How do you cope with not having gone to an elite school...

It unironically doesn't matter unless you're in law or politics.

medicine

Only your specialty matters. You can go to bumfuck nowhere U med school in surgury and make as much as an Ivy or Stanford grad.

business

All MBAs are scams. CEOs tend to be from random ass schools. That said, a top 10 MBA might get a midwit into an executive spot.

engineering

Engie chuds like to boast to their fellow wagies about muh Stanford muh Berkeley muh Princeton muh Cornell, me so smrt, only to make exactly the same as his coworker from shitfuck state U.

everything else

Doesn't matter, you're fucking poor. Unless you made connections at the Ivy which enable you to suck the right guy's dick.

the institutions themselves, although hallowed out and poisoned by greed and stupidity, still hold so much sway over the wealthy and powerful, who are the only people with any power

Two points for you, 1. Your viewpoint is very common amongst everyone I’ve talked to all across the IQ spectrum. When so many people know that college logically isn’t the best option for becoming educated but are too scared and complacent to do anything except keep buying inflated degrees, that is classic bubble psychology. So while I can respect education as a concept, I think the way college level education and its relation to the job market is handled is fundamentally wrong and “bubble-ish” at best.

2. I’ve made it my own goal to succeed without a college education, like many of the modern “tech bros” and many of the industrialists who were able to succeed without college who's viewpoints I really respect. My lived experience has actually been that it’s the poor/middle class people in the US who don’t respect you the most for not having a degree. Rich people and smart people don’t really seem to care and actually congratulate me for “making it” without a degree, it’s mostly the poor and working class who scoff at me or feel inadequate themselves for me succeeding despite not having a degree when I tell them. I felt strongly that I was helping the working class by proving that anyone could obtain knowledge and a career without going to college, but I’ve just had so many experiences where it’s again the lower classes who are chiding me and putting down my accomplishments that I’m not so sure anymore if most people actually want to be free to learn whatever they want, I think they actually want to buy themselves jobs not learn anything.

How did these schools come to be considered elite? Seed funding from Jews and masons plus fielding a couple of future presidents? That it?

This is one example but that school Bezos went too is said to be like brania central

I see what you're saying this is actually the most intelligent breakdown I've heard anybody make on this. What you're saying is the status obsession with schools is based on the striver psychology of the middle class whether lower or upper and this reinforces the predatory business models of the schools which creates the bubble around higher tier university education. It's a smokescreen of elitism that is at best pervasive among higher middle class, and gradually fades away among the wealthy. The miserable middle and lower middle class use their exclusion from these institutions as an excuse to explain to themselves why they don't have the courage to make it.
I would add that I think this is why you see status obsessed immigrant groups so enthralled with these places, such as Indians, Chinese, and Jews. For many people it is the only thing they have, so they defend the dominance of these institutions over knowledge to the death because it is a key component of their ego and identity.

Thank you for this, it's given me a lot of clarity. If I may ask, what field did you make it in? What resources would you recommend for furthering ones self education?

Status. As the other anon said you can educate yourself more thoroughly using an auto didactical method, but a piece of paper from one of these places gets you in the door for high level waging.

I also think over the past hundred years as American society has become more planned and controlled, these schools and their alumni have assigned themselves far more influence than they should have. It's a systemic issue. Henry Ford didn't make it past middle school.

I'm sure you can neet poorfag without a drivers license

Nta but after covid you can literally just watch university lectures for free on youtube/opencourseware/coursera, I self studied cryptography and got a job that way

Yes, I think you’re understanding what I’m saying very clearly, and I’m really glad you found it beneficial thank you. I think you put it into better words then I have with the last portion as well, people who are not smart or rich are obsessed with getting an “education” to “strive for better” as you said, despite not critically evaluating if that education is even worth it, which it is not IMO. And yes my lived experiences have been the upper class, while this prestige of college educations still exists in some sects I’m sure, by and large being “college educated” is not as important. Probably because they can buy their way through it if they want, it’s a choice not a necessity.

I’ve made it in finance, learning with the intention of being a life long learner has helped me, I’ve put together my own “big picture” which makes slotting in new knowledge extremely easy. With the internet you have direct access to industry papers and articles that you would only have had access to through a college 70 years ago, it’s a completely different ballpark to take advantage of modern learning aided by the internet.

This. My parents never pushed me to excel in academics or extracurriculars when I was growing up. They were too busy working.
I'll at least steer my kids in the right direction. If they can get into a Ivy league school, I'll even pay cash for their tuition (or more likely game the financial aid system).

It’s about IQ if you’re below 130 the look ahead bias doesn’t even fit here you’re just full of past hopium

Just trading or did you talk your way into jobs?

school is for dumb people tho.

I got 95th percentile SAT while high on weed, how do you explain Chris Langan who worked construction his whole life and had the highest IQ ever measured? How do you explain all of the people who get out of these places and are clearly retarded? Is Joy Reid high IQ?

I talked my way into jobs only yes, I’ve worked for investment banks and Hedge funds with just a GED. I’m not great at trading honestly.

So you just do analysis?

God won't care where I went to school, so I don't give a shit either.

You mean elite colleges that rely on college wagies slaving away to give the school “prestige” so they can sell overpriced degrees to rich people?

Colleges can get fucked, I can teach myself whatever I want.

Another uneducated fat disabled NEET loser. Let us men talk with each other

Pretty much every entry level at a bank or fund is an “analyst”. I specifically do operations/project management stuff from the US for institutional clients.

I think anon is proving you wrong. Obviously you still must be exceptional to succeed without college, but pointing out the clear flaws in the state of higher education doesn't necessarily make you a NEET or a loser.

I literally have a Harvard mba and it was a total waste of money. While it wasn’t my money it did indenture me to a firm for 3 years.

Not everyone at Princeton is Bezos (I've worked with several). I'd never claim that schools like Princeton don't have proportionally more smart people though.

Did you actually go there or was it online?

This is explicitly not a thread for fat NEET slobs and their kind. Begone!

I made the thread you fucking gorilla

You are a mere avatar of your subconscious. The meaning was expressed without ego interference.

Went there, lived in Boston for two years.

Did you find the experience if being at Harvard, the people you met, particularly valuable?

It’s literally just a networking circle jerk of finance bros, mgmt consultants, biotech with smattering of third worlders. Most of the women were there to find a husband. Like I said utter waste of time that I regret I should have just kept working. I did have dinner at James Carville’s house though. He’s a dick.

I went to a low ranked law school unaware of just how important it was to go to an elite school. But I got really good grades and opportunities opened up to me. I was able to get a very nice firm job right out of school, that doesn't pay the same as top firms, but still started me at $175k which is pretty good.

How do you cope with not having gone to an elite school?

But I did. Trust me, Harvard is shit. Yes, you rub shoulders with children of billionaires and foreign dictators and politically connected insiders. If that's your thing, well, good luck and fuck you. But the "education" at Harvard now consists of far-left indoctrination (which is great if you're a billionaire, dictator, or insider because that's what you're trying to perpetuate anyway).

If you actually want to learn useful skills, goddamn near anyplace else is better.

t. got the fuck out of Harvard because the people there were insufferable cunts

doesn't matter unless you're in law

Definitely agree on that one. Amy Coney Barrett is the first Supreme Court justice appointed to the bench in decades who wasn't from Yale, Harvard, or Stanford. That dominance is one reason the country is so fucked nowadays.

The most successful people don't even have degrees.

Harvard rejected him because he’s white

Yeah I figured that out after graduating from my mid ass school. Ok, I had no debt, but I worked two jobs through it all just for that. I was too busy smoking drugs and fighting in high school to make it into a good school anyways. I was sent away to a plumbing school actually because of that. The only reason I could be in any university is I went to a community college and didn't suck there. I'm getting out of the army soon and now I see this opportunity to do grad school somewhere fancy. I can pay the out of pocket costs easily, and with my scores and background I stand a decent chance at getting through.
It's good you made this thread because I've been kinda wrestling with the idea.
Spend $60k on an ivy, or go anywhere else and bag $60k instead from GI bill excess? Seems like a wasted opportunity to snag some cheap prestige.
I'm genuinely autistic btw. I would be going for an MBA in accounting so I can get a CPA because my bachelors wasn't accounting. Or I would go for finance if that isn't offered.

Chasing girls is fun. You can cope by going back to chasing girls. Hey, maybe you should go to college and chase girls.