/smg/ - Stock Market General

I mean if you put aside the tariffs and whatnot how can you possibly defend him threatening to annex Canada and Greenland? Memes aside it is clearly an incredibly retarded thing to do.

henlo mister jerome
why are you here answering questions
it is sunday
bls go be wif your family
go see grateful dead tributes
thank you sir
no further questions

So how bad is nvda getting fucked next week? 90? 80 EOW?

Annexing Canada is pretty presumptuous, but annexing Greenland would be completely fine and possibly even favorable for everyone involved.

I don't like that he lies and makes shit up constantly

If you think any politician says anything true to you ever, then just tune out everything and come back when you're over the age of 10. Trump constantly markets himself and tries to spin things as positively as possible, but at least he does so blatantly. He's an "honest liar" as Dave Chappelle said. Whereas any other politician is deeply and covertly manipulative and everything they say to you has been put through a dozen focus groups to make sure it has the desired outcome on your goycattle brain.

Attacking a NATO nation dragging the whole of Europe into a war with the US

This gives Russia the perfect chance to continue with less resistance

China gets the perfect opportunity to just take Taiwan

Even if you argue that nobody will actually defend Greenland that would still absolutely destroy NATO trust and destabilize world security hard as now the USA is also a potential opponent. You'd have to be braindead to think taking Greenland is a good move.

There will be massive "support" at 100 because that's just how people are. And I have my doubts it will even reach that. NVDA is the hottest stock of the past 5 years, and many, many people are eager to slurp it widely across both retail and professional investors. It even has a somewhat sane P/E ratio which makes it appealing as everything else in this bubble pops.

Who said anything about attacking? Trump would extend an offer to them to become part of the US. Either they'd say yes willingly, or maybe not, and then maybe Trump puts the squeeze on them in some diplomatic or economic way or comes up with some "security" justification to just declare it belongs to the US, but I can't imagine any scenario where it becomes an actual armed conflict, which means the rest of the world will, at most, "strongly condemn these actions" since no one is getting physically hurt.

The reason I said attack is because USA isn't getting Greenland in any other way than military. I'm not sure if you've read news outside of the US but the population there wasn't exactly welcoming of Vance, and less so of USA saying they'll "have" Greenland.

or comes up with some "security" justification to just declare it belongs to the US

Which would trigger Article 5 since it would be a forced annexation.

Bros wtf, I think The Big One is coming
Sell every company with a presence on the west coast?

possibly even favorable for everyone involved

You can maybe spin this as a win for the US by gaining access to hypothetical resources down the line but I don't see what Greenland or Denmark get out of this at all. Greenland's whole economy is propped up by subsidies from the Danish government, 40% of the population are government employees and they get to enjoy all of Denmark's social services largely at Denmark's expense. All of that goes out the window in a US annexation scenario. Meanwhile Denmark gets cucked on the world stage for everyone to see. Maybe they benefit in the short term by losing a major expense, but if the resources in Greenland are really that valuable then it would be foolish for the Danes to give up a long term economic opportunity for short term savings.

Yeah, the western nations absolutely won't give a shit if he annexes their territory, after fucking with the world ecnomy, day as usual. Dog bless Americuh

He's an "honest liar" as Dave Chappelle said

The establishment consists of spoiled bureaucrats sucking on the tit of the big business and the government. They want to preserve the status quo even if the average Joe sees that nothing is fine. The Trump types jump out of the woodworks to say what everyone else already sees, and give vague promises of what the average Joe wants, even showcase their own corruption to show how fucked the system is. This "honesty" and being "based" and (in a way) "just like me" give them a great pull in the elections and in the media. In the end they use this pull to introduce even more corruption into the said system, destroy disfunctional mechanisms instead of fixing them, benefit themselves and their circle while pissing on the citizens and instead of draining the swamp they just pollute it further (and with such an approval they usually DO go further). In reality you and everyone else are a piece of shit stuck to his heel, he just plays the games of politics and propaganda better than the demonrats. Out of curiosity: what do you thinl of Trump pardoning Milton and possibly SBF?
Maybe one day you'll make one good post on /smg/ instead of spewing shit or gobbling his cock while everyone treats you like the local smelly faggot.

Top post on r/stocks right now says shorting TSLA is the best investment you can make right now

Third top post on r/stocks calls dip buyers "exit liquidity" and says "the economy is in trouble"

New ATHs are coming aren't they?

We'll see on april 2nd. I personally don't buy or short anything until then.

Well if you say Greenland isn't happy about the prospect then I believe you, but

USA isn't getting Greenland in any other way than military

even so, I very highly doubt this. Even if people are extremely discontent about something, even that doesn't mean it will turn into a hot war. It's hard to overstate how incredibly difficult it would be to trigger a hot war between western countries. Retaliations and any other fallout would be completely economic and diplomatic for many years before anyone resorted to intra-western violence.

1. You are absolutely seething. Your TDS is flaring up. Try to calm down.
2. I didn't even say anything particularly positive about Trump.
3. This isn't pol, so I'm not going to delve as deep as you've prompted me to.

The thing is that merely 2% of Greenland's exports are to the US and their imports are even less. There is nothing that the US can do economically, so the only other options are somehow getting them to vote for independence and then to join the US, or forced annexation.
I won't say that NATO 100% would defend Greenland but it is a such a retarded risk to take from the US side. You have to take into account that doing so would most certainly give them sanctions up the ass, and since the US is primarily a consumer nation they'd crash and burn economically from sanctions.
There is nothing to win here for the US, only lose.

youtube.com/watch?v=-nPon8Ad_Ug
new ben just dropped, goes over the 100% stocks paper

I don't think the UN is brave enough to sanction the united states, nor is Europe.

if the resources in Greenland are really that valuable then it would be foolish for the Danes to give up a long term economic opportunity for short term savings

The same resources can have different value to different countries. Maybe the US has a use for the resources and the geographic location that Denmark doesn't. And if that's the case, and the US benefits a lot from the acquisition, then maybe the US can afford to continue to maintain whatever social services Greenland currently enjoys. Denmark may "provide" services to Greenland, but Denmark is physically a million miles away from Greenland, so at the end of the day, surely Greenland is implementing many of these services for itself in large part, no?

Maybe you're right. Clearly the Trump administration sees things differently in terms of feasibility and potential repercussions, so I guess we'll see what happens.

You are absolutely seething. Your TDS is flaring up. Try to calm down.

On the contrary I find you funny in a pathetic way, like in

come back when you're over the age of 10.

While you still suck (any) politicians cock and defend their absolutely idiotic policies like a naïve teenager

I didn't even say anything particularly positive about Trump.

He's an "honest liar" as Dave Chappelle said. Whereas any other politician is deeply and covertly manipulative

defending his greenland policy as not so bad

defending his tariff policy in the previous thread (call TDS, I know that it was you, fag)

Also

This isn't pol, so I'm not going to delve as deep as you've prompted me to.

Is pretty telling when I asked you a very simple question which you won't answer because it paints cheeto as yet another absolutely corrupt cunt
But I shan't shit up this thread even more, you're free to not answer, call me names or eat your crayons

which 'big one'. Cascadia (Seattle), Hayward (Bay Area), San Andreas (Los Angeles), or major war, economic crash, cyber attack, another covid?

A big earthquake. I'm thinking San Diego, LA, SF, Portland, Seattle all gone

We’re still 10% away from a true bear market.

Clearly the Trump administration sees things differently

There's a reason he fired a lot of his staff and nearly everyone one of his cabinet members did not endorse him this go around. It's the same reason he surrounded himself with LOYAL people this go around. He's an impulsive idiot that was told no by everyone 2016-2020. There's no one to question his motives now

Maybe the US has a use for the resources and the geographic location that Denmark doesn't

In which case it would be profitable for them to extract those resources themselves and then sell them to us

the US can afford to maintain whatever social services Greenland currently enjoys

If you think the US is going to keep giving Greenland free healthcare and college (plus a living stipend for students) under an administration that's wildly hostile to what government spending we have now you're beyond delusional

Denmark may "provide" services to Greenland, but Denmark is physically a million miles away from Greenland

We're functionally not any closer

Greenland is implementing many of these services for itself in large part, no?

Again, on the Danish government dime which obviously isn't happening under the US unless you think comrade Trump is going to implement socialism for Greenlanders before the rest of the US.

"Honest liar" is not exactly a huge compliment, and I'm discussing the prospect of the US annexing Greenland in and of itself, irrespective of the moral fortitude of whoever chooses to try it. I don't like the tariffs, I wasn't in the last thread, TDS is an extremely common term, and the fact you're holding a grudge and resorting to ad hominem on an anonymous forum is ironically evidence of your TDS. I'm still not going to talk about pardons, because it truly has zero biz relevance and because I don't want to upset you further.

A big earthquake

the biggest earthquake with the most destruction and likely yuuge tsunami would be around Seattle from the Cascadia zone. A significant quake with damage to more people and more air time would be Bay Area or LA. The biggest surprise with the most damage would be a 7.5-8 on the New Madrid as that area does not have any meaningful building codes for earthquakes.

nearly everyone one of his cabinet members

they were deep state operatives who worked to sabotage him every stepf of the way. Just like Jeff Sessions who stabbed him the back as fast as possible by hiring the special council to investigate 'russiagate' which has been shown to be totally fake and gay. Like him or not at least watch and see what the deep state has done to him, tried to do him, and how he 'beat them' by getting elected again by selling out to a foreign country.

I don't think the UN is brave enough to sanction the united states

US is one of five permanent security council members, US would just veto any proposed action. US votes no on any action against Israel otherwise the US would have sanctioned israel out of existence already.

In which case it would be profitable for them to extract those resources themselves and then sell them to us

Maybe, but that would take a lot of time, effort, and resource in and of itself, just to serve the interests of the US. This also doesn't account for the geographic location. If the US wants to build stuff there or otherwise occupy the physical space to serve the US's interests, no other country can do that for them.

If you think the US is going to keep giving Greenland free healthcare and college (plus a living stipend for students) under an administration that's wildly hostile to what government spending we have now you're beyond delusional

I agree to an extent, but it's a tiny population. Especially if Greenland essentially pays for itself in resources and strategic value, then maybe the US would maintain those things, just to maintain the status quo in an annexed territory and keep the people content. It's 50,000 people. That's nothing for the US.

do you remember when they made fun of TRump for getting his news from mainstream media? (Fox News)

They let cat out of bag on that, tacitly admitting that public info is propaganda, that real info is kept behind closed doors.

biggest earthquake with the most destruction and likely yuuge tsunami would be around Seattle from the Cascadia zone.

I'm hoping for it
I waffle back and forth between wanting it to kill me so this misery would finally be over, and wanting to live through it to see how long I could live in a post apocalyptic wasteland

I got your Big One right here
*unzips dick*

is this IT? is this the big one?

The Bear will leave it's cave forever

This is the part of the prophecy they meant, the eternal bear market

If the US wants to build stuff there or otherwise occupy the physical space to serve the US's interests, no other country can do that for them.

This was already possible before, the US has had an airbase in the remote north of Greenland since the 1940s. If anything the annexation push has made establishing anything new there harder.

It's 50,000 people

It's a welfare state, it's anathema to not just his entire platform but most of Congress and the public as well

whats the best investing platform?

It sure as fuck ain't Vanguard

Fidelity which is somewhat sad

whats the best investing platform?

just pick one, or two, you can change you know. I've only had/used schwab because of reasons and it has everything I need, but I am not trying to be a pro options trader.

So I assume the 25th - 26th was the lower high and over the next week the SP will decline toward 5300 and the NASDAQ down to 18k.

What in the name of niggerlovers is Robinhood Strategies? .25% of what? How much can I expect to make and why can’t I do it myself?

Finally got internet back. It was down for most of San Jose since last night. Short Comcast.

All my stock investments are in ETFS.

VWRL 50%

VEVE 25%

VHYL 25%

What do you guys think?

alpaca is my favorite interface (UI and API) and their commission free, but not DMA. they also don't offer futures, or margin trading crypto. I wish they were DMA and offered futures, as well as BTC perp futes

Comcast has a monopoly in a lot of neighborhoods and they save money by turning off their services. Long Comcast.

Liberation day tariffs come into effect

EU and Canada retaliatory tariffs on US

Inflation rising again

Economy is cooling with lower consumer spending all but confirming stagflation

My puts are going to print

So i mean this stuff is just ramping up. I would say shorting Tesla is probably the best investment right now. This Elon guy keeps doing stuff to piss everyone off. FSD will never happen without LiDAR or radar, that alone was the biggest mistake in the history of self driving. You got waymo out there just nailing it, people that have access to waymo much prefer it over uber and Lyft. Tesla is in deep poopoo with the fake FSD can thing. They are going to try it in Austin or something this summer, going to be a disaster without LiDAR.

VWRL (50%)

This is a globally diversified stock ETF, covering developed and emerging markets. It's got good exposure to a wide range of companies, so you're essentially betting on the world economy, which is generally a smart move if you're in it for the long haul.

VEVE (25%)

This is focused on developed markets outside of North America (mostly Europe and Asia). You're getting more international exposure here, which is good for balancing out the VWRL’s mix. You're diversifying away from the U.S. market, which is important if you're worried about overexposure to one region.

VHYL (25%)

This ETF focuses on high dividend-paying stocks, primarily in developed markets. If you’re after income through dividends or want to hedge against volatility, this is a good choice. It’s a solid defensive play, but be mindful that it may not be as growth-oriented as the others.

My thoughts:
You’ve got good global diversification across developed and emerging markets, along with a nice tilt towards high dividend yield with VHYL. The only potential issue is that you’re a bit heavy on developed markets (since VWRL and VEVE overlap in that space), so depending on your risk tolerance and time horizon, you might consider adding more emerging market exposure or adjusting the balance slightly to better reflect your investment goals.

But overall, this looks like a pretty solid, low-maintenance portfolio if you're in it for the long term and don't mind some fluctuations.

What’s your time horizon and risk tolerance? Are you looking for more growth or income in the future? That might tweak things a bit.

Its down in major cities where theres multiple options. People won't put up with 12 hour outages when they can get starlink also.

LiDAR gets people killed anon. Its VERY dangerous tech for the road. I had a lawyer that represented a family cause his bmw self drove into oncoming semi-truck cause lidar system decided to randomly avoid driving into nothing.
Lidar/radar is dumb, if it worked than animals/evolution would make more use of it. It works in some situations like Elon says.

Can someone explain to me how to buy treasuries like I'm stupid? I have a chunk of change that I want to do something with for the first time. Thanks in advance

Buy the stock called TLT or TMF.

But be warned, it's down right now.

response

I was copying and pasting the reddit post he was referring to.

it doesn't matter, things change daily.

I've heard smarter people than me say that t-bills are best until after market settles down and rate hiked are through, but opportunity for growth is limited right? Would a 4-5% apy be functionally similar? I want to buy stocks but it doesn't seem like a good time.

Based coma anon.

I want my money back

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T-bills have various durations -
"What are the maturity terms for Treasury bills?
Among bills auctioned on a regular schedule, there are six terms: 4 weeks, 6 weeks, 8 weeks, 13 weeks, 17 weeks, 26 weeks, and 52 weeks."

You can buy them direct from the Treasury and set your account to continuously roll over for the same duration until you stop it, you can buy direct through your broker (both examples you own the t-bill), your broker has a MM that consists of various t-bills and you can buy and sell when you want. Many options

I'm planning on buying PUTs for the first time on Monday. I've never done option trading before. Is this retarded? I'm attempting to reduced risk from tarrif announcements and earnings reports coming up in the next 3 weeks.

Tesla will never scale up electric vehicle manufacturing and compete with traditional car manufacturers

Reusable rockets will never be viable and SpaceX will go bankrupt

(You are here)

FSD will never happen without LiDAR or radar

Never bet against Elon because time and time again he has proved doubters wrong. The proof is right there but armchair analysts with no background knowledge in the industry think they know better than him.

don't just buy a naked put, you're not smart enough for that. consult the rookie strategies in this link instead (which has mysteriously disappeared from the OP copy-paste):
optionsplaybook.com/

So what’s green on Monday?

nothing

I'm around 70% tbills (4 week) and 30% between gld and paas. Tbills are my constant 4.3% and gld and paas I'm up 7% and 12% respectively. I see gold at 3500 min eoy and who fucking knows about silver, I'd like 50 though. The market was going to crash before tariffs. For years it's been propped up. Nothing goes up forever, if you're smart a buying opportunity of a lifetime awaits at the end.

Everyone who actually understands trump is either in shorts or in cash (for now) and are mostly out to lunch because they already know what’s going to happen.
This only leaves confused redditards to post here who are trying to read the bones of msnbc and sneeding alpha news articles.

digits and markets crash to zero for years to come and the man comes around on judgement day in 2030

he's not fully porting to puts next week

gamestop might be green.

Berkshire B, unironically.

forthcomings

3x bear etfs

Everyone knows markets hate uncertainty and all trump has done has caused uncertainty. It's clearly his fault and I wouldn't be surprised if we enter a 3 year bear market. Nobody wants to buy stocks when you know trump could make a retarded tweet 20 minutes later and cause mass sell offs

futures

HOLY FUCK

HOLY SHIT EVERYONE GET OUT OF THE STOCK MARKET QUICK

Now's the best time to get in

I'm worried futures will go back up during the night.

I don't get why so many people didn't sell. Trump announced the stock market crash ahead of time for everyone to get out the door. He even went as far as naming day of the crash for everyone to remember it.

Greenland does not want to be a part of the United States. If trump wants Greenland he has no other option but force

gold

It's hard to overstate how incredibly difficult it would be to trigger a hot war between western countries.

The last 80 years were an abnegation that has now been brought to a permanent end.
Historically speaking, it is very very easy to get western countries to make war in each other as they have been doing so constantly for at least the last 3500 years, with more recent archialogical evidence suggesting mass organised warfare was taking place as far back as 5000 years ago
The evidence in question includes a bracelet from a culture that only existed in Spain which was found in a battlefield dig at a river crossing in northern Germany , suggesting the presence of foreign mercenaries in the battle and control of a trade route as the disputed objective - both important signs that we are looking at organised, state level war and not some tribal border skirmish.

No anon, they were qualified experts attempting to stop him crashing the economy
Now that they're gone, the economy is crashing because there is no one left willing to tell trump "no"

tomorrows gonna be bad

Genuine question for stocks fags why the hell don’t you just day trade or swing trade forex with a solid strategy to make some decent cash instead of putting up with the dumpster fire that is the stock market these days?

they're not that bad, significantly higher than where I thought they'd open and recovering strongly

Everyone is rushing for the exits. The real drop is going to start. Probably another 10% down.

they were qualified experts

are you seriously that retarded or just funn'n with me?

dumpster fire

I can make money on dumpter fires. I do not trade every day, I wait for the obvious opportunity to exploit. I just shit post while I am watching and waiting.

The evidence speaks for itself

experts in place to limit trumps retardation

Economy doesn't crash

no experts in place to limit trumps retardation, just mindless sycophants who unquestioningly obey his every whim

Economy crashes
The only reason you don't see it is because you refuse to look, your TDS has blinded you to objective reality and historical fact.

For a few minutes, it was still showing the difference including Friday's losses, so they were like -3%

Trump serves russian jews and is speed running the economy into a depression like a tranny at gdq

TDS has blinded you

I don't vote nor donate money. I just watch the retardation from a distance so I have no bias. You must be young and not seen this cycle repeat over and over. The programming is very good. Tell fools to buy Tesla cars they scream with joy and do so. Tell the fools to hate Tesla cars the scream in anger and start attacks against cars. Which retard are you?

We should do negative tariffs where we pay companies to import Chinese made products.

I have no bias.

Your bias is so intense it has blinded you to the indisputable fact that trump is ruining the US economy
You are in a cult, dismissing any and all criticisms of your cult leader out of hand and then retroactively attempting to justify those descisions to preserve your belief in the leaders infallibility
You have TDS, your obsession with the man has blinded you to objective reality and historical fact

Every time futures open with this much action they go back up before open. So tiresome.

The economy has been toast since we went off the gold standard. Nothing trump is doing is the cause for this catastrophe. All he has done is rip the bandoff and let everyone know it will be painful. Globalism doesn't work. People aren't equal. Cultures can't mix. Simple as that. Btw how come retards like you complain about losing money when all you fucking had to do was put it in certain commodities or tbills and ride the shit storm out. 4 week tbills are at 4.3%, gld is up 14% this year and 44% in a years time, paas is up 14% on the year. Blame yourself for not pivoting not trump. I'll give all you retarding niggers a bone, gold will go to 3500 and past, silver 50 and past. Easy money if you understand that. Yes btc could do better but I don't follow crypto and have no idea what it will do.

sunday's almost over
let's make big gains this week
but i'm not too hopeful
it already feels bleak

trump is ruining the US economy

oh I see your not biased. You are a demonstration of TDS, carry on.

Donald Trump has said he is "very angry" and "pissed off" with Russian President Vladimir Putin after weeks of attempting to negotiate a ceasefire in Ukraine.

"If Russia and I are unable to make a deal on stopping the bloodshed in Ukraine, and if I think it was Russia's fault - which it might not be... I am going to put secondary tariffs... on all oil coming out of Russia," he said.

"There will be a 25% tariff on oil and other products sold in the United States, secondary tariffs," Trump said, noting that the tariffs on Russia would come in a month without a ceasefire deal. Secondary tariffs are sanctions on countries that do business with another country. They could constitute up to 50% on goods entering the US from countries still buying oil from Russia. The biggest such buyers by a long margin are China and India.

Bharatbulls...

major gap down as 24hour fake market opens

Yeah we’re seeing Aug 2024 price levels this week. Circuit breaker Tuesday pre market calling it now

tranime pedo

Trump shills on overdrive explaining how the indexes dropping 2000 points in a month is actually a good thing kek

being all cash is fucking boring

buttcoin isn't doing so bad so i don't think tomorrow will be too bad

why would you do that? trying to time the macro dip perfectly or something? why not just take shorter term trades for now?

I'm still too scared to do options even though they might be the only way to make money in the coming bear market. Guess it might be time to sell everything and sit on cash until the market bottoms out.

Is it really a loss if you're investing long term?

is it actually 2022 instead of 2021 the elites are gonna cause a revolt when people see tomorrow

I also don't get all the anti-capitalists and "eat the rich" people are suddenly freaking out over a market correction. Many now seem to think the market is the economy.

Buy the dip and invest in dividend stocks?

This is much more than a market correction we are going much lower

dropping 2000 points in a month is actually a good thing

its a sale for me

Japan stocks slump nearly 4% as fresh Trump tariffs due this week keep investors jittery

cnbc.com/2025/03/31/asia-markets-live-asia-markets-set-to-fall.html

It's gonna be a bloodbath!

tranime pedo

you have defeated me with your intelectual superiority. Take the victory with pride.

How about when it keeps dropping another 2000 points? BULZ and similar leveraged ETFs are already at August levels signaling if support gets broken here we are going much lower

SOXL TQQQ SPYU FNGU shit is fucked across the board

JNUG is the only safe thing right now, long gold

How about when it keeps dropping another 2000 points?

Even better. The discount get bigger. Look to an actual crash as an opportunity, not a problem.

Reminder the S&P is still up 120% from 5 years ago. Even with this correction, we're still firmly in nothingburger territory because stock performance has been so batshit insane the past several years.

nikkei down -4%

how over is it, on a scale of 1 to 10?

nikkei down -4%

paper hands gonna fret a few percent. Did you not trim the rip to have some cash to buy back the crash?

Even with this correction, we're still firmly in bubble territory

ftfy
No, a company like Apple with slowing growth isn't worth a P/E multiple of 35. SPY will be tempting if it crashes another 50%.

just bought a monthly bear put spread on nikkei
expect a violent pump
i'm 50% cash

invest in inverse ETF's, VIXY, and Defensive stocks, and you should be able to make it out ok.

I hope it recovers. I was really happy for the JP bros when the nikkei finally hit a new ATH last year after 30 years of being dead, and I doubt the tariffs are gonna rip them a new asshole anyway. They might get caught in the crossfire a little bit with the auto tariffs for example, but the US and Japan are very friendly with each other.

This is true. I strongly agree it fully deserves to drop another 20%, but I also like to point out that the "market is crashing" fags are completely out of line, because we are indeed still way on top of a massive bubble.

the nikkei ATH was because of 0 interest rates and yen devaluation
it only goes down now

Starting to recover

Nature is healing

lower prices is a good thing retard

buffet bros....
I still don't know why he made such a hard pivot to Japan

deserves to drop another 20%

only late 2022 it was 356, would like to see it hit ~400

SPY -0.70%

NASDAQ -1.15%

Lmfao you copin, bruh? rly?

Tickers
BIL
SHV
or go straight to treasurydirect.gov/marketable-securities/treasury-bonds/
Buying from treasurydirect has the best tax advantages.
Ladder 1, 3, 6, and 1 year bills ftw.
When they payout roll them over.
Don't listen to Stick to short term bonds in etf or direct for steady constant gains without risk of ups and downs.

Stick to short term *bills

What are the odds we can hit 30K on the DOW by Friday?

The bottom of the covid dip was 5 years ago, if you pick a less disingenuous timeframe the returns become less insane

SPY closed 2019 at 321.86 and 2024 at 586.08. This is only a CAGR of 12.73%, that's historically above average but still plausible

this

JNUG is the only safe thing right now, long gold

you have downsyndrome

Nothing disingenuous about it; the instantaneous covid recovery was completely unjustified in itself and a massive stroke of good fortune that bulls should be thankful for. Instead they're losing their shit over a 10% correction. And keep in mind there was even a year long bear market in the time period you cited, and then another year for it to reach a new ATH, and still it comes out to 12.73%, still above average. Absolutely logic-defying insane performance in the up years.

"All of them," Trump said when asked in AF1 gaggle how many countries he'll target with reciprocal tariffs, not just 10-15 countries

holy based
but seriously where is gary cohn to steal documents when you need him?

Bloumpf is such a bubbling cretin, i love it. We can't get bored with this guy in charge.

henlo mister jerome
pls do something to halp

I agree with you that bulls shouldn't be losing their minds over this correction, especially since they've had more than enough opportunity to make money the past few years, but when you discount the cagr for the inflation we saw it's really not that impressive.

12% cagr when CPI peaked at 9% and is still at 3% is not absurd. We may see below average returns in the next few years to bring it back to its mean but we're not even close to being a bubble

Thanks Anon. I pieced together most of the intro, but the section on the Greeks was very informative.

This Elon guy keeps doing stuff to piss everyone off

Why do you reddit subhumans think you represent all americans?

yeah, some real "buy my book, retards" going on

It's literally over tomorrow isn't it bros
youtube.com/watch?v=V9ZOhgl0GoQ&ab_channel=TomWaits

If Japan is of any indication yes we are completely btfo

Orange man bad

JNUG up over 60% ytd yet I am the dumb one

Makes sense

We will see a continued move to gold as a safe haven asset while everything else craters, 3500/oz this year is a realistic possibility

what i learned from experience is that you only buy naked puts/calls when you have high confidence that the underlying will go in your direction very soon, and you're supposed to sell when it does, before you start getting raped by time decay
buying a put and then selling a put at a lower price (spread) is less risky because you get some money back from the other put you sell but your max profit will be capped. spreads aren't as affected by time decay (if the market goes deep into your expected direction it even works in your benefit) so you can hold them till expiration depending on the situation
if it's your first time i'd suggest going for a spread so you have less risk (and less reward), but if you're absolutely sure the market will drop then a naked put is better

sayonara

Why to MAGAts think they represent all conservatives?

These companies are retardedly overvalued. It’s not a big deal for them to crash or even go bankrupt and in fact I would love to see it.
See: the entire history of any stock market you little baby.

cultists
gonna
cult

markets crash

HODL ON we're gonna crash

thinking its going to recover

before 2040

Stop replying to yourself.

futures

being

this

schizonoidarded

Go back.

According to the administration they have to create at the bare minimum a recession to fix the country. Wouldn't a depression so great it makes the previous one look like a minor blip make the future economy even better?

a volatile market is volitale

literal nothing burger

MAGATS refuse to acknowledge the orange cheeto is killing the world economy

Cope harder magatard

Sweet jap brides are getting cheaper. Thank you Trump!

Thanks for the advice. I'll look into the spread. Although something here isn't adding up. I feel like there are 2 things talked about here: buying put options, short selling/naked puts. As far as I understand it, buying puts is relatively safe. The max loss is the premium you paid. If the stock goes up, your put loses value as the theta decays, until finally it's worthless. If the stock goes down beyond the break even point, you profit. It being one of the safest ways to bet against the market, or reduce risk against an event you're worried about, without just liquidating your position.

Short selling/selling naked puts exposes you to unlimited loss as the stock goes the opposite direction you expect. It is one of the most dangerous way to bet in the market, and usually requires margin enabled on your account and you have to apply on Fidelity to a higher tier to access this. I'm looking into the first option by placing an order to "buy to open" a put.

you have to trim shrubs
to get them to grow moar
so maybe just
chopping the whole shub down
will make it grow
the moast

just think
of all the dip buyers
there will be
at SPX $3.50

even China is down bigly

yeah I'm thinking -3% on the SP500 tomorrow

They are different tools with different advantages. I lost money shortinf carvana by buying puts. On a stock like that the IV is too high where unless you can time it perfectly you will burn money, but short selling it would be free money as long as you don't put yourself on the edge of a margin call.

cnbc asia
just talked about
circuit breakers
being ready
in some of their
markets

fuckin bring it...85% cash rn and im willing to donate plasma for more

1PBTID

Epic. Simply epic.

zoom out
japan is always up and down

here's the difference between buying a single put vs buying a put spread on TSLA for example. you basically choose the risk (in this case the premium, or premium difference) you're willing to take
as you can see there is more risk in buying a single put - you are willing to bet $1.5k on this trade
vs with this spread you pay $400, but your max profit would be $500
you can adjust the spread prices so that it matches the risk profile you're happy with and the prices you think it will go to
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Short selling/selling naked puts exposes you to unlimited loss

yes, you should never sell naked puts/calls (i.e., not a spread) ever. only as part of a multi-leg strategy (like this spread above) so that the total risk of the trade is defined

Goldman Sachs raises the possibility of a recession in the next 12 months from 20% to 35%

Chinese purchasing reports come out way better than expected

HS still sharts itself

mumus in for an unpleasant surprise tomorrow morning

How many pink wojaks in tomorrow's threads?

Ah, I see. Thanks Anon. I'll just have to try it and see if this pays off.

Only 35%? Thought it would be higher with this nonsense.. Depression at this rate

Realistically, although the downturn has been sudden, it hasn't been unpredictable nor incorrigibly swift in its descent so while it might seem bad, JPow's report provided a lot of stabilizing for the fear because they deemed it transitory. So unless we get like -10% or some wild shit this week from the big aggregates, it's still just a matter of waiting on the tariffs and letting water seek its level.

That's assuming of course that Trump doesn't keep fucking around with em.

if the nikkei keeps crabbing around -4% 99% of the thread

most likely we will crab-dump today, be a little volatile tomorrow, then megapump on wednesday when tariffs kick in just to screw your shorts, then pump again until friday, then next week the recession begins
screencap this

Fuck, I bought 40 shares of VOO on Friday. I hate Trump so much.

I suspect they're applying a little bit of magical thinking and assuming *surely* trump will moderate tariffs in the face of political and economic headwinds in keeping it lowish
that and as
noted powell definitely was sounding bullish in everything being transitory

longing

while TROOMP

isnt b&

from poosting

to soocial medias

blood bath in asia, thanks trump

Forgot one important thing

Inverse Cramer unless he makes sense, then check your head and reevaluate

FINALLY

not being over
is over

ITS
OVER

its over

the not
being over
is over

its

over

its

over

Inverse Cramer unless he makes sense

this fool is paid to lie

Nikkei down 4%, that's pretty crisp.

Trump: Tariffs to commence with all countries worldwide, no exemption

HOLY SHIT april 2nd are you ready?

it takes two weeks unironically for them to collect dues

You are beating him, right anon?

blood bath in asia

the end is just beginning

Im actually impressed with its pace. Bear markets usually take like 6-9 months for a total downturn of 25-50%. This one is getting along pretty quickly. We may be down and out of this by august if were in bear market. Rip that band aid off. only 15-20% more to go.

fock

if the SP500 dips below 5k and inverts on the yearly before Q3 ends, then I will buy in on the crack the JDPon Don schizos have been selling
til then I'll believe it when I see it

You are beating him, right anon?

If you actually listen to what the retard "says" through is constant slurring and wheezing he rarely gives any specific statements, he give vague slurring moans which he later says was a buy or sell after he sees what the price did. Same thing as goldman sachs or JP morgan who put out multiple statements from multiple "analysts" saying a stock is going and and down, then later they say there were right if the stock went down the just point to the one analyst that said something about a weakening price. Same shitty scam game they always plays. If Cramer knew anything he would not have to cheat to make money, like he admitted to doing. I bought ARLP in about early October because Cramer said he would not chase the dividend, it trended up for about 4-5 months, then Cramer said ARLP was ripe for a turn around so I sold it late January, and it trended down from the high.

Ayo we fenna get raw dogged for awhile.

AGI went from 40 to 90

feel poorer than ever

Because no one cares what you cultists think
Everyone who isn't in the cult hates you and disregards your opinions as a result

get raw dogged for awhile.

ahhhh where is the circuit breaker

another 2 years of this

noooo don't tariff China

their economy will dump into a near depression again!!!!

Trump: Yes.

futures down

bonds down

oil down

asia down

eu will be down

gold up

/pmg/ won bigly I fear

what games do you guys play while you wait for shit to pop off?

russian roulette

A few different gachas. All made by the Chinese of course.

Imagine how comfy it must be to have bought put options right about now.

I think I wll just sell my shares premarket kek, its over

TSLA premarket

Appearing on Fox News, Navarro said the president’s tariffs on auto imports, set to take effect Wednesday, would raise $100 billion per year. Meanwhile, a regime of additional tariffs — details of which have yet to be released — would raise another $600 billion per year, or $6 trillion over the next decade, Navarro said.

lmao, cough up goy, we need to hedge against inflation from the tax cuts for the wealthy. Absolutely FELL for it hahahaha.

I know hobbies have expenses but looking a red line go down is getting quite expensive. I could have just bought booze or a new computer instead.

dont check polish stocks market kek

do you even pay taxes?

Fiddle dee dee, this will require an Article V.

over the next year

over the next decade

None of this is lasting two months. Anon Babble media can't help themselves portraying any of these things as long term instead of the part bluff part pointy stick to jew some small improvements to existing trade agreements (nevermind that many of these can't stay in place without house/senate backing).

IT'S BLOODY RED IN EUROPE!!

German retail sales report smashed expectations

DAX still down 1%

t.the same dumb fuck who was certain trump wouldn't do tariffs in the first place

Chew you havisfaction a singlicious satisfact to snack that up?

BLACK MONDAY IS UPON US
WILL YOU BUY OR WILL YOU PERISH

ooo boy tsla looked pretty rough overnight but it's picking up speed back to >260
think itll pop or drop at open?

I think I will close everything but after this it will be a good opportunity to buy on the dip. Problem is idk when will be the best dip

you know you don't have to buy everything at once? spred it out along upcoming week, it should cut down on potential losses
the biggest dip should come tomorrow, once the tariffs hit we just don't know if the market will go full bear or start going bullish again

should have joined the iberdrola bubble long ago, that line will go up forever I feel

premarket is up

TSLA -4%already

ITS OVER
I REPEAT, ITS OVER AAAAAAIEEEEEE

premarket is up

What market is blud watching?

Muh art of the deal

For how long are you going to keep coping?

I really hope those anons that were crying about losing money shorting tesla didn't sell

Hang Seng recovered nearly half of its drop today so it probably won't be that bad for US markets as was initially perceived.
I admittedly was expecting a much redder Monday. Maybe Donald can hit the ol' truth social with a good ol' Truth o' Doom (tariff tweet) fresh in the morning'

The Global Economy is getting Fucked!

the real crash will happen on april 2nd when people realise this time he's not pranking them, from then on it should gradually go down until autumn at least

this is unironically the end bros im losing so much money

I don't think there will be anymore significant a crash come Tuesday. I expected the biggest "drop" to be today and then for the remainder of the time this week to crab until the markets settle on what the potential is of the tariffs and picks a direction, which could be either way depending on all the retaliatory stuff that is to come. That of course excludes the fact, perhaps naively so, that Donny might change his mind whenever for whatever reason but that is like predicting the rain it's just not worth toiling over, you're better off just having an umbrella ready.

Waiting for a dead cat bounce to do some daily short, but seems like it's just gonna keep going down today.. Hm..

60% vs waiting for soxl to dip to $10 and making like 300%, you are the dumb one

bend over and open your anuses SOXLdiers!

the whole market depends on orange man tweeting or not tweeting something

what a healthy market

NIFTY up

bharatbros we are so back

I'm here for a fun time, not a long time baby

Weren’t the tariffs priced in?

they were
it's just that the market doesn't know it yet

The bluffing was priced in.

The tariffs themselves weren't.

after auto tariffs were priced in, orang announced new ones

priced in

they're scaled back

no wait we're actually making them higher

they only apply to a few countries

or maybe universal ;)

how the fuck do you price that in lmao

according to chartexchange no one is short tsla right now

futures

Man I was gonna sell this Tesla put today, but it's so tempting to just keep it until this week is over

"Liberation day" is on wednesday though, so what is this just the teaser?

Get knocked out of my two position in the EU

Buttmad about losing money but also relief that I'm no longer holding bags for when Trump is going to skullfuck the market on Liberation day.
Gonna experiment with some reverse stop losses in the meantime.

Le Pen convicted

Baguettebros... It's over.

Le Froguette c'est fini

convicted

for what?

Embezzlement of EU funds.

Le Pen was accused, along with more than 20 other senior party figures, of hiring assistants who worked on her RN party affairs rather than for the European Parliament which paid them.

It´s total bs, it´s an open secret in Europe that parties that get into the European parliament hire assistants with EU funds that work on domestic party affairs half the time despite being hired for EU work.

honestly Le Pen has choked so many times the right could use someone besides her as their standard barer. problem is they haven't really cultivated anyone besides Bardella to some extent, but I'm not sure if he's ready

Is this a good time to get into stocks? What should I buy right now and what are good calls to buy also to make a quick buck? I currently have no investments i left couple years ago but now I’m back

go all in on 0dte calls for biotech penny stocks with earnings this week
do it

I hope USA crashes and burn even if we go down with you, fucking retarded fat fucks

wait for bigger dip, then buy, Im selling to cut loses, but it depends on what you wan to call

Everyone and their mother is going to buy puts and shorts before Liberation day, which is exactly why it is so scary to do the same. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if Trump rugpulls everyone by saying; "Oops, changed my mind again :^)"

also unsure if im holding my put or selling.

Making America great again. One destroyed portfolio at a time

Shouldn´t have sent an orange man to do a white mans job.

He’s going to change his mind, change my mind

it would be very funny

I don't think anyone expected a universal 20% to become the policy. Especially when the administration has done nothing to signal what it's actually going to do which is bad practice for industry.

That basically fucks over everyone - it's not targeted 'art of le deal'. It doesn't matter if you do what Trump wants or never had a deficit, and to make it worse it's completely erratic so tomorrow it might be 25% or Trump might win a round of golf and decide to give carve outs again.

Give it a week or two. Don't try and predict the bottom.

this is what i'm thinking, i was gonna buy puts but everyone is extremely bearish so i'm thinking buying cheap calls for the scampump instead

I got the same fears, which is why I'm not touching anything before atleast Thursday.

Why wont you touch GLD though?

that's actually also what I believe as a bear. I think there might be a retarded pump coming, but eventually will dump anyways. It's not like it didn't happen both last fridays. We dumped on data everybody already knew

Help a nigga out please. Ive never traded vix, how high should I wait for it to go until I buy a put, and how many days should it have until expiration?

Typically, when shorting a stock, you want the price of the stock to be higher than the strike price of which you personally value the stock. Thusly, you should short the stock at a price you deem reasonably higher than the price you assume the stock will move to in the event, such that, you believe the stock will fall in price. Under such circumstances, it is then pertinent to set a date in time of which you think the price is high and will be moving downward, of which it may then have a point where you feel such a trend will cease and potentially, though not necessarily, change direction. In so far as this is concerned, you can then adequately short such a stock it you perceive it to be unreasonably high and such that you believe under certain terms that it will move in a downward trend to achieve a more equitable evaluation of the stock in your estimations of time and value. Therefore, your option to short should be constructed in such a way to follow a strategy of therein a high price that you surmise will move down, which would be a loss in stock price thusly coming closer to your desired strike price, and within a timeframe you calculate adequate.

This isn't Anon Babble and your ESL is showing, Pablo.

So, how long until there's blood in the streets

God bless you dementia don!

being +50% on tsla puts is really uncomfortable I must say

NEW

NEW

oh, i'm ready alright

we're still not at bump limit doe

Being scared of free money