moves are almost completely random and you get raped by theta. I can understand playing for MOC or something but not intraday.
Lower win chance than actual roulette

youtube.com/watch?v=wx6_MWVHZ4g

I had a couple good ones these last couple days tbdesu

Soon the house edge will catch up
Prove me wrong

The conversations on Anon Babble this ween remind me of summer 2020 when a bunch of delusional bobos still thought the market would dump further because Covid didn’t go away. I remember it well because it was one of those retards and lost a lot of money.

tldr don’t hide just buy

atleast as Trump has laid it forward

most people agree that what he laid forward was retarded though

socksl

What about be fearful when others are greedy?

Sold some UNH 250P 2027, I dare them to assign me :)

The house earns money on the spreads. They dont take unhedged positions.
The moment that retard buys/writes his 0dte options, the house has earned their profit.

Yeah but he might come back again in half a year and say tariffs are back on the menu when the "deals" are ineffective.

In my eyes the house is theta/option writers.

Sure, maybe I'll get trapped on the wrong side of my trade eventually, but it hasn't happened yet

What part of

buy every dip

Don’t you understand

Eggs are down 10% of course the economy is better

Companies copying MSTR strategy of buying BTC as a treasury to pump the stock

This isn't going to end well and will be the hallmark of a speculative bubble popping and crashing the whole market

Doesn’t work well on crab days. But, when there is a lot of volatility, it’s easy to predict movements. Have I been wrong? Yes, but I personally feel safer doing 0dte’s than I do putting money into stocks.
Yesterday was +32%
Today was +10% and that was only because I got caught in a meeting. I would have been +50% today if that wasn’t the case.

option writers

This is the way

Which movie is this shot from? Goodfellas?

Funny I had SPY puts waiting for a nice downturn but had to sell them for a 4% profit after SPY refused to come down, and then I see SPY crattered literally in the last 5 minutes and I could've walked with a +35% instead if I held
A 0DTE put I was looking into went from 30 cents to $1.20 at close too FUCK

He just wants to feel important doing le deals like le business man. They meet him and tell him something about his nice hair and tan in Simple English so he can sell le deal to his mouth breather base

With no survivors!

And that pumps soxl +20% everytime

Debating whether or not to open a robinhood gold account, put the minimum in to get the 1k interest free margin and also get the roth 3% match. What are the chances they pull some faggotry and I regret not just staying with vanguard

They crashed it too fast for anyone to buy puts right when everyone finally sold theirs/bought in. Tomorrow is going to be open to a bloodbath.

Green is arguably the best fitting outfit for every commendable lady and gentleman.

Tomorrow is going to be open to a bloodbath.

Why?

Which movie is this shot from?

Easy Money 1983
my favorite scene
youtube.com/watch?v=1fjTgX9jujQ

soundtrack -Easy Money by Billy Joel
youtube.com/watch?v=lY5c1HkHiZ4

I am gambling on stonks for the easy money

Coinbase now in S&P500

How is this shit not being called out by anyone?

does vangaurd let you trade options? I just have a boring ol account with them.

And Coinbase is bigger than the nasdaq company.

Just a coping 1pidger

Bitcoin has larger market cap than google.
Im sure that is totally normal.

POET
earnings *actually* in 7 days
due to announce 4500% revenue increase yoy cos they just settled a $25m
public offering at $5/share (+14% premium).

i might actually hold a bit longer if it keeps pumping.
has never had a split, however it will probably dump if it pumps earnings
in any case, it will definitely p&d a few times before it goes anywhere
*if* it goes anywhere

How is that the house? You know you can just do that yourself, right?

Like I get that fraud exists because people are scummy and greedy, but I don't get why everyone is treating it as normal. It's clear (or should be clear) to everyone that crypto has no real uses and solves no problems, but none of the higher ups are drawing attention to this. Why?

Fucking IKBR market purchases are so out of order, shit is like 1% either way, never using that shit in line I'll wait in line with my limit like a good little slut
vanguard doesn't even let you trade stocks

I haven't applied for the options/margin at vanguard and probably wouldn't because their rates are shit. I will probably eventually open an IBKR account for that because they have the best rates, but wouldn't mind fucking around on Robinhood with a small amount for free and start getting a roth match going forward, but I also don't trust them not to jew with fees or somehow rugpull the offers in the future when I actually want to move the money out.

The dot com bubble contained many such cases, sad.
1% of the worlds energy is used for crypto. lel.

Uncle sam gets a cut, wall street gets a cut, the retards holding it get a cut. Simple as.

At least the dotcom bubble had the concept of profitability behind it. The internet was going to revolutionize everything. Crypto doesn't even pretend to be profitable.

but none of the higher ups are drawing attention to this. Why?

Like who, the government? it's so they can actually stock up on things on value (gold) while everyone else is too busy obsessing over 1s and 0s

Crypto has real cases but they're a tiny tiny percentage of the valuation. Main use cases are for the 3rd world and for political dissidents banned from internet banking. Also buying drugs online I suppose.

Thanks

wtf is happening with SMCI

will the anon who bought my PLTR put exercise it already, I want the money back to reinvest and do not want to wait till sunday. Thank you

Yes the government, but also CEOs, top bankers, famous educators... They have been largely silent on this insanity.
Agreed

Yeah, if I could I would
Dont have sufficient margin + euros cant buy spy if I wanted to write covered options. Naked options is suicide

what do you mean...this is what smci does

We have a demented clown trying to grift what's left of the country in charge of the world reserve currency with his kike buddies and peoples bank accounts get shut off for hurting people's feelings nowadays and people on a fucking finance board still can't understand the value of Bitcoin.

whats happening to smci

You must not be very well acquainted with that memestock
Its not the first time it does this shit

When you come to this market you stick to what you know and your plan. You gonna go around chasing every buster shilling a pump?

futures

The funny thing is that I own crypto, I just think the current valuation is retarded. Only reason I haven't sold it all is because if I'm wrong I'd feel like blowing my brains out, so keeping at least two BTC as a suicide stack.

A decentralized, global currency would have immense value, but Bitcoin isn't it.

this footage is obviously doctored

go to wsb

everyone posting their gains in call options

I know how this plays out

Theyre posting demo account gains

Theres nothing meme about smci. Its even less of a meme than your beloved nvidia. Its simply undervalued right now and all the smart people bought it when it dropped into the 20s.

I shall wait until FUD reigns and buy, better than holding this stupid fucking 0.5BTC that I can't even sell or exchange without giving a cum sample to the UN

Is this the new /smg/ bull-chan?

its not a memestock

ror, rmao
Will you hold when it starts dropping back to 20s?
Because it will.

might go back to 60 first though

Yes

how is it possible for there to only be like 2 red days in the last 4 weeks?

A new crop of overconfident traders who won on calls the last few days and will now proceed to lose all of their gains

Niggers this time. the jews are just letting them go wild until it's time to dump again.

when you get the Call you'll Put in work just like the rest of us. Your will get your stonks dirty just like the rest of us.

68 shares of CRWV going into earnings tomorrow, contemplating doubling it before they report

keep it or sneed it? money is clearly rotating back into semis but BAKA being +20% in a month makes me think we are almost at the top of the cycle...sell in May and go away so they say but I think S&P retests 6100 before a big leg down. NVDA earnings will be the make or break it in a few weeks but this is kind of a lateral play. Saudi deal and rolling back AI diffusion is big

Thinking we are having red futures for once. I dunno about the intraday.

unsolicited melty post about Trump

lol loser

Anyone going to ride the Etoro rollercoaster tomorrow?

Amazing how pic related is so true. It really is just scams all the way down.

Are they finnally going publically traded?

Dem crypto etfs a good vuy?

The main advantage of crypto is you're able to cold wallet it and have it be unobtainable by kikes or kike servants and also some like Monero are able to be used for untrackable transactions which is valuable when your gangster government goes tyrannical, crypto ETFs completely destroy that utility

how is it possible for there to only be like 2 red days in the last 4 weeks?

Because I bought puts. Seriously though the only way to trade this market is to get yourself an unfair advantage. Everything else is blind luck and gambling.

My line of thinking is that why make money on crypto when I can make money on the stuff that surrounds crypto.

in that case just buy MSTR or crypto miners if you mean the things like shitrock etf that's the same as buying btc directly except it's in someone else's wallet.

Nice trips, don't beat up the shitlibs too badly. After losing the house, the Senate, the presidency and the popular vote, bitching on the internet is all they have left :)

Anecdotally did some DD and saw a Form 13-G filed that shows the CEO of Fidelity owns 31million shares of CRWV aka 9% of the float
smart money is long

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abigail_Johnson

Abigail Pierrepont Johnson[1] (born December 19, 1961) is an American billionaire businesswoman heiress and the CEO of Fidelity Investments. Her family and their affliates own approximately 40% of Fidelity Investments, which was founded by her grandfather, Edward C. Johnson II.[2][3][4]

Since 2014, Johnson has been president and chief executive officer (CEO) of Fidelity,[5] and chair of its former sister company Fidelity International (FIL).[6][7] In November 2016, Johnson was named chair and remained CEO and president, giving her full control of Fidelity.[8]

As of June 2024, Johnson's wealth is approximately $35.6 billion according to Bloomberg L.P. and $31.1 billion according to Forbes.[9][10] She is one of the world's wealthiest women and the richest person residing in Massachusetts.

henlo mister jerome
i am short
please fix this
i cannot get date

Why is boeing still being such a piece of shit?

No dates, they take time from looking at stocks.

They are finally recovering from exploding planes assasinating whistleblowers, and you have the gall to say they're shit?

It´s just that i heard they still have a lot of deliveries delayed, and its affecting other companies in air transports.

We are so back btw

Short some of these here desu
Ran up too much too soon

Plus Starliner has yet to actually do a mission without problems.

god I want to fuck bull-chan

soxl boutta break 19 in after hours
im boutta cuuooooooooooommmmmmm

Trump helped them sell planes to Britain, and probably sold more planes to the Middle East. China allowed their planes to make deliveries again, and will probably buy more planes. Their deliveries were up in April.

How do delays counter all that good news?

youtube.com/watch?v=ZKox4AxfRTU
youtube.com/watch?v=ZKox4AxfRTU
youtube.com/watch?v=ZKox4AxfRTU

Be careful with such power.

It´s affecting my own

AAAAA HELP ME /smg/ IM NEGATIVELY DECAYING

market still mooning after hours

looks like it wants to continue climbing AH. might hit 70 pre earnings, 75 on a great report/guidance. dont want to overplay my hand but feeling good on this one

Buy a robot vacuum. It brought a little joy to my meaningless life.

Just make sure its one with a lidar desu and not a shitty irobot

got in at 10 about 7% of my portfolio twice

got scared

sold both times to lock in minor gains

fomo'd 40% at 12

god i wish wasnt such a Anon Babble newfag

Be careful with your dirty shares. Sell them at the wrong asking price in the shower could get your wig split. Cheek busters love to watch people drop their shares in the shower. You gotta have strong hands in there.

12 is still a good price. We going to 60 by eoy.

you really think soxx will run enough for that

china chip exports have been heavily regulated and only "us allies" could access/buy blackwell chips under biden. earlier today, it was announced that that will no longer be the case.

yeah but I also fucked it this morning and panicaned bottom of the premarket opening dip (see pink dot).
timed the dip just before open pretty well though
i did some autistic line drawing to make sure I dont do it again lol
think i went a bit overboard

I live a frugal lifestyle to save dollars here and there wherever possible, but then I'll go and lose thousands on a bad trade

Not a bad month for me so far. Need soda to 60 again plz

What should i invest in with this?

You had fun though, right?

I put half my portfolio into SOXL in April. Best decision I ever made.

Deep OTM SPY 0dtes

Soda = soxl.
Interesting autocorrect

I decided to buy a real stock this morning. 5 of NVDA. Up 21 dollars. I didn't know about the Saudia Arabia meeting. That was the reason it jumped so high right? Will it jump more tomorrow? Should I rush to buy more stocks or will it be slow and steady rise now?

S&P 500 "Value"

dumped harder than anything before close

less valuable than S&P 500

what kinda bullshit is dis

Nice. I'm riding with you

just remember to place tight stops once we go above 23-25

There is no more an abstract kind of feel than watching an entire year's worth of wages disappear in a day or two of bad trades. I've been there and it feels fucking awful.

better have your portfoolio hooped nigga, or you gonna get checked

Dump your cash, BRK, USAC into Coreweave for earnings tomorrow

Be a Chad

Honest question, what's your method? What tools, indicators, etc do you primarily rely on? Any books or resources you recommend?

Bought into MSTY and PLTY during the liberation day crash

what

Usac never pops on earnings. It is a pure dividend swing play

1. Read about astrology
2. Do not redeem
3. DO NOT REDEEM SAAR

Stargate AI Saudi Arabia is gonna push Oracle and semis higher, PLTR also probably since pretty sure Karp was in Saudi and met with Trump. NVDA going higher off of this - demand that they couldn’t sell to China will be supplied to Saudi

NVIDIA released a statement on Tuesday as well, outlining the company’s new partnership with Saudi company HUMAIN. The investment partnership will begin with NVIDIA sending 18,000 of its NVIDIA BG300 Grace Blackwell AI supercomputing chips alongside its InfiniBand networking to HUMAIN.

0dte’s

how long does it take your broker to clear those from your books? After Friday market close my options are still shown in my accounts until late Saturday and sometimes into mid-day Sunday.

smg after hours

I took a break from smg for a couple years and just came back so I'm not privy to the latest memes. TF is coreweave

This is the literal

nothing ever happens-market

A 70-80% recovery despite nothing actually been solved. Just a rollback temporarily from the tariffs and even the level of the rollback is now is higher than what was expected.
Risk of recession? Entirely vanished

I went long at 4800+, also bought longs on easter monday. But I didn't hold them. I thought we'd stay around 5.3-5.5 MAX, and today we hit 5.9k in not a month. And that with support of TSLA.

Since I'm margintrading I didn't buy that much as I was still trying to figure out my "margincall to stopout/wipeout level" which is a bit more difficult to calculate with ETF than with the simple SPX, especially leveraged ETF, since they move differently and not 1:1.

I was set to open so many long, that with my shorts and backup capital (in bonds) the market could collapse til 2400, maybe 2200 and this is where I'd get into trouble. Unironically laughable. Next time I'll go max leverage, 4K is the absolute bottom, we'll actually never ever see that ever again too.

value is full of the shit.

Elon isn't paying them? surprising considering he shilled them at some point

why buy on fundamentals when vibes are up 2x.

TF is coreweave

youtube.com/watch?v=zymWPwDiWyA

My balls killing me, not wearing boxers for a few days is almost painful as shorting a company and getting greedy while it files for Chapter 13 bankruptcy, leaving you stuck with that quiet, lingering feeling for God knows how long.

Schwab lets you reuse the cash from an options sell instantly, even if it’s not settled. So if you dump a 0DTE call, you can roll straight into another trade without waiting like a poor. No T+1 bullshit.

You bought calls right anon?

If you look at NDX; the bottom was either monday the 7th or wednesday 9th, not sure if during trading hours NDX was below the 9th low or it was futures. Anyways, EVEN the 7th bottom to yesterday was

7th april to may 13th

That is less days than the dump from Feb 26 to April 7th.

The market recovered quicker than it dumped and this with strong uncertainty in regards to tariffs. The only lesson is:

Companies ALWAYS win. ALL costs will be passed on.

Up 50% in a month

What are your expectations for this?

I made a can of soup for dinner, only cost $1.50, pretty cost effective meal, will enable me to invest (gamble) more

What are your expectations for this?

After watching the vid I skipped CoreWeave. It has meme power but I listen to others who know more about its fundamentals. I have enough meme exposure so if I miss this meme gains its fine with me.

When I was deeply in debt and spending my entire paycheck on minimum credit card payments, I made big batches of soup. Spent $10/week on really good navy bean soup.

(I’m good now, no debt)

only cost $1.50

If you live near a health food store you can buy one of those pre-cooked chickens (they are hot) and throw some fresh chicken in your soops, throw some on a salad you make. You can get a lot of meals from one chicken and save a lot of money and eat healthy

Schwab lets you reuse the cash from an options sell instantly,

yes that money is there pronto, but after Markets close on Friday the contract sits on my account for Saturday and Sometimes Sunday until the cover call money is released (if assigned).

MSFT reiterated CAPEX spend that article has a fake news FUD article from 2 months ago

cnbc.com/amp/2025/05/01/coreweave-stock-surges-after-microsoft-sticks-to-spending-plans.html

Also institutions are stuck until September

The lockup period for CoreWeave, Inc. (CRWV) shares expires on September 24, 2025. This period, typically 180 days after an IPO, prevents insiders and some investors from selling their shares immediately after the company goes public

good man. The future will always belong to whoever can live off of canned soup and instant ramen the longest.

Futures

the concept was that if increased prices decrease demand, leading to lay offs, and recession. But apparently the street thinks americans can afford to pay another 30%of chinese goods and 10% on all other imports without any negative material consequence on consumers , importers, distributes, or large companies.

Just do what I do and sell soxl puts if you don't want to buy in. I opened a put position yesterday and closed it today for 1k in profit.

US Pres Trump: Relationship With China Is Very Good– Fox

- We're Trying To Open Up China

- We Have Confines Of Very Strong Deal With China

- I Think We'll Be Able To Make That Deal, I Hope

FRAMEWORK PUUUUUUUUUMP

yeah, demand and trade destruction, but companies also have managed to keep up revenue by increasing prices and selling less, just repeat

I hope the market tanks and FUCKS all you reddit moonkids.

Doggo-san, Nippon 4% PPI yoy, whenu hiku?

Thoughts on KSS? Short interest is high and business seems to be undervalued
youtube.com/watch?v=jgVGsAq3btE

CRWV is for day trading. What the fuck are you people doing holding it?

coreweave is an ETH mine????? using ai to mine eth?????

Is there a good reason to not just buy 100k of MSTY?

i dont think we are out of the woods just yet. But always start getting antsy when CAPE is 36.

american consumers can just take on on more debt

It .asked me think of Palantir. When it was shilled here in 2021 I laughed and most of us skipped it. If you got in the long term would've been a great payoff but the time frame was prohibitive. I don't leave my money in positions that long. But some might prefer the long game

isn't it a bad idea to buy when it's up

Ran-chan

now thats a girl i haven't seen in a long time. God i miss those smg days...

i don't completely understand it but something about NAV erosion. there's an argument about yieldmax etfs not being worth investing in because rather than maintaining its price point and paying out the profits in divvies like its supposed to, it drops bigly when the underlying asset drops. in short, you have to keep buying up more MSTY shares in order to be profitable, but if thats the case you might as well just buy MSTR. a smarter anon might explain it better

Probably scammers/botters aren't getting paid.

Palantir. When it was shilled here in 2021

I was an early investor because it was/is tied to InQTel but was surprised it tanked to $7, but I had confidence and rode it out to $60 and sold it to reinvest. I have since bought it on dumps and sold on pumps to rake in more cash to invest in other stocks. I just view stocks as a way to move up, I don't care about company itself. My long game is a few stable growth stocks and treasury ETFs

THIS (yeah, I use it intentionally).

totally normal functioning economy stuff.

Thats the best part, credit card debt, student loan debt, Car loan upside down debt, medical debt, and wages stagnating in relation to inflation.

Absolutely a great idea try to buy between 20-23 on a day BTC and MSTR drop. The fund manager has been a market market trading on the floor since the 80s watch this interview to understand how the fund works

youtube.com/live/dIOKlayHA8k?si=31cJ7C3FRd-knyH0

futures

Does anyone know what the derivatives market for crypto looks like? I know the primary market itself is close to 3.5 trillion dollars.

Im wondering if a huge crypto crash would be enough to send the economy over the edge. There doesnt seem to be any catalyst that the market is buying that would lead to downward movement at this time. No amount of war, tariff , or poor economic data is enough to sway the market downwards.

its a crab eat crab world down there

Do not waste your money on MSTY. If you believe in MSTR then buy MSTR. MSTY will earn your $0.80 for every $1 you'd earn holding MSTR.

coreweave earning tomorrow btw nigga buy calls

The anti dividend niggers are so tiresome

$20/stock

collect $2/share monthly on bad months, $3-4 on good ones

paid back your cost basis in a year

still have your original investment

????

profit

I sincerely hope nobody ever listens to you. Your take is beyond awful, and your logic is completely retarded. The only thing that matters for an investment is total return on investment, and MSTR blows MSTY out of the water on that metric. If you really really need monthly income, just sell some MSTR every month -- that's all MSTY does anyways because the fund manager is a retard and loses money selling covered calls.

Musk in Arabia

I think there will be tens of billions of robots

everyone will want to have his personal robot

Yeah, we are getting iRoboted and Terminatored

You must mean total return niggers are tiresome because arguing for msty over mstr is saying "i want worse total returns"

and that makes you a moron to everyone in the room

Why turn $10,000 into $59,000 when you could instead turn $10,000 into $40,000 with the same exact risk profile? It's just a no brainer, really.

are you the same guy who doesn't buy SOXL because it decays?

No, although I do believe TQQQ is better than SOXL because Q's are more stable and therefore lose less to decay. But that's more of an opinion than a fact.

because when your iq is too low sell is a scary word because it has 1 more letter than buy

Hold til 60 and make a screenshot

Musk in arabia, tesla up 3% in after hours/extended hours. This is all hype as usual, but will it go down 3% when he comes back and has no deal on tesla?
I just bought ndx with x10 leverage and i wanna know if i can sleep well tonight

Chinese internet giant Baidu preparing to test driverless ride-hailing service in Europe

Robotaxiniggers?

OH FUCK MY LIFE IT'S DROPPING ALREADY

it's crabbing

I had cold mackerel with miso sauce for dinner. It was bony but delicious, like an anorexic chick. Should I fomo into coreweave tomorrow?

but if you bought MSTR, you would have made more money.
if you compare specifically msty to MSTR, you are essentially taking on slightly less risk (drops less) for far less return (upside capture). But the slight reduction of risk for CCFs does not in any way make up for the loss of return.
I mean just look at a chart of them, over time
When MSTR shoots to the moon, MSTY is like, kinda okay. but not great
Why take almost all of the risk of buying a leveraged bitcoin stock like MSTR, without also capturing the return?
It's really really stupid.
ALWAYS buy the underlying asset

The anti dividend niggers are so tiresome

It's not anti dividend. Dividends are great. But CCF "dividends" are just an illusion. They aren't real dividends, and they definitely aren't qualified dividends, except for the NEOS funds that are like partially tax efficient.

You can buy MSTR or whatever else and pay yourself a "dividend". No middle man needed, no management fees. And you pay long term capital gains tax automatically, not short term.
Covered call funds are dogshit, but yieldmax is the worst of the worst
I mean, even when you compare all the different CCFs to each other, yieldmax ETFs are almost always the worst. They greatly underperform their underlying assets. They are like poison.

Why turn $10,000 into $59,000 when you could instead turn $10,000 into $40,000 with the same exact risk profile? It's just a no brainer, really.

to be fair, covered call funds do have a slightly smaller risk. In this case, they usually drop a little less than their underlying asset, when it drops.
But it almost never makes up for the loss of upside capture. When the underlying asset goes up, they always fall behind.
And then more behind. and more behind.
It's just not smart. Buying a CCF is paying someone else to help you lose money. You don't need to pay a management fee to pay yourself a "dividend". Just liquidate 10% of your position and boom you have a 10% dividend.

Counter argument, CCF's deliver dividends even when the market crabs sideways. MSTY will perform well even when MSTR isn't on a bull run, and still captures some of the upwards momentum. You can also protect yourself of MSTY by setting a trailing stop loss in case of a draw down. If you're bullish on MSTR, you can buy MSTR and get more upside, yes. But MSTY allows you to have a comparatively extremely high rate of return on a neutral-bullish outlook, and can be sold off on a bear run. MSTR performs better in a bull market, but is also capable of trading sideways for no profit. We shouldn't fraudulently assume that the best bull case is what will actually play out in reality.

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to be fair, covered call funds do have a slightly smaller risk. In this case, they usually drop a little less than their underlying asset, when it drops.

They're supposed to, you're right, but unfortunately for MSTY their fund manager is a retard who manages to lose to MSTR even when MSTR is going down. He sells the covered calls way too close to the money, and then when MSTR bucks as it goes down it breaks into the money and he spends 3-4 weeks of covered call profits to buy back the ITM calls. MSTY literally is net negative on covered call income for 2025 right now, even with the huge dump that happened.

That only works if the fund actually makes money with the calls. MSTY doesn't because the fund manager is awful at his job. MSTY only actually makes money by selling off their synthetic position as MSTR goes up.

I just wanted to say the MSTR vs MSTY discussion is starting to get annoying (like SOXL decay) and that somebody posts this

*then

Shadman

Nigger it is a completely different financial instrument than MSTR you are comparing apples to oranges and that makes YOU the nigger

The point is to use it to generate income that if you people keep saying total return you don’t have to reinvest the dividend you can use it to buy MSTR or any other stock you want the point is you get your capital returned back to you at a faster rate than companies that shell out a few cents a quarter. How about you do a fair analysis and compare the total return to something like SCHD with dividends reinvested instead of being a nigger and comparing it to an outright stock

Depending on how they do for the month/year the distribution can be taxed as return on capital for example last months ROC was 98% so it’s not always just non qualified dividends
If you buy MSTR on these you would be subject to capital gains and you are selling some of your shares instead of doing DRIP or getting appreciation on top of the distribution of MSTR stays in an uptrend with MSTY.
Also another reason to hold it is due to the synthetic income they can make - example they made over 500million in synthetic income and didn’t distribute all of it last month…meaning they already have income stored away for the next distribution even if they don’t perform well this month. If MSTY goes back to $30-40 then it pays a higher distribution and you are closer to getting back your cost basis in distributions

Nigger it is a completely different financial instrument than MSTR you are comparing apples to oranges and that makes YOU the nigger

Yes, MSTY is a much worse financial instrument than MSTR is. This is true.

fund manager is a retard

I’m sure you have a better resume than this guy kek

I'm certainly better at trading than he is at managing MSTY. Look into the shit they do, they waste enormous amounts of money buying insurance calls that never matters and constantly sells calls into the money because he's too greedy with it.

More likely he just doesn't care about MSTY because he knows idiots like you will buy into the fund whether or not it performs well because you aren't financially literate enough to understand what it's even doing.

That only works if the fund actually makes money with the calls. MSTY doesn't because the fund manager is awful at his job. MSTY only actually makes money by selling off their synthetic position as MSTR goes up.

Wouldn't the nature of MSTY mean that covered calls get blown through when MSTR goes up, forcing the fund the take profits from synthetics? If MSTR traded sideways, wouldn't MSTY then be making almost all of its profit from CC's? I kinda seems like you're saying "the fund manager sucks because he's making not making profits on CC's because the underlying is doing well which he is making profit on."

MSTR is a different financial instrument than MSTR

Both are stocks/shares. What are YOU talking about?

Wouldn't the nature of MSTY mean that covered calls get blown through when MSTR goes up, forcing the fund the take profits from synthetics?

What kept happening throughout this year is when MSTR was going down he'd sell calls only 2-3% out of the money. This is great while MSTR kept going down, but MSTR is volatility incarnate and of course it's not a straight line down but it would spike up from time to time and break into the money. It'd close up, but only a little bit, and then next week lose what little gains it had.

Usually he wouldn't even wait the call out, he'd immediately buy it back the moment it went ITM. And then by the end of the week MSTR would be back underneath his strike price and he lost money because he panicked.

Counter argument, CCF's deliver dividends even when the market crabs sideways.

but their total return is still basically zero. Again, the dividend is just an illusion. For you to stay neutral here, you have to reinvest those dividends.
If you actually took out those dividends, you would get horrific NAV erosion in a sideways market. So you have to keep reinvesting them. In other words, you're paying someone a fee just for your money to stay neutral. It's fucking garbage.
You can just buy the underlying, and in a sideways market, it will just naturally go up and down and then go net sideways, and you pay nothing.

MSTY will perform well even when MSTR isn't on a bull run, and still captures some of the upwards momentum.

I get what you're saying here, but why buy MSTY if you think the underlying is going to drop? Why buy any CCF to take advantage of "less drop" compared to the underlying. The CCF still drops, just slightly less.

But MSTY allows you to have a comparatively extremely high rate of return on a neutral-bullish outlook, and can be sold off on a bear run.

I mean, in this case, MSTR has so much more upside potential compared to MSTY (normally CCFs aren't quite that bad, but yeah MSTY is one of the worst compared to its underlying asset), that even after a bear period, MSTR is still up compared to MSTY because it had so much more gains when bitcoin goes up. So that advantage, of the CFF catching up to the underlying in a bear period kinda gets wiped out. Specifically in MSTY's case. Other CCFs are not as bad. MSTY is one of the worst ones out there.
Why would anyone ever buy MSTY when you could just buy MSTR instead?

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Depending on how they do for the month/year the distribution can be taxed as return on capital for example last months ROC was 98% so it’s not always just non qualified dividends

bruh
Why the fuck would you PAY someone to give you your money back to you?
The return of capital shit is one of the worst things about covered call funds. It should be criminal, honestly.
It's not like return of capital distributions on master limited partnerships. That's actually smart accounting, taking the capital loss of mining equipment over time and writing it off as a loss (which is actually is), and then filing it as a loss, so they can give you preferential tax treatment and file your dividend as ROC
When a CCF does it, they are LITERALLY just giving your money back to you. Why pay someone for the privilege of giving your money back to you?

Any time a CFF does ROC, that is ultimate fail, and the retarded CCF manager admitting they can't make money selling covered calls.

If you buy MSTR on these you would be subject to capital gains and you are selling some of your shares instead of doing DRIP or getting appreciation on top of the distribution of MSTR stays in an uptrend with MSTY.

DRIP is still taxed as ordinary income if the shit they are paying you with is considered ordinary income
You have to pay taxes on dividends you reinvest, unless they are considered long term capital gains, or for whatever other reason
And covered call income is almost always considered taxable income
So if you reinvest dividends from a CCF, you are literally paying taxes on money that is handed back to you, just for the privilege of being able to... put it back into that account. It's fucking retarded.
Getting "dividends" from covered call income is in all ways inferior to just selling shares. They are both considered taxable income, but at least if you sell shares it can be long term capital gains if you hold it for a year.

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they started out originally mining ETH and pivoted to AI cloud/GPU lending to MSFT, META, etc

Also another reason to hold it is due to the synthetic income they can make - example they made over 500million in synthetic income and didn’t distribute all of it last month…meaning they already have income stored away for the next distribution even if they don’t perform well this month. If MSTY goes back to $30-40 then it pays a higher distribution and you are closer to getting back your cost basis in distributions

This is all playing games with money my dude
If MSTY goes up, that means MSTR went up. And if MSTR went up, it will go up MUCH more than MSTY. If you are betting on MSTR going up, you would always want to buy MSTR instead of MSTY. There is a huge difference here.
MSTY is like uniquely dog shit, compared to all the other CCFs. yieldmax in particular is dog shit, but MSTY might actually be the worst CCF in existence. it's like dog shit squared

Don't sell til 60

you are all over complicating it. the only thing I give a fuck about is I can buy a $20-$25 stock and collect $2-3 monthly in dividends instead of $1/quarter on something like SCHD. comparing it to the underlying stock it trades options volatility on isnt a good faith argument.

I wouldnt go long here on MSTR because it is overbought and shouldnt be above 400, just like BTC is overbought and shouldnt be 105k. 85-90k BTC is a more fair valuation and would say MSTR is a long around 330. they both have ran up too soon

should i buy the UNH dip? Just throw 10k at it and hope for a cool 10-20%?

So you recommend people buy an asset that you think is going to lose a lot of value. That makes you a fucking retard.

If you believe in MSTR just buy MSTR. If you don't believe in MSTR then you shouldn't be in any MSTR derivative except MSTZ.

Look into it first. Don't just buy because it's cheap. Relevant:
youtube.com/watch?v=JVvwCkB-JLE

I wouldnt go long here on MSTR because it is overbought and shouldnt be above 400, just like BTC is overbought and shouldnt be 105k. 85-90k BTC is a more fair valuation and would say MSTR is a long around 330. they both have ran up too soon

... My dude
Are you actually retarded? I serious here.
When you are buying MSTY, you are buying MSTR. That is the underlying asset. And if you don't like MSTR or bitcoin, why the fuck would you buy MSTY?
Where do you think those sky high 30% "dividends" come from? They come from the price action of MSTR, which is leveraged bitcoin.

comparing it to the underlying stock it trades options volatility on isnt a good faith argument.

Of course it is.
The underlying asset is almost the exact same thing, except it has a better total return. A way way better total return. MSTY is one of the worst CCF in existence. You could randomly pick any other CCF and it would probably be better.

you are all over complicating it. the only thing I give a fuck about is I can buy a $20-$25 stock and collect $2-3 monthly in dividends instead of $1/quarter on something like SCHD.

You could buy MSTR, pay yourself a 3 dollar "dividend" each month if you want, and you would be way better off.
Those aren't dividends. I feel like you're missing this.
Especially if it's return of capital. Then it really is a scam dividend my friend.
I feel like you are overcomplicating things, and trying to make it sound like MSTY is some magical thing. It's not. It's dog shit. You don't need to believe me. Just look at a chart of total return for MSTY and MSTR on the same chart.
Then tell me all this magical "options volatility" is worth it to you. All of that shit MSTY is doing behind the scenes is ultimately just coming out to a final result. And that final result is dog shit. It doesn't matter if you think it's magical dog shit. It's still dog shit.
Dog shit that you PAY FOR. Should be criminal.

there will never be another red day apparently.