Explain how he's wrong

What is it today with people either being extreme hard left or extreme hard right, is it because being in the middle is pointless now because policies the middle of the pack hold still have extreme consequences depending on whether you are left or right?

happenings are fun

Yeah man, just stop buying.
Nevermind the thousands of people employed in all those industries relying on people buying their shit.

this is who is calling you a tranny on the internet for not worshipping trump

We don't them so regularly, a phone should last a few years at least.

BRO SELLS TESTICLE DEODORANT
youtu.be/UQC3Cv9ziG8?t=60

fall of rome how does this effect you.jpg

Sorry I don't subscribe to communism.

no argument

bunch of buzzwords

Thanks for playing

I cant afford toys

its literally the fall of rome

Fascism supports the weak over the strong and tells the weakest that they are the strongest based on their selfless slave-like obedience to a so-called greater cause.

This is why fascism actually works; slavery is freedom- a mark of virtue, the weak finding strength from their submission.

A functional system for the slaves at the bottom and everybody is happy with it.

BDSM sado-masochistic erasure of the individual resulting in a prostrating gimp - peasantry is Built for Big Black Cock since there are no freebee spots in the pimp hierarchy

The Elites are fascist, plebs are plebs
Learn the difference, it might save your life.

I already gave you my argument. This sounds nothing like poverty degrowth porn that leftist love to jerk off. I'm sorry to inform you are a leftist. I legit recommend family murder-suicide since your family probably also thinks they are conservatives but are now reiterating communist talking points that wouldn't be too dissimilar from quotes from Gorbachev.

But yeah dismiss me for ad homs, whatever nigger.

What a great thought out argument, you're right we DON'T need food to eat. Also recessions and the world losing it's trust in the US dollar is a great thing :)

Just make more money.

imagine actually defending this fucked up economic system just cause the orange man wants to fix it

Fascists are never beating the closet gay allegations

Works on my machine.

It's rich that Quarter Pounder of all people is saying this, but let's put aside accusations of hypocrisy for a second.
Yes, we don't NEED these things, we don't NEED anything other than food, shelter, and socialization. But does that means human beings should be satisfied with the bare minimum in society? You can go live in fucking Africa if that's what you want.

I do need the Switch 2

Switch 2 be bussin fr fr

I was happy for the first time in my life before the inauguration

My family never worked in manufacturing so it works fine for us.

I'm more interested in the meta conversation. Why are we so addicted to buying goods that could be made at a higher build quality i.e. iPhones should last like 10 years and not have built in death through software update bloat. Most of the time when I upgrade my phone it's because my phone is obsolete, due to memory limits from software updates. I first started thinking about this when retro devs started making games that were thought impossible on "obsolete hardware". Tomb raider on GBA, gta3 on Dreamcast, tons of zx spectrum devs making amazing games that people would've shit bricks if released in the 80s. It's a problem of killing tech that hadn't hit its peak yet, for new "innovative" tech. This happens with everything, we get FOMO fever and ditch our perfectly good products for new shit that doesn't really have a usecase yet(crypto, JK I use crypto to buy more crypto). I'd prefer if hardware upgrades were made available like PCs.

You're phone doesn't have enough memory, just upgrade the sdd

But these days, it's becoming harder to find phones where you can easily replace the battery. It used to be

Pop off the case

Take out old battery

Put in new battery

But iPhones make this so much more difficult than it should be. I'm not a newbie, I've replaced screens and put new batteries in androids and iPhones, it's not the hardest thing, but the average person looks at it like it's rocket science, creating a market for something that should be as easy as putting new AAA batteries in a remote. This is a part of the problem. As access to new devices becomes cheap, people don't want to take care of their things it's a throw away mentality created by consumerism an masse. This is not good. I'm not a huge car guy, but I know how to change my oil, replace tires, etc... many things are straight forward on cars, but if my tranny blows, I'm taking it to a mechanic as that is specialized knowledge. We are becoming dumber and/or lazier, by proxy of consumerism.

Thanks for not learning a thing from history and ignoring all the economists.
Anti-intellectualism will be the end of democracy.

I call this the Trump Pump
It's when retards pretend to be on the right, to try and turn people against Trump (it always fails)

You Lost
You're Seething
You're Gay

He’s not wrong because only growing and innovative economies need things like computers. America is transitioning into a slaver nation like China for its sphere of influence so we only need slaves and slaveslop to function!

Nobody here is extreme hard left except for the rightoids who are now literally quoting marxists to defend this shit. Your pathetic "b-b-but both sides!" shit won't work here. The entire government is red and so is the us stock market. Own it, bitch. Or don't. You will suffer the consequences regardless.

You do NOT need a house.
You do NOT need real food.
You do NOT need freedom.

You WANT them

You will live in the pod, eat the nutrient paste, and work 18 hour shifts as a slave. And you will be happy.

Hey fag I don't care.

As long as leftists are crying, I can survive off their tears.
So cry harder bitch.
MAGA

You also going to lament that you don't know how to make your own clothes?
Grow your own food?
Churn your own butter?
Or is it really just "I miss replaceable batteries in phones, a feature less than 5% of people used and only because NiMH chemistries only lasted a couple hours"

It's a weird ideological shift. The right is becoming enlightened as the left is dumbing down. it's not so much a shift, but a revealing and understanding of what each party actually is. Republicans have always been about less government, but actually realizing that also comes with other promises, like not wanting to be dependent on importing from other countries. Self reliance and strong community (sound oxymoronic, but charity starts with you, then you spread it judeo-christian morality, which is Republican) creates a good civilization. Also, just because we shouldn't depend on imports, doesnt mean we shouldn't import some things, because it's nice to have things from other places, not only as a novelty, but as a way of saying "hey, you make good products, I will support this." Strange to me, is the fact that leftists, only a few short years ago, were all about destroying this unsustainable economy in order to build communist America, in its place. That got thrown out with the bathwater in the blink of an eye. Wtf happened to the left? They used to have morals and stood up and had ethics, not "fuck you, I'm a lgbtq supporter and if you don't like trannies punching women in the face, you're a Nazi and a fascist and a homophobe!!" What the fuck, it's hilariously sad, kek.

maga brainrot. soon they'll say we don't need food and shelters either. while living comfortably in their money accumulated before all these mess.

You don't need retirement savings.

You just want to retire.

Huge tarrifs are smaller government

Slavery is freedom

Here's an unhinged non sequitur about leftists that somehow makes the above statements true and not hypocritical

I grow green onions, potatoes, ginger and garlic. I've made cloth on a loom(sucks desu) and I've seen a few pairs of socks, on top of being able to patch my own clothes. Making shoes is on my list. I've also churned my own butter the old fashioned way, it's not horrible but using a whisk/electric beater and I often make homemade whip cream and butter with heavy whipping cream. You're just retarded, it seems. How do you not grow green onions on your window sill? All green onions you buy from the store can be put in water and grown, limitlessly when you cut them to the root. Are you really just a lazy nothing person consumer?

This faggots entire personality is based on consooming and he has the balls to say, "don't consume, but please support me so I can keep doing it."

Doge is making government smaller, tariffs are reciprocal, I never said anything about slavery being freedom, you'll need to elaborate and yes, leftists lost the plot. Thanks for playing.

MAGAtards are also not beating the bro maoist allegations

There's no way you can actually believe Republicans are smart.

Lel I thought Trump sounded like a Communist too

I'm a Republican and I'm smarter than you.

Bro maoists

Say something useful, fucking midwit

What are you going to run your Steam games on with 30+% tariffs on CPUs and GPUs?

MAGAtards are making commie talking points to cope now

Doge isn't doing shit, he fired a bunch of people only to immediately rehire them WITH FUCKING BACK PAY

Musk literally just gave them a fucking paid vacation.

Trump knows what he's doing and I fully trust him, Musk however is an actual autistic retard and if it wasn't for donating so much Trump wouldn't be forced to give him a tiny role to placate his dumb ass.

Saving money to buy things you desire is lost on this generation

I live on a cattle ranch. My house was already paid for before my mom was born. The price of beef will go up due to the tariffs, meaning I get richer. But go on about why I need to support trannies and Venezuelan gangs.

Trump knows what he's doing and I fully trust him,

Who hired Musk?

Why are we so addicted to buying goods that could be made at a higher build quality i.e. iPhones should last like 10 years and not have built in death through software update bloat.

So you want shit that not only costs more but also causes the economy to contract because you're not buying a new one any time soon?

You will own NOTHING and you will be HAPPY.

Doge is actually cutting wasteful spending... Idk what you want, they are doing it for free and making more progress than anybody has made for 40 years.

You'd have to save less without the tariffs, fucking idiot.

You are creating a dichotomy and picked a side. Your opinion is biased. You don't have to look hard to find comparisons between groups, education levels, economic status, and make a pretty easy correlation. Republicans aren't enlightened.

than anybody has made for 40 years.

Bill Clinton downsized the government by 400,000 workers I'm the 90s. DOGE by their own admission hasn't even cracked 30K

Ok so now you have 30% less left for domestic consumption and this will help the local economy how?

He's not. The people complaining about the tariffs are the same people who normally scream that the stock market isn't the economy and only affects the rich who they want to kill.

I never said that. People buy things as long as it's the newest variant. Giving companies more r&d capitol to actually make something better. Leave the new iPhone on the market for a few more years, apple will still make money, also sells parts and supplies for fixing things or upgrading yourself, discount product a year before new variant is worth being produced,more people will have access and sales will rise due to low income peoples being able to afford it. New product releases, cycle continues. Whats wrong with this

Have you just tried buying android and not the phone with proprietary software?

My point still stands, just save more if you really want it.

recession is good bro, just spend less

says the 300k in debt fat faggot

The average Republican isn't the same as the 90s soda drinking trailer park retards. Those are leftists now. I know because I live in a small town and all the fat people in low income trailer parks are democrats. Really strange actually.

Why is literally anyone listening to financial advice from a retard 300k in debt?

Yeah, I'll admit that bill did a good job on balancing the budget and downsizing government. Why is it that you can't give an inch and say that doge is actually doing something, more than any modern Democrat politician is capable of? You're not interested in having a leveled conversation, it's all one-sided bullshit. That's also a problem.

Don't buy it then? Wtf are you even arguing at this point?

I have both. Though, I only use Linux and Windows, fuck apple computers.

I humiliated you so you retreat into a false sanctimonious posture. Eat shit

Needs and wants are intertwined.
What he should say is I dont like you buying ipads cellphones and video game consoles.
But he's too much of a pussy to have an independant opinion

I humiliated

Far from it, but thanks for proving my point that you aren't actual in the conversation to get solutions, just to validate your fragile ego.

here's my anecdote

Yeah you're much smarter than... Something.

the tariffs are reciprocal

The """reciprocal"""" tariffs were calculated on trade deficits you shit eating retard. Trump lied to your dumb fat American faces just so he can introduce a new 10% tax on everything and you clap for it, lmao.

All this shit is just to sell you a new tax, no world leader is going to take these completely fabricated numbers seriously because how can you remove tariffs that don't exist? or maybe Trump expects third world shitholes to somehow liquidate their entire countries GDP to balance the trade deficit?

According to Trump

trade deficit = tariffs

trade surplus = tariffs

no trade at all from uninhabited Islands = tariffs

it's so amazingly retarded, there isn't a strand of logic to be found.

It's actually a real statistic. Most Republicans work hard, most Democrats want the government to subsidize their life. Not my fault you're a midwit. And before you try and pull some "smoking gun", I said MOST not all, I know hardworking democrats and retarded republicans, no group is 100% exact in their structuring.

It's still not as much as tariffs being levied on the US. And yes it is reciprocal.

During Covid you couldn’t be certain basic necessities would be on the shelves. Who would have guessed that a few years later people would be complaining about having to pay a cost for self sufficiency. Humanity is capricious as all hell

It's still not as much as tariffs being levied on the US. And yes it is reciprocal.

dumb fuck, lmao.

rightoid god king commits to indefensible acts of retardation

opens up the exact time to start self-reflecting

start calling each other communists

The memes were true

That's not accurate

but muh Chyna

ok now do every other country on Earth

You do NOT NEED a bed to sleep in!
You do NOT NEED a car to drive!
You do NOT NEED a roof over your head!
You WANT these things!

If you want to solve these problems you need an actual industrial policy to fix them rather than just throwing tariffs and hoping for the best.

Tax rates, duties, vat, cif. Dontcha know? Ohh I guess you don't...

you do NOT need the new video game console

this is funny to read as a person who's been a pirate for 20 years

sales taxes are tariffs

holy shit what a fucking retard, your Anon Babble IQ is showing

this, unironically

Thats been part of the equation since the tariffs were announced. You seem frustrated that I'm not falling for your bullshit.

We got here because 70 years of "moderate" politics ended up just being the worst ideas from both sides and was driving the west into the ground.

Not sure that this is any better though.

Ewew, you can neber be woamn

I personally hope that Brazil gets raped. Fuck that shithole.

you do not NEED coffee

you do not NEED tea

you do not NEED good quality meat

you do not NEED good quality chocolate

you do not NEED good quality cheese

you do not NEED good quality wine

you do not NEED to import any raw materials

ok but I want them

Mommy and daddy won't take care of you forever.

inflation is a good thing now, actually

He's wrong because I don't want any of those things. i don't like tablets, i prefer android, and i don't play video games

VAT is a foreign tax on American goods!

Retard
If my neighbor knits a sweater with her own hands from domestic materials everyone in this chain pays VAT

The price of beef will go up due to the tariffs

meaning I get richer

you do realize everything you buy for upkeeping and keeping your cattle, and overheads will be significantly more expensive too, right?

Cool we'll be just like North Korea where the only thing preventing famine is the supplemental food people get from the backyard vegetable gardens their retired grandmother has to maintain

So it hurts domestic jobs and the only ones who benefit are the ones who already got theirs? So Trump was bullshitting about the economy?

Because not everyone can make a living as a boomer force feeding cattle corn and onions

Pretty sure the US is a net exporter of beef. That means prices will go down due to depressed demand when they counter tariff. In fact, all of US agriculture is getting fucked.

How can this be when your beef is so beautiful and European beef is so weak

The price will go up because of Brapzil getting tariffed.

Taxes are taxes, who the fuck cares about the name? Can I have your wallet if i tell you it's for [insert thing you like]? No refunds btw

Did some more research after posting this. US exports prime cuts and imports trim for burgers. So, cheap steaks and expensive burgers.

Legit full doxes for all reddit spacers. Someone should drop your faggot IP so that I can come beat your skull in, discordtranny kek

Pretty sure the US is a net exporter of beef

US beef overwhelmingly sucks, as in 96% of it is low quality
if there was any meat that deserves to be called goyslop it'd be beef from US

inflation

now you're just coping

America had tariff-based revenue for most of its history especially during the period of the 19th century when it was most capitalist and achieved superpower status.

I also love the irony of calling tariffs communist, because they stop you buying shit made in communist countries LOL.

NOOO STOP FORCING ME TO SUPPORT MY OWN PEOPLE AND COUNTRY I NEED TO CONSUME VIETNAMESE GARBAGE YOU COMMIE!!!!!

Braindead liberal kys.

especially during the period of the 19th century when it was most capitalist and achieved superpower status.

You mean the gilded age? That’s what you want?

I want people to have luxury it pumps my bags

You will own nothing and you'll be happy.

Weird that the right went so insane over this huh?

Tariffs doesn't just affect luxuries. It affects everything. Food, construction, transportation, every essential, it's all now more expensive. Basically what has just happened is that your wealth and purchasing power has instantly been reduced across the board, for no reason.

wtf is this woke commie saying

Do these niggers not realize that every single business is conducted using modern technology nowadays? Literally everything will be affected

The 19th century is not at all comparable because there was basically no service economy at all

It affects literally everything. Not just shitty electronics and cars. Food industry is getting hit hard, from grocery prices to what you can actually put on the table. Rice and beans and grits is what people will be able to afford. Time for government cheese 2.0

The fact that we make "communist" countries work in sweatshops and factories to enrich Western capitalists is kinda based desu. Only problem is that it ends up enabling those shitty governments to stay in power. But Trump isn't tariffing them on the basis of anti-communism, he's tariffing them because his staffers literally misinterpreted trade data and don't understand what a trade deficit is.

migabros wtf