FUCK MUTTS AND THE 25% TARRIF IS GOING TO KILL THE CANADIAN ECONOMY AND ALSO US ECONOMY AND LEAD TO A GLOBAL...

MY PINKIES STAY STINKY

Maybe all the Indians will go back

all the ~progressive conservative~ immigration loving retards here getting ass hurt over tarriffs
Hope he blasts this country hard

They already do.

he's not rotating into dollars and US manufacturing

Why of coarse I rotated myself. And America enjoyed it. I might even rotate a little more later.

Raking the leaves one tariff at a time

I sold some TSM for Tesla today. Might turn the rest into one of these.

Would be nice if he did the pipeline.
Tariffs don't have to be all or nothing.
Could you imagine? The tariffs on Canada but the pipeline has no tariffs, leading to a shitload of oil jobs for Canadian anons to make it from. And cheap oil for America and more oil jobs here too!
Win-win.

trumps taxes imported silicon

biden keeps the taxes and gives tens of billions of incentives to these guys

trump likely to keep taxing the imports and increase them

share prices are currently in lull

possible mini AI boom on the way

The future looks good for on-(US)-shore silicon

Esab and Lincoln produce commercial welding equipment; you need tools to do all this "making in america".

Smart thinking. Thanks foe the tips.

Nvidia and smci seem on the ropes. They're faking their books and selling at a discount.what makes you think they're not going to tank silicon manufacture for a year when it finally breaks down

Highly doubt they're faking their books. Wolfspeed just.got in.trouble for that , but i still bought some.

Of course you CAN, but are you willing to get paid as much as a mexican while doing it?

It's pure hype. Nvidjya doesn't produce any of its own silicon but is valued at over 3.5 trillion due to the AI hype.

Intel owns its own plants and investing tens of billions more in onshore manufacturing. Yet is valued at 100 billion. The others (samsung and micron) are doing likewise.

Obviously vidjya gamers won't shut up about nvidjya currently but the bubble is definitely going to pop for nvidjya. Intel might not have been doing so well with the last few generations of cpus and vidjya cards but it's inevitable that the AI buzz is going to rotate round to other manufacturers; amd and Intel are already on it.

I've specifically picked micron, samsung and Intel because they're largest recipients of grants (by quite a long way) and are investing it in US plants.

America has spent about half a century offshoring big sections of production in general. I'm anticipating that reversing over the coming years; e.g. the US currently only makes 8% of its own chips, and that's up from previous years.

There are other things happening quietly in the background; e.g. the US is gradually starting to block more and more semiconductor manufacturing tool exports to China.

TSMC is obviously a big player but trump has previously mentioned that he's not happy with the level of dependency the US has on them.

It's also becoming more of a requirement that at least some of this stuff is made onshore; e.g. any chips used for military or government applications (data centres etc).

The suppliers are faking the books but the end manufacturers and distributors are... not faking their books?

Where is all the extra silicon going?

Nice, so will you stop importing cheap slave labor then? It is a notable hypocrisy, you import these slaves, then later complain about their presence.

Intel and Samsung are losing money on their chip manufacture and their shareholders are spooking management

I agree manufacture will slowly shift to america. But it takes a decade or more to start making money and consumption is likely to decline. So I am not sure what you would base your own decision to invest on

This. We did it in the 1950s. Back when McCarthy was trying to get rid of all the trannies and Marxist Hollyjews. Back when Americans helped each other, built TV and Auto factories. Rockabilly, doo-wop music was based, cars were all eye candy, girls were cute, trad and hot like picrel. N-wordz knew their place. You could leave your cars and homes unlocked. Fuck. I wanna go back!

Raise the wage so that legal citizens will take the job or automate it out.
Slavery held back the first industrial revolution and indentured servitude is holding back the fourth.

losing money on their chip manufacture

They are currently. And their share prices are low.

But I doubt it's going to remain that way going forwards. Pretty much every republican and democrat has been going on about bringing manufacturing back on shore. Specifically mentioning silicon.

It won't happen overnight but the general shift is looking that way and they're busy building the stuff now. Intels $28 billion fab is due to start production next year.

Samsung can't do it because Taiwan does it cheaper

America probably can't do it because of joggers and regulations. I can't see trump making joggers smarter desu. I also can't see him making it legal to not hire them.

What's your thesis for dealing with illiterate joggers making airplanes explode? Boeing hasn't even started reforming their basketball American staff.

idgaf my bitcoin pumped

STOP IMPORTING PAJEETS AND SENDING THEM SOUTH INTO THE US THEN FAGGOT.

Opfag's concerns are realistic, they complained about inflation and cost of living and then voted for the candidate with extremely inflationary proposals.

lol US don't need shitty import products from canada or mexico

Ameritards demand a certain quantity of products at a certain price, you cannot just switcha-roo in one administration to become a major isolationist economy; and if you try, the consequences of being the only isolationist economic country on the world stage is that you WILL fall behind China. Mutts will claim they hate globalism, but your economy lives and dies on importing foreign goods. Like it or not you ARE a globalist economy and changing that without dethroning the USD as the reserve currency will take decades of slow and steady shifting.

Raise the wage so that legal citizens will take the job or automate it out.

YOU will pay for this wage increase then complain that the economy he inherited is the reason prices are increasing.

Don't worry, Blumpf will be bringing in yuge numbers of Pajeets, more Pajeets than you've ever seen before.

N-noooo you have to import slave laboooor or the price of fresh produuuuce will go up...!!!

Enjoy the tariffs, faggot!

murricans with an IQ over 110 know all this

but most voters are as dumb as Anon Babble users
it's ok, if trump gets his way his followers are going to be exiled for stupidity after the economy shits itself. This is literally how we started the great depression.

Tariffs aren't inflationary you retarded faggot. No one who can read a fucking book thinks this. Exporter countries compete on price and lowering price. They pocket the difference. Universal tariffs force them to universally lower their prices, and then the profits go to the importer nations

China has the most tariffs in the world and I guarantee you there is no inflation there and shit is cheap as fuck

Stupid fucking retarded liberal can't read a fucking book

The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act, also known as the Tariff Act of 1930, was a law that raised import duties on agricultural and industrial goods in the United States. The law was sponsored by Senator Reed Smoot and Representative Willis C. Hawley, and signed into law by President Herbert Hoover on June 17, 1930.

The Smoot-Hawley Tariff was intended to help American farmers by raising prices on agricultural imports. However, the tariff was a disaster and is often cited as a leading cause of the Great Depression:

dude the 50s was a one off thing and its not happening again. you were on top cause the rest of the world got rekt by ww2 while you were unscathed

not just unscathed, we ramped up industry times a thousand and then demanded reparations and sweet sweet trade alliances

We've been living large off that win for decades.

Are you like, a retarded melanated individual? Prices were low because of OVERSUPPLY and if you examine the thesis of price discovery, depressions result from OVERINVESTMENT in inefficient businesses. The businesses overinflated in things that sold for too little money, creating a situation where profit was impossible. Tariffs are completely unrelated

Prices were TOO LOW in the depression. You are saying tariffs are going to RAISE Prices jn the same way that happened in the great depression. Can you fucjing count you fucking basketball lover?

Fucking coalburners I swear

Cope. Europe had exactly 20 years of prosperity after the war before you fucking retards increased taxes to total 70 percent of gross income and collapsed upon yourselves.

Europe never even accepted the ideas of price discovery or deregulation of research

I only know what actually happened

we raised tariffs and the economy went to complete shit for a decade.

you explain it in your head however you have to. Back in the real world Trump is just making threats no economist on either side will let him follow through on.

You're admitting you don't know how to count?

You said tariffs raise prices and cause a depression. Tariffs LOWERED prices during the great depression

You can't count

Hey nigger if you didn't know japan and china already have 25 percent tariffs against America. It didn't fucking destroy them

Fucking niggerlovers. Get out of my country

are you new here?
welcome to Anon Babble

the green text means I'm quoting someone else.
pathetic little dumbass

what the quoted text said was tariffs were SUPPOSED to raise prices and didn't.

Are you a nigger or a bot? You quoted the act to make a point. And I am telling you you can't count. Because it did the opposite of what you claim. Fucking niggers.

Because it did the opposite of what you claim.

learn to read, stupid bitch

if you didn't know japan and china already have 25 percent tariffs against America

China has few regulations and their working conditions are shit thats why its profitable for the US to buy cheap shit from China, you can take the high road while taking advtantage of cheap labour. you want both cheap prices and great salaries/conditions for workers. not happening. as for japan their economy is in the dumps

You have to choose. Are they inflationary or not. My original claim was that they are NOT inflationary, and you said they caused the great depression.

Okay. How? By lowering prices? Do we have oversupply? If there is no oversupply then lowering prices can't cause a depression

Kill yourself with some purple drank and lean you fucking monkey

I'm whiter than you are, dumbass. You're the monkey here.

I don't know or care how the Smoot-Hawley tariffs caused the Great Depression. All I know is Trump won't be allowed to repeat the mistake.

How do you stupid niggers claim exploiting Chinese slave labor is the high road... but imposing penalties on slave labor is some sort of hypocritical stance?

I have never known anyone besides a spic or nigfer that can't count

No one is going to LET him do it. He is going to DO it because it is the obviously correct course of action for everyone except for the corrupt congressmen exploiting legal arbitrage to destroy their local competition and award free contracts to foreigners

Sorry burritobiu, you're all going back. Fucking savages

No one is going to LET him do it.

He's going to threaten to destroy our economy as a bargaining tactic

it's weird how many of his supporters have never read his book.

Sorry burritobiu, you're all going back. Fucking savages

I have 6 ancestors that fought in the revolutionary war, 2 that came here on the Mayflower, 4 that came here on the Mary and Joseph.

if anyone gets deported it won't be me or my family. Sorry. You're the new guy.

your brain is cooked you dumb monkey and you make attacks on claims that havent been made, work on your reading comprehension

Half of the gdp of japan and china is already reinvested into america. If their economies continue, they will invest MORE in america. There will be next to no economic impact you fucking retard

If you are white then fucking act like it and stop acting like some retarded nigger that spews bullshit from the television which somehow only became "valid knowledge" 5 years ago which no book ever in history has ever said

There is no high road. They are exploiting us. You clearly know nothing about trade flows

stop acting like some retarded nigger that spews bullshit from the television which somehow only became "valid knowledge" 5 years ago which no book ever in history has ever said

I'm over 60 years old

the Reed-Smoot Act was common education in the US when I was in school 40 years ago. It's strange nobody learns it now.

have a pic of my white hand holding my Great Great Grandfather's GAR pin. Do you kids know what GAR is?

They are exploiting us

jesus it's like we're not raising capitalists anymore

And clearly you were educated by people who thought Roosevelt was a good president

They are sucking money out of our country. We will suck money out of THEIR country with the same fucking policies they apply to us, you fucking rotting corpse of a boomer

I never disagreed with you. I personally think Alibaba and Temu need to be taxed into the ground.

But you're too stupid to understand that's not likely to happen as long as some americans are making billions off it.

And those Americans are going to be financially ruined. Why they oppose it so much. The tariffs work because there is nothing china and japan offer us that can't be bid even lower by Korea or Taiwan, or even thailand.

The nonsense that it can't work is pure retardation. If American money and investment wasn't what they were after they wouldn't be investing every dollar they make back into america, they'd be investing it into heir own dawned countries.

So instead they will pay US, and then we will invest in ourselves rather than paying them for the privilege of them robbing us. The on top they will give US a share of THEIR equity rather than them increasingly taking more of OUR equity.

There's no other play. The amount of money we will make is more than the useless bureaucrats are stealing in bribes from baba. They will lose. It is a drop in the bucket and that's why it's even more shameful it ever happened

They accept the Chinese money because they're financially illiterate and cannot run a business. They are parasites and they are destroying American bysinesses

yep

like I said

Trump will threaten to light our own economy on fire as a bargaining tactic

he won't do it. He can't do it.

but he'll threaten it.

I would love to see Trump impose tariffs on all our trade partners and watch the economy go down the drain.

but in real life he has 2 years to do anything before the US voters turn on him again. If he lives that long

as you said,
he's a

fucking rotting corpse of a boomer

and old enough to be my dad

hell, he's older than my dad.

He's holding a gun to the head of japan and china and Korea and Taiwan simultaneously. There will be no financial impact on anyone in america except for loke half of congress who are getting bribes from china.

Zero impact. Zero.

Japanese and Chinese and Korean wages will fall because they will need to maintain margins, and THEY will pay for the margins, not us. Because this is already their business model, except they impose the costs of inefficiency on us currently, but artificially lowering their currency and wages, and then getting us to pay for their R&D costs for free and stealing our tech, and then investing in our companies with zero taxes paid to maintain margins.

Now they have to pay for it. Zero. Impact. Their shift will be the same price but their people will be poorer

Zero. Impact.

again, I'm over 60 and Trump is older than my dad

He's going to do exactly nothing. They're not going to let him do anything

who is "they"?

good question, but they have far more money than little Trump does.

Damn, this chud is real coked up. Maybe find a good supplement to balance your hormones, you're going to burst an artery. Then touch grass (not financial advice).

I generally agree with his sentiment

I just don't share his childish optimist. Also I've read about Trump his entire career, so I remember he's a godless puppet dancing to his own whims and the hands that feed him.